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[[!meta title="Meeting notes"]]
[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2020 Amin Bandali, Sacha Chua, David O'Toole, Corwin Brust, Leo Vivier, Daniel Gopar"]]
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# Ongoing projects

-   Subtitles/transcripts: sachac, bhavin192
-   FOSSHost: mplsCorwin
-   Calendar, connecting with meetups: sachac
-   Streaming infrastructure for meetups?: bandali, sachac
-   Amin and Gopar's podcast: bandali, gopar
-   mplsCorwin's livestreaming project, working on trimming
-   Writing about Emacs: zaeph


# January 21, 2021 meeting

-   Updates
    -   Sacha:
        -   Added transcript for 08 and edited subtitles for 21; only 03-questions and the opening/closing remarks remaining for day 1


# January 14, 2021 meeting

-   Updates:
    -   Sacha: 
        -   More subtitles edited (bhavin192 is helping too). Almost done
            with day 1 except for opening/closing remarks and manual transcriptions for 03-questions and 08
        -   switched to using emacsnews Reddit account
        -   scheduled tweets from @sachac about upcoming Emacs events - do you want these mirrored to @emacsconf or something?
            -   no new events aside from the ones already on the calendar
    -   bandali: recorded first episode of Emacs Weekly, skipped the news component and just had an interview about EmacsConf
        -   next: 
            -   mix audio together and edit it
        -   plan to have several buffer episodes before releasing, maybe beginning of February
            -   can put together separate segments
            -   news might be doable with less prep
            -   can do solo episodes
            -   maybe community hosts, too?
        -   nudge from Sacha to transcribe or have show notes if possible =)
        -   gopar doesn't have a laptop at the moment
        -   which parts of your config might be good to contribute to core? 
            questions to nudge people to contribute to core/packages
            -   This question coudl also be used in workshops settings with a sense of chronology: 1. publish it online, 2. merge it to core?
-   Q for mplsCorwin: would you like to transcribe 03-questions and 08, or shall I go ahead and do them? - sachac
-   Q for bandali: is the emacsnews Reddit thing handy for you? It's okay if you're still experimenting.
    -   not tested yet
-   Testing quick collaboration
    -   Testing tmate so that other people can edit the meeting minutes easily
    -   Test? it is working!
    -   Here I am in tmate and emacsclient. Each person can have their own emacsclient tab.
-   pat selves on back for getting stuff done, yay
-   Diversity workshop: It'd be nice to organise a 2h session where we discuss every problem that arised in the last conference, and pre-empt those that might arise for the next editions
    -   Using the word 'open source'
    -   Lack of diversity in the presentations (CFP?)
-   Next steps:
    -   sachac: follow up with mplsCorwin or transcribe 03-questions, 08; then all the day 1 talks will be done


# January 7, 2021 meeting

-   Checking in:
    -   bandali, zaeph, gopar, sachac, dto
    -   bandali: fairly uneventful, things are going okay, learning more about Jami, experimenting with DSLR for webcam but aspect ratio is a little weird
    -   sachac: virtual school started again; EmacsNYC meetup; emacs calendar in HTML and Org
    -   dto: having fun with neural networks
    -   zaeph: at his parents, can't do much work, enjoying the lull; figuring out collaborative slipboxing with org-roam; getting more into writing
    -   gopar
-   Agenda:
    -   Update: emacslife.com/calendar
    -   Update: attended NYC meetup
    -   methodology
    -   bandali
        -   met with organizers of EmacsNYC. They were curious about BBB and Jitsi, streaming, IRC web client
        -   met with gopar last night re: podcast
        -   will work on a blog post about the technical setup
        -   someone wanted to set up a meetup in Mexico, too, so maybe we can make an updated starting-a-meetup guide (<https://harryrschwartz.com/2015/09/14/starting-an-emacs-meetup.html>)
            -   how to find people and advertise
                -   reddit.com/r/emacs
                -   Emacs News
                -   <https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Usergroups>
            -   how to stream and record
            -   what it might be like if there are no presentations (don't worry! hang out, share cool stuff, figure things out together, flip through Emacs News)
            -   sharing afterwards
    -   CRDT: see BBB chat if you want to try it
    -   dto:
        -   tutorial; (also, SystemCrafters just livestreamed an Emacs Lisp tutorial too)
        -   Hmm, it's like having lab hours
            -   Could be open (office hours, bring your questions; maybe a liiittle structure) or guided (here's an exercise to start with)
        -   podcast
        -   Upcoming workshops
        -   BBB has breakout rooms, might be worth looking into if it scales up a lot; Jitsi can have multiple people sharing screens at the same time;
        -   EmacsNYC said Jitsi is okay for the 20-30 people they've seen so far; EmacsBerlin said the same too (I think they self-host; want to see how they're doing it?). Sounds like it's much better now than it was last year
        -   dto will figure it out and write things up =)
        -   one-on-one tutorial was nice; finger memory for how to type some of these Lisp expressions
        -   it's better to have that interactivity, I think, since there are plenty of lecture-type resources on the Net
        -   one-on-one is fine, and then you can scale up (1-on-2, etc.) as you become more comfortable with it and see what can help you scale (ex: having them SSH into a shared server with emacsclients and then being able to quickly flip through their buffers so that you can peek over their shoulder or quickly show something?)
    -   gopar: upcoming podcast recording re: EmacsConf experience
        -   figuring out name
        -   planning to have a little buffer
            -   Hey, do you want to blend that into the Emacs Lisp / Emacs tutorial/workshop idea? Whenever you don't have any content, you can teach people a little more
            
            -
    -   bhavin192: Mailing list for meetups (some common prefix or something similar).
        -   **let's remember to discuss this and the next point** =)
    -   bhavin192: Update to Code of Conduct (I was hoping to use the same text or page for Emacs APAC meetup)
    -   zaeph: figuring out collaborating via Org Mode
        -   per-project pages make sense if you think about it from the web publishing point of view
        -   bandali: can be a different wiki if you want
        -   zaeph is a little intimidated by the idea of working with the garage door open
            -   there is already a private organizer wiki, so we can use that to incubate things if you want to collaboratively work on notes and stuff
        -   also totally okay to work on things individually and not collectively if you want, and we don't have to figure out workflows that work for everyone or a name that covers everything; sounding official increases expectations and may cause problems
        -
    -   Next:


# January 2, 2021 meeting

-   Conversations
    -   mplsCorwin: FOSSHost: okay to experiment with being a CDN, will
        experiment with videos
        -   authenticated RTMP server to support streaming meetups from Jitsi?
        -   PeerTube?
    -   sachac: added more events to
        <https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Usergroups> and the calendar
    -   sachac: subed.el patches for splitting and merging subtitles, will
        continue editing subtitles
    -   Podcast:
        -   Thinking about name: 
            -   Current: emacs.el podcast
            -   Emacs Weekly? Probably okay, although includes commitment to
                actually make it weekly
            -   Amin and Gopar's Wild World of Emacs?
        -   ideas for making it visually interesting when there's no video
        -   Suggested guest: Fermin - interesting story about how he got into
            Emacs and started making it better for PHP
    -   Making these conversations more public:
        -   Maybe start with just putting public meeting minutes somewhere,
            like the wiki, and then figure out if anyone actually wants to
            subscribe to it =)
            -   E-mail summary to mailing list?
            -   <https://emacsconf.org/2020/meetings/> announced on IRC
                \#emacsconf
            -   With long-form summary at some point?
            -   dto volunteering to help Leo (it turns out dto was also an
                English major in his past life, and has done a fair bit of
                copyediting)
            -   mplsCorwin can handle social media
            -   bandali: avoid perfectionism
                -   Lots of people have a hard time with this
                -   getting things out of your head = good
                -   don't let the great be the enemy of the good. Take advantage
                    of the friendly community.
                -   dto: story about local trails committee, which is kind of like
                    this
                -   Look, we can just post a rough outline, whee! =)
                -   bullet-points are fine as a starting point
        -   Segments of recording? Timer in the pad can help. 
        -   Livestream with delay?
            -   Something to grow into, maybe; let's start with text and
                possibly recording segments
        -   Maybe private part and then public part, with time notes in case
            there are things we need to remove from the recording, keeping
            private segment as short as possible
            -   Everyone's cool with this
            -   Discussed: Separate days for private and public meeting? Might
                take too much time. 
        -   Guidelines for private segments: document reasons if possible
            -   Confidentiality
            -   Buzz factor: vet ideas before unleashing them? preview?
        -   Figuring out the persona/voice/feeling for EmacsConf, for the
            meeting
            -   Hard to figure out how to communicate both excitement and
                reserve
            -   Diversity and perspective: we're trying to figure out how this
                comes across from the outside, without our own knowledge
            -   sachac: We could try to just dump the outline for starters, and
                can come up with quick automation for transforming the Etherpad
                =)
            -   Is it because we're trying to figure out the official voice for
                EmacsConf? Is it easier to talk as individuals?
    -   Sticker giveaway: mplsCorwin
-   Next week, 3PM UTC Saturday, Leo to send calendar invite and/or e-mail:
    -   Leo will write a summary of what we've been doing and put it in the
        pad, for e-mailing out?
    -   Braindumps welcome =)
    -   Week after: public meeting/recording