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so we can't hear you right now just to

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make sure

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no now we can hello

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hello morning good morning

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good morning all right so looks like

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um you can hear me let's see if the um

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stream can hear me can someone in Emacs

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con

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confirm that they can hear me as well

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yes awesome yep apparently they can

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awesome okay great um

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alrighty let's get started do you guys

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wanna

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go ahead with the opening sure

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sasha do you want to start okay hello

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and welcome to the second day of Emacs

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con 2020

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and you could we've got a whole lot of

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uh

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of development talks and coding related

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talks scheduled for today so you can

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do a quick scan of the schedule again

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all the times are very approximate

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so if you happen to be earlier late for

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something that you wanted to

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see we'll figure it out uh we've got um

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we've got

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talks about the Emacs development itself

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as well as

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developing with Emacs uh and a couple of

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things that

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were more user talks but got moved to

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the second day for timing reasons

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because there's so much stuff on the

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first day

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that's uh that's our quick schedule

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overview the schedule page has more

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of course now how do you actually do all

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that uh

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leo you want to tell them yep so as

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yesterday if you want to participate

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well I suppose you're

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watching the stream right now so I won't

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go into detail as far as this is

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concerned

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but for the questions and for taking

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notes we are using an after pad

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where basically you just go onto the

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page and you add your questions

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under the topic which is being discussed

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at the moment so I'm sure the people

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will be putting the legs back in the

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chat I'm just going to do this real

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quick

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there we go so now it's in the chat sir

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we have on isc three rooms that you can

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use

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if you want to get in touch with us

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first if you want to discuss whatever is

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going on during this stream you can go

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on

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imax cont okay and that's where most of

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the discussion happens

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we also have #emacsconf-accessible

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for the people who either can't see or

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can't hear and you know they

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we have lovely volunteers who have been

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describing what has been going on

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yesterday

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uh and we really thank you for this

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because it's really great for getting

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you know more people giving the chance

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to more people to follow the conference

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so thank you so much for this

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and also if you want to get in touch

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with us the organizers either if you are

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a speaker or if you have anything that

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you'd like us to know about

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something like a streaming problem or

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audio problem or anything along those

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lines you know

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maybe other programs actually keep them

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in imax conf we are looking at both

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charts anyway

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but to get in touch Emacsconf that oh

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sorry

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dash.org and also we had I don't believe

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we have

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we had all that much of this yesterday

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but if you would like to continue the

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discussion

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with some of the speakers like you had a

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topic that you really liked and you'd

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like to continue talking with them

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well we invite you to go on jitsi and to

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create a room

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uh all together and to have a direct

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direct chat with the speaker

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or whichever people might be interested

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in the topic as well

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okay I believe that's me I'm not sure to

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whom I'm handing

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the rest of the presentation is it to

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you I mean um yeah sure I can take it

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um all right so hello everyone welcome

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to the second day of ux comp 2020 um

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thank you for being here

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today and for those of you who were

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around yesterday thank you for being

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around yesterday as well

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um it was an awesome day and you know

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like leo and sasha said

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today I think is also very much gonna be

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another awesome day of great talks

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um yeah so I'm very much looking forward

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to it

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um so yeah the schedule is up um

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at emacsconf.org/2020/schedule you

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gotta scroll down

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to the second day uh let's see people

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tell me that my mic is quiet

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um I guess I can on the stream

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um I think so yeah let me double check

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this

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real quick okay I can also try

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um like increasing the volume here a

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little bit

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okay it doesn't sound all that quiet to

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me just because we are

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I'm being very familiar right now so the

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volume

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must be quite high compared to you no

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yeah it's it's fine um

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okay I think it's better now um anyways

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let's see awesome yeah so yesterday

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um you know so the setup that I'm using

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this year for streaming the desktop

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and the talks is that I use the um

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script a a script by the fsf forks which

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they also used for liquor planet

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and so the thing with this script is

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that it only takes one audio source by

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default

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and so I have that set to the desktop

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audio so yesterday on the spot I had to

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improvise to how to get my own audio on

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the stream and I used mumbo

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but then that added a delay which was

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pretty annoying um

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but today this morning I figured I could

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use pulse audio's um monitor system to

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add myself

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um right on this machine um so that the

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delay is shorter and

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seems to be working well so I'm very

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happy about that um

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but anyways yeah so let's get on we have

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the schedule

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um I'm thanking again the free software

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foundation tech team

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um for um you know

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uh allowing us to use this very big

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button uh instance

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um that uh you know for live talks um

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let's see um I'd like to thank all the

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volunteers once again

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um you know uh bavin david bremner

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david dave o'toole who's been specially

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helping out a lot

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in the e-max imax conf dash accessible

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channel with describing what's going on

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at any given moment

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um of course corwin

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carl boyd and um the two folks that

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you're seeing right beside me right now

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uh leon sasha

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who's been doing so much this year um

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thank you all very much

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um yeah let's see oh and also of course

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our wonderful speakers and audience um

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which

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are basically the main thing that this

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conference

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is about and is centered about us people

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talking about their experiences

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um sharing the things they've learned or

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they find interesting and

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for everyone to discussing in chat um

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yeah so it's awesome

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uh if you scroll down a little bit on

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the page

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um I just want to plug the mailing list

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right

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yeah so we have the emacsconf-discuss

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mailing list

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once again um which you know is

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we use for discussions around the

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conference

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including announcements before and after

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it's a fairly quiet list

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um so if you do like to subscribe um you

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know

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you won't get bombarded with emails

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really um

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uh yeah so that's something to consider

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um for example you know

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after the conference we're gonna be

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posting all the videos

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and um that's where I'm gonna be

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announcing it um at least

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in in one place one of the places um

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yeah and I'd also like to draw attention

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to our

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conduct guidelines at emacsconf.org

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conduct

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which is a series of guidelines and

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suggestions to to help make the event

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you know enjoyable and um you know an

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awesome experience for everyone

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involved um I think um so I wasn't

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keeping a close eye on the chat

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yesterday because it was super busy but

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I think

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uh in general you know everything was

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going pretty well pretty smoothly

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um so thank you so much everyone for

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keeping these in mind

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and um yeah that's it for me let's see

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if lee or sasha would like to add

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anything

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no but if you're all good to go you've

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said everything and we've said

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everything

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have a great day awesome yeah um

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uh okay someone okay so dave is asking

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what is the hallway track

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uh slash on conference um do either of

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you want to explain that or should I

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take it

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uh basically we're gonna have our hands

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full keeping the keeping the main track

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running but of course

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people have all sorts of interesting

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conversation ideas and sometimes it's

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nice to do it in real time or with

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shared screens or things like that

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so if you're having a conversation and

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you want to have

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more of a webcam or screen sharing thing

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to enrich that discussion feel free to

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set up a web conference using any of

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your okay

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can you do time in practice later all

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right feel free to

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set up your own conference c type web

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conference thingy

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and um and go find the people who are

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interested in the same thing

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and I'll do all that stuff right

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absolutely

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thanks sasha yeah so basically the idea

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is that

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so you know because of the limited time

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we kind of have to um keep moving along

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uh from one talk to the next and you

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know sometimes there's a lot of awesome

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questions or discussions going on

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from for example you know in Emacs con

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for like for the questions on the pad

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um yeah so the I guess hallway track or

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unconference

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is basically a suggestion for those who

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are interested

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to for example set up a jutsu meet room

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and then you know I'll go join there

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and discuss the talk if you know if the

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speaker can join after their talk

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wonderful

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um but if not even um you know if if

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only like you know the audience and

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folks you know from the emax campfire c

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would like to join and discuss that

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definitely works too

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um yeah that's it um

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I think oh one other thing that we I

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guess wanted to mention possibly is that

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um yesterday I think I noticed that a

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lot of the questions were getting added

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um like top to bottom on the pad but um

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I think the suggestion is to put them

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like stack them up so like

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um add new at the new questions on the

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top um

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that might make it easier both for you

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know the people

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to who are typing the questions um but

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also for the speaker to

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sort of have a fixed I guess um point

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where they're looking at for new

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questions

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um so don't put your questions under

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somebody else's question

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put it at that top level sort of you

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know thing

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right get your own bullet points yeah

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and on the same topic yesterday some

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people were a little scared

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when all the colors were removed it was

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me basically

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in order to help the speakers know which

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is the section that should be looking at

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at the start of every presentation what

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I will do is that I will wipe all the

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colors

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so all the attributions of modifications

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to authors

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so that the streamer sorry the speaker

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has a little easier time finding their

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talk in the list

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right yeah so yeah for for speakers just

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keep scrolling down until you hit a

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colorful

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colorful section um with the author

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colors

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and um yeah double check that um that's

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you know it is your talk

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um yeah with that said I think that's

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all of it for our opening remarks right

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um okay awesome so in that case

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um we will start queuing up the talks

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next up right after this opening remark

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we have Emacs development updates by

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um one of the co-maintainers of Emacs

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john weekley

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um it is a pre-recording and um

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I don't think john is awake yet because

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of right he's

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probably uh still asleep but um he will

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be

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um looking taking a look at the

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questions on the pad

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later on um so yeah please keep posting

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your questions on the path for him to

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later look and try to answer awesome

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so see you guys in a bit