[Speaker 0]: All right, I've started the recording,
so Sasha, you don't need to worry about this.
Hi Jeremy, how are you doing?
[Speaker 1]: I'm doing great, how about you?
[Speaker 0]: I am also doing great,
I am feeling replenished after this lunch
break and I am happy to go back for 4 more
[Speaker 1]: Me too. Let me
[Speaker 0]: hours of conferences. just,
yeah great, Let me just put up the questions.
So Jeremy is going to read the questions and
answer them and I will be doing jazz hands in
the background or provide any bits of
information I may, considering that Orgrim
has been mentioned during the presentation
and everyone's going to want to ask me.
at... Show me? Yeah, go.
[Speaker 1]: So I'm looking I'm looking at the,
do you think the line numbers for writing
documents is kind of a distraction,
especially for notes? No,
I do software development and that left
fringe is kind of invisible,
but I do like to use jump to line.
So I just bind that to control L and it's
helpful to just see that.
So no, I haven't noticed that.
There are other ways to jump around in Emacs,
but I like to have many different ways.
So, yeah. Then how do you manage private and
public data with your Zettelkasten?
1 of my blockers on putting my Zettelkasten
on the web is I don't want everything to be
public, especially fleeting notes.
So 1 thing is I only explicitly export a file
to Hugo and I have that,
I can like, I can export this.
That doesn't show up very well.
So it's export probably export org to take on
rules and we'll export the buffer.
And then any that I referenced,
like these are all links,
any notes that are not public will be
exported as the text, but there won't be a
link to it. So it's having the very
deliberate, this is going up.
And so I send it over into Hugo,
which is its own repository,
and either massage it there or whatnot.
Is that any further questions on that 1?
[Speaker 0]: I don't think so.
[Speaker 1]: Is there anything special you're using from
org to Hugo markdown? This looks like a
really nice setup. I like to give it a try.
Yes, there I have a bespoke build process.
Having started in WordPress,
working through Jekyll,
going to Hugo, and then switching from
Markdown to org mode, I've backed into this
private public Zettelkasten,
which is really nice. And I have added quite
a bit of code. There's my dog.
[Speaker 0]: blogging.
[Speaker 1]: In my So I have, how do I export like side
notes because I want I have marginalia
instead of like the footnotes,
but I still use org mode footnotes.
And so I've got a bunch of these things and
this is all available up on GitHub And I'll
provide a link in the document.
Yeah, so there's quite a bit of making the
export work how I want it.
And I've been kind of fiddling with also
improving like LaTeX or PDF export.
So yeah, I have a long running to do item to
fully lay out my bespoke build process.
Because once it gets to Hugo,
there's also additional work that I do to
compile what is kind of a personal,
like a digital garden-ish,
it's really a blog focused 1.
So yeah, it's at Jeremy F on GitHub at dot
Emacs. And you'll be looking for JF
blogging.l that has some of this.
Also jforgmode.l will have some of that.
Yeah, I wanna circle back to that,
anything to prevent private links from
getting accidentally being made publicly
accessible. Yes. So previous to using denote,
I also used org-roam. So I have this idea of
a node in org-roam has roam refs.
And org-roam is much more robust about that.
So anytime you mention a ref,
it will count it as a backlink.
So for example, if my node was my blog,
take on rules, anytime,
anywhere in my org Rome repository,
I mentioned takeonrules.com,
it would treat it as a backlink.
So from that Rome refs,
I have a, I will interrogate,
and this is not the function for I will look
at the node to see does it have a Rome ref
and if it does I will treat it as a public
link. So I don't I haven't bled out any
private information because again going back
to I only publish a document and the document
I'm explicitly doing so and then my process
filters out any links that do not have public
URLs. It will just dump it in there as maybe
a span with a ref class of it so that I can
kind of know that that came from there.
Yes, So the font I am using is,
so this is another font.
What font were you using in EWW?
I think I'm using IOS Becca and ET Bembo.
[Speaker 0]: Okay, show me your EWW.
If we are doing full ricing setup,
I can recognize Yosefka just by looking at
it.
[Speaker 1]: So let's... Yeah, so yeah,
ET Bembo, I'm using these 2 fonts as kind of
my anchor. So the variable pitch is ETBembo.
My blog started off with a Tufta style CSS
and I really pared it down and got rid of any
of the additional fonts because they can be
used as trackers. And I'm like,
nope, you decide what font you want for your
browser. I don't need to tell you what looks
good for you. Yeah, so the story of Take On
Rules, I have to thank my partner and lovely
wife for that. She kind of nudged me to do
some blogging, and we spent some time
thinking about it. And originally,
it started off as writing about rules for
role-playing games or tabletop games.
And it has extended far beyond that.
The blog, as I've shifted,
as I think I mentioned in the presentation,
as I've shifted towards an everything and
nothing approach, the blog is anything I want
to write about anymore.
There's haikus up there with some regularity.
So the name is now a relic of a past.
So yeah, the thing and nothing is,
and I put that in the about on my blog.
So it's, I highly encourage like,
I feel great. Once I like said,
oh, I don't have to write this towards a
topical blog post or like what the topic is,
it freed it up. And I know that it comes at a
potential compromise because it's very much
me being a voice up there instead of
something that is curated and filtered
through a specific channel like I could have
a technical blog but I decided I'm just gonna
tag it as programming or emacs and let you
find it and you can subscribe to the rss
feeds of each tag that you find applicable
[Speaker 0]: right thank you so we are we are at the last
question on the pad but I see that some
people have joined us on the blue button.
So, hi everyone! We have about 6 minutes
until we need to go to the next talk,
but if anyone has a question on the blue
button, I'm thinking about James who's joined
us and who was kind enough to drop a thank
you line on the blue button.
Do you want to unmute yourself and ask a
question maybe? I'm not putting pressure by
the way, I don't feel like you need to but it
just... I speak all the time otherwise I'm
very happy to spend time with our speakers
you know but you know EmacsConf it's about,
as Sasha told you during the intro,
it's about making people take things,
brilliant things out of their mind and put
them outside in the public.
And for us, you know, we get to see the talk
evolve, we talk with people.
So for us we are already quite cognizant of
the topic and the point is not for us hosts
to ask questions, it's mostly for you to ask
questions and then we worry about all the
fancy stuff in the background.
Otherwise you damn well know I will ask
questions about org-roam,
about links, and nodes in general,
because that's my bread and butter.
[Speaker 1]: Yeah, I should add, like,
the process of migrating the data from a
WordPress export to markdown to org mode by
way of Pandoc was, it was really insightful
to help me understand how I want the data to
flow and how I could create a repository for
me of information and 1 that I could then
send out into the world,
the public information,
while not having to worry about the private
things that I might want to keep.
So it was that process of just working
through it to reflect on how I'm writing and
what I started using writing for.
I think Richard Feynman said,
no, writing is my thinking.
What I wrote is thinking.
So it has helped to really frame that.
[Speaker 0]: Yeah, I mean, there's an interesting
ambivalent relationship because it feels like
writing helps thinking and thinking helps
writing in a way and nowhere have I
personally been more aware of this than when
coming up with networks of notes because it
really I mean you use whichever word you want
you know a second brain a collection of notes
a slip box a repository of notes whichever
the tool you use the point at the end is to
resonate with you. It's kind of like
extending those moments of consciousness that
you have when you take your notes,
and you make the entire gradient available.
Sorry, I heard Sasha whispering in my ear
sometimes. It's pretty pleasant.
It's really shocking.
[Speaker 1]: Yeah, Aaron, you had a question.
Do I use denote just for my blogs or do I use
it for other purposes?
I use denote for all of my note taking and
almost, I think it's exclusively org mode
that I, that I use it in.
But what I really appreciated in the
consideration that Proc put forward was the
file name encodes the information that's
relevant. So it has helped me be able to
query by using things like ripgrep,
well not ripgrep, tree or I forget any more
what I use. But having that the file encodes
useful information. And it's so much more
relevant when I look at having worked at a
university that rolled out Google Drive to
everyone without any guidance on how to
organize stuff. And I worked at a library and
it was just a nightmare watching things show
up where you could never find it again.
So, file name, the file name having the date,
having the title and having tags just made so
much sense to be findable.
And yeah, I really do just use org.
But if I am going to make txt files or other
files, I have started adopting that structure
and format.
[Speaker 0]: Right. Well, Jeremy, we have about 1 minute
and 30 seconds left until we go on to the
next talk. Do you have any final words
regarding your presentation or maybe where
people can find you? I know you've already
mentioned this but...
[Speaker 1]: Yeah, take on rules. I'm also on dice camp
dice.campmastodon at take on rules and I've
thought about emacs.h but we federate well So
I appreciate that. And I can stay on and
answer any further questions if folks have
it.
[Speaker 0]: Sure. So sorry. Sorry,
I confused myself with the buttons talking to
production and all. Well then,
what I'm going to do is that the stream is
going to move on to the next talk in about 50
seconds. If people want to join and ask any
questions, feel free to join on the blue
button. The link is on the talk page or on
IRC. And feel free to hang out as long as you
want to ask as many questions as you want to
Jeremy. We are recording all of this and
we'll be publishing this later on once again.
And all that's left for me to do is to thank
you so much, Jeremy, for your presentation
and your answers. And I will see you another
time.
[Speaker 1]: So yeah, plasma strike.
I'm not able to grant speaking powers.
So if you wanted to type up something
question-wise.
[Speaker 0]: Oh, okay. I'll manage this in the background.
So we're moving on to the next talk.
We'll figure out the things about VBB,
But in the meantime, enjoy the next talk.
Bye. All right, Jeremy.
We are now on the next talk.
Sorry about having to mention multiple things
at the same time. Speaking rights.
I will try fixing this in the background.
I need to get moving for the next talk,
but I'll do it in the background and we'll
let you know as soon as it's ready.
[Speaker 1]: We're doing great. Okay.
[Speaker 0]: Alright, bye bye Jeremy.