WEBVTT captioned by bhavin192 00:00.000 --> 00:09.880 Hello everyone, welcome to my talk. 00:09.880 --> 00:11.160 I hope you all have been 00:11.160 --> 00:14.680 enjoying EmacsConf so far, like I am. 00:14.680 --> 00:15.960 But you might be wondering, 00:15.960 --> 00:18.480 "How do I meet fellow Emacs users 00:18.480 --> 00:21.560 after the conference?" 00:21.560 --> 00:23.760 What if I tell you there is a way? 00:23.760 --> 00:26.680 The answer is local meetups. 00:26.680 --> 00:29.840 These are user groups who arrange events 00:29.840 --> 00:34.800 at some frequency, they meet at some frequency. 00:34.800 --> 00:36.840 That's what we are going to talk about today: 00:36.840 --> 00:39.480 attending and organizing Emacs meetups. 00:39.480 --> 00:41.600 In other words, enjoying your Emacs journey 00:41.600 --> 00:43.880 with more folks! 00:43.880 --> 00:45.880 I am Bhavin, I am from India, 00:45.880 --> 00:47.280 and I have been organizing 00:47.280 --> 00:49.200 Emacs Asia Pacific meetup 00:49.200 --> 00:52.280 since last few months [almost 2 years]. 00:52.280 --> 00:54.600 We will be talking about online meetups 00:54.600 --> 00:57.440 most of the time. 00:57.440 --> 00:00:59.251 The beauty of online meetups is, 00:00:59.251 --> 00:01:01.480 you can join any meetups 01:01.480 --> 01:03.360 if the time permits, 01:03.360 --> 01:05.080 if the time zone is same. 01:05.080 --> 01:07.080 And there is no barrier. 01:07.080 --> 01:10.120 So let's get started. 01:10.120 --> 01:14.120 Let's see how a meetup looks like. 01:14.120 --> 01:18.040 We will see one of the Emacs APAC meetup's 01:18.040 --> 01:25.640 snippet, basically. 01:25.640 --> 01:29.200 [Ihor]: There is something called org-indent-mode. 01:29.200 --> 01:33.040 So, it's like this org-adapt-indentation 01:33.040 --> 01:34.720 which is like electric indent. 01:34.720 --> 01:37.480 Like when you press enter, it will indent. 01:37.480 --> 01:41.520 There is org-indent-mode, which does not require you 01:41.520 --> 01:44.560 to actually make the indents physically 01:44.560 --> 01:45.600 in the file. 01:45.600 --> 01:54.320 It will make things appear indented. 01:54.320 --> 01:55.880 This one? 01:55.880 --> 01:56.400 Yeah. 01:56.400 --> 01:57.200 [Bhavin]: org-adapt-indentation. 01:57.200 --> 02:03.120 Okay. 02:03.120 --> 02:04.800 Looks interesting, right? 02:04.800 --> 02:08.320 So, let's get into more details. 02:08.320 --> 02:09.520 You might have a question: 02:09.520 --> 02:11.400 "Why I should attend meetups?" 02:11.400 --> 02:12.240 That's a good question. 02:12.240 --> 02:14.640 You should always ask "why". 02:14.640 --> 02:19.160 It's an opportunity to learn together. 02:19.160 --> 02:21.640 You basically meet like-minded people, 02:21.640 --> 02:23.560 like-minded Emacs users, 02:23.560 --> 02:27.400 and you can always have fun, right? 02:27.400 --> 02:29.160 You still might have a question: 02:29.160 --> 02:31.040 "I am a beginner." 02:31.040 --> 02:34.080 I would say that's a great avenue for you. 02:34.080 --> 02:36.640 You get to discover more things. 02:36.640 --> 02:38.800 You can get help if you are facing 02:38.800 --> 02:41.120 any issues, any errors. 02:41.120 --> 02:42.920 And always keep in mind that it's okay 02:42.920 --> 02:44.280 if you don't understand everything 02:44.280 --> 02:45.160 from the discussions. 02:45.160 --> 02:49.800 There are going to be times where everything is…, 02:49.800 --> 02:51.960 all the topics you are not able to understand, 02:51.960 --> 02:56.800 which is totally fine. 02:56.800 --> 02:58.760 "I am an experienced user." 02:58.760 --> 03:00.240 I would say that's even better 03:00.240 --> 03:01.720 because you can help others 03:01.720 --> 03:03.680 during the meetup. 03:03.680 --> 03:06.440 And usually, in Emacs or in general, 03:06.440 --> 03:08.200 there is always something new to learn. 03:08.200 --> 03:10.160 There are plenty of packages. 03:10.160 --> 03:11.080 There might be something 03:11.080 --> 03:12.440 you have never tried. 03:12.440 --> 03:13.760 And there are always going to be 03:13.760 --> 03:16.160 different workflows of using something. 03:16.160 --> 03:23.520 So now, how do I become part of a meetup, right? 03:23.520 --> 03:26.920 "How do I become part of a meetup group?" 03:26.920 --> 03:29.000 The first step you might be doing is 03:29.000 --> 03:30.920 finding a meetup. 03:30.920 --> 03:32.200 There is this page, 03:32.200 --> 03:35.120 EmacsWiki page called Usergroups, 03:35.120 --> 03:37.000 currently maintained 03:37.000 --> 03:38.680 by Leo and Sacha. 03:38.680 --> 03:46.600 So, let's see how that page looks like. 03:46.600 --> 03:48.040 As you can see, this page tells you 03:48.040 --> 03:51.160 about all the upcoming events. 03:51.160 --> 00:04:05.485 And it also has a list of all the meetup groups. 00:04:05.485 --> 00:04:10.000 So, you can find all the groups there. 04:10.000 --> 04:11.760 Once you find one, 04:11.760 --> 04:13.480 you need to join them, right? 04:13.480 --> 04:17.880 How to join differs from group to group 04:17.880 --> 04:20.520 but usually you will find a way to subscribe 04:20.520 --> 04:23.160 to their mailing list or RSS feed, 04:23.160 --> 04:24.520 join their IRC channels. 04:24.520 --> 04:27.200 They might have accounts on some platforms 04:27.200 --> 04:29.960 like Mobilizon or meetup.com. 04:29.960 --> 04:31.400 You can just go there and join, 04:31.400 --> 04:32.320 so that you get notified 04:32.320 --> 04:36.840 whenever there is a new event. 04:36.840 --> 04:39.120 Now, seeing that list, 04:39.120 --> 04:42.080 you might say, "There are too many events 04:42.080 --> 04:42.920 of my interest." 04:42.920 --> 04:47.000 Don't worry, there is a solution. 04:47.000 --> 04:49.280 There is an Emacs calendar, 04:49.280 --> 04:51.960 you can subscribe to this calendar. 04:51.960 --> 04:55.120 Let's see what all events 04:55.120 --> 04:56.800 are there in this particular calendar. 04:56.800 --> 05:00.120 This month there is Emacs Berlin to start with 05:00.120 --> 05:02.840 and then there is EmacsConf, 05:02.840 --> 05:06.360 then Emacs APAC is also there. 05:06.360 --> 05:15.520 Let's see…, there is a companion website 05:15.520 --> 05:17.840 for this calendar as well. 05:17.840 --> 05:19.240 Let's go to the website also. 05:19.240 --> 05:24.600 You will see all the options, how to import it. 05:24.600 --> 05:26.240 There is ICS file, 05:26.240 --> 05:28.120 there are different time zones, 05:28.120 --> 05:29.200 Org mode files. 05:29.200 --> 05:33.200 You can just go there and subscribe. 05:33.200 --> 05:38.520 "How do I make most of it? 05:38.520 --> 05:40.640 If I am attending a meetup, 05:40.640 --> 05:42.120 how do I make most of it?" 05:42.120 --> 05:44.480 I would say never hesitate 05:44.480 --> 05:45.520 from asking questions. 05:45.520 --> 05:46.600 If there is something new, 05:46.600 --> 05:47.840 something you don't understand, 05:47.840 --> 05:49.240 just go ahead and ask questions. 05:49.240 --> 05:51.320 Ask for help if you are stuck somewhere. 05:51.320 --> 05:54.040 There are going to be new things, 05:54.040 --> 05:56.120 so make sure you note them down, 05:56.120 --> 05:58.400 and you can try those later. 05:58.400 --> 06:04.600 If possible, have a microphone or webcam on, 06:04.600 --> 06:07.120 so that you can connect with others very easily. 06:07.120 --> 06:10.560 If that's not an option for some reason, 06:10.560 --> 06:12.520 it's fine, you can always use chat 06:12.520 --> 06:13.720 and interact with everyone. 06:13.720 --> 06:18.560 So, don't make that a reason for not attending. 06:18.560 --> 06:20.360 Go ahead and attend, 06:20.360 --> 06:22.640 even if you just have chat as an option 06:22.640 --> 06:23.720 to interact with others. 06:23.720 --> 06:27.480 "Wait, I still have questions." 06:27.480 --> 06:28.520 Definitely. 06:28.520 --> 06:30.360 If you have more questions, 06:30.360 --> 06:31.640 go ahead and post those. 06:31.640 --> 06:34.440 I will come to them at the end. 06:34.440 --> 06:42.840 Now we know how to attend, 06:42.840 --> 00:06:44.651 what are the things you need to do 00:06:44.651 --> 00:06:45.560 if you want to attend. 06:45.560 --> 00:06:48.418 "What if I want to start my own meetup group?" 00:06:48.418 --> 00:06:51.520 Because there is no regional group, 06:51.520 --> 06:53.560 or there is something very specific 06:53.560 --> 06:55.560 which you want to start a group about. 06:55.560 --> 07:01.800 Again, "Why should I start a meetup group?" 07:01.800 --> 07:05.080 It is a way, I would say, to give back 07:05.080 --> 07:08.880 to the community by creating a platform 07:08.880 --> 07:10.560 for people to interact. 07:10.560 --> 00:07:15.440 You give speakers a platform, 07:15.440 --> 07:17.520 you also give a platform to the attendees. 07:17.520 --> 07:19.680 And obviously to have fun with others. 07:19.680 --> 07:25.640 There are some common questions 07:25.640 --> 07:26.880 which might come up, 07:26.880 --> 00:07:28.051 something like, 00:07:28.051 --> 00:07:29.720 "How much effort do I need to put?" 07:29.720 --> 07:32.600 Personally, I don't have to put 07:32.600 --> 07:34.520 more than two hours a month, 07:34.520 --> 07:36.760 that's including the time 07:36.760 --> 07:37.880 I attend the meetup. 07:37.880 --> 07:42.600 "What if I'm new to Emacs?" 07:42.600 --> 07:43.600 That's totally fine. 07:43.600 --> 07:45.920 You don't have to know Emacs, 07:45.920 --> 07:47.200 you don't have to be an expert 07:47.200 --> 07:48.400 to start a meetup group. 07:48.400 --> 07:49.600 That's totally fine. 07:49.600 --> 07:51.480 You will have more folks joining in 07:51.480 --> 07:54.120 with different experiences. 07:54.120 --> 07:57.160 That's totally fine to be a beginner 07:57.160 --> 07:58.480 in Emacs to start a meetup. 07:58.480 --> 08:02.440 "How do I do it now?" 08:02.440 --> 08:05.680 So, let's look at some specifics, 08:05.680 --> 08:08.280 some questions you might need to answer 08:08.280 --> 08:10.520 in order to start your meetup group. 08:10.520 --> 08:13.640 Format of the meetup. 08:13.640 --> 08:17.120 What participants will do during the meetup? 08:17.120 --> 08:20.920 Let's see one of the options, 08:20.920 --> 08:23.680 this is one of my favorites. 08:23.680 --> 08:26.640 Keep it simple, a bit unstructured 08:26.640 --> 08:28.320 and have free flowing discussions. 08:28.320 --> 08:30.640 What does that mean? 08:30.640 --> 08:32.720 That basically means letting people 08:32.720 --> 08:35.480 ask questions, share new things they have found, 08:35.480 --> 08:39.840 let them ask doubts, let them ask for help. 08:39.840 --> 08:44.200 During this free flowing discussions, 08:44.200 --> 08:46.920 you can go through Emacs News as well, 08:46.920 --> 08:49.760 go through the topics, and you might find 08:49.760 --> 08:52.600 something interesting which you can talk about. 08:52.600 --> 08:57.280 Why I prefer discussions? 08:57.280 --> 09:00.840 Discussions basically give an opportunity 09:00.840 --> 09:03.880 to all the participants to participate. 09:03.880 --> 09:06.640 They get to talk about what they know 09:06.640 --> 09:09.000 rather than just having one way talk. 09:09.000 --> 09:12.120 They can basically participate 09:12.120 --> 09:13.600 by putting up their thoughts. 09:13.600 --> 09:17.200 Everyone gets to learn more 09:17.200 --> 09:18.480 as topics change. 09:18.480 --> 09:21.120 Usually during these free flowing discussions, 09:21.120 --> 09:22.800 topics keep changing 09:22.800 --> 09:25.120 and that's how you get to learn more. 09:25.120 --> 09:29.000 This also has less friction for the speakers. 09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.651 They won't have a burden that, 00:09:31.651 --> 00:09:34.485 "Okay, I have a talk in the meetup 00:09:34.485 --> 00:09:35.600 I need to prepare." 09:35.600 --> 09:38.320 That just increases friction for them 09:38.320 --> 09:39.040 to participate. 09:39.040 --> 09:42.080 If you are having a free flowing discussion, 09:42.080 --> 00:09:44.685 it's basically just a matter of saying, 00:09:44.685 --> 00:09:47.200 "Hey, maybe I would like to share my screen, 09:47.200 --> 09:49.440 and I'll talk about this particular thing." 09:49.440 --> 09:53.560 What about talks? 09:53.560 --> 09:55.240 Everyone loves talks, even I do. 09:55.240 --> 09:58.880 So, make sure you are also accommodating talks, 09:58.880 --> 10:00.800 allow people to submit talks, 10:00.800 --> 10:03.960 and have talks plus discussions. 10:03.960 --> 10:07.560 You can also host watch parties. 10:07.560 --> 10:09.320 You can pick up 10:09.320 --> 10:11.160 any of the talks from EmacsConf 10:11.160 --> 10:14.240 for anything which is out there, 10:14.240 --> 10:15.840 and you can watch it together, 10:15.840 --> 10:17.240 and you can have discussion 10:17.240 --> 10:18.240 about that particular talk. 10:18.240 --> 10:23.000 The next question 10:23.000 --> 10:24.400 you might need to answer 10:24.400 --> 10:25.640 is frequency of the meetup. 10:25.640 --> 10:28.800 How often the group is going to meet? 10:28.800 --> 10:32.880 One option is recurring meetups. 10:32.880 --> 10:37.080 So something like, you meet every month 10:37.080 --> 10:39.000 on a specific day time. 10:39.000 --> 10:43.640 Another option is one-off meetups. 10:43.640 --> 10:46.240 You can meet whenever you have 10:46.240 --> 10:47.520 some specific talk, 10:47.520 --> 10:49.600 some specific discussion topic. 10:49.600 --> 10:52.680 What you can do about the timing is, 10:52.680 --> 10:54.680 if you are targeting a specific region, 10:54.680 --> 10:56.840 make sure [people from] all the time zones 10:56.840 --> 10:58.480 from that region are able to attend. 10:58.480 --> 11:04.480 Now you have figured out everything 11:04.480 --> 11:06.200 and you are going to schedule the meetup. 11:06.200 --> 11:08.280 So, "Should I schedule and just wait?" 11:08.280 --> 11:08.760 No. 11:08.760 --> 11:10.960 Go ahead and spread the word about it. 11:10.960 --> 11:12.560 Let's see what we can do. 11:12.560 --> 11:16.480 You can post on social media about your event. 11:16.480 --> 11:19.840 Usually do it a week or two before, 11:19.840 --> 11:24.200 so that people can plan their other things. 11:24.200 --> 11:27.640 Share it on local GNU/Linux user groups. 11:27.640 --> 11:30.360 They might have IRC channels, mailing lists, 11:30.360 --> 11:32.240 so you should share your event there. 11:32.240 --> 11:35.120 Reddit seems to be a popular place as well. 11:35.120 --> 11:37.520 Many people follow and are there, 11:37.520 --> 11:39.960 so you can post about your event there as well. 11:39.960 --> 11:43.640 The next option is adding your event 11:43.640 --> 11:45.000 to Emacs calendar. 11:45.000 --> 11:47.760 You should get your event added 11:47.760 --> 11:49.680 to the EmacsWiki and the calendar, 11:49.680 --> 11:51.080 which we saw in the first part. 11:51.080 --> 11:53.680 And the instructions are given there. 11:53.680 --> 11:55.640 So, whenever you schedule a meetup, 11:55.640 --> 11:58.000 you should definitely add your event 11:58.000 --> 11:58.920 to those places. 11:58.920 --> 12:02.800 Next thing you should do is…, 12:02.800 --> 12:04.240 these are few points 12:04.240 --> 12:07.720 which you should do during the meetup. 12:07.720 --> 12:10.760 You should start with the introductions. 12:10.760 --> 12:14.560 Introductions serve as an icebreaker, usually. 12:14.560 --> 12:18.240 They make everyone speak about themselves, 12:18.240 --> 12:20.200 so that everyone knows each other 12:20.200 --> 12:21.120 a bit at least. 12:21.120 --> 12:24.880 Make sure it is possible for others 12:24.880 --> 12:27.520 to participate via chat. 12:27.520 --> 12:30.920 So, if there are some messages in the chat, 12:30.920 --> 12:32.840 make sure you relay those to others 12:32.840 --> 12:35.680 who are talking via audio/video. 12:35.680 --> 12:39.440 Share your website at the end, 12:39.440 --> 12:41.720 so that people know and they can follow it, 12:41.720 --> 12:44.360 and they can join the next event. 12:44.360 --> 12:48.280 The next is keeping track of time. 12:48.280 --> 12:50.560 Make sure you keep track of time. 12:50.560 --> 12:52.720 Have some time, let's say, 1 hour 12:52.720 --> 12:54.760 or slightly more than that 12:54.760 --> 12:56.600 and time-bound your event, 12:56.600 --> 12:58.760 so that we respect everyone's time 12:58.760 --> 13:00.280 and we conclude in time. 13:00.280 --> 13:05.000 Now your meetup was done, 13:05.000 --> 13:06.960 it was good, people attended. 13:06.960 --> 13:07.800 What's next? 13:07.800 --> 13:10.600 Publishing the recordings, I would say. 13:10.600 --> 13:14.800 You should consider publishing the talks 13:14.800 --> 13:15.760 or discussions both. 13:15.760 --> 13:20.240 The reason being people can revisit the things. 13:20.240 --> 13:21.960 Usually people go back 13:21.960 --> 13:23.640 and watch the recordings again. 13:23.640 --> 13:26.200 And those who were not able to attend, 13:26.200 --> 13:27.640 they can also participate 13:27.640 --> 13:28.880 by watching the recording. 13:28.880 --> 13:32.040 You can do even more. 13:32.040 --> 13:34.640 You can have captions for the videos, 13:34.640 --> 13:37.280 so that people can enjoy the talks 13:37.280 --> 13:40.600 way better than just audio video. 13:40.600 --> 13:43.400 And you can even have written summaries 13:43.400 --> 00:13:44.451 of the discussions, 00:13:44.451 --> 00:13:45.960 something like with links. 13:45.960 --> 13:48.560 Let's see some of the examples of summaries. 13:48.560 --> 13:55.080 This is one of the summaries 13:55.080 --> 13:56.880 for Austin meetup 13:56.880 --> 13:59.200 and this is written by someone 13:59.200 --> 14:01.400 who is participating during that meetup. 14:01.400 --> 14:04.000 You can see they have put up their thoughts, 14:04.000 --> 14:05.520 what they think about something 14:05.520 --> 14:08.160 they got to know in the event. 14:08.160 --> 14:14.280 Another example we can see is M-x Research. 14:14.280 --> 14:16.800 You can see they have put up 14:16.800 --> 14:18.960 all the discussion points. 14:18.960 --> 14:21.320 They even have action items from the meetup. 14:21.320 --> 14:25.240 One more example we can see is Emacs APAC. 14:25.240 --> 14:28.280 What I have done here is, 14:28.280 --> 14:30.360 I have mentioned the topic and links, 14:30.360 --> 14:32.840 who shared what. 14:32.840 --> 14:36.720 And that's about post meetup stuff. 14:36.720 --> 14:38.280 You can keep it simple. 14:38.280 --> 14:40.960 Just start with hosting your video recordings, 14:40.960 --> 14:44.240 and just start with basic links and details. 14:44.240 --> 14:50.480 So, are we ready to start a meetup? 14:50.480 --> 14:52.880 Definitely. 14:52.880 --> 14:54.640 Let's see some of the points 14:54.640 --> 14:56.120 or checklist, I would say, 14:56.120 --> 14:57.640 you should do before you start 14:57.640 --> 14:58.200 a meetup group. 14:58.200 --> 14:59.800 What are the next steps? 14:59.800 --> 15:04.440 Have a co-organizer. 15:04.440 --> 15:07.960 So, have at least one co-organizer or person 15:07.960 --> 15:09.640 to talk to during the meetup, 15:09.640 --> 15:12.600 so that even if no one shows up 15:12.600 --> 15:14.320 you will have someone to talk to 15:14.320 --> 15:16.240 and you both can discuss 15:16.240 --> 15:20.160 about the topic you decided to. 15:20.160 --> 15:22.200 If your friend or the person 15:22.200 --> 15:23.760 you have reached out to 15:23.760 --> 15:26.760 are hesitant to become a "co-organizer", 15:26.760 --> 15:28.960 because that feels like responsibility, 15:28.960 --> 15:29.720 it's fine. 15:29.720 --> 15:32.360 You can ask them to just come with you 15:32.360 --> 15:36.480 and have the discussion during the event. 15:36.480 --> 15:38.720 And like Andrea explained 15:38.720 --> 15:40.200 in his talk about 'buddy', 15:40.200 --> 15:43.520 buddy is someone who is helping you 15:43.520 --> 15:45.000 with your Emacs journey. 15:45.000 --> 15:48.800 Buddies and their mentees 15:48.800 --> 15:52.280 can make their meeting public, 15:52.280 --> 15:56.040 and that can be a good way to start 15:56.040 --> 15:57.240 or spin-off a meetup. 15:57.240 --> 16:01.920 Have a website for your meetup. 16:01.920 --> 16:04.440 You should definitely have a website 16:04.440 --> 16:05.920 where people can go and read 16:05.920 --> 16:08.640 about your event or the group. 16:08.640 --> 16:10.280 Keep it simple. 16:10.280 --> 16:13.440 Have RSS feed, so that people can subscribe. 16:13.440 --> 16:15.520 And whenever you have new talks, 16:15.520 --> 16:17.680 make sure you add those talks 16:17.680 --> 16:18.880 to the announcement pages. 16:18.880 --> 16:23.960 Let's quickly see some of the example websites. 16:23.960 --> 16:32.480 The first one here is again 16:32.480 --> 16:34.160 Emacs Asia-Pacific event. 16:34.160 --> 16:36.880 You can see we have details, 16:36.880 --> 16:41.080 what is the timing, how to submit a talk, 16:41.080 --> 16:42.000 how to attend. 16:42.000 --> 16:45.720 Next example is Emacs Berlin. 16:45.720 --> 16:47.480 So, you can see they have mentioned 16:47.480 --> 16:48.680 what is the next event, 16:48.680 --> 16:51.440 which were the previous events, 16:51.440 --> 16:53.840 how to participate, how to stay updated. 16:53.840 --> 16:57.040 And similarly, there is M-x Research as well. 16:57.040 --> 16:59.080 They have mentioned what are the events, 16:59.080 --> 17:00.600 what are the upcoming events and all. 17:00.600 --> 17:09.280 You can just get started 17:09.280 --> 17:11.160 by taking any of the websites, 17:11.160 --> 17:13.040 and just modify it to your liking. 17:13.040 --> 17:14.200 That's totally fine. 17:14.200 --> 17:17.640 The next thing you will need 17:17.640 --> 17:19.080 is a video conferencing tool. 17:19.080 --> 17:23.360 It should support video, screen share, chat. 17:23.360 --> 17:25.120 These are the few of 17:25.120 --> 17:27.680 the free software options. 17:27.680 --> 17:29.240 One is BigBlueButton 17:29.240 --> 17:31.000 and another is Jitsi Meet. 17:31.000 --> 17:33.040 You can request for an account 17:33.040 --> 17:36.840 on the given instance to EmacsConf organizers 17:36.840 --> 17:38.280 on this mailing list, 17:38.280 --> 17:40.400 or you can stick to any 17:40.400 --> 17:42.280 of the Jitsi Meet instances. 17:42.280 --> 17:45.960 Communication media. 17:45.960 --> 17:47.280 You should have at least some way 17:47.280 --> 17:51.120 for people to interact post meetup 17:51.120 --> 17:53.000 or before the meetup. 17:53.000 --> 00:17:57.385 You can use any of the existing IRC channels, #emacsconf, 00:17:57.386 --> 00:17:59.880 or maybe you can use the existing 17:59.880 --> 18:01.720 GNU/Linux user groups lists. 18:01.720 --> 18:07.600 I would recommend you to read or watch 18:07.600 --> 18:11.000 "Starting an Emacs meetup" by Harry Schwartz. 18:11.000 --> 18:13.080 They have mentioned details 18:13.080 --> 18:14.840 about in-person meetups, 18:14.840 --> 18:17.720 but there are many important points 18:17.720 --> 18:20.080 to consider in that post 18:20.080 --> 18:21.320 as well as in the recording. 18:21.320 --> 18:23.200 So, go ahead and definitely watch 18:23.200 --> 18:24.840 before you start your meetup. 18:24.840 --> 18:29.560 If you need any help with 18:29.560 --> 18:32.520 BigBlueButton account, hosting, 18:32.520 --> 18:35.280 or captioning the talk recordings 18:35.280 --> 18:37.160 for very specific or good talks, 18:37.160 --> 18:38.880 don't hesitate to reach out to 18:38.880 --> 18:40.480 EmacsConf organizers. 18:40.480 --> 18:42.320 There are many volunteers 18:42.320 --> 18:43.560 subscribed to that list, 18:43.560 --> 18:45.920 so you will definitely find 18:45.920 --> 18:50.080 someone to help you. 18:50.080 --> 18:50.760 I had one idea. 18:50.760 --> 18:53.240 If you are one of the organizers, 18:53.240 --> 18:55.400 or if you plan to start a meetup, 18:55.400 --> 18:57.360 I was thinking if 18:57.360 --> 18:59.280 we can have a common platform 18:59.280 --> 19:00.400 for all the organizers 19:00.400 --> 19:01.240 to discuss what they are doing, 19:01.240 --> 19:04.000 what they are experimenting. 19:04.000 --> 19:06.920 If you are interested, 19:06.920 --> 19:10.400 drop me an email at this email address. 19:10.400 --> 19:13.200 If I get somewhere with this idea, 19:13.200 --> 19:15.440 I will definitely involve everyone 19:15.440 --> 19:16.280 who is interested. 19:16.280 --> 19:21.240 With that, we come to the end of my talk. 19:21.240 --> 19:23.440 I would like to thank Sacha and Leo 19:23.440 --> 19:26.560 for their inputs while I was creating this talk, 19:26.560 --> 19:30.040 and thank you for joining. 19:30.040 --> 19:35.280 Now it is time for the questions.