# Transcript [[!template new="1" text="""Introduction""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Hello, fellow Emacs enthusiasts.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""My name is Edmund Jorgensen.""" start="00:00:05.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'm a software engineer by day,""" start="00:00:06.800" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but by night I love to write novels,""" start="00:00:08.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I lean on Emacs heavily""" start="00:00:10.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for both of these activities.""" start="00:00:11.774" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Today, I would like to talk to you about how Emacs,""" start="00:00:13.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""specifically with Org mode,""" start="00:00:15.880" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""has helped me manage some of the practical""" start="00:00:17.320" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""difficulties of writing long-form prose,""" start="00:00:18.840" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""novels in my case,""" start="00:00:20.940" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I'd like to get at this by talking about how""" start="00:00:22.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""another, much more famous novelist managed""" start="00:00:24.320" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""some of those same difficulties in a way""" start="00:00:26.440" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that makes me suspect he might well use Emacs""" start="00:00:28.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and Org mode himself""" start="00:00:30.874" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""if he were still alive and writing today.""" start="00:00:31.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""This talk will probably be""" start="00:00:34.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""of the most interest to listeners""" start="00:00:35.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""who either already write long-form prose in Emacs""" start="00:00:36.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or are considering doing so,""" start="00:00:39.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but I think that anyone""" start="00:00:40.880" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""with an interest in literature or Emacs""" start="00:00:42.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""will find something to take away.""" start="00:00:44.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template new="1" text="""Nabokov's process of writing novels""" start="00:00:45.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So let's get to it.""" start="00:00:45.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Here's a picture of a man lying on a bed,""" start="00:00:51.120" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""writing something on an index card.""" start="00:00:53.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""If we didn't know any better,""" start="00:00:56.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""we might think that he was just jotting down""" start="00:00:57.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""a recipe for beef stew or something like that.""" start="00:00:58.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But in fact, this is not just any old man.""" start="00:01:01.680" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""This is Vladimir Nabokov, one of the most""" start="00:01:03.840" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""celebrated novelists of the 20th century,""" start="00:01:06.174" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and he's not jotting down""" start="00:01:08.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""a recipe for beef stew in this picture.""" start="00:01:09.280" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""He's actually hard at work here,""" start="00:01:11.480" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""composing a classic of English literature""" start="00:01:12.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""on an index card.""" start="00:01:15.007" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""That's how he wrote all his novels, in fact,""" start="00:01:16.560" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""on index cards.""" start="00:01:18.800" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I don't mean that he just took notes on these cards""" start="00:01:20.160" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or wrote outlines on them.""" start="00:01:22.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""He did both of those things as well,""" start="00:01:24.160" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but he also wrote the actual prose of his novels,""" start="00:01:25.680" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""word by word, sentence by sentence, on index cards.""" start="00:01:28.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Let's see what that looked like at scale.""" start="00:01:32.800" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""This box you see here,""" start="00:01:37.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""full of groups of bundled cards,""" start="00:01:39.440" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is what a novel in progress looked like for Nabokov.""" start="00:01:41.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""If you squint, you can see that these cards""" start="00:01:43.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""were from the composition of Lolita,""" start="00:01:46.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""probably his most famous novel.""" start="00:01:47.640" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So why did he write novels on index cards?""" start="00:01:50.560" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It's not necessarily an obvious choice.""" start="00:01:53.720" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Yes, sadly, Emacs wasn't available to him at the time,""" start="00:01:56.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but most writers in his day,""" start="00:01:59.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""if they weren't using typewriters,""" start="00:02:01.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which were available,""" start="00:02:02.640" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""were using notebooks or loose-leaf sheets""" start="00:02:03.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or something like that.""" start="00:02:06.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Not these tiny little index cards.""" start="00:02:07.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But Nabokov loved index cards.""" start="00:02:09.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""He swore by them because they represented""" start="00:02:11.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""an elegant solution""" start="00:02:14.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to three of the most pressing practical problems""" start="00:02:15.200" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that every novelist faces.""" start="00:02:18.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template new="1" text="""Three practical problems novelists face""" start="00:02:24.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Writing a good novel""" start="00:02:24.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is artistically difficult, of course.""" start="00:02:25.307" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""You have to write something interesting""" start="00:02:27.480" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""with a good story,""" start="00:02:28.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""something that people want to read.""" start="00:02:30.107" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But writing any novel at all,""" start="00:02:31.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""whether it's good or bad,""" start="00:02:33.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is brutally, practically difficult.""" start="00:02:35.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""You're hacking something like 100,000 words""" start="00:02:37.720" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""into unified shape over a long period of time,""" start="00:02:39.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""months or years.""" start="00:02:42.440" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""There are organizational challenges""" start="00:02:43.800" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""inherent in that process,""" start="00:02:45.720" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and each writer needs practical techniques""" start="00:02:46.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to manage those challenges.""" start="00:02:48.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The most basic challenge, of course, is that,""" start="00:02:51.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""unless you're trying to bring back""" start="00:02:53.400" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the Homeric Bard tradition""" start="00:02:55.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""of reciting books from memory in firelit halls,""" start="00:02:57.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you need to actually set down""" start="00:02:59.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""those 100,000 words on some medium.""" start="00:03:01.200" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""In Nabokov's case, index cards worked fine for this.""" start="00:03:03.320" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""A little cramped, maybe, but workable.""" start="00:03:05.840" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Secondly, as you're writing,""" start="00:03:08.440" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you're bound to think of little but important things""" start="00:03:09.680" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""about the story that you want to record.""" start="00:03:11.720" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'm not talking here about big thematic notes""" start="00:03:13.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or research that can go in a separate document,""" start="00:03:16.207" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but smaller, more contextual notes""" start="00:03:19.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that belong right along the prose that they refer to.""" start="00:03:21.160" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""These might be reminders, like,""" start="00:03:23.880" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text=""""Remember to clean up this sentence,"""" start="00:03:26.640" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or questions for yourself""" start="00:03:28.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to consider during rewrites, like,""" start="00:03:29.707" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text=""""Why does Shirley feel this way here?"""" start="00:03:31.907" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Nabokov recorded these notes""" start="00:03:33.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""in the margins of his cards or on the backs.""" start="00:03:35.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Paper, in general, is great for this kind of""" start="00:03:37.560" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""intertextual note-taking.""" start="00:03:40.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""That's not particular to index cards.""" start="00:03:41.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But what Nabokov really loved about index cards""" start="00:03:44.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""was how they solved the novelist's""" start="00:03:47.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""third and most difficult practical problem,""" start="00:03:49.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which is imposing some kind of structure""" start="00:03:52.120" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""on this mountain of words.""" start="00:03:54.280" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""To have any hope of wrangling a novel into being,""" start="00:03:55.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you need some way to break it down""" start="00:03:58.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""into parts, chapters, scenes, snatches of dialogue.""" start="00:04:00.120" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""You need some kind of higher-level outline""" start="00:04:03.640" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that you can read, navigate, and rearrange""" start="00:04:05.840" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""as you consider and reconsider your story.""" start="00:04:08.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""You need structure.""" start="00:04:09.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Index cards gave Nabokov a really powerful way""" start="00:04:11.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to impose this structure""" start="00:04:14.880" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""because they created small, independent""" start="00:04:16.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""chunks of prose""" start="00:04:18.560" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that he could bundle together into groups,""" start="00:04:19.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""like we saw in the box.""" start="00:04:21.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""This let him navigate his novel in progress quickly.""" start="00:04:22.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""He could just flip through those bundles,""" start="00:04:31.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""bundle by bundle, instead of card by card.""" start="00:04:33.800" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""He could also impose on""" start="00:04:36.120" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and modify the structure of his novel""" start="00:04:38.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""just by shuffling those bundles around.""" start="00:04:40.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So that's why Nabokov loved index cards""" start="00:04:42.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for writing novels.""" start="00:04:45.307" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template new="1" text="""Org mode for writing novels""" start="00:04:46.560" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Now I'd love to talk about""" start="00:04:46.560" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""why I love Org mode so much for writing novels""" start="00:04:48.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and how it helps me tackle those same challenges.""" start="00:04:51.280" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The first practical challenge,""" start="00:04:54.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""recording your words on some medium,""" start="00:05:01.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is pretty simple.""" start="00:05:03.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Org mode is a part of Emacs,""" start="00:05:04.774" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""a text editor, so you can just type in your text.""" start="00:05:06.440" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""We're not going to spend any more time on that.""" start="00:05:09.200" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""For the second practical challenge,""" start="00:05:10.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""recording small intertextual notes,""" start="00:05:13.440" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Org mode offers comments, like this one here.""" start="00:05:16.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The comment, "maybe I need to say which store?",""" start="00:05:19.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""with the leading pound sign there.""" start="00:05:21.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I think that comments are generally""" start="00:05:23.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""underappreciated outside of coding.""" start="00:05:25.874" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""When writing fiction, for example,""" start="00:05:28.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I love that Org mode lets me keep these comments""" start="00:05:29.800" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""close to the prose they refer to.""" start="00:05:32.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I can see right here that I'm talking about""" start="00:05:33.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""saying which store in this first line,""" start="00:05:37.160" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text=""""One day, Bob went to the store."""" start="00:05:39.120" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I get to keep these things close to""" start="00:05:40.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the prose they refer to""" start="00:05:44.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""without ever having to worry that""" start="00:05:45.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""they'll accidentally be exported to a reader.""" start="00:05:46.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""That's great.""" start="00:05:48.480" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So let's talk about how Org Mode handles the third""" start="00:05:50.540" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and most brutal challenge of all, which is structure.""" start="00:05:52.807" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Here we've taken the same text""" start="00:06:00.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and we've imposed some structure on it.""" start="00:06:03.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Like index cards,""" start="00:06:04.880" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""this is where Org mode really shines.""" start="00:06:07.807" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Org mode extends outline mode,""" start="00:06:09.640" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which is built around the concept of header lines,""" start="00:06:12.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""with different levels denoted by""" start="00:06:14.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""different numbers of leading asterisks (`*`).""" start="00:06:15.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Personally, I tend to use top line headers""" start="00:06:18.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""as chapters and second line headers as scenes.""" start="00:06:20.974" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""You can see that here, where chapter one says""" start="00:06:23.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text=""""Bob and Shirley meet."""" start="00:06:26.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Here's a scene, "Bob goes to the store."""" start="00:06:27.320" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And here below is chapter two, yet unwritten,""" start="00:06:29.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""where Bob goes to work.""" start="00:06:32.640" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Pretty exciting. Since Org mode supports folding,""" start="00:06:34.320" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I can read quickly through a summary of my novel""" start="00:06:39.680" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""at either the chapter or the scene level""" start="00:06:42.160" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""just by flipping through different levels of""" start="00:06:44.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""visibility, just like Nabokov could flip through""" start="00:06:46.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""different bundles of cards.""" start="00:06:48.800" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So here's the chapter level.""" start="00:06:51.307" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I can see at a chapter level,""" start="00:06:52.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text=""""Bob and Shirley meet", "Bob goes to work."""" start="00:06:54.720" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And then I can get one level more specific""" start="00:06:56.680" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and see the various scenes in the chapter""" start="00:06:59.080" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""at the second header level.""" start="00:07:01.160" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And I can, if I want,""" start="00:07:02.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I can go all the way back to the prose level.""" start="00:07:04.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And just like Nabokov shuffling""" start="00:07:10.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""his index cards around,""" start="00:07:12.774" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I can move scenes around as logical units.""" start="00:07:14.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Let's say, for example,""" start="00:07:16.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that we wanted to move Bob's thoughts about life,""" start="00:07:18.200" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which are down here, up further.""" start="00:07:20.400" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Well, I can grab "Bob thinks about life,"""" start="00:07:22.920" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I can move it up or down as a logical unit.""" start="00:07:26.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But Org mode offers some even more powerful tricks""" start="00:07:30.480" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for structuring and navigating your novel,""" start="00:07:34.720" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""beyond what even index cards can do.""" start="00:07:36.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""For example, you can use tags""" start="00:07:38.560" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""on your scene headings. You can see these here.""" start="00:07:41.974" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""They're the prominent colon separated words""" start="00:07:44.480" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""on the header lines.""" start="00:07:46.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""In this case, I'm using `bob` and `shirley`.""" start="00:07:47.560" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""These tags can represent characters""" start="00:07:49.840" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""who appear in the scene,""" start="00:07:52.720" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which is what I'm doing here,""" start="00:07:53.674" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or locations in which the scenes occur,""" start="00:07:54.640" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or plot lines that the scenes further,""" start="00:07:57.207" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""really anything that you want.""" start="00:07:59.160" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And you can then use Org mode's sparse view features""" start="00:08:00.480" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to query a set of tags and trim your novel down to""" start="00:08:04.240" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""a subset of related scenes.""" start="00:08:07.560" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""For example, let's say we want to filter down to""" start="00:08:09.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""only the scenes in which Shirley appears.""" start="00:08:12.560" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""This could allow us to read quickly through""" start="00:08:14.800" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""just a subset of the prose,""" start="00:08:25.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the prose that referred to Shirley in some way.""" start="00:08:27.440" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Maybe we want to do that""" start="00:08:29.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to check continuity for her character,""" start="00:08:31.360" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or make sure that her character develops""" start="00:08:33.280" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""along a compelling arc,""" start="00:08:35.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or even just to get a sense""" start="00:08:37.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""of how much airtime she gets in the novel.""" start="00:08:38.320" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Thanks for listening to this whirlwind exploration""" start="00:08:44.040" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""of some of the practical challenges of writing""" start="00:08:49.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""novels and other long-form prose,""" start="00:08:51.880" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and how Org mode can help tackle them.""" start="00:08:53.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template new="1" text="""Takeaways and next steps""" start="00:08:55.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'd like to leave you with a couple takeaways""" start="00:08:55.600" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and next steps for those who are interested.""" start="00:08:57.880" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""First, if you're writing a novel""" start="00:08:59.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or other long-form prose,""" start="00:09:01.907" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or even considering doing so,""" start="00:09:02.841" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""take a look at Org mode,""" start="00:09:04.874" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""especially if you're already familiar with Emacs.""" start="00:09:06.108" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It won't solve the artistic problem""" start="00:09:08.375" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""of writing an interesting book for you,""" start="00:09:10.475" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""not even with a ChatGPT plugin,""" start="00:09:11.875" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but it's a fantastic tool for managing""" start="00:09:13.908" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""some of the practical challenges""" start="00:09:15.875" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that come with hacking 100,000 words into shape""" start="00:09:16.875" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""over the months or years that that process takes.""" start="00:09:19.841" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Second, if you're interested in learning more""" start="00:09:22.741" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""about some of the advanced features of Org mode""" start="00:09:25.840" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and how they can help in this process,""" start="00:09:27.960" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I wrote a long blog post about my difficulties""" start="00:09:29.520" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""writing a novel with 13 interconnected subplots,""" start="00:09:32.320" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and how Emacs and Org mode saved it from imploding.""" start="00:09:34.880" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'll put a link here below. [ewj.io/emacs]""" start="00:09:37.760" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Thanks for listening, and Emacs on!""" start="00:09:44.000" video="mainVideo-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] Captioner: bhavin192 # Q&A transcript (unedited) [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: About 3""" start="00:00:03.560" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""seconds. And I believe we are live.""" start="00:00:16.020" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Hi Edmund, how are you doing?""" start="00:00:17.280" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Hi, how's it going Leo?""" start="00:00:19.240" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'm doing well, thanks.""" start="00:00:20.279" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Yourself?""" start="00:00:20.560" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: I'm also doing well. So Edmund doesn't have""" start="00:00:24.480" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""his webcam on but he will be able to answer""" start="00:00:26.980" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""questions that you ask inside of the Azure""" start="00:00:29.960" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""pad that I've shared again on IRC.""" start="00:00:32.159" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""By the way, we only have 1 question and we""" start="00:00:35.440" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""have about 40 minutes of question time,""" start="00:00:37.120" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""so feel free to add as many questions as you""" start="00:00:40.380" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""want and in the meantime,""" start="00:00:41.940" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""we'll get started on the first 1.""" start="00:00:43.380" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Unless, Edmond, do you have anything to say""" start="00:00:45.020" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""after your presentation?""" start="00:00:45.920" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: No, we can jump in.""" start="00:00:48.280" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Okay, lovely. So first question,""" start="00:00:51.560" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is the index, sorry, does the index really""" start="00:00:54.940" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""matter here? I mean his colleague is also""" start="00:00:57.840" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""using some A4 paper and you think that the""" start="00:01:00.380" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""index card is the most important thing here?""" start="00:01:02.400" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: That's a great question.""" start="00:01:04.540" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I mean, I think you can do anything with a""" start="00:01:08.000" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""larger piece of paper that you can do with a""" start="00:01:09.520" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""smaller piece of paper.""" start="00:01:10.240" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But I actually encourage you to try this out.""" start="00:01:12.280" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I did, not for research for this talk,""" start="00:01:14.820" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but just when I read about Nabokov and his""" start="00:01:17.040" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""index cards to begin with,""" start="00:01:18.160" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I kind of tried it out a little bit and wrote""" start="00:01:20.380" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""some shorter things on index cards and so on""" start="00:01:22.480" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and there really is something about the size""" start="00:01:24.640" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and the kind of ability to manipulate them.""" start="00:01:27.940" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""You really can bundle them and move them""" start="00:01:30.200" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""around easier and I think that that I think""" start="00:01:33.420" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""he enjoyed that. So sure I mean I think you""" start="00:01:35.800" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""can do anything with a4 paper that you could""" start="00:01:37.540" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""do with index cards but I think there's""" start="00:01:38.860" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""something about that form that lends itself""" start="00:01:40.760" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to the especially to the reorganization maybe""" start="00:01:43.840" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to the focus as well just because it's""" start="00:01:45.540" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""smaller but but definitely to the""" start="00:01:47.060" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""reorganization.""" start="00:01:47.220" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Definitely So we have a lot more questions""" start="00:01:53.600" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""now. So thank you, everyone,""" start="00:01:54.640" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for answering my plea for more questions.""" start="00:01:56.479" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Next question. How do you explore the second""" start="00:01:59.760" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""level headings, i.e. The scenes in this""" start="00:02:01.880" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""example, without the heading itself,""" start="00:02:03.600" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""just the content? Is that clear enough?""" start="00:02:05.740" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Great question. Yeah, so I've tried 2 ways,""" start="00:02:09.240" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""sorry, 3 ways with this and landed on 1 that""" start="00:02:13.280" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I like. Originally I used the OX package.""" start="00:02:16.080" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""There's an OX ignore thing in there where you""" start="00:02:20.080" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""can add an ignore tag to where you don't want""" start="00:02:23.240" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the headings, but you do want the content""" start="00:02:24.720" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""exported. I found that a little bit annoying,""" start="00:02:26.920" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""just visually annoying,""" start="00:02:27.940" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""when I'm, again, My theme here is navigating""" start="00:02:31.320" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""100,000 word documents effectively and having""" start="00:02:34.840" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that extra visual noise was kind of a pain.""" start="00:02:36.900" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So I ended up, first I just did like a dumb""" start="00:02:40.520" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""ox script as part of my publication kind of""" start="00:02:43.040" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""pipeline that removed headlines at the scene""" start="00:02:47.720" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""level. And then actually,""" start="00:02:48.940" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""because I ended up leaning so heavily on""" start="00:02:50.980" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Pandoc, and Pandoc, for those of you who have""" start="00:02:53.680" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""not looked at recent versions of Pandoc,""" start="00:02:56.200" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""they've got a really fantastic way to use Lua""" start="00:03:00.920" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""at this point to write filters.""" start="00:03:02.420" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So you can kind of take the AST of your""" start="00:03:04.940" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""document and run these very simple Lua""" start="00:03:07.120" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""filters over it. They used to be in Haskell,""" start="00:03:09.140" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which I'm not smart enough to write Haskell""" start="00:03:11.780" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is 1 of the things that I've discovered.""" start="00:03:13.140" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I keep bouncing off of it,""" start="00:03:14.440" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but I'm just smart enough to write Lua.""" start="00:03:16.360" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And so I use a Lua filter now,""" start="00:03:19.480" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which I'm happy to publish to anyone who's""" start="00:03:21.180" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""interested. That basically lets me say,""" start="00:03:22.880" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you know, what level headings to get rid of""" start="00:03:27.440" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the heading, but publish the content.""" start="00:03:28.740" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And part of the reason that's been useful is""" start="00:03:30.320" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that some of the other novels I'm working on""" start="00:03:31.920" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for example have different levels of""" start="00:03:33.540" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""hierarchy where maybe there's a part and then""" start="00:03:35.640" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you know at the top level and then chapter""" start="00:03:37.260" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and then scene and it's now the third level""" start="00:03:39.160" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""instead of the second and it's much easier in""" start="00:03:41.400" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the Lua to just be like remove the third""" start="00:03:43.840" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""level headings or the second level headings""" start="00:03:45.400" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or whatever it is so that's been that's been""" start="00:03:47.680" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""helpful.""" start="00:03:47.860" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Great, Moving on to the next question,""" start="00:03:53.040" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""slightly off topic, where can we see your""" start="00:03:58.120" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""novels?""" start="00:03:58.260" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Oh well yeah, you can,""" start="00:04:01.060" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""they're on Amazon, there's 2 of them and a""" start="00:04:05.500" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""book of short stories.""" start="00:04:06.160" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I think the short stories and the second""" start="00:04:10.120" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""novel, which is called World Enough in Time,""" start="00:04:11.960" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which is the 1 that kind of prompted this""" start="00:04:13.940" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""talk, are probably of more interest to this,""" start="00:04:16.160" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to the Emacs focused group.""" start="00:04:18.320" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The first one's like a philosophical murder""" start="00:04:20.380" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""mystery, but the World Enough in Time is a""" start="00:04:25.240" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""kind of Douglas Adams inspired sci-fi comedy""" start="00:04:29.820" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""about kind of hijinks on a relativistic speed""" start="00:04:34.440" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""space cruiser, which was a lot of fun to""" start="00:04:37.360" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""write. It has a lot of twisty subplots,""" start="00:04:38.980" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which is where I developed that technique of""" start="00:04:42.500" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""being able to filter down to tags and see a""" start="00:04:46.560" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""reduced version of the novel,""" start="00:04:47.840" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which was very handy when trying to juggle 13""" start="00:04:51.560" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""subplots. So yeah, check it out.""" start="00:04:53.520" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Great, we'll make sure that you have the""" start="00:04:57.240" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""links available on the talk page afterwards.""" start="00:04:59.860" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Right now I sadly have to host so I cannot""" start="00:05:03.420" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""look up the links but we'll make sure or if""" start="00:05:05.680" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: I put it in there for you.""" start="00:05:08.100" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: anyone in the chat... Oh you did?""" start="00:05:09.020" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Yeah. In the meantime we'll move on to the""" start="00:05:13.800" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""next question. Have you looked at the Denote""" start="00:05:16.560" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""signature features? The hierarchical nature""" start="00:05:19.700" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""of Lumen's ideas and index cards works well""" start="00:05:23.180" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""with Denote signatures.""" start="00:05:24.100" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So are you familiar with Denote first?""" start="00:05:26.120" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: I am not. No, it sounds like something that I""" start="00:05:28.740" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""should check out.""" start="00:05:29.240" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Yeah, Denote is a way to work with slip""" start="00:05:33.080" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""boxes. We talked a little bit about it""" start="00:05:35.460" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""earlier today. We talked about Orgroam,""" start="00:05:37.240" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""we talked about Denote as well as a lighter""" start="00:05:40.600" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""alternative to Orgroam.""" start="00:05:41.580" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And yeah, the organization with index cards""" start="00:05:45.520" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""feels like it's something that would highly""" start="00:05:47.360" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""benefit from linking and back links and any""" start="00:05:50.740" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""kind of UX functionality for relating pieces""" start="00:05:53.880" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""of information. So yeah,""" start="00:05:56.680" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""definitely look it up.""" start="00:05:57.620" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah, I'm a heavy org-roam user.""" start="00:06:00.040" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I use org-roam for a lot of different stuff""" start="00:06:03.280" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I would love, I will definitely check out""" start="00:06:05.740" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Denote as an alternative.""" start="00:06:06.740" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Sure, I'm not particularly personally""" start="00:06:09.520" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""familiar with what Signature is within Denote""" start="00:06:11.720" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and it'd be great if the person who asked the""" start="00:06:13.940" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""question could perhaps provide more details""" start="00:06:15.580" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""so that Edmund could get a little more""" start="00:06:17.980" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""information when he returns to the document.""" start="00:06:20.000" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But yeah, if you're using Org-ROM,""" start="00:06:21.480" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you're already within the mindset that you""" start="00:06:25.140" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""need, and perhaps you'd gain a little bit""" start="00:06:27.180" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""extra stuff from using Dino's signature,""" start="00:06:29.260" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I assume. We have 8 minutes.""" start="00:06:32.920" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""We're still good on time.""" start="00:06:34.040" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Next question, do you have a workflow""" start="00:06:36.500" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""combining handwritten index cards and org""" start="00:06:39.020" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""mode?""" start="00:06:39.360" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Great question. I do not.""" start="00:06:42.400" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I do write by hand when I get,""" start="00:06:46.620" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I don't know what a good term for it is,""" start="00:06:49.120" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'll call it like editorial paralysis or""" start="00:06:51.420" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""something when I find it very hard to move""" start="00:06:53.100" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""forward in something because I keep going""" start="00:06:54.720" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""back and tweaking. And I will handwrite stuff""" start="00:06:56.940" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""at that point and then type it in because""" start="00:06:58.520" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""it's so much harder to get stuck in editing""" start="00:07:02.120" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""mode when you have to move forward on the""" start="00:07:04.480" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""page. I don't use index cards.""" start="00:07:07.360" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""In the blog article that I link in my talk,""" start="00:07:11.680" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the ewj.io slash emacs 1,""" start="00:07:14.400" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I did try using handwritten or spreadsheet""" start="00:07:18.240" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""outlines at 1 point and found them very,""" start="00:07:22.360" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""very clumsy for novel writing just because I""" start="00:07:27.640" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""do so much, I mean, I do so much revision""" start="00:07:29.820" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that moving things around meant that I had to""" start="00:07:32.600" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""keep 2 things in sync with each other,""" start="00:07:34.480" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the pros and the outline.""" start="00:07:35.440" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And that was what really led me to Org Mode""" start="00:07:37.540" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""as a way to keep the, again,""" start="00:07:39.800" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I think part of the key for me is keeping the""" start="00:07:42.040" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""outline and the pros right next to each other""" start="00:07:44.580" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""in a way that they move around which is just""" start="00:07:46.440" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""really, I don't know, for me really really""" start="00:07:48.800" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""powerful.""" start="00:07:49.000" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Okay great, so we finished the list of""" start="00:07:54.280" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""questions available on the pad,""" start="00:07:55.840" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but I see that some people have joined us on""" start="00:07:58.260" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""BBB, so hi everyone. If you have any""" start="00:08:01.100" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""questions feel free to unmute yourself and""" start="00:08:03.340" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""ask them. Otherwise, we might go on a break.""" start="00:08:06.560" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So I'm going to give you about 10 seconds to""" start="00:08:08.360" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""unmute yourself. Or if you just want to add""" start="00:08:14.480" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""more questions on the pad,""" start="00:08:15.660" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that's also fine. And that'll give you about""" start="00:08:17.680" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""30 seconds. Otherwise,""" start="00:08:19.540" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""we'll need to go on a break.""" start="00:08:20.660" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And in the meantime, I'll thank you,""" start="00:08:24.020" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Edmund, for your presentation,""" start="00:08:25.600" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""because it's always nice,""" start="00:08:27.880" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you know, we The reason why we have 2 tracks,""" start="00:08:31.400" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and we've been having 2 tracks for the last 2""" start="00:08:34.200" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or 3 editions of EmacsConf is because it's""" start="00:08:36.039" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""really nice to have those talks which are""" start="00:08:38.799" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""still related to Emacs and to far distance""" start="00:08:43.500" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""developments because we are obviously using""" start="00:08:45.440" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""packages. But it's really nice to see when we""" start="00:08:48.160" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""foray into other areas like writing or any""" start="00:08:51.960" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""kind of academia-based topics.""" start="00:08:53.400" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So thank you, it's really nice.""" start="00:08:55.440" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It brings different colors to the spectrum of""" start="00:09:01.500" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""what EmacsConf is and what ultimately Emacs""" start="00:09:03.580" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is as well. Thank you.""" start="00:09:04.680" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Well thanks to everyone who tuned in and Leo""" start="00:09:06.960" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""thanks to you and all the other organizers""" start="00:09:08.160" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for putting this together.""" start="00:09:09.060" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Appreciate it.""" start="00:09:09.720" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Thank you. All right I think we're going to""" start="00:09:12.720" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""go on a little break for 5 minutes because I""" start="00:09:14.380" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""don't see other questions being asked.""" start="00:09:16.060" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So everyone we'll see you again in 5 minutes""" start="00:09:18.900" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and thank you again, Edmund.""" start="00:09:19.900" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Cheers.""" start="00:09:20.720" video="qanda-nabokov" id="subtitle"]] Questions or comments? Please e-mail [ewj@inkwellandoften.com](mailto:ewj@inkwellandoften.com?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20nabokov%3A%20Why%20Nabokov%20would%20use%20Org-Mode%20if%20he%20were%20writing%20today)