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okay I mean can you hear me yep I can
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hear you can you hear me
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yes perfect so gabrielle uh if you want
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to start answering questions and by the
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way people for the
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for the stream I'm actually on a phone
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call right now so the quality might be a
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little bad
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but we're trying our best
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hello uh thanks for attending my talk
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I see four questions on the user product
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I'm going to answer
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them okay so the first one is
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can you put your test space from up
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somewhere uh yes they're very simple
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skips
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uh I'll find a way to distribute them
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somehow
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that's so that's an easy one the second
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one is more difficult it's more
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difficult it's the differences between
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e shell and v term so I did very basic
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level the main difference is that v
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term is implemented with
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as a bridge between Emacs and an
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external library
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which means that most of the code base
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is actually c
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it's not easy uh this is is a critical
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difference
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uh in terms of performance in terms of
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speed
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and all the other uh features that we
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can
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inherit from this library so vterm
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is similar to a real terminal it's not
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as
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uh it's not like a shell it's a real
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terminal emulator
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that can actually uh display but
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manipulate the
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terminal in pretty much any way whereas
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isha
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is simply a way to interact with your
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system
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in the data page we have a more
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complete discussion about this topic and
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where we compare v-terms with e-shell
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with shell with nc
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term as well I think so
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I think just to conclude this I think
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eshell and v term
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are somehow orthogonal in the sense that
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v3 is before a
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full complete terminal experience
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whereas isil is more for specific tasks
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of this
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uh which are not like terminal uh
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interfaces you know like page stock this
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kind of stuff
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uh the next question is uh is there a
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plan to avoid compilation of the initial
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completion steps
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so since the term is based on again
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on an external module we need to combine
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this module
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and we're using the dynamic module
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system to
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be able to interface with this module
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and this requires
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us to compile the module at least the
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very first time you start
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the I don't think we can do
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without that in the near future we need
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to compile this
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and we must there's no way around
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if we cannot simply distribute the
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module um
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if you want to think very long term
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maybe
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uh but I think there's no current plan
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to
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avoid the compilation as the very first
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step the first time you
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uh run vtor however all the subsequent
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times
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you will not have to compile peter um
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so for question four it's uh I have a
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nice looking problem
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thanks uh and if
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there's a git repo where you can see it
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or something like that
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so if you go to my github repo I have
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adobe files
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repo but look at that it's terrible it's
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super updated
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so I've been meaning to polish it for
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like years
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and I haven't got it so don't look at it
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my font is actually extremely simple
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I think it's the pure prompt from uh zsh
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or fish depending
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uh and I think I didn't do anything but
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like maybe tweaking the colors a little
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bit
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okay gabriel just sorry to interject if
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you could just take one more question
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yes the last question is already the
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answer which is uh will it work with
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e max terminal so minus and w and answer
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yes it works without any problem with
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imax terminal so you can run a terminal
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inside image inside of terminal
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and you can continue paying up as much
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as you want okay
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I think that's it explain the question
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oh sorry thank you
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thanks for attending this talk
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well thank you so much for giving it so
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I'm in back to you
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you are now unmuted thank you very much
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to gabrielle for the awesome talk and
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for taking live questions
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and also many thanks to leo for getting
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through to gabriel
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via phone in the face of gabriel having
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technical difficulties
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with using big blue button
