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[[!template text="""Thank you for the call. And we can hear you as well. Great. If""" start="00:00:00.549" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you want to put on your webcam as well, that'd be good.""" start="00:00:02.771" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Hello. Okay, great. We're back. Sorry for having to call""" start="00:00:10.817" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you, but just I needed to catch your attention somehow. No,""" start="00:00:12.458" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""it's great. It's perfect. So how are you doing? I'm doing""" start="00:00:16.381" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""very well. How are you? I'm doing good as well. I'm starting""" start="00:00:19.544" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to get tired because it's about to be 10 p.m for me and the""" start="00:00:23.332" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""energy cost of hosting is starting to take a toll on me but I'm""" start="00:00:23.332" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""fully there presently and I'm really happy to be here to""" start="00:00:23.332" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""field you some questions although I don't see any just yet.""" start="00:00:23.332" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Let me just get how long we have until we need to go to the next""" start="00:00:40.440" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""talk. We have until 4.05 which leaves us about 15 minutes""" start="00:00:40.440" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Joseph, I'll first start with a question. Well, first, I'll""" start="00:00:49.523" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""obviously thank you for your presentation, which I""" start="00:00:50.984" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""personally found to be very didactic, because I know that""" start="00:00:50.984" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Prat already presented Hyperdrive last year, and you are""" start="00:00:50.984" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""presenting this year with something a little more visual,""" start="00:00:50.984" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I found it to be very didactic. So, first, thank you for""" start="00:00:50.984" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""all this. And I wanted to give you the opportunity as well""" start="00:01:09.388" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""if... Oh, let me just make sure. Do we have audio on? Let me""" start="00:01:11.688" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""check. Let me just check something. Let me just make sure""" start="00:01:19.635" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that we have audio on. I have a few things I wanted to mention""" start="00:01:22.418" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""first before any questions come in. One was that...""" start="00:01:24.599" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Can you hear me? Let me just ask the little helps in the""" start="00:01:30.584" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""background. Sure.""" start="00:01:35.529" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Not sure if my audio is working or not.""" start="00:01:42.855" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""have someone to verify for us.""" start="00:01:50.014" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Leo, is my audio working? Yeah, I can hear you just fine and I""" start="00:01:54.337" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""think we fixed it now. One thing I wanted to mention was that""" start="00:01:58.020" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""as with last year, I just released a new version of""" start="00:02:02.523" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""hyperdrive.el and it depends on the latest release of""" start="00:02:02.523" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""transient.el and so if you are going to install this""" start="00:02:02.523" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""package, make sure that you restart your Emacs after you""" start="00:02:20.188" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""install it, if you aren't already up to date with transient,""" start="00:02:20.188" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which was released yesterday. Otherwise, since it, this""" start="00:02:20.188" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""latest version of transient.el updates the transient""" start="00:02:34.512" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""prefix EIEIO class, and it won't work unless you restart""" start="00:02:34.512" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Emacs. Okay, well, good to know. I think that's a small price""" start="00:02:34.512" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to pay to be on a bleeding est of bleeding edges. All right, I""" start="00:02:51.594" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""see there's a question here. Let me see if I can read it. Yeah,""" start="00:02:58.558" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""sure. Do you want me to field it to you or do you want to read it?""" start="00:03:01.439" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Oh, sure. Go ahead. I'd love to hear you read it. Sure. Thank""" start="00:03:03.820" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you. So first question. Hi there. Thank you for the talk. I""" start="00:03:06.628" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""enjoyed watching it. I tried this tool last year and it""" start="00:03:10.311" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""seemed to work well, but I don't know anyone who actually""" start="00:03:11.953" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""uses it. Network effects are tricky. Do you know of any""" start="00:03:11.953" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""public shares people can join to try to try this tool out""" start="00:03:18.198" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""properly? Thank you. Network effects are indeed tricky.""" start="00:03:18.198" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Yeah. That's kind of part of the purpose of the peer graph is""" start="00:03:26.925" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to make it easier to discover peers in a way that's more, uh,""" start="00:03:29.447" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""more reliable and consistent than just somebody puts a""" start="00:03:34.898" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""public key on Reddit and then it's lost unless somebody""" start="00:03:34.898" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""finds it. Um, but the, the public keys that I know of are,""" start="00:03:34.898" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""there's the public key for the ushen hyperdrive, which is""" start="00:03:45.725" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""basically just the same content that's on the website""" start="00:03:45.725" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""mirrored to a hyperdrive. Um, and then there are a few other""" start="00:03:45.725" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""ones. There's like, uh, hypha.coop has some WebZine""" start="00:03:59.814" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""content accessible via HyperDrive and also via IPFS. And""" start="00:04:04.261" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""then movesignweaver has a blog that's also available on""" start="00:04:15.584" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Hyper. So that's blog.move.moe.""" start="00:04:15.584" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But besides that, that's kind of the purpose of this""" start="00:04:28.427" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""PureGraph thing is to make it easier to discover other""" start="00:04:28.427" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""peers. Yeah, to make it also very visual in a way, because,""" start="00:04:33.035" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you know, I personally, it's funny because it reminded me of""" start="00:04:36.337" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""talks that I did in the past about the trust system for PGP""" start="00:04:36.337" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""keychains, because at the end of the day, you know, this""" start="00:04:36.337" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""trust system, whether you trust someone absolutely or""" start="00:04:36.337" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""relatively, the blocking system, it feels very related.""" start="00:04:36.337" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Any kind of a chain of trust like this, feels very""" start="00:04:56.450" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""reminiscent, obviously, but it felt very nice that for you,""" start="00:04:59.392" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you had a dynamic display of this web of trust. Whereas for""" start="00:04:59.392" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""me, I had to make fancy diagram in ticks, in latex, just to""" start="00:05:06.739" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""make sure that people understood what was actually going""" start="00:05:06.739" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""on. Yeah, one thing I want to point out is just the difference""" start="00:05:06.739" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""in utility for something like the PGP web of trust versus""" start="00:05:15.346" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""this kind of network of peers is, if I understand right, the""" start="00:05:24.207" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""main purpose of web of trust is to identify that a certain""" start="00:05:24.207" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""public key is actually created by the person that they claim""" start="00:05:24.207" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to be. So you have a way of identifying that a key actually""" start="00:05:24.207" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""matches like a government identity. Whereas this kind of""" start="00:05:45.900" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""network of peers has nothing to do with authenticating a key""" start="00:05:51.023" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or associating a key with an identity, like a government""" start="00:05:53.752" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""identity. The purpose is exclusively just to get more peers""" start="00:05:53.752" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to be able to discover more peers who have things that are""" start="00:06:00.959" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""worth reading.""" start="00:06:00.959" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Yeah, it's a different take on a concept, but even though the""" start="00:06:13.038" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""concept might be the same, I find there's a wealth of things""" start="00:06:13.038" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that can be done thanks to this, because as you said, you""" start="00:06:13.038" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""trust someone to send you a file that is trustworthy. Well,""" start="00:06:13.038" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""with PGP, it's mostly about communication, but about file""" start="00:06:26.743" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""sharing, it just opens up completely new avenues. Yeah. Do""" start="00:06:26.743" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you have anything else to add? And about that, I think one of""" start="00:06:37.547" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the barriers to the PGP web of trust is that it required""" start="00:06:42.168" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""getting together to have key parties to meet people and""" start="00:06:42.168" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""verify identities. Whereas with this kind of thing,""" start="00:06:42.168" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""there's no need to do that because so long as your content is""" start="00:06:52.635" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""interesting, it doesn't matter that you're not who you""" start="00:06:52.635" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""claim to be or that you don't even claim to be anybody. Yeah, I""" start="00:06:52.635" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""mean, again, as you mentioned, it's not about identifying""" start="00:07:03.898" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""people, it's just about identifying value, in a way, in the""" start="00:07:03.898" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""content that people share. It has nothing to do with""" start="00:07:03.898" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""verifying their actual identity. But again, it's the same""" start="00:07:12.024" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""technology, it's the same understanding, but for""" start="00:07:14.906" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""different applications, which is lovely because""" start="00:07:14.906" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""programming is fractals all over. The same problems repeat""" start="00:07:14.906" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""themselves and the same solutions show up for widely""" start="00:07:23.773" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""different scenarios, which is always good. Yeah. Anything""" start="00:07:23.773" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""else? One more thing. Yeah. One more thing is that I wanted to""" start="00:07:32.165" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""give some kudos to, um, some of the other projects that""" start="00:07:33.785" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""inspired the pure graph work. One of them is Adam Porter's or""" start="00:07:33.785" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""graph view, um, which is a, um, a tool for visualizing""" start="00:07:42.467" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""different nodes in an org file and how they link to one""" start="00:07:42.467" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""another. Um, he did. the pioneering work to figure out how to""" start="00:07:42.467" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""render interactive graphs with GraphViz. And so we worked""" start="00:08:00.814" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""together on it and kind of hacked down the last parts that""" start="00:08:09.120" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""weren't working correctly. And so this is inspired a lot.""" start="00:08:09.120" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The user interface is inspired a lot by Adam's work. And then""" start="00:08:19.347" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""also the idea of having people that you mark as blockers and""" start="00:08:22.389" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""block is inspired by another project called TrustNet by""" start="00:08:22.389" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Alex Cobbly. I can type in the link there. Alex, how do you""" start="00:08:31.189" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""spell it? Cobbly? Yeah, I'll type it in here. Thank you. And I""" start="00:08:38.410" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""think the link is cba.org slash TrustNet. I think that is it.""" start="00:08:46.292" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'm not totally sure. But yeah. Okay well that's very good""" start="00:08:53.233" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and thank you for giving credits to the inspiration because""" start="00:08:59.182" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""again nothing is done without context and it's always nice""" start="00:08:59.182" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""in the free software world to acknowledge people who have""" start="00:08:59.182" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""influenced us because it's very nice when people start""" start="00:08:59.182" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""contributing, maintaining software, publishing stuff""" start="00:08:59.182" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that they actually start collaborating with people who've""" start="00:08:59.182" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""inspired them which is a nice way to climb over the shoulders""" start="00:08:59.182" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""of giants which this community likes so much. All right,""" start="00:08:59.182" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""moving on to the next question. We are, we have about seven""" start="00:09:27.842" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""more minutes for questions, so we're still good. Second""" start="00:09:29.203" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""question, one use case for this sharing and building upon""" start="00:09:33.687" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""second brain, sorry, one use case for this is sharing and""" start="00:09:33.687" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""building upon second brains, i.e. Zettelkasten, that's""" start="00:09:33.687" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""denote or what I'm actually doing, but a blocker for me""" start="00:09:42.534" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""wanting to make one public is wanting to use a block list or""" start="00:09:42.534" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""whitelist so that I can make them Cautioning?""" start="00:09:42.534" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Quarantining? Containing. Yes, definitely containing.""" start="00:09:54.924" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Why did I go for quarantine rather than containing? I guess""" start="00:09:58.987" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""my brain went to a dark place from the 2020s. So I can make""" start="00:10:01.509" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""containing useful information for only me while also being""" start="00:10:06.493" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""useful in a public sense. Yes, I think your question is about""" start="00:10:06.493" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""how to keep some of the content of your Zettelkasten private""" start="00:10:15.920" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and only have certain parts of it be public. If your desire is""" start="00:10:24.226" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to only share certain files in your Zettelkasten, then you""" start="00:10:30.167" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""can use the hyperdrive mirror command that we demonstrated""" start="00:10:30.167" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""in the Emacs 2023 talk. In short,""" start="00:10:30.167" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It lets you specify either a regular expression that""" start="00:10:51.562" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""matches only some of the files that'll get uploaded from a""" start="00:10:51.562" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""directory of files on your machine. And only the files that""" start="00:10:51.562" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""match that regex will be put into the hyperdrive and shared""" start="00:11:03.045" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""with the world. But it doesn't have to be a regex. It could be a""" start="00:11:03.045" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""lambda. So it could match based on file size or modification""" start="00:11:10.728" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""time or really whatever you like. So I hope that answers your""" start="00:11:12.028" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""question. Great. And I personally, as someone who loves""" start="00:11:20.011" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""tinkering with my ELSP, I particularly like the ability to""" start="00:11:23.435" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""specify things with a lambda because it just opens up the""" start="00:11:23.435" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""ceiling of the possibilities with interactions between""" start="00:11:23.435" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""different parts of software. And, you know, As I have worked""" start="00:11:23.435" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""significantly in Orgrim, I could definitely see""" start="00:11:38.730" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""interactions with lambdas here to make sure that we can send""" start="00:11:38.730" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and share files based on the filter list that is""" start="00:11:38.730" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""incrementally added to thanks to those lambdas. So thanks""" start="00:11:38.730" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for this. One more thing I want to add about that is that the,""" start="00:11:53.022" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that same question of being able to upload only certain""" start="00:11:55.384" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""files while leaving others to, to be private. was something""" start="00:11:55.384" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that was inspired by Carl Voigt. I had an email thread with""" start="00:12:05.751" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""him in which he talked about how he uses his file tags project""" start="00:12:09.094" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to organize his files. And he'll put a public tag on the files""" start="00:12:09.094" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""in his org database that he wants to have be published to his""" start="00:12:20.886" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""website. And so you could very easily just set a regular""" start="00:12:20.886" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""expression matches that public tag and then all of the other""" start="00:12:30.939" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""files would be not shared. Yeah, and, oh, sorry, I was, I""" start="00:12:30.939" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""misclicked, I was talking to production for a second. First""" start="00:12:39.659" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""time it happens today, so I think this is a testament to the""" start="00:12:45.461" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""level of tightness. But yeah, as you were saying, whatever""" start="00:12:45.461" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""heuristics you want is actually a good thing. I think people""" start="00:12:49.022" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""are a little antsy because they tend to brain dump into their""" start="00:12:53.163" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Orgrimm, Zellcastan, Zellcastan slash e-note, and they""" start="00:12:53.163" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""really don't want some of their personal notes being out""" start="00:12:53.163" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""there. And well, if you are worried about this, I think""" start="00:12:53.163" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""learning some Elisp and implementing some Lambda function""" start="00:13:05.946" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that allows you to filter with intention might be the best""" start="00:13:05.946" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""solution for you. So I hope we've covered the question as""" start="00:13:05.946" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""well as we could have. Next question is more about an idea""" start="00:13:16.411" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""about trying hyperdrive to distribute the work. Does that""" start="00:13:22.073" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""make sense to you? Yeah, I mean, you could distribute""" start="00:13:27.336" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""whatever you wanted. I think that'd be a great idea. Okay,""" start="00:13:28.896" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""great. Moving to the next question, and we have about three""" start="00:13:34.881" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""minutes, so I think we'll cover the last two questions and""" start="00:13:36.962" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""we'll move on to the next talk after that. Could you comment""" start="00:13:36.962" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""on the visualization thing, org visualization, and your""" start="00:13:43.547" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""experience with this type of content in buffers and the""" start="00:13:43.547" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""various possibilities, SVG, et cetera?""" start="00:13:43.547" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Sure. So one thing that we worked on was I added a patch that""" start="00:13:55.515" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""was merged as part of Emacs 30, which fixes the way that image""" start="00:14:03.021" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""maps scale when images are scaled. So as an Emacs 30, if you""" start="00:14:03.021" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""zoom in on an image or shrink an image or rotate an image, now""" start="00:14:14.869" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the image map, which is the overlay, so it's not actually an""" start="00:14:14.869" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""overlay, but it's, so to speak, it's an overlay that allows""" start="00:14:14.869" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the images to be clickable based on, you know, where the""" start="00:14:29.540" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""actual visual display is. You can also click on it or hit help""" start="00:14:29.540" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""echo. And as of Emacs 30, now that scales with the image""" start="00:14:33.843" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""itself.""" start="00:14:36.986" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The code to make that work on previous versions of Emacs, you""" start="00:14:44.512" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""can see the advice that we added in HyperDrive SBB view that""" start="00:14:44.512" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""file in hyperdrive.el. If you're curious to see how you""" start="00:14:44.512" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""could polyfill that code, so to speak, to make it work on""" start="00:14:57.081" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""previous versions of Emacs before Emacs 30. But it works""" start="00:15:00.905" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""great. The way that this works is we generate a GraphViz""" start="00:15:08.191" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""string that will be sent to GraphViz to render an SVG and also""" start="00:15:09.091" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""render a CMAPX string. We pipe those back into Emacs and then""" start="00:15:09.091" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""we generate the image map from the CMAPX file and then we put""" start="00:15:23.042" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that image map with the SVG, and we render it in a buffer.""" start="00:15:31.436" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Works pretty well. You can check out the code to see exactly""" start="00:15:36.381" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""how it works. OK, great. Well, sadly, I think we are a little""" start="00:15:38.103" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""short on time to cover the last two questions. So Joseph, if""" start="00:15:42.821" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you want to take a little bit of time maybe to answer the""" start="00:15:46.243" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""questions in the BBB, you can just do this, even though the""" start="00:15:46.243" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""stream will be moving to the next talk. But I'll use the""" start="00:15:46.243" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""opportunity to thank you both for the talk and for your""" start="00:15:56.150" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""answers, because they were very insightful. And thank you""" start="00:15:56.150" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""so much for taking the time to be with us today. Thank you,""" start="00:16:02.554" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Leo. Enjoy the rest of the conference. Any last words in""" start="00:16:05.816" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""about 15 seconds? Thank you. I'm grateful for your taking""" start="00:16:07.878" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""all this time to make this conference possible. Well, you""" start="00:16:11.344" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""know, the conference would be nothing without the speakers""" start="00:16:16.107" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""coming and chatting, so you are the ones to thank. I mean, we""" start="00:16:16.107" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""like the thanking, obviously, but it's mostly you doing the""" start="00:16:21.751" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""work. All right. Thank you, Joseph. We'll see you later.""" start="00:16:21.751" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Bye-bye.""" start="00:16:29.017" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Okay, we are offline. So Joseph, if you wanna finish""" start="00:16:34.935" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""answering the two questions on your own, feel free to. And""" start="00:16:36.316" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""whenever you finish, just leave the room. It will stop""" start="00:16:39.738" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""without you having to do anything. Okay, thank you, Leo. No""" start="00:16:41.579" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""worries, bye-bye. Bye.""" start="00:16:47.582" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""All right, could I, let's see. I'll just answer these few""" start="00:16:52.925" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""questions and then type in some responses. What is""" start="00:16:56.047" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""something surprising about how you or somebody else that""" start="00:17:02.236" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you didn't expect from using the HyperDrive network?""" start="00:17:02.236" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I think the question is about something surprising from""" start="00:17:11.860" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""using the HyperDrive network.""" start="00:17:11.860" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Don't quite understand the question. I think the""" start="00:17:22.185" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""surprising use case for it is to be able to share say a bunch of""" start="00:17:24.046" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""org files link between those org files you could use""" start="00:17:31.973" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""transclusion to to have a discussion and then You could""" start="00:17:31.973" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""collaborate on on projects Using this sort of asynchronous""" start="00:17:31.973" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""communication using using hyperdrive files If there's a""" start="00:17:31.973" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""more specific question, I'm happy to answer it better You""" start="00:17:31.973" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""mentioned streaming audio and video. Could you confirm""" start="00:18:01.667" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that this is in reference to consumption of media and not""" start="00:18:03.308" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""broadcasting of it? So this is all shared on a peer-to-peer""" start="00:18:03.308" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""network. So if I have a file on my machine that's a video or""" start="00:18:08.909" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""audio and I'm advertising on the network that people can""" start="00:18:13.071" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""download it from me, then if you want to download that video""" start="00:18:13.071" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I have it, I have a copy of it, When you click on that video""" start="00:18:13.071" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""in your hyperdrive, not only does it download it from me, but""" start="00:18:29.301" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""also you can stream it so you don't have to download the whole""" start="00:18:29.301" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""thing before watching it. So it is both in terms of serving""" start="00:18:29.301" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the file and downloading the file.""" start="00:18:41.143" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So I'll stay in the big blue button room. as I type in these""" start="00:18:53.745" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""answers. And if anything else comes in, I'll answer it.""" start="00:18:59.048" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Hey there. Hey, so I think you're just waiting for me to come""" start="00:19:27.989" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""through and close out the recording and say thank you very""" start="00:19:30.302" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""much and goodbye. I believe the stream is now cut away to the""" start="00:19:30.302" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""next thing as of 10, as of 40 seconds ago or something. Sorry,""" start="00:19:37.889" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""it took me a minute to get over here. We had to coordinate for a""" start="00:19:46.416" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""second. No, it's all good. Thank you again. I'm just typing""" start="00:19:48.118" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""these answers into the pad. Hang on, I got too much""" start="00:19:53.883" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""crosstalk. Let me mute this other garment. I mean, these""" start="00:19:58.337" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""other fine people that all want my attention.""" start="00:20:02.258" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Thank you, Corwin. My nephew's name is Corwin. Oh, yeah,""" start="00:20:09.019" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""neat. It's a good name. I personally recommend it. Yeah, so I""" start="00:20:14.320" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""was just going to say you can actually go as long as you want""" start="00:20:18.400" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to. And then when everybody leaves, it'll kind of shut the""" start="00:20:18.400" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""room down. Like I didn't want to, and if you have like a, you""" start="00:20:24.402" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""should be able to like basically take the screen to or""" start="00:20:27.677" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""whatever, like control that. If you want to share anything""" start="00:20:27.677" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""yourself, if you can't let me know. Thank you. I think I'll""" start="00:20:36.504" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""just type in these answers. I think I can leave the room now,""" start="00:20:41.527" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but it's not a super. Oh, okay. Well, if you're shutting""" start="00:20:42.808" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""down, then I'll just go ahead and force shut down the room.""" start="00:20:45.870" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And thank you very much for any other questions you want to""" start="00:20:49.673" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""answer off the pad and everything like that. Okay. Thank""" start="00:20:49.673" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you, Corwin. Thanks again for your talk, Joseph. Bye. Bye.""" start="00:20:55.558" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""You are currently the only person in this conference.""" start="00:21:04.911" video="qanda-hyperdrive" id="subtitle"]]