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I can yes

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okay um yeah so I'm uh zachary canfer

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let's go to the

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questions uh the first question uh why

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do we go top to bottom for time

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progression

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uh and left to right uh for low to high

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interesting I think uh so the initial

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uh thing I was copying that initial app

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work this way

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um and

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yeah I mean certainly traditional music

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you know on a staff uh

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does go left to right uh like this

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um I mean going top to bottom does make

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it easier to add more beats without

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having to wrap but certainly that could

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be managed

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um yeah I I had not really thought about

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it but it is definitely something worth

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looking into

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uh yeah you are now unmuted

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ah good point thank you let me go ahead

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and do that

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uh the entire screen

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okay so the screen share should be

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starting

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there we go cool all right uh

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two will be placed on the song um not

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now I can I can make some recordings of

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it or certainly you can try it

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um I couldn't quite get the the

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microphone and the webcam and everything

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to work with the sound playing now um so

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uh I can record some also please uh

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I put a link at the uh here in the uh

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etherpad https://zck.me/emacsconf2020 

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where you can go and get the source

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and you can try it yourself uh there's

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no dependencies needed so it's just all

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in Emacs um so please you know try it

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yourself

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any chance for an Emacs tracker or mod

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player

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um I don't really know what a mod player

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or tracker

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are but I mean I'm sure

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that would be cool uh maybe there's one

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on now but I don't know uh

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my musical background so I've played

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various instruments since about the

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third grade

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uh started recorder uh play cello I play

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guitar now

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um but yeah so just kind of random

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instruments and

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uh yeah I guess kind of some of those

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things

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influence how I think about music um

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uh yeah um

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are there any open source musical

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management sample libraries that could

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be used

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um good question I'm sure there are um I

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don't know any that integrate really

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well with Emacs

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one of the cool things that I liked

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about this is that there are no

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dependencies

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you know you don't need any external

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program to

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uh generate the music I mean it it does

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shell out to

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to play um but that

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should be able to be done on any

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operating system as always you have

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something that can play wav files

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um but yeah it is interesting to kind of

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try the different

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uh different sounds and different

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tones uh that you could get with

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different instruments

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have I written any actual songs um

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nothing

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super uh

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uh well put together just I kind of just

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been playing around with this

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it's kind of I making this was one of

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those things where like once I made it I

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was like okay

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now I can play with it and I did a

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little bit and was like I don't know if

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I feel like it right now

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you know which I've I've found that to

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be the case with some things that I've

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implemented

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in Emacs where it's I make it and then

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it's the kind of some of the desire to

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use it all the time

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goes away but I'm sure I'll circle back

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around

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at some point especially kind of maybe

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once I add in different tones or

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something

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I guess a similar question for

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pre-recorded sounds yeah I mean

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if it's part of what I did what I wrote

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was a

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wave generation library so if you kind

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of have the data

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you could use those and like chop them

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up and take certain lengths of them

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and make a wav file so it's not plug and

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play right now but you could certainly

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add those notes uh to do it

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um any knitting midi mapping

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possibilities um

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I haven't looked into it but I'm sure

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you definitely could output to midi

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um which is another benefit of having

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that multiple layers with the top layer

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is just like

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um you know if the root note is this

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we're just two semitones up or seven

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semitones up or whatever it is

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uh it should be relatively simple to

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kind of switch out that layer underneath

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uh from wave to midi or other things

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what were some of the challenges with

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writing a special mode for Emacs

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uh interested in getting into this not

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sure where to start

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um there uh yeah it so

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this isn't the first mode I've written

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um so that's right

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certainly that helps um I actually

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um I have a video that we recorded it

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as part of Emacs nyc on making a major

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mode

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that's basically like starts from

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nothing and kind of builds up to

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an implementation of tic-tac-toe um

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but so it kind of goes into printing

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things out and buttons and making the

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mode

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I mean one of the best parts about Emacs

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is because it's so

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uh configurable and so introspectible

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you can start pretty simply

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and just kind of asking max about things

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and then make one little

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change um it's really it's not that bad

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so uh

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I'll try to throw a link up on that uh

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on on that page I put up or

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please email me for whoever asked this

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question uh to get a link to that video

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um or just look at look at the source

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code of this or any other major mode

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um it it's pretty ems breaks it makes it

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pretty easy to extend uh

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major modes and I think that's that's

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the last question

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in the ether pad so uh thanks so much

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everybody for coming

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you are now unmuted uh thank you so much

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to curry for your awesome talk

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and for doing live questions

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thank you thank you cheers