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[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: 5 seconds. Oh, actually,""" start="00:00:01.719" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Sorry, I keep delaying.""" start="00:00:07.279" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I keep forgetting that we have an""" start="00:00:08.320" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""introduction now. The introduction is flying.""" start="00:00:09.559" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: a little more. You're going to give a""" start="00:00:02.600" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Well, it's about 5 seconds now.""" start="00:00:22.260" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: 30-second, right? Just say go when you want""" start="00:00:19.675" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Sure. You'll hear me anyway.""" start="00:00:29.060" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: me to go. Okay.""" start="00:00:27.560" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: All right, I think we are live now.""" start="00:00:33.260" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So hi again, everyone.""" start="00:00:35.220" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I promised you we would be back in about 30""" start="00:00:36.100" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""seconds. I lied, it was actually 1 minute,""" start="00:00:37.900" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but we are here with Bob.""" start="00:00:40.160" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Hi, Bob, how are you doing?""" start="00:00:41.760" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Hi, doing great. Glad to""" start="00:00:43.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: be with you. Yeah, glad to be here,""" start="00:00:46.940" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and so are we. We're glad to have you again""" start="00:00:50.600" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this year. So what we're going to do,""" start="00:00:52.580" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we're not going to waste any time right now""" start="00:00:54.440" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""with chit-chats. What we're going to do,""" start="00:00:56.140" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we're going to move straight into your""" start="00:00:57.880" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""presentation, Bob, so that you have as much""" start="00:00:59.059" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""time as you can. I'm going to recede into the""" start="00:01:01.120" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""background. I am going to full screen your""" start="00:01:04.239" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""presentation on a stream.""" start="00:01:07.440" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And Bob, the floor is all yours.""" start="00:01:09.860" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Thank you very much, Leo.""" start="00:01:12.940" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Glad to be here. I hope everybody has an idea""" start="00:01:15.040" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of what Hyperbole is, but it's a broad""" start="00:01:18.400" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""information management system inside Emacs""" start="00:01:22.900" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that works in all major modes.""" start="00:01:26.400" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's a global minor mode that you can turn on""" start="00:01:28.860" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and off very rapidly so that you can just get""" start="00:01:31.760" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""in and out of hyperbole.""" start="00:01:34.760" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And it works mostly from a mini buffer menu""" start="00:01:36.760" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that if we just hit ctrl H H we see at the""" start="00:01:41.400" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""bottom of the screen here and as you see in""" start="00:01:44.040" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""some of this text right here,""" start="00:01:47.420" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Dee will show you a demo with all these video""" start="00:01:51.040" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""links of Hyperbole now.""" start="00:01:55.680" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""But let's just get into the top 10 reasons to""" start="00:01:57.900" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""use Hyperbole. Number 10 is a key series""" start="00:02:01.780" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""curly braces. So you just put curly braces""" start="00:02:10.160" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""around any set of key sequences that you want""" start="00:02:12.600" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and hyperbole magically turns that into what""" start="00:02:19.760" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we call an implicit button a hyper button and""" start="00:02:22.440" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""any kind of text that you have so if we go""" start="00:02:25.640" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""down here and we just click click here we see""" start="00:02:28.580" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it that was a complex button that said let's""" start="00:02:35.820" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""start a shell, let's set an environment""" start="00:02:40.400" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""variable as you see the command right up""" start="00:02:43.320" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""there, and then let's do a grep over the""" start="00:02:45.140" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""hyperbole code and find all instances of a""" start="00:02:47.420" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""particular label. So if we hit made a return,""" start="00:02:50.680" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that's called the action key.""" start="00:02:55.400" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""That's what you use throughout hyperbole when""" start="00:02:57.280" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you just want to activate any kind of button.""" start="00:02:59.340" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So you see it jumped to the grep output and""" start="00:03:02.020" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this is in a shell buffer it's not in a""" start="00:03:06.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""compilation buffer so anywhere that you have""" start="00:03:08.440" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this sort of thing it's also an implicit""" start="00:03:11.180" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""button and any sort of grep output or""" start="00:03:13.780" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""compiler output you can just jump to with the""" start="00:03:17.040" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""same key, made a return.""" start="00:03:22.120" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So that's key series, the first part.""" start="00:03:23.960" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And then just to note that you can also just""" start="00:03:29.440" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""do a, well I'll just do it here and show you""" start="00:03:33.880" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that you can do a recursive grep with this""" start="00:03:39.000" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""hyperbole command, HYPBR grep.""" start="00:03:43.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And if you're in an Emacs list buffer,""" start="00:03:46.060" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it will only grep across the Emacs list.""" start="00:03:50.860" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So a very handy way to just go through your""" start="00:03:54.760" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""code very rapidly and then jump to various""" start="00:03:58.340" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""points in it. So we have a lot to cover""" start="00:04:01.040" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""today, so I'm going to go through this""" start="00:04:04.280" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""rapidly. This isn't a tutorial,""" start="00:04:05.800" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it's just to get you interested in some of""" start="00:04:07.800" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the features, and then there's a ton of""" start="00:04:10.340" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""reference material and videos now available""" start="00:04:13.060" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for Hyperlink. So let's go to number 9.""" start="00:04:15.980" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Path names become implicit buttons.""" start="00:04:20.019" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""You don't even have to quote them.""" start="00:04:22.500" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""You can add environment variables or elist""" start="00:04:24.060" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""variables with the syntax right here.""" start="00:04:26.920" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So here we have a shell script that's""" start="00:04:29.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""somewhere on our path.""" start="00:04:32.180" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And notice path is an environment variable""" start="00:04:33.680" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""with many different paths within it,""" start="00:04:36.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""right? But Hyperbole knows that and it""" start="00:04:39.140" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""searches the path, gets the first match,""" start="00:04:42.600" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""finds it, and finds the actual shell script.""" start="00:04:45.600" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So you can just embed that anywhere.""" start="00:04:48.660" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Here we have a list variable,""" start="00:04:50.540" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""hyperbdur, which is the home directory for""" start="00:04:52.280" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""hyperbole, and then a markdown file,""" start="00:04:54.360" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and a link to a direct section in the file,""" start="00:04:58.320" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and the 5 colon 5 means go to line 5 within""" start="00:05:01.780" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that section and column 5.""" start="00:05:05.220" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So let's just try it. Boom,""" start="00:05:07.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we're right there, and we're on another link""" start="00:05:09.420" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that we could activate as well.""" start="00:05:11.500" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So notice the next line is the same link but""" start="00:05:13.420" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this is how you normally have to do it in a""" start="00:05:17.960" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""markdown file. You have to change the section""" start="00:05:20.280" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""header to have dashes but with hyperbole you""" start="00:05:23.160" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""don't have to. You can just put it exactly""" start="00:05:25.640" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""like you see it in your file.""" start="00:05:28.140" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Here the pound syntax for sections is really""" start="00:05:30.540" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a generic syntax in the hyperbole.""" start="00:05:34.660" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And so it works in all different kinds of""" start="00:05:37.360" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""files, your programming files.""" start="00:05:39.840" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Here's a shell script and we said let's just""" start="00:05:42.100" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""go to the first comment that has alias in it.""" start="00:05:45.240" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Notice we didn't have to say the whole line,""" start="00:05:49.120" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""just the first part of it.""" start="00:05:51.700" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And it matched to it. Here we have a link to""" start="00:05:53.160" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""our hyperbole structured outliner called the""" start="00:05:58.140" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""K Outliner. And you can see it auto-numbers""" start="00:06:01.680" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""all these cells. But in addition to just""" start="00:06:05.080" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""displaying, you can also add a pipe symbol""" start="00:06:08.000" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""near the end and use this view syntax to clip""" start="00:06:10.640" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to 2 lines and show blank lines.""" start="00:06:14.900" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So let's see if each node gets clipped to 2""" start="00:06:17.500" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""lines. So you see they're all just 2 now with""" start="00:06:19.920" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the ellipses and then we can expand them.""" start="00:06:22.680" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So a lot of power there just with path names.""" start="00:06:25.320" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Let's continue to number 8.""" start="00:06:29.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Can I just interrupt you just a bit?""" start="00:06:31.120" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Yes.""" start="00:06:33.420" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: I think your phone, so we have your phone set""" start="00:06:34.740" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""up in case your internet misbehaves and we've""" start="00:06:37.720" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""set this up before we started,""" start="00:06:40.640" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but I think the vibration is a little loud""" start="00:06:42.100" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""whenever it does. Can you maybe move it a""" start="00:06:44.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""little bit? I think so.""" start="00:06:46.160" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It will have to vibrate again.""" start="00:06:50.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Is that okay? No, my phone...""" start="00:06:47.740" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Okay. It shouldn't have been vibrating.""" start="00:06:54.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: have been another device,""" start="00:06:59.480" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but definitely we had vibration.""" start="00:07:01.280" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Anyway, carry on. Sorry for the interruption.""" start="00:07:02.800" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: It could be me. It might So number 8,""" start="00:06:57.640" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""special prefixes. There are 3 prefixes you""" start="00:07:07.800" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""can attach to path names.""" start="00:07:10.520" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The first, if you want to load,""" start="00:07:11.820" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""instead of just finding a file,""" start="00:07:13.820" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""an ELIST file, you can actually load it.""" start="00:07:16.620" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And so I can just hit made a return on this,""" start="00:07:19.540" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and you see in the mini buffer,""" start="00:07:22.200" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it loaded it as compiled e-list.""" start="00:07:25.200" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I could put a .el on here,""" start="00:07:27.240" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a .elc, .gz, all of that'll work,""" start="00:07:29.500" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and just put a dash in front to load it.""" start="00:07:33.580" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""If you want to run a shell command,""" start="00:07:36.580" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""just put an exclamation mark in front of""" start="00:07:38.720" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""something and again you can have the""" start="00:07:41.040" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""environment variable. So here we're saying""" start="00:07:42.540" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""run the program date and you see,""" start="00:07:44.620" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""let's see, let's do it again.""" start="00:07:48.400" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""There we go. It ran date and you see the""" start="00:07:50.160" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""output right there. And what if you want to""" start="00:07:53.240" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""run a graphical program on your system?""" start="00:07:55.680" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Well here, we want to open a PDF file and I'm""" start="00:07:58.620" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""just using XDG Open on Linux,""" start="00:08:01.760" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you could use Open on Mac and you just put an""" start="00:08:05.660" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""ampersand in front and there's the Hyperbole""" start="00:08:09.440" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""manual instantly displayed.""" start="00:08:14.120" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So lots of power there and all of that""" start="00:08:16.120" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""actually .pdf's and many other file types are""" start="00:08:18.820" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""automatically linked to various programs by""" start="00:08:22.360" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Hyperbole. So you could just use the path""" start="00:08:25.080" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""name itself and it would probably behave the""" start="00:08:27.340" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""same way. Number 7, bookmarks on steroids.""" start="00:08:29.340" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So Hyperbole gives you a personal button""" start="00:08:35.460" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""file, which is on the menu you see here under""" start="00:08:37.419" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""button files, and then personal.""" start="00:08:40.400" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So here we'll just display it.""" start="00:08:43.039" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And you can put whatever you want in here,""" start="00:08:45.480" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""these implicit buttons of any type.""" start="00:08:47.720" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""You can name them the way here and you can""" start="00:08:49.860" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""activate either the name with MetaReturn or""" start="00:08:52.660" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the button itself. So,""" start="00:08:55.560" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of course, if we did MetaReturn here,""" start="00:08:56.920" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we'd just display that in a web browser.""" start="00:08:59.860" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'll just do a few of these.""" start="00:09:03.940" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So here's a section of line.""" start="00:09:05.540" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Let's just jump there.""" start="00:09:07.200" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""But these can be all sorts of different""" start="00:09:09.120" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""actions that are going on.""" start="00:09:11.400" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""you for your presentation again this year and""" start="00:34:39.400" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Thank you, Leo.""" start="00:34:43.520" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: for all your answers. All right.""" start="00:34:41.580" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Bye bye, Bob. And we'll be moving on to the""" start="00:34:45.820" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""next talk in about 10 seconds.""" start="00:34:47.699" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""See you in a bit. All right,""" start="00:34:49.080" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""Thank you so much. I need to get moving for""" start="00:34:56.139" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""before Gmail. And so inside,""" start="00:37:44.660" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""system, hypermedia system,""" start="00:38:20.480" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""Embark package? I am a bit.""" start="00:38:26.580" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I've just started using it.""" start="00:38:28.820" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I think there's some overlapping""" start="00:38:30.520" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""you know, small amounts of the features.""" start="00:38:43.940" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I talked to, I hope I don't miss his name,""" start="00:38:47.680" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""Anybody still here? If not,""" start="00:39:34.280" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""Hyperbole version 9 in the next week.""" start="00:39:47.160" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Thanks very much. Bye.""" start="00:39:53.740" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""Hey. Good to see you. Alright,""" start="00:40:07.120" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""So, do you want to stay on air or something?""" start="00:41:15.300" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""because someone went to go hear that""" start="00:41:21.680" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""presentation, I can stay.""" start="00:41:23.320" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Sure, I'll make an announcement then.""" start="00:41:25.920" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And you can stay, we'll just put on BBB.""" start="00:41:27.880" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""You can stay muted until people join,""" start="00:41:29.680" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""Okay, Bob, I've won the stream.""" start="00:43:25.760" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We are joining it now.""" start="00:43:27.660" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We've got about 5 seconds.""" start="00:43:28.940" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""so we are gone, Bob, please.""" start="00:43:49.240" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""can we see if anybody comes back in the room?""" start="00:43:54.100" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""How do you tell?""" start="00:43:57.160" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: You should be able to show on the left,""" start="00:44:01.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""question on your pad that we could be taking""" start="00:44:15.380" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: sorry. It was a different pad,""" start="00:44:47.080" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Oh right.""" start="00:44:55.840" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: that was the problem. Okay,""" start="00:44:53.820" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""here we go. Okay, I'm back.""" start="00:44:57.260" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, yeah, it looks like...""" start="00:45:00.540" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Is anybody back? Send,""" start="00:45:02.260" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah, because it's been something.""" start="00:45:08.520" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""from the brilliance that goes on in this""" start="00:45:30.140" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: So we're on the general stream now?""" start="00:45:37.340" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""next hour, which is 19 minutes.""" start="00:45:46.080" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Just- Why don't you and I talk?""" start="00:45:48.760" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So have you ever tried hyperbole,""" start="00:45:52.540" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Leo?""" start="00:45:56.400" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""it feels like every year when you present""" start="00:46:00.220" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""much. Because of the buttons,""" start="00:46:05.140" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""reinvented many times in Emacs.""" start="00:46:10.080" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""you use 1 key, right? To control every type""" start="00:46:42.260" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""It's okay to install a package and only use""" start="00:58:37.720" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""I was reminded, as you were discussing this,""" start="00:58:40.600" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""system. You wouldn't use it unless you wanted""" start="01:04:02.560" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it to simplify your life.""" start="01:04:04.920" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Hyperbole is built with the same idea in""" start="01:04:07.580" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""first encounter it, but when they do""" start="01:04:15.720" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""understand it, they're blown away.""" start="01:04:17.420" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It changes their life.""" start="01:04:19.960" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""You know, when you really understand implicit""" start="01:04:22.040" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""hyperbole that can change your Emacs working""" start="01:04:28.100" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""you'll be pleasantly surprised across time.""" start="01:04:34.080" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: you so much Bob. We'll be moving on to the""" start="01:04:39.220" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""next talk in about 20 seconds so everyone see""" start="01:04:40.920" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you in a bit and Bob thank you so much again.""" start="01:04:42.980" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Thanks very much. And thank Thank you.""" start="01:04:37.040" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: All right I think we are off here now.""" start="01:04:51.140" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So thank you so much, Bob.""" start="01:04:53.040" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm going to need to step out and get ready""" start="01:04:53.940" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Yeah, do your thing. You do a great job at""" start="01:04:56.609" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it. But I wanted to ask you where in London""" start="01:04:59.240" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: for the next talk. I'm not in London,""" start="01:04:55.440" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm in France, and I just moved to London.""" start="01:05:05.280" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: you are. Oh, okay, got it.""" start="01:05:01.760" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Sorry, I thought you were.""" start="01:05:11.200" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Take care.""" start="01:05:13.000" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: All right, bye-bye, Bob.""" start="01:05:14.340" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.""" start="01:05:15.060" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Bye-bye.""" start="01:05:15.750" video="mainVideo-hyperamp" id="subtitle"]]

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