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+So first question, what does 
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+Bard Bivou(m)acs mean? Good question.
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+In one version of my talk, I spent too
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+long explaining it,
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+and decided to cut it out.
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+It's basically a bad pun on
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+band camp. 
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+A bivouac--I don't even know if I'm
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+pronouncing that correctly--it's like
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+a tent or a camp that you put up hastily,
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+and a bard is a musician, of course.
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+Yeah, I don't know. I like puns. I'm a dad.
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+That's the best I could come up with.
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+I'll probably find a different name for
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+it but I liked that "bivoaucs,"
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+if you stick an m in there, it becomes
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+Bivou(m)acs.
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+It's kind of like editor macros for
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+generating some HTML.
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+Yes, it is confusing, chatting on IRC
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+at the same time.
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+Great question. (Amin: Grant,
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+so right now, you're sharing your
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+screen. Are you planning on
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+showing something with it, or for example,
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+should I maximize you?) I don't know.
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+I can turn it off for now. Okay.
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+(Amin: You can turn on the webcam.) Yeah, okay
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+(Amin: I'll maximize your
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+webcam.) Okay, thanks.
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+I'll get to the answer for my color
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+theme here in a bit in IRC.
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+Next question on
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+the Etherpad, does this metadata
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+workflow also support
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+unsynchronized lyrics within ID3 tags,
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+multi-line metadata?
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+I don't know, actually.
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+It's funny because I was trying out
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+different things with metadata,
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+and really the biggest thing was to
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+figure out how to do mass tag editing.
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+And that was like...
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+It wasn't very intuitive, like I said,
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+with EMMS.
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+I think EMMS is really great, but its
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+interface is huge.
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+like if you do M-x and type emms, you get
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+I don't know, 270-some candidates.
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+There's a lot of functions going on. 
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+I basically found the
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+features that I needed to get this
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+workflow working.
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+I would guess that you probably can do
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+it, and if you don't,
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+if you can't do it out of the box, I
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+think you could script EMMS to do that.
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+I'd like to know more, and I'm certainly
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+going to be
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+investigating it. I will try and post my
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+findings somewhere online.
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+Is it possible to import batch metadata?
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+I'm not sure. I would guess
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+yes is the answer. EMMS can connect to
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+metadata services. I haven't done
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+that because I was just
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+using audio files that I created myself.
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+I know that on the back end, it calls out to
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+shell programs for tagging things.
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+there's a lot of different options that can
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+shell out too. I was using the
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+the vorbis tools to tag the particular
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+files I was working with.
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+You can also use tiny tag, and there's
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+some other...
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+That might be the python library. I can't
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+remember. There's two other libraries
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+that I can shell out to for
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+doing metadata.
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+My current workflow for tagging music is
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+to first apply replay gain in fubar 2000,
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+fix egregious mistakes, use beats to
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+apply metadata from music brains,
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+or discogs, go over remaining albums with
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+fubar 2000 again.
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+Is there a chance textual tagging could
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+allow doing it all in one program?
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+Have I experimented with mass tag
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+update queries? I have not.
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+Again, I was just doing this workflow,
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+taking raw files with no tags and doing that.
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+I believe because it calls out to
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+the programs in the back end, I'm sure
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+you could work that out.
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+I think EMMS would benefit from
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+having something like that because
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+we work with text, and being able
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+to use Emacs as a front end for those
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+updates would be really fantastic. So
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+really, it's just a matter of
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+writing the interface to the external tool.
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+Is there a link to some info expanding
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+philosophy of how to compensate
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+musicians?
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+No, I don't really have a lot of
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+philosophy around that. I guess the first
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+thing I could say would be
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+something like a universal income. I feel
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+like that would solve a lot of problems,
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+if musicians could just be musicians and
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+not have to worry about their pay. I will
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+think about it more.
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+This is one of my first
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+forays into getting
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+public with some of these ideas, so I
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+will try to do more
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+and let the community know. What Emacs
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+theme am I using?
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+Can't remember. It's one of the Kaolin themes.
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+I think it was Aurora or
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+or Bubble Gum, maybe, but the
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+Kaolin themes are nice. I recommend them.
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+Not using Doom Emacs, Doom mode line though.
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+It's very pretty. SVG support built into
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+Emacs?
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+I'm using Emacs 27.1, and yes, SVG support
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+is built in.
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+I may have had to compile it with some
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+Cairo support.
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+I don't remember for sure.
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+But yes, you can even take screenshots of
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+your Emacs
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+from within Emacs in SVG.
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+It's pretty great.
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+I don't know how much more time we have
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+left for questions.
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+That's most of the things on the etherpad.
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+(Amin: I think we have like 10 more minutes to
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+catch up with the schedule.
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+If there are more questions,
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+feel free to answer them.)
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+I'll start looking through IRC.
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+(Amin: And keep an eye on the pad too.)
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+Thank you all for listening and for
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+enjoying the talk. I'm glad it turned out well.
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+Awesome. Yeah, it's been fun
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+so far.
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+How did I manage? I can post a
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+snippet of that, or actually I can share
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+my screen, can't I...
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+Okay. I actually have it up right here.
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+So I think I got this from alphapapa, to 
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+be honest.
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+I define screenshot-svg.
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+It's an interactive command. Oh yeah,
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+there's alphae.papa
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+Okay, there we go.
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+I would like to change this so that I
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+can get it into
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+the copy-paste buffer so I don't
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+have to copy the file in, but I haven't really
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+hacked on it yet.
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+Okay, org heading colors.
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+That might be a good question. 
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+I know, the presentation...
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+Sorry, it's hard to think and type at
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+the same time.
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+Think and talk and type.
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+So the presentation is just a
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+normal org file, right, so I have my headers,
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+and the author--you can even stick your
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+email and other headers in there.
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+But there's a package called org-tree-slide.
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+Whoops, why is it not...
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+I must have not required it. Good
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+question. (Amin: Grant,
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+can you try sharing your screen maybe?)
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+Oh, is it not shared? I'm sorry.
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+(Amin: Thank you.)
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+There we go, should be coming up.
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+(Amin: It's coming up. Yep, we see it.)
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+Awesome.
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+All right. Okay. I don't know why this
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+isn't working.
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+It was working.
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+Okay, you want to see the screenshot.
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+ hoops. Okay, I just took a screenshot.
+
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+So, org-tree-slide.
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+I don't know why it's not launching. 
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+I thought that I had required it, but I
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+must not have.
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+Maybe I'll try.
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+Okay.
+
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+So there we go. So org-tree-slide is a
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+way that basically uses
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+narrowing and some kind of font tricks to...
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+it changes your titles or your 
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+metadata into
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+this banner for the title here,
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+and it automatically sets the faces for you.
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+You can customize that, of course. And then, as you
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+go through the Org file, you get these
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+kind of nice animations and--
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+what's it called--breadcrumbs up at the top.
+
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+So org-tree-slide. I highly recommend it.
+
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+It's really nice because you can give
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+your presentation
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+and practice it, and while you're
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+practicing it, you can edit things as well,
+
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+because it's still just
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+an Org document using narrowing, you know.
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+It doesn't
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+actually change anything.
+
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+Definitely recommend org-tree-slide mode.
+
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+Okay, let's see, what else...
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+Share my screen to demo. Oh, that's the SVG.
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+Let's see.
+
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+Okay, so I don't know if you can see this now,
+
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+but I'm actually viewing the SVG
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+screenshot that I took with Emacs.
+
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+See here's the source of it. So Emacs
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+made that.
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+And here's the image.
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+It's cool because you can even do it
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+again and again, and
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+open more screenshots of screenshots.
+
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+Yeah, definitely Emacsception.
+
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+Fun stuff.
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+Anything else in chat?
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+Heading colors? Oh, yeah. I talked about the
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+themes. This is another Kaolin theme.
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+I think the one in the talk was
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+maybe this one, Aurora.
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+Oh, here, there's something funny when
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+you start org-tree-slide with a
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+different theme.
+
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+This top header bar gets the faces from
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+that previous theme. I have not
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+figured out how to fix that yet.
+
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+Did I have to compile to get the
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+screenshot? I think maybe I did.
+
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+Yes, if I'm remembering correctly.
+
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+I got Emacs 27. I'm not on a Mac.
+
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+I saw alphapapa's comment on reddit, and then
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+I recompiled it with Cairo support.
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+Yes.
+
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+Okay, lots of good conversation on here.
+
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+Yep, I have like one or two more minutes.
+
+00:12:25.839 --> 00:12:31.680
+Okay
+
+00:12:31.680 --> 00:12:34.240
+I guess while I'm here, I might as
+
+00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:35.519
+well say thank you to
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+00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:38.959
+the organizers. I really appreciate
+
+00:12:38.959 --> 00:12:40.320
+everybody's work on this.
+
+00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.720
+It's fun to be a part of this community.
+
+00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.279
+I'm enjoying the other talks I've seen
+
+00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:47.279
+so far today, and I'm looking forward to
+
+00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:48.560
+to the rest.
+
+00:12:48.560 --> 00:12:50.480
+It's really interesting, just from
+
+00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:52.720
+being on Emacs in IRC
+
+00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:54.720
+for a few months, I've already connected
+
+00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:56.959
+with a lot of interesting people
+
+00:12:56.959 --> 00:13:00.720
+and have a lot of cool connections
+
+00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:04.079
+already.
+
+00:13:04.079 --> 00:13:05.519
+(Amin: Thank you for being a part of the
+
+00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.519
+community, Grant.)
+
+00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.680
+That's good to be here. I have another
+
+00:13:09.680 --> 00:13:16.560
+talk tomorrow as well.
+
+00:13:16.560 --> 00:13:18.399
+Oh, thanks for everyone in the Etherpad
+
+00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.160
+for putting more comments on these
+
+00:13:20.160 --> 00:13:21.680
+questions here
+
+00:13:21.680 --> 00:13:29.360
+and taking the notes.
+
+00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.680
+(Amin: I think that's about all the time
+
+00:13:31.680 --> 00:13:33.040
+that we have for the Q&A.
+
+00:13:33.040 --> 00:13:36.720
+Okay. Thank you again so much, Grant,
+
+00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:38.480
+for your awesome talk and for popping in
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+00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:39.920
+for questions.)
+
+00:13:39.920 --> 00:13:42.000
+Yeah, thanks again for hosting. See you
+
+00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:46.800
+later. Cheers!