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I'm hoping to keep this talk in the 15
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minutes and I'll take five minutes of
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question at the end
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so hello again I suppose you're starting
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to get pretty familiar with me and my
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start right now so
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right now we're getting into the nitty
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gritty we started today
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I told you about how I'd ventured from
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being a user
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to being a maintainer and right now I'm
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going to get the chance to
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actually tell you more about the project
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that I'm maintaining
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which is called org rome
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so even if I it would have had a better
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impact if I'd
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didn't scroll the page but you know
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sadly I'm out of tea
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it's getting late in europe and I'm
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starting to get tired
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so what I'm gonna do during this talk
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is just to do real survey for people who
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do not know what orgrom is about
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some of you might might have you know
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whilst browsing reddit
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found a topic about orgrom and thought
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to yourself oh that looks interesting
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but
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you know I have my own workflow and I
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get it don't need to change anything
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about it you know I'm completely fine
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using my very very large file or I'm
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completely fine having my
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database of notes which is I've been
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accruing for like 10 20 30 years or so
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so what I want to do during this talk
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is both to present to you what orgrom is
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about
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if you are in this group of people who
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do not
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know what algorithm is about but would
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like to know more but
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also for people who have close to no
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experience with Emacs and org mode and
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was just found their way you know they
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wanted to find the system to
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write their notes basically and you know
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they discovered this little tool which
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is called orgrome
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and they'd like to know more about this
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so I've got 13
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minutes to convince you to use hologram
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so if we go in a very broad strokes
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what is orgram orgrom
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is a way for you to manage backlinks
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inside
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old mode and the keyword
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in what I've just said is links now
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there is a principle behind orgrom
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which is called the zettelgasten method
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which you can see written right there
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it's a german word
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which means a slit box if you remember
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in old libraries
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you had actually I believe if I scroll I
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should have an example of this
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yes so this is a slip box basically in
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all libraries you used to have all the
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references to the books that the library
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used to have
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inside those boxes and they're called
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slim boxes because you can
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insert stuff into the boxes and you can
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remove stuff out of the boxes
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now basically if I try
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to summarize as simply as I may what the
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zettel cast method
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is about it's about having a way
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to work with your notes which considers
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elements of knowledge as atoms
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so as something that is individual like
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a single file
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and you consider that in order to build
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knowledge
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you have to combine atoms together so
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that
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when you have one atom another atom
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if you link them together you have a
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complex
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thought or a complex molecule
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okay don't quote me on the chemistry by
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the way I shall remind you I'm an
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english major I have no idea what I'm
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talking about
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so how does it work as far as a
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note-taking
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system is concerned and to do so
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I'm just going to switch really quickly
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to my Emacs if I
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may so I'm just going to screenshot
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onto my mac just give me a second to get
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the windows all right
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okay it's loading up oh no
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I think firefox has crashed again okay
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so you're gonna have to give me a second
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I need to figure this out
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okay so everything is frozen right now
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just to tell you so you're gonna have to
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deal with my lovely voice
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uh I mean can you confirm that if I
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switch to a new ttr you can still hear
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me
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so can you still hear me now
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okay so I'm gonna have probably to kill
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firefox and log in again
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so I'm sorry it's gonna cost us two
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minutes but I'm gonna try to be as fast
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as I can okay
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okay no problem thanks
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all right
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I guess no event is a good one without
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one or two technical difficulties
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so I guess this is our share of
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technical difficulties this year
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no problem
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all right guess who's back it's not
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britney it's just me sadly so you're
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gonna have to make do with me
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welcome back well thank you I'm just
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gonna turn back on the camera if I may
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all righty
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and I'm going to make myself a presenter
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and I'm going to
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share my screen with you sleep box
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testing
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hello
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so if my calculations are correct you
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should be able to see my monitor right
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now
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um yep but not your webcam feed
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not my webcam feed okay so I'm going to
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stop it
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sorry for the little delay folks you
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know it's uh
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the show must go on can you see it now
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um not yet still not
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damn it can I stop it okay so I'm gonna
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yeah maybe try like sharing a webcam
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first
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all right I'm back now so I'm going to
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share my webcam first
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okay
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[Music]
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all righty so can you confirm whenever
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you've got my webcam working
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let's see I don't see it yet
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unfortunately oh it's loading up yeah
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it's coming up
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yep I can see it awesome all right okay
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we're back on track I've got still eight
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minutes left to do so I might have to
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have a couple of minutes to my talk if
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you don't mind and shave off some
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questions
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okay do you want to share okay yeah
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I'm on my way too all right all right so
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please forget
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whatever whichever technical
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difficulties we might have have had for
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the last
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three four minutes but we're back on
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track now so
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uh orgrom what is it and how does it
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work so I was telling you all about
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atoms and I was telling you about links
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but how does it work concretely
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so right now what you're seeing on your
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screens
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is a slip box which is what we the fancy
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word that we use to designate your
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folder
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where all your notes are going to be
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living so you have here and I hope you
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can see my
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uh cursor yes you can so we have a file
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which is called
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index.org and the good thing is
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as you might have garnered by the fact
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that it finishes by
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that org is that it is just an old mod
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file
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so I can create a heading
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I can create another heading and
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everything works as you would expect it
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to
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it is completely it's just an awkward
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file at the end of the day
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so now what can we do with this
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now I've told you about links and you do
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know that
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org mode has links so what we're going
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to do
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is that we're going to create a new file
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so we're going to go back
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to our directory and what I'm going to
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do is that we have a special commands
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actually let me just
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show you my command I might help you a
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little bit
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see what I'm doing uh wait which is the
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buffer
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uh log mode yes exlog so now on the
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right side of the monitor you'll be able
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to see the command that I'm using
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if you don't mind in order to have as
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much realistic as possible I'm going to
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make it a little bit shorter
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smaller I should say is it not too small
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yeah I believe it's good
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so what I'm going to do is I'm going to
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run a command
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in orgrome which allows me to create a
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new note
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so I'm going to use my keybinding which
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is not this one definitely
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and I'm going to create a new file which
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is in a
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great tradition of examples in
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programming I'm going to call
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foo right so at the bottom
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in the bottom buffer I should say you
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are seeing the file
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foo which is as you can see here a
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capture buffer
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just like you would have in blog mode
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now what I'm going to do
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is that I'm going to validate this file
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and now
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you see that we are in the file foo
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and the good thing is that I can start
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writing without having to worry
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about anything else and I was thinking I
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was going to say to say that I'm
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showing off about my typing skills but I
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did make mistakes so
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well nobody's perfect right so now we do
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have this view file and we're going to
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go back to the index so let's go back to
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the directory
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we're going to refresh the file as you
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can see we have a file which is called
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foo
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and we have the index so now what I'm
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going to do
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is that I'm going to insert a link to
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this file
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so we're going to run another orgrim
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command which you can see here
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orgrim inset and I'm going to insert a
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link to the file
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foo and as you can see it has now
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appeared now what I'm going to do
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I'm going to save the file and now I'm
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going to show you
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the little thing I told you about
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backlinks before so I'm afraid I'm going
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to have to hide
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the commands for now but don't worry
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I'll be back
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and I'm going to show you the side
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buffer
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so it is the buffer that you see on the
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right side of your screen
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and right now it's telling you that
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index does not have any backlink
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which is normal but if we follow the
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link
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fu now you see something different on
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the right side so as you can see on the
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left side we're back insta inside the
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file foo
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but on the right side we have something
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showing up
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one backlink in the file index
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in under the heading heading you have
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the file
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sorry the link foo and you can just open
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the link
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and you will be brought exactly where it
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is so
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okay so that was one thing now just
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to make sure that you've understood
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properly I'm going to go back to the
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index
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I'm going to create a second file
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so now I'm going to use a command that
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is slightly different so let me just uh
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show you the commands on the right
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I'm going to run the command orgrim
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insert and I'm going to
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end to enter a file which is called bar
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so again at the bottom you can see that
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I have a new file bar
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I'm going to validate this file
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okay I'm going to save index.org
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and now if we go in bar and if I show
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you
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the links on the side you can see that
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exactly the same we have a link
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now just to make the pictures complete
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inside the file bar I'm going to insert
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a link to foo I'm going to save I'm
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going to go to the file foo and now on
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the right side
0:12:07.920,0:12:13.839
you can see that we have two backlinks
0:12:11.120,0:12:14.720
now you're gonna tell me yeah thank you
0:12:13.839,0:12:17.760
leo but
0:12:14.720,0:12:20.320
what's the point well the thing is
0:12:17.760,0:12:22.160
it might sound it might seem very simple
0:12:20.320,0:12:24.160
but I've just shown you
0:12:22.160,0:12:26.160
but programmatically it's a little hard
0:12:24.160,0:12:28.000
to do like we have to
0:12:26.160,0:12:30.079
look into your files to make sure that
0:12:28.000,0:12:32.240
every time you link your file
0:12:30.079,0:12:34.079
somewhere else we need to track
0:12:32.240,0:12:37.920
everything down
0:12:34.079,0:12:39.519
and now as simple as orgrum might be
0:12:37.920,0:12:42.240
looking to you
0:12:39.519,0:12:43.279
the thing is what we try to do with
0:12:42.240,0:12:45.920
orgrum
0:12:43.279,0:12:46.399
is to make sure that your collection of
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notes
0:12:46.399,0:12:54.079
remains consistent whatever we do
0:12:50.320,0:12:56.880
an example for instance like right now
0:12:54.079,0:12:58.000
I've told you about a file named foo and
0:12:56.880,0:13:01.120
the file name
0:12:58.000,0:13:03.920
bar let's say that for whatever reason
0:13:01.120,0:13:04.720
you decide to rename your file foo to
0:13:03.920,0:13:08.079
something
0:13:04.720,0:13:11.040
very original let's just say bar
0:13:08.079,0:13:12.320
so we actually have a way in Emacs in
0:13:11.040,0:13:14.560
orgrim I should say
0:13:12.320,0:13:15.680
when you modify the title at the top of
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the file
0:13:15.680,0:13:20.320
so we get foo I've modified it with baz
0:13:18.880,0:13:22.000
you can see at the bottom that right now
0:13:20.320,0:13:22.519
we haven't saved and we are still in the
0:13:22.000,0:13:26.079
file
0:13:22.519,0:13:29.360
fu.org I'm going to save
0:13:26.079,0:13:32.560
and now what you see is
0:13:29.360,0:13:35.360
a new name for the file but you may ask
0:13:32.560,0:13:36.880
wait a second in the other file we had a
0:13:35.360,0:13:38.880
link to this file
0:13:36.880,0:13:40.560
does it mean that it's broken does it
0:13:38.880,0:13:43.440
means does it mean sorry
0:13:40.560,0:13:43.920
that we cannot access the file anymore
0:13:43.440,0:13:46.959
but
0:13:43.920,0:13:48.000
when we go there beginning to go in the
0:13:46.959,0:13:50.399
index
0:13:48.000,0:13:52.079
so obviously the actual description of
0:13:50.399,0:13:54.320
the link hasn't been updated
0:13:52.079,0:13:55.680
but if I show you what goes on under the
0:13:54.320,0:13:57.440
hood by showing you
0:13:55.680,0:14:00.000
what is fontify what is behind the
0:13:57.440,0:14:02.320
content of the link
0:14:00.000,0:14:04.079
actually it didn't work and that's why
0:14:02.320,0:14:04.639
you never present live folks because
0:14:04.079,0:14:05.920
otherwise you're
0:14:04.639,0:14:08.880
just going to show problems with the
0:14:05.920,0:14:12.079
software and that's not good
0:14:08.880,0:14:15.120
so something must have gone on obviously
0:14:12.079,0:14:17.120
but generally speaking the file should
0:14:15.120,0:14:18.959
have been updated
0:14:17.120,0:14:21.279
damn I'm showing you bugging my software
0:14:18.959,0:14:25.040
that's not very professional now is it
0:14:21.279,0:14:28.079
basically to come back to the main id
0:14:25.040,0:14:28.880
what we try to do with orgrom is to make
0:14:28.079,0:14:32.639
sure that
0:14:28.880,0:14:35.279
everything remains consistent we
0:14:32.639,0:14:37.360
really much love the system of
0:14:35.279,0:14:38.720
organization that is behind this little
0:14:37.360,0:14:40.240
castle method
0:14:38.720,0:14:41.600
now I was going at this point of the
0:14:40.240,0:14:42.639
presentation basically I wanted to go
0:14:41.600,0:14:45.199
back to firefox
0:14:42.639,0:14:46.880
and show you more stuff but it's likely
0:14:45.199,0:14:48.959
that it's going to crash again
0:14:46.880,0:14:50.240
so I'm not going to tempt the devil and
0:14:48.959,0:14:51.680
I'm just going to continue talking to
0:14:50.240,0:14:54.800
you like that
0:14:51.680,0:14:58.160
so the zettelkasten method
0:14:54.800,0:15:01.839
is a very organic way
0:14:58.160,0:15:04.959
to write notes and if you think
0:15:01.839,0:15:06.639
I I believe as all mode users
0:15:04.959,0:15:08.000
we share quite a lot of features and I'm
0:15:06.639,0:15:09.600
out of time I'm just going to take one
0:15:08.000,0:15:12.320
more minute to answer this question
0:15:09.600,0:15:14.560
that I'm asking myself anyway but if
0:15:12.320,0:15:16.079
you're anything like me
0:15:14.560,0:15:18.240
you've you've been through many
0:15:16.079,0:15:18.959
iterations of your workflow inside of
0:15:18.240,0:15:20.959
mode
0:15:18.959,0:15:22.959
do I keep all my professional stuff
0:15:20.959,0:15:24.399
under one heading or do I create a
0:15:22.959,0:15:25.920
separate file for this
0:15:24.399,0:15:28.000
you know those types of questions on
0:15:25.920,0:15:30.639
which you could ponder for
0:15:28.000,0:15:31.360
many many hours at night generally when
0:15:30.639,0:15:34.560
you have a
0:15:31.360,0:15:36.959
tight deadline to be following but
0:15:34.560,0:15:38.240
what I've discovered by using orgrim for
0:15:36.959,0:15:40.720
taking notes about
0:15:38.240,0:15:41.360
my academic projects or by taking notes
0:15:40.720,0:15:44.880
on
0:15:41.360,0:15:47.440
you know anything worth writing about
0:15:44.880,0:15:49.199
is that not having to worry about the
0:15:47.440,0:15:52.399
structure if you files
0:15:49.199,0:15:56.079
just having to worry about atoms
0:15:52.399,0:15:58.480
and links it does wonder
0:15:56.079,0:16:00.639
for the way you think about problems it
0:15:58.480,0:16:04.800
does wonder about your creativity
0:16:00.639,0:16:07.519
and it does wonder about your ability to
0:16:04.800,0:16:08.800
take your thoughts put them on a paper
0:16:07.519,0:16:10.399
and generally you know during this
0:16:08.800,0:16:13.120
process you realize oh maybe I do not
0:16:10.399,0:16:16.079
know this concept as well as I should
0:16:13.120,0:16:16.800
but I've never had a system which
0:16:16.079,0:16:19.839
brought me
0:16:16.800,0:16:21.440
as much serendipity as this system
0:16:19.839,0:16:24.880
and for those who don't know serendipity
0:16:21.440,0:16:28.800
the ability to come up with novel ideas
0:16:24.880,0:16:32.240
on the spot contextually so
0:16:28.800,0:16:34.959
this was just a little primer on what
0:16:32.240,0:16:36.000
orgrom and the zettelkasten is about in
0:16:34.959,0:16:38.000
about
0:16:36.000,0:16:39.680
20 minutes I'll be giving you a talk
0:16:38.000,0:16:40.800
about the technical aspects of orgrim
0:16:39.680,0:16:43.040
which I'm certain
0:16:40.800,0:16:44.160
some of you will be very interested in
0:16:43.040,0:16:46.160
and
0:16:44.160,0:16:48.560
otherwise I do have a youtube channel
0:16:46.160,0:16:50.720
where I try to
0:16:48.560,0:16:52.079
record videos where I explain to you
0:16:50.720,0:16:53.839
what the org
0:16:52.079,0:16:55.600
what organ is about what the method is
0:16:53.839,0:16:57.040
about and
0:16:55.600,0:16:58.720
and I'll just finish on this I'm two
0:16:57.040,0:17:02.399
minutes extra time sorry
0:16:58.720,0:17:04.079
but um we do know that a lot of people
0:17:02.399,0:17:04.959
are interested into orgrim I mentioned
0:17:04.079,0:17:06.160
at the very beginning of the
0:17:04.959,0:17:09.360
presentation
0:17:06.160,0:17:10.640
that a lot of people discovered Emacs
0:17:09.360,0:17:14.640
and orgrom
0:17:10.640,0:17:18.400
and old mode even through orgrom
0:17:14.640,0:17:20.959
and we feel that we have a duty to
0:17:18.400,0:17:22.720
introduce those people this new pool of
0:17:20.959,0:17:25.439
people most of whom are
0:17:22.720,0:17:27.600
academics into the world of Emacs and
0:17:25.439,0:17:30.240
into the water free software
0:17:27.600,0:17:32.240
and right now the thing is we're not
0:17:30.240,0:17:34.080
doing a particularly good job at writing
0:17:32.240,0:17:36.160
manuals I'm just going to try
0:17:34.080,0:17:37.360
to stop sharing my screen because I'm
0:17:36.160,0:17:40.240
nearly to the end
0:17:37.360,0:17:41.919
and just try sharing my firefox windows
0:17:40.240,0:17:43.120
if it allows me no it doesn't allow me
0:17:41.919,0:17:44.160
which is very good that's why I won't
0:17:43.120,0:17:47.200
have to
0:17:44.160,0:17:50.080
to screw things up but
0:17:47.200,0:17:50.880
uh we know that our manual is not fully
0:17:50.080,0:17:53.760
up to date
0:17:50.880,0:17:54.480
but believe me one of the key focus
0:17:53.760,0:17:56.960
right now
0:17:54.480,0:17:57.840
is making sure that within two to three
0:17:56.960,0:17:59.679
months
0:17:57.840,0:18:02.559
we have a good tutorial for people to
0:17:59.679,0:18:03.840
join and we have good videos for people
0:18:02.559,0:18:04.640
to get introduced to the topics we're
0:18:03.840,0:18:06.320
covering
0:18:04.640,0:18:07.679
and that's me done so thank you so much
0:18:06.320,0:18:09.840
for listening and now I'll be taking
0:18:07.679,0:18:12.880
some questions
0:18:09.840,0:18:17.679
thank you very much leo oh thank you
0:18:12.880,0:18:19.440
cheers we have I think about two minutes
0:18:17.679,0:18:20.880
four questions and I see a lot of them
0:18:19.440,0:18:23.120
on the pad
0:18:20.880,0:18:24.320
would you take them sure so yep I'm
0:18:23.120,0:18:27.600
scrolling I'm scrolling
0:18:24.320,0:18:30.000
uh getting things done that's aldrich uh
0:18:27.600,0:18:31.679
still scrolling okay olgram oh wow okay
0:18:30.000,0:18:33.600
so we do have quite a lot of questions
0:18:31.679,0:18:34.799
so please excuse me if I'm answering
0:18:33.600,0:18:35.760
your questions really fast but I just
0:18:34.799,0:18:38.080
want to make sure that I cover
0:18:35.760,0:18:40.240
as much ground as possible so what is
0:18:38.080,0:18:41.039
the functionality of all chrome unlinked
0:18:40.240,0:18:43.200
references
0:18:41.039,0:18:45.200
so basically when you have a file that
0:18:43.200,0:18:48.000
is not linked anywhere
0:18:45.200,0:18:49.520
this function allows you to see uh let's
0:18:48.000,0:18:51.200
say we have a file Emacs
0:18:49.520,0:18:53.200
and we've talked about Emacs in another
0:18:51.200,0:18:57.440
note but we haven't created a link
0:18:53.200,0:18:59.520
what this command do is that it
0:18:57.440,0:19:00.720
looks into your folder for every mention
0:18:59.520,0:19:03.840
of Emacs that is not
0:19:00.720,0:19:05.039
linked to the note Emacs and it prints
0:19:03.840,0:19:06.480
all the results in the buffer so that
0:19:05.039,0:19:07.840
you know okay I've talked about Emacs
0:19:06.480,0:19:10.480
here but I didn't create a link
0:19:07.840,0:19:11.840
do I want to create a link that's it so
0:19:10.480,0:19:12.480
is it possible to use the backlinks
0:19:11.840,0:19:15.039
features
0:19:12.480,0:19:16.400
in regular old buffers right now no it
0:19:15.039,0:19:18.080
is not possible we are
0:19:16.400,0:19:20.240
having a very controlled environment
0:19:18.080,0:19:21.280
which is I told you about this clipbox
0:19:20.240,0:19:22.799
folder before
0:19:21.280,0:19:24.400
this is where we keep all the nodes and
0:19:22.799,0:19:26.080
the reason why we do this will be more
0:19:24.400,0:19:27.360
evident when I go through the technical
0:19:26.080,0:19:30.720
presentation
0:19:27.360,0:19:32.080
but uh it's because of optimization
0:19:30.720,0:19:33.760
so I'll get back to you on that
0:19:32.080,0:19:35.440
afterwards um
0:19:33.760,0:19:37.039
do you make all group database
0:19:35.440,0:19:39.760
accessible across computers
0:19:37.039,0:19:41.760
uh no I do not because I'm only using my
0:19:39.760,0:19:44.559
laptop but plenty of people have had
0:19:41.760,0:19:47.039
a lot of success doing so either by
0:19:44.559,0:19:47.679
sharing the files via a sync thing or by
0:19:47.039,0:19:49.760
any other
0:19:47.679,0:19:52.400
method we have a section in a manual
0:19:49.760,0:19:53.760
specifying how to do this uh how do you
0:19:52.400,0:19:54.880
discover the tags links to add to your
0:19:53.760,0:19:56.160
new algorithm note
0:19:54.880,0:19:57.679
there is something that I didn't tell
0:19:56.160,0:19:58.240
you about which is called orgrim server
0:19:57.679,0:20:01.679
which is a
0:19:58.240,0:20:04.320
magnificent way to uh access
0:20:01.679,0:20:05.360
visually the nodes that you have in your
0:20:04.320,0:20:07.840
in your system
0:20:05.360,0:20:08.799
you'll have to go to the orgrom.com
0:20:07.840,0:20:10.640
website
0:20:08.799,0:20:12.080
and please go on our github page and we
0:20:10.640,0:20:14.640
show everything and
0:20:12.080,0:20:16.000
um I hope what I've told you has excited
0:20:14.640,0:20:18.000
you so please go
0:20:16.000,0:20:20.080
uh maybe one more question two more
0:20:18.000,0:20:21.679
questions just to make sure uh is it
0:20:20.080,0:20:23.039
possible to seamlessly link to other
0:20:21.679,0:20:23.919
notes with syntax instead of a
0:20:23.039,0:20:25.840
keybinding
0:20:23.919,0:20:27.120
yes we are working on this this is a
0:20:25.840,0:20:28.880
huge project that we're doing with
0:20:27.120,0:20:30.960
orgrim which is called uh
0:20:28.880,0:20:32.880
link ux and we're trying to do something
0:20:30.960,0:20:34.559
which is very close to rome research
0:20:32.880,0:20:36.880
which is the software we're using for
0:20:34.559,0:20:39.200
inspiration for orgrom
0:20:36.880,0:20:41.280
and uh yes there's there are going to be
0:20:39.200,0:20:42.640
ways to do this in the future I'm going
0:20:41.280,0:20:45.280
to give you a window of
0:20:42.640,0:20:46.320
maybe three to four months and one last
0:20:45.280,0:20:48.480
question
0:20:46.320,0:20:49.440
uh good on you thank you well thank you
0:20:48.480,0:20:51.039
for for this
0:20:49.440,0:20:53.200
is there an easy way to export several
0:20:51.039,0:20:56.960
selected nodes to say a lattice file
0:20:53.200,0:20:59.840
latex yes uh I mean it's old mode
0:20:56.960,0:21:00.480
at the very core it is org mode so you
0:20:59.840,0:21:02.559
know you don't
0:21:00.480,0:21:04.000
if you want to export to latex file you
0:21:02.559,0:21:06.320
can you just use the
0:21:04.000,0:21:08.320
aux latex library which you can access
0:21:06.320,0:21:11.760
by pressing ctrl c ctrl
0:21:08.320,0:21:12.480
e for export all right is it uh I
0:21:11.760,0:21:13.919
believe I'm
0:21:12.480,0:21:16.880
it's all the time I had I mean can you
0:21:13.919,0:21:19.039
confirm this
0:21:16.880,0:21:20.240
okay so if you have more questions don't
0:21:19.039,0:21:23.679
worry I'll be in chat
0:21:20.240,0:21:26.799
I'll be answering them uh I'm also on on
0:21:23.679,0:21:28.159
all the platforms we advertise on on
0:21:26.799,0:21:29.280
orgram if you want to reach me I'm
0:21:28.159,0:21:31.919
really easy to reach
0:21:29.280,0:21:32.559
our gita page is always open so thank
0:21:31.919,0:21:35.520
you all for
0:21:32.559,0:21:37.440
all your questions and all your energy
0:21:35.520,0:21:38.640
about orgrim it is very exciting for me
0:21:37.440,0:21:42.000
to to see all this
0:21:38.640,0:21:44.080
but right now I'll be ending off the
0:21:42.000,0:21:45.840
microphone I should say to nura who is
0:21:44.080,0:21:48.480
going to talk to you about the
0:21:45.840,0:21:50.080
academic way to use orgrom and I'll be
0:21:48.480,0:21:53.760
back afterwards with the technical talk
0:21:50.080,0:21:57.760
okay thank you thank you very much leo
0:21:53.760,0:21:57.760
see you later guys
