so we can't hear you right now just to
make sure
no now we can hello
hello morning good morning
good morning all right so looks like
um you can hear me let's see if the um
stream can hear me can someone in Emacs
con
confirm that they can hear me as well
yes awesome yep apparently they can
awesome okay great um
alrighty let's get started do you guys
wanna
go ahead with the opening sure
sasha do you want to start okay hello
and welcome to the second day of Emacs
con 2020
and you could we've got a whole lot of
uh
of development talks and coding related
talks scheduled for today so you can
do a quick scan of the schedule again
all the times are very approximate
so if you happen to be earlier late for
something that you wanted to
see we'll figure it out uh we've got um
we've got
talks about the Emacs development itself
as well as
developing with Emacs uh and a couple of
things that
were more user talks but got moved to
the second day for timing reasons
because there's so much stuff on the
first day
that's uh that's our quick schedule
overview the schedule page has more
of course now how do you actually do all
that uh
leo you want to tell them yep so as
yesterday if you want to participate
well I suppose you're
watching the stream right now so I won't
go into detail as far as this is
concerned
but for the questions and for taking
notes we are using an after pad
where basically you just go onto the
page and you add your questions
under the topic which is being discussed
at the moment so I'm sure the people
will be putting the legs back in the
chat I'm just going to do this real
quick
there we go so now it's in the chat sir
we have on isc three rooms that you can
use
if you want to get in touch with us
first if you want to discuss whatever is
going on during this stream you can go
on
imax cont okay and that's where most of
the discussion happens
we also have #emacsconf-accessible
for the people who either can't see or
can't hear and you know they
we have lovely volunteers who have been
describing what has been going on
yesterday
uh and we really thank you for this
because it's really great for getting
you know more people giving the chance
to more people to follow the conference
so thank you so much for this
and also if you want to get in touch
with us the organizers either if you are
a speaker or if you have anything that
you'd like us to know about
something like a streaming problem or
audio problem or anything along those
lines you know
maybe other programs actually keep them
in imax conf we are looking at both
charts anyway
but to get in touch Emacsconf that oh
sorry
dash.org and also we had I don't believe
we have
we had all that much of this yesterday
but if you would like to continue the
discussion
with some of the speakers like you had a
topic that you really liked and you'd
like to continue talking with them
well we invite you to go on jitsi and to
create a room
uh all together and to have a direct
direct chat with the speaker
or whichever people might be interested
in the topic as well
okay I believe that's me I'm not sure to
whom I'm handing
the rest of the presentation is it to
you I mean um yeah sure I can take it
um all right so hello everyone welcome
to the second day of ux comp 2020 um
thank you for being here
today and for those of you who were
around yesterday thank you for being
around yesterday as well
um it was an awesome day and you know
like leo and sasha said
today I think is also very much gonna be
another awesome day of great talks
um yeah so I'm very much looking forward
to it
um so yeah the schedule is up um
at emacsconf.org/2020/schedule you
gotta scroll down
to the second day uh let's see people
tell me that my mic is quiet
um I guess I can on the stream
um I think so yeah let me double check
this
real quick okay I can also try
um like increasing the volume here a
little bit
okay it doesn't sound all that quiet to
me just because we are
I'm being very familiar right now so the
volume
must be quite high compared to you no
yeah it's it's fine um
okay I think it's better now um anyways
let's see awesome yeah so yesterday
um you know so the setup that I'm using
this year for streaming the desktop
and the talks is that I use the um
script a a script by the fsf forks which
they also used for liquor planet
and so the thing with this script is
that it only takes one audio source by
default
and so I have that set to the desktop
audio so yesterday on the spot I had to
improvise to how to get my own audio on
the stream and I used mumbo
but then that added a delay which was
pretty annoying um
but today this morning I figured I could
use pulse audio's um monitor system to
add myself
um right on this machine um so that the
delay is shorter and
seems to be working well so I'm very
happy about that um
but anyways yeah so let's get on we have
the schedule
um I'm thanking again the free software
foundation tech team
um for um you know
uh allowing us to use this very big
button uh instance
um that uh you know for live talks um
let's see um I'd like to thank all the
volunteers once again
um you know uh bavin david bremner
david dave o'toole who's been specially
helping out a lot
in the e-max imax conf dash accessible
channel with describing what's going on
at any given moment
um of course corwin
carl boyd and um the two folks that
you're seeing right beside me right now
uh leon sasha
who's been doing so much this year um
thank you all very much
um yeah let's see oh and also of course
our wonderful speakers and audience um
which
are basically the main thing that this
conference
is about and is centered about us people
talking about their experiences
um sharing the things they've learned or
they find interesting and
for everyone to discussing in chat um
yeah so it's awesome
uh if you scroll down a little bit on
the page
um I just want to plug the mailing list
right
yeah so we have the emacsconf-discuss
mailing list
once again um which you know is
we use for discussions around the
conference
including announcements before and after
it's a fairly quiet list
um so if you do like to subscribe um you
know
you won't get bombarded with emails
really um
uh yeah so that's something to consider
um for example you know
after the conference we're gonna be
posting all the videos
and um that's where I'm gonna be
announcing it um at least
in in one place one of the places um
yeah and I'd also like to draw attention
to our
conduct guidelines at emacsconf.org
conduct
which is a series of guidelines and
suggestions to to help make the event
you know enjoyable and um you know an
awesome experience for everyone
involved um I think um so I wasn't
keeping a close eye on the chat
yesterday because it was super busy but
I think
uh in general you know everything was
going pretty well pretty smoothly
um so thank you so much everyone for
keeping these in mind
and um yeah that's it for me let's see
if lee or sasha would like to add
anything
no but if you're all good to go you've
said everything and we've said
everything
have a great day awesome yeah um
uh okay someone okay so dave is asking
what is the hallway track
uh slash on conference um do either of
you want to explain that or should I
take it
uh basically we're gonna have our hands
full keeping the keeping the main track
running but of course
people have all sorts of interesting
conversation ideas and sometimes it's
nice to do it in real time or with
shared screens or things like that
so if you're having a conversation and
you want to have
more of a webcam or screen sharing thing
to enrich that discussion feel free to
set up a web conference using any of
your okay
can you do time in practice later all
right feel free to
set up your own conference c type web
conference thingy
and um and go find the people who are
interested in the same thing
and I'll do all that stuff right
absolutely
thanks sasha yeah so basically the idea
is that
so you know because of the limited time
we kind of have to um keep moving along
uh from one talk to the next and you
know sometimes there's a lot of awesome
questions or discussions going on
from for example you know in Emacs con
for like for the questions on the pad
um yeah so the I guess hallway track or
unconference
is basically a suggestion for those who
are interested
to for example set up a jutsu meet room
and then you know I'll go join there
and discuss the talk if you know if the
speaker can join after their talk
wonderful
um but if not even um you know if if
only like you know the audience and
folks you know from the emax campfire c
would like to join and discuss that
definitely works too
um yeah that's it um
I think oh one other thing that we I
guess wanted to mention possibly is that
um yesterday I think I noticed that a
lot of the questions were getting added
um like top to bottom on the pad but um
I think the suggestion is to put them
like stack them up so like
um add new at the new questions on the
top um
that might make it easier both for you
know the people
to who are typing the questions um but
also for the speaker to
sort of have a fixed I guess um point
where they're looking at for new
questions
um so don't put your questions under
somebody else's question
put it at that top level sort of you
know thing
right get your own bullet points yeah
and on the same topic yesterday some
people were a little scared
when all the colors were removed it was
me basically
in order to help the speakers know which
is the section that should be looking at
at the start of every presentation what
I will do is that I will wipe all the
colors
so all the attributions of modifications
to authors
so that the streamer sorry the speaker
has a little easier time finding their
talk in the list
right yeah so yeah for for speakers just
keep scrolling down until you hit a
colorful
colorful section um with the author
colors
and um yeah double check that um that's
you know it is your talk
um yeah with that said I think that's
all of it for our opening remarks right
um okay awesome so in that case
um we will start queuing up the talks
next up right after this opening remark
we have Emacs development updates by
um one of the co-maintainers of Emacs
john weekley
um it is a pre-recording and um
I don't think john is awake yet because
of right he's
probably uh still asleep but um he will
be
um looking taking a look at the
questions on the pad
later on um so yeah please keep posting
your questions on the path for him to
later look and try to answer awesome
so see you guys in a bit