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 Adolfo Villafiorita
 
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 I have been a long time user of static site generators, such as
 Jekyll.
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 - Org mode files support in Jekyll - <https://emacs.cc/jekyll-org/>.
 - Mentioned: <http://juanjose.garciaripoll.com/blog/org-mode-html-templates/index.html> (org-html).
 - Other static webpage generators: <https://github.com/novoid/lazyblorg/wiki/Similar-Projects>.
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+# Transcript
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+Adolfo: Okay, excellent.
+
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+Hello, everyone and
+
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+nice meeting you. Let me
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+thank the the organizer for all the
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+organization and all the work they are
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+doing to support us.
+
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+My name is Adolfo Villafiorita.
+
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+I'm teaching at the University of
+Trento.
+
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+I will shortly be working at
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+shared.tech, which is
+
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+a non-profit organization developing
+
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+applications to
+
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+recover surplus food.
+
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+The reason of the talk today
+
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+and the reason I'm here today
+
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+is to talk about my experience in moving
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+from Jekyll static website generator to
+Org Mode.
+
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+The reason I moved to Org Mode
+
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+is to have better support for
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+literate programming on the websites
+
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+at the University of Trento, where we
+
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+make available the content for the
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+the students.
+
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+First of all, what is a static
+website generator?
+
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+It is basically a tool which
+
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+allows you to
+
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+generate HTML files out of text files
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+containing basically two types of
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+information: metadata and content.
+
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+Metadata is a
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+set of key pairs describing the
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+content of the file, such as the title,
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+author, tags, and so on and so forth.
+
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+The content is what you actually
+want to
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+get published on the Internet in
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+the HTML file.
+
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+Usually the content is written in
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+some kind of markup language,
+
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+such as Markdown or possibly
+
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+Org Mode. Jekyll is a very
+
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+popular static website generator.
+
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+It is written in Ruby.
+
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+What it does: it systematically
+
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+transforms all the input files
+
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+by making the content into
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+HTML and systematically applying a
+
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+template in order to generate the
+
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+HTML files, which you can then deploy
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+on your server of choice to make them
+
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+available on the Internet.
+
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+One of the features most--
+
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+well, I would say all
+
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+static website generators have
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+is that of being able to
+
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+collect the metadata information
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+of the files being part of
+
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+your project.
+
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+The reason they do that is because
+
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+you sometimes want to generate pages
+
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+based on the content
+
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+of your projects,
+
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+such as, for instance, the list of
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+posts you have recently published, or
+
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+maybe the list of tags
+
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+you have defined for your post,
+
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+and so on and so forth.
+
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+Jekyll gives the possibility of
+
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+generating this kind of dynamic
+
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+content by using Liquid,
+
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+which is a templating language which
+
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+looks like this.
+
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+So basically, you have all the
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+constructs you can
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+expect in a programming language.
+
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+This, for instance,
+
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+is a for cycle which
+
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+iterates over all the posts or the
+
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+files in a specific directory of the
+
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+Jekyll project.
+
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+For each post, it takes the title
+
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+and the URL and generates a link.
+
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+So Jekyll is nice and sweet,
+
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+but over the years
+
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+I started using more and more
+
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+systematically
+
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+Org Mode to write all my files.
+
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+I moved from Markdown to Org Mode
+
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+I am a long time Emacs user.
+
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+I've been using Emacs for 30 years now,
+
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+so Org Mode is a more recent discovery,
+
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+but it is a very nice discovery I made.
+
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+The reason I like Org Mode
+
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+is because, for instance, you can write
+
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+formulas using MathJax
+
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+and you can generate diagrams
+
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+or plots with Gnuplot.
+
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+Also important is the fact that you have
+
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+the possibility of publishing
+
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+your documents to multiple backends
+such as PDF,
+
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+or maybe a Reveal presentation,
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+or HTML. This is all made possible
+
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+by Babel, which is
+
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+exactly what we just saw in the
+
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+previous talk:
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+Namely, the possibility of executing a
+
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+snippet of code
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+embedded in in your pages.
+
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+Our model can also be used
+
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+within Jekyll. In fact,
+
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+there is a a nice gem, a nice library,
+
+00:05:13.667 --> 00:05:17.233
+called jekyll-org which allows you
+
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+to use Org Mode files directly
+
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+into jekyll. But when you start using
+
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+Org Mode... When I started using
+
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+Org Mode, I realized I could move
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+all my workflow, all my publishing
+
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+workflow to Emacs.
+
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+In fact, Org Mode is also a
+
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+static website generator because
+
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+it has got the possibility of publishing
+
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+projects made of Org Mode files.
+
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+One of the nice things about
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+the publishing features of Org Mode
+
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+is that it allows you to define in the
+
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+org-publish-project-alist,
+
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+all the the components
+
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+which are part of your project.
+
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+In a sense, it is
+
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+also more flexible than Jekyll,
+
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+because it also allows you, for instance,
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+to publish a single file rather
+
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+than having to recompile everything
+
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+every time you want to publish your
+
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+your project to your website.
+
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+However, there are some short comments
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+I would say, or some areas
+of improvement.
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+The first is that support for
+templating
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+is not so obvious as it is
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+in Jekyll, even though there are some
+
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+nice extensions such as org-thtml,
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+for instance, which allows you to use
+templates.
+
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+More important to me was the fact that
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+apparently, there is little support for
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+the creation of dynamic content
+
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+So I was very curious
+
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+and very keen to use
+
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+Org Mode for publishing my blog
+
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+and the courses at the university,
+
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+but then I had to find a way
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+to being able to publish these
+
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+dynamic pages, finding some kind of
+
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+replacement, so to speak,
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+for the liquid engine.
+
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+The solution was there at hand,
+actually, because
+
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+basically, I realized I could use Babel
+
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+for exactly this purpose. Rather than
+
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+using Babel for generating
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+plots or my other computations
+
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+or whatever I was using them for,
+
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+I realized I could use Babel to
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+generate HTML which could be
+
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+then published in the project
+
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+All I needed to do then
+
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+was defining some kind of functions,
+
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+some kind of code in order to read
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+the metadata of all
+
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+the Org Mode files of my web project,
+
+00:08:04.767 --> 00:08:09.680
+so that I could then publish--
+
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+generate the dynamic content.
+
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+This is a snippet taken from
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+one of my HTML projects,
+
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+which basically shows the way in which
+
+00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.599
+I generate the list of posts on
+
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+my page. It is exactly how the
+Liquid that we saw
+
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+a couple of slides earlier that
+looks like
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+in Org Mode.
+
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+Basically, what I'm doing...
+I'm using...
+
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+I wrote a Ruby script which
+
+00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.680
+reads all the metadata. So this
+
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+highlighted code
+
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+basically loads the script
+
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+which is stored externally.
+
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+Then it collects all the
+
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+metadata from the
+
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+Org Mode files in the
+
+00:09:00.880 --> 00:09:02.240
+current directory.
+
+00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.800
+And then the following... The code
+
+00:09:04.800 --> 00:09:06.480
+you can see here
+
+00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:09.839
+basically iterates over all the
+
+00:09:09.839 --> 00:09:12.959
+posts read at the previous step.
+
+00:09:12.959 --> 00:09:16.399
+It generates
+
+00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:19.519
+a list with the title
+
+00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:22.959
+and the URLS, basically
+
+00:09:22.959 --> 00:09:27.440
+replicating what Jekyll does.
+
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+There are some other things
+
+00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.399
+I have to deal with in order to
+
+00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:36.480
+accommodate my workflow. But that was
+
+00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:39.200
+relatively easy in the sense that one of
+
+00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.279
+the problems, one of the issues I had to
+
+00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.360
+solve was that of having
+
+00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.480
+a common navigation on all my
+
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+pages. That was easily solved
+
+00:09:51.040 --> 00:09:53.867
+using the #+INCLUDE feature.
+
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+So I basically
+
+00:09:54.959 --> 00:09:56.000
+made available
+
+00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:57.839
+an #+INCLUDE with all the navigation
+
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+which is embedded in all the pages of
+
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+my websites
+
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+through the #+INCLUDE.
+
+00:10:03.733 --> 00:10:06.160
+Another nice feature which
+
+00:10:06.160 --> 00:10:08.560
+Jekyll has is the possibility of
+
+00:10:08.560 --> 00:10:12.800
+previewing a website before deploying it.
+
+00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.079
+Emacs also has got a node which allows
+
+00:10:16.079 --> 00:10:21.200
+you to launch a web server. In fact,
+
+00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.320
+I wrote a quick hack
+
+00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:26.959
+which allows you to
+
+00:10:26.959 --> 00:10:31.519
+invoke a node on an Org Mode
+
+00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.720
+project, start a local preview,
+
+00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:37.920
+and then use rsync
+
+00:10:37.920 --> 00:10:44.839
+in order to deploy the the website.
+
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+Five minutes left. More than
+
+00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.200
+enough. Okay.
+
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+Thanks. Thank you, thank you very much.
+
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+I'm nearly done. So then I can take
+some questions.
+
+00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:00.560
+Just to give you maybe
+
+00:11:00.560 --> 00:11:03.680
+a slightly more in-depth
+
+00:11:03.680 --> 00:11:06.480
+view of what the pages look like,
+
+00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:07.200
+so these are
+
+00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:11.120
+one of the pages, or the source files
+
+00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.720
+of one of the websites. It is
+
+00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:18.480
+in literate programming. Basically,
+
+00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:20.399
+you see there is some metadata here.
+
+00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.640
+I mean this is a regular Org Mode file.
+
+00:11:22.640 --> 00:11:26.640
+This part here
+
+00:11:26.640 --> 00:11:29.920
+basically defines some common options
+
+00:11:29.920 --> 00:11:31.519
+for publication.
+
+00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.920
+These two includes here
+
+00:11:35.920 --> 00:11:41.120
+put some extra HTML in the head part and
+
+00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:44.480
+the navigation. Here, as you can see,
+
+00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:48.079
+is the code generating the
+
+00:11:48.079 --> 00:11:50.160
+the list in chronological order. It is
+
+00:11:50.160 --> 00:11:52.240
+slightly more complex than the example I
+
+00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:53.839
+made in the slide
+
+00:11:53.839 --> 00:11:56.240
+because there is some more
+
+00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.760
+elaboration to do, including
+putting some
+
+00:11:59.760 --> 00:12:01.839
+Javascript to identify
+
+00:12:01.839 --> 00:12:05.120
+according to the tags.
+
+00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:08.160
+To go back to the presentation...
+
+00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.067
+I managed this migration
+
+00:12:13.067 --> 00:12:14.560
+a few months ago,
+
+00:12:14.560 --> 00:12:17.680
+and then all my workflow is within
+
+00:12:17.680 --> 00:12:20.399
+Org Mode and within Emacs.
+
+00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:23.079
+I'm very happy with it because it's
+
+00:12:23.079 --> 00:12:26.800
+simplified quite a bit
+
+00:12:26.800 --> 00:12:28.480
+my publication process.
+
+00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.839
+One of the advantages... Another
+
+00:12:31.839 --> 00:12:34.240
+advantage... So the first advantage is that
+
+00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:36.959
+everything is in Org Mode and Emacs.
+
+00:12:36.959 --> 00:12:38.160
+Second advantage
+
+00:12:38.160 --> 00:12:41.680
+is that everything is based on the
+
+00:12:41.680 --> 00:12:44.880
+standard machinery provided by Org Mode.
+
+00:12:44.880 --> 00:12:47.760
+So in a sense, it is
+
+00:12:47.760 --> 00:12:50.079
+more robust with respect to
+
+00:12:50.079 --> 00:12:53.040
+dependencies, possible errors, and so
+
+00:12:53.040 --> 00:12:54.320
+on and so forth.
+
+00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.639
+The fact that Org Mode
+
+00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:58.240
+allows you to publish
+
+00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:00.880
+a single file in a project is also
+
+00:13:00.880 --> 00:13:03.839
+very interesting because
+
+00:13:03.839 --> 00:13:07.839
+it allows to be more robust to
+
+00:13:07.839 --> 00:13:11.040
+problems you might introduce when
+
+00:13:11.040 --> 00:13:14.959
+you're changing--when I'm changing the
+setup.
+
+00:13:14.959 --> 00:13:16.880
+Another interesting thing which I
+
+00:13:16.880 --> 00:13:21.519
+realized that I could have is that
+
+00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.600
+in a sense, the specification of the
+
+00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:28.480
+website can be embedded in the website
+itself.
+
+00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.800
+In a sense this is some kind of
+
+00:13:30.800 --> 00:13:31.839
+self-documenting...
+
+00:13:31.839 --> 00:13:35.120
+It's a way of self-documenting
+
+00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:36.600
+what I'm actually doing.
+
+00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:44.133
+For instance, here on my website,
+
+00:13:44.133 --> 00:13:46.399
+you can see the
+
+00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:48.240
+specification of the
+
+00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.519
+project which is loaded
+
+00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.933
+from my initialization file,
+
+00:13:53.933 --> 00:13:56.320
+but then it is also published
+
+00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.440
+together with my home page. It lives
+
+00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:01.360
+with the repository where
+
+00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.360
+I keep all the sources of my website,
+
+00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:08.079
+which is kind of nice because it
+
+00:14:08.079 --> 00:14:09.839
+basically isolates
+
+00:14:09.839 --> 00:14:14.079
+everything in a single place.
+
+00:14:14.079 --> 00:14:16.880
+So there are some examples. I'm
+
+00:14:16.880 --> 00:14:19.433
+showing them more because of the
+
+00:14:19.433 --> 00:14:21.760
+source code which
+
+00:14:21.760 --> 00:14:25.519
+you can grab from the git repositories
+
+00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:26.933
+if you are interested.
+
+00:14:26.933 --> 00:14:28.399
+Of course I'm also available
+
+00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.600
+to provide some support and help
+
+00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:32.959
+if you are interested
+
+00:14:32.959 --> 00:14:34.480
+in this kind of stuff.
+
+00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.760
+The the next step for me will be that of
+
+00:14:37.760 --> 00:14:41.600
+trying, making this kind of
+machinery available
+
+00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.199
+for more general use at the moment.
+
+00:14:45.199 --> 00:14:47.120
+If you are interested in trying out my
+
+00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:48.800
+suggestion, grabbing the
+
+00:14:48.800 --> 00:14:51.933
+sources for one of the websites
+
+00:14:51.933 --> 00:14:54.700
+to seehow they look like,
+
+00:14:54.700 --> 00:14:56.720
+and maybe try and
+
+00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.160
+customize it for your purposes...
+
+00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:03.839
+This is basically the content of my talk.
+
+00:15:03.839 --> 00:15:06.959
+I'm open to questions and thank you
+
+00:15:06.959 --> 00:15:10.880
+for your attention.
+
+00:15:10.880 --> 00:15:12.880
+(Amin: Thank you very much, Adolfo, for your
+
+00:15:12.880 --> 00:15:14.480
+awesome presentation.
+
+00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:17.360
+I think we have time for maybe like
+
+00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:19.360
+one or two questions,
+
+00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:21.279
+and then the rest maybe you could
+
+00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:26.639
+take up after the stream.)
+
+00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:28.033
+Adolfo: What should we do?
+
+00:15:28.033 --> 00:15:30.000
+(Amin: Would you like me
+
+00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.839
+to read you the questions?)
+
+00:15:31.839 --> 00:15:35.199
+Adolfo: Yeah, probably better because
+
+00:15:35.199 --> 00:15:36.700
+I'm kind of lost there.
+
+00:15:36.700 --> 00:15:40.399
+(Amin: Okay, no problem.
+
+00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:42.480
+So someone asks, "Do you have any
+
+00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:45.440
+opinion on Firn?")
+
+00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:48.639
+Adolfo: Firn. I don't know Firn,
+
+00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:51.839
+so I'll give it a try
+
+00:15:51.839 --> 00:15:55.040
+and check it out.
+
+00:15:55.040 --> 00:15:57.839
+(Amin: Thanks. People are also asking,
+
+00:15:57.839 --> 00:15:59.680
+do you discuss this, for example, in a blog
+
+00:15:59.680 --> 00:16:01.279
+or anywhere else they could find more
+
+00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:02.800
+about it?)
+
+00:16:02.800 --> 00:16:05.600
+Adolfo: Oh yes. I'm going to publish the
+
+00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.560
+the talk and the content
+
+00:16:08.560 --> 00:16:11.120
+on my website, and then I'll link it from
+
+00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.067
+the EmacsConf conference
+
+00:16:13.067 --> 00:16:14.720
+so that it will be easier for
+
+00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:16.533
+people to to reach it
+
+00:16:16.533 --> 00:16:19.040
+I will shortly make it
+
+00:16:19.040 --> 00:16:22.880
+available right after the conference.
+
+00:16:22.880 --> 00:16:26.160
+(Amin: Wonderful. I think that's all
+for the questions.
+
+00:16:26.160 --> 00:16:27.667
+Thank you very much.)
+
+00:16:27.667 --> 00:16:29.600
+Adolfo: Thank you very much. Thank you.
+
+00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:34.800
+(Amin: Cheers.) Adolfo: Bye, cheers. (Amin: Bye.)