WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.480 Leo Vivier: I'm hoping to keep this talk in 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:03.919 15 minutes. I'll take five minutes of 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.279 questions at the end. 00:00:05.279 --> 00:00:07.520 So, hello again! I suppose you're starting 00:00:07.520 --> 00:00:09.200 to get pretty familiar with me and my 00:00:09.200 --> 00:00:10.719 start(?) right now. 00:00:10.719 --> 00:00:12.480 We're getting into the nitty 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:14.719 gritty. We started today, 00:00:14.719 --> 00:00:17.039 I told you about how I'd ventured from 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:18.480 being a user 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:20.800 to being a maintainer, and right now I'm 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:22.080 going to get the chance to 00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:24.240 actually tell you more about the project 00:00:24.240 --> 00:00:25.279 that I'm maintaining, 00:00:25.279 --> 00:00:28.480 which is called org-roam. 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:30.560 So even if I... It would have had a better 00:00:30.560 --> 00:00:32.320 impact if I 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:33.840 didn't scroll the page, but you know, 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:35.520 sadly, I'm out of tea, 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:37.120 it's getting late in Europe and I'm 00:00:37.120 --> 00:00:39.600 starting to get tired. 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.360 So what I'm gonna do during this talk 00:00:43.360 --> 00:00:46.160 is just to do, really, a survey for people who 00:00:46.160 --> 00:00:48.079 do not know what org-roam is about. 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:50.480 Some of you might have, 00:00:50.480 --> 00:00:52.320 whilst browsing Reddit, 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.879 found a topic about org-roam and thought 00:00:54.879 --> 00:00:56.480 to yourself, "Oh, that looks interesting, 00:00:56.480 --> 00:00:58.967 but you know, I have my own workflow 00:00:58.967 --> 00:01:01.039 and I kinda don't need to change anything 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:03.199 about it. I'm completely fine 00:01:03.199 --> 00:01:05.680 using my very very large file. Or I'm 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:07.520 completely fine having my 00:01:07.520 --> 00:01:10.960 database of notes which I've been 00:01:10.960 --> 00:01:14.560 accruing for 10, 20, 30 years or so." 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.759 So what I want to do during this talk 00:01:17.759 --> 00:01:20.960 is both to present to you what org-roam is about, 00:01:20.960 --> 00:01:23.439 if you are in this group of people who 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:25.600 do not know what org-roam is about but would 00:01:25.600 --> 00:01:27.520 like to know more, but 00:01:27.520 --> 00:01:30.560 also for people who have close to no 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:33.360 experience with Emacs and Org Mode and 00:01:33.360 --> 00:01:35.040 who have just found their way. They 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:36.880 wanted to find the system to 00:01:36.880 --> 00:01:39.840 write their notes, basically, and 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:41.439 they discovered this little tool which 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:42.960 is called org-roam, 00:01:42.960 --> 00:01:44.479 and they'd like to know more about this. 00:01:44.479 --> 00:01:49.360 So I've got 13 minutes to convince you to use org-roam. 00:01:49.360 --> 00:01:53.360 If we go in a very broad strokes, 00:01:53.360 --> 00:01:56.799 what is org-roam? org-roam 00:01:56.799 --> 00:01:59.759 is a way for you to manage backlinks 00:01:59.759 --> 00:02:03.439 inside Org Mode. The keyword 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:07.040 in what I've just said is links. 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:10.080 Now there is a principle behind org-roam 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:12.879 which is called the Zettelkasten method, 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:14.239 which you can see written right there. 00:02:14.239 --> 00:02:15.440 It's a German word 00:02:15.440 --> 00:02:18.000 which means a slip box. If you remember 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:19.280 in old libraries, 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:22.080 you had--actually, I believe if I scroll, I 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:23.440 should have an example of this. 00:02:23.440 --> 00:02:26.640 Yes. So this is a slip box. Basically, in 00:02:26.640 --> 00:02:28.879 all libraries, you used to have all the 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:30.560 references to the books that the library 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:31.599 used to have 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:34.720 inside those boxes. They're called 00:02:34.720 --> 00:02:36.080 slip boxes because you can 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:38.480 insert stuff into the boxes and you can 00:02:38.480 --> 00:02:41.200 remove stuff out of the boxes. 00:02:41.200 --> 00:02:44.720 Now if I try 00:02:44.720 --> 00:02:48.000 to summarize as simply as I may what the 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:49.360 Zettelkasten method 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:52.800 is about, it's about having a way 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:56.560 to work with your notes which considers 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.920 elements of knowledge as atoms, 00:02:59.920 --> 00:03:02.000 as something that is individual, like 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:04.159 a single file. 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.440 You consider that in order to build knowledge, 00:03:07.440 --> 00:03:11.120 you have to combine atoms together, so that 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:14.720 when you have one atom, another atom, 00:03:14.720 --> 00:03:17.519 if you link them together, you have a 00:03:17.519 --> 00:03:22.000 complex thought or a complex molecule. 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.000 Don't quote me on the chemistry, by 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:25.360 the way. I shall remind you I'm an 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:26.879 English major I have no idea what I'm 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:28.239 talking about. 00:03:28.239 --> 00:03:31.360 So, how does it work as far as a 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:35.280 note-taking system is concerned? To do so, 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:37.599 I'm just going to switch really quickly 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:43.040 to my Emacs, if I may. So I'm just going to screenshare 00:03:43.040 --> 00:03:44.959 onto my Emacs. Just give me a second to get 00:03:44.959 --> 00:03:47.840 the windows all right. 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:52.080 Okay, it's loading up. Oh no, 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:54.720 I think Firefox has crashed again. Okay, 00:03:54.720 --> 00:03:56.000 so you're gonna have to give me a second. 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:58.840 I need to figure this out. 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:01.680 Okay. So everything is frozen right now. 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:03.120 Just to tell you, so you're gonna have to 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:04.720 deal with my lovely voice. 00:04:04.720 --> 00:04:06.159 Amin, can you confirm that if I 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:09.840 switch to a new (tty?), you can still hear me? 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.959 So can you still hear me now? 00:04:12.959 --> 00:04:14.879 Okay. So I'm gonna have probably to kill 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:16.479 firefox and log in again. 00:04:16.479 --> 00:04:18.000 I'm sorry. It's gonna cost us two 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:19.600 minutes, but I'm gonna try to be as fast 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:20.560 as I can. Okay 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:28.560 (Amin: Okay. No problem, thanks. 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:35.199 All right. 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:37.520 I guess no event is a good one without 00:04:37.520 --> 00:04:39.280 one or two technical difficulties. 00:04:39.280 --> 00:04:42.800 I guess this is our share of 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.360 technical difficulties this year. 00:04:45.360 --> 00:05:04.800 No problem.) 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:06.320 Leo: All right. Guess who's back? It's not 00:05:06.320 --> 00:05:08.160 Britney. It's just me, sadly, so you're 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:10.800 gonna have to make do with me. 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:11.667 (Amin: Welcome back.) 00:05:11.667 --> 00:05:12.880 Leo: Well, thank you. I'm just 00:05:12.880 --> 00:05:15.520 gonna turn back on the camera, if I may. 00:05:15.520 --> 00:05:19.919 All righty. 00:05:19.919 --> 00:05:22.400 I'm going to make myself a presenter. 00:05:22.400 --> 00:05:23.520 I'm going to 00:05:23.520 --> 00:05:26.160 share my screen with you. 00:05:29.919 --> 00:05:32.700 So, if my calculations are correct, 00:05:32.700 --> 00:05:34.800 you should be able to see my monitor right now. 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:38.160 (Amin: Yep, but not your webcam feed.) 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:39.919 Not my webcam feed. Okay. So I'm going to 00:05:39.919 --> 00:05:42.800 stop it. 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.000 Sorry for the little delay, folks. You know, it's... 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:49.039 The show must go on. Can you see it now? 00:05:49.039 --> 00:05:52.320 (Amin: Not yet.) Leo: Still not? 00:05:52.320 --> 00:06:00.080 Damn it. Can I stop it? Okay, so I'm gonna... 00:06:00.080 --> 00:06:32.960 (Amin: yeah, maybe try like sharing a webcam first.) 00:06:32.960 --> 00:06:36.319 Leo: All right, I'm back now. So I'm going to 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:37.759 share my webcam first. 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:39.550 (Amin: Okay.) 00:06:43.440 --> 00:06:46.560 Leo: All righty. So can you confirm whenever 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.360 you've got my webcam working? 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.880 (Amin: Let's see. I don't see it yet, 00:06:52.880 --> 00:06:55.919 unfortunately.) Leo: Is it loading up? (Amin: yeah, 00:06:55.919 --> 00:06:57.120 it's coming up. 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.680 Yep, I can see it.) Leo: Awesome. All right. Okay, 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:01.199 we're back on track. I've got still eight 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:02.880 minutes left to do, so I might have to 00:07:02.880 --> 00:07:04.160 have a couple of minutes to my talk, if 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.000 you don't mind and shave off some 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:07.599 questions. 00:07:07.599 --> 00:07:10.800 (Amin: Okay, do you want to share your screen?) Leo: Okay, yeah, 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.759 I'm on my way to. All right. So 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:14.639 please forget 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.240 whatever, whichever technical 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.000 difficulties we might have had for 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:18.479 the last 00:07:18.479 --> 00:07:20.240 three, four minutes, but we're back on 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:22.080 track now. 00:07:22.080 --> 00:07:24.960 So org-roam: what is it and how does it 00:07:24.960 --> 00:07:26.639 work? I was telling you all about 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:28.720 atoms and I was telling you about links, 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:30.720 but how does it work concretely? 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.840 Right now what you're seeing on your screens 00:07:33.840 --> 00:07:37.199 is a slip box, which is what we... the fancy 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:39.520 word that we use to designate your folder 00:07:39.520 --> 00:07:41.039 where all your notes are going to be 00:07:41.039 --> 00:07:43.280 living. So you have here (and I hope you 00:07:43.280 --> 00:07:44.000 can see my 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.039 cursor; yes you can)... So we have a file 00:07:47.039 --> 00:07:48.199 which is called 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:51.120 index.org and the good thing is, 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:52.960 as you might have garnered by the fact 00:07:52.960 --> 00:07:54.240 that it finishes by 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.599 .org is that it is just an Org Mode file. 00:07:57.599 --> 00:08:00.800 I can create a heading. 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.520 I can create another heading. 00:08:03.520 --> 00:08:05.599 everything works as you would expect it to. 00:08:05.599 --> 00:08:08.879 It is completely... It's just an Org Mode 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:10.400 file at the end of the day. 00:08:10.400 --> 00:08:13.759 Now, what can we do with this? 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.800 I've told you about links. You do know that 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:19.520 Org Mode has links. What we're going 00:08:19.520 --> 00:08:20.080 to do 00:08:20.080 --> 00:08:22.479 is that we're going to create a new file. 00:08:22.479 --> 00:08:23.440 We're going to go back 00:08:23.440 --> 00:08:26.240 to our directory. What I'm going to 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.000 do is that we have a special command... 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:28.879 Actually, let me just 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.199 show you my command. It might help you a 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:32.240 little bit 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:35.360 see what I'm doing. Wait, which is the 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:36.479 buffer... 00:08:36.479 --> 00:08:39.680 Uh... log mode? Yes. exlog. So now on the 00:08:39.680 --> 00:08:41.039 right side of the monitor, you'll be able 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.120 to see the command that I'm using. 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.040 If you don't mind, in order to have as 00:08:45.040 --> 00:08:46.640 much realistic as possible, I'm going to 00:08:46.640 --> 00:08:48.480 make it a little bit shorter. 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:50.720 Smaller, I should say. Is it not too small? 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:52.320 Yeah, I believe it's good. 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.720 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:57.167 run a command in org-roam which allows me 00:08:57.167 --> 00:08:59.200 to create a new note. 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:02.320 I'm going to use my keybinding, which 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:04.720 is not this one, definitely, 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.800 and I'm going to create a new file which 00:09:06.800 --> 00:09:09.839 is, in a great tradition of examples in 00:09:09.839 --> 00:09:12.400 programming, I'm going to call "foo." 00:09:12.400 --> 00:09:15.519 Right. So at the bottom-- 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:17.600 in the bottom buffer, I should say, you 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:21.760 are seeing the file "foo," which is, as you can see here, 00:09:21.760 --> 00:09:22.720 a capture buffer 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.640 just like you would have in Org Mode. 00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:25.839 Now what I'm going to do 00:09:25.839 --> 00:09:28.560 is that I'm going to validate this file 00:09:28.560 --> 00:09:32.560 and now you see that we are in the file "foo." 00:09:32.560 --> 00:09:36.240 The good thing is that I can start 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:39.440 writing without having to worry 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.160 about anything else. 00:09:42.160 --> 00:09:43.760 I was going to say that I'm 00:09:43.760 --> 00:09:46.160 showing off about my typing skills, but I 00:09:46.160 --> 00:09:47.680 did make mistakes, so 00:09:47.680 --> 00:09:50.959 well, nobody's perfect, right? So now we do 00:09:50.959 --> 00:09:53.760 have this "foo" file. We're going to 00:09:53.760 --> 00:09:55.519 go back to the index. Let's go back to 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:56.800 the directory. 00:09:56.800 --> 00:09:58.560 We're going to refresh the file. As you 00:09:58.560 --> 00:10:00.560 can see, we have a file which is called "foo," 00:10:00.560 --> 00:10:03.360 and we have the index. So now what I'm 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:04.399 going to do 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:06.480 is that I'm going to insert a link to 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:07.760 this file. 00:10:07.760 --> 00:10:09.920 So we're going to run another org-roam 00:10:09.920 --> 00:10:11.360 command which you can see here, 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.160 org-roam-insert, and I'm going to insert a 00:10:14.160 --> 00:10:15.279 link to the file 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:17.279 "foo." As you can see, it has now 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:18.959 appeared. Now what I'm going to do, 00:10:18.959 --> 00:10:21.920 I'm going to save the file, and now I'm 00:10:21.920 --> 00:10:23.040 going to show you 00:10:23.040 --> 00:10:24.480 the little thing I told you about-- 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.720 backlinks--before. I'm afraid I'm going 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:27.680 to have to hide 00:10:27.680 --> 00:10:29.680 the commands for now, but don't worry 00:10:29.680 --> 00:10:30.880 they'll be back. 00:10:30.880 --> 00:10:34.320 I'm going to show you the side buffer. 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:35.839 It is the buffer that you see on the 00:10:35.839 --> 00:10:38.079 right side of your screen. 00:10:38.079 --> 00:10:40.000 Right now, it's telling you that 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.560 index does not have any backlinks, 00:10:42.560 --> 00:10:46.320 which is normal. But if we follow the link 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.200 "foo," now you see something different on 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:50.560 the right side. As you can see on the 00:10:50.560 --> 00:10:52.160 left side, we're back inside the 00:10:52.160 --> 00:10:53.360 file "foo," 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.600 but on the right side, we have something 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:56.560 showing up: 00:10:56.560 --> 00:11:00.160 one backlink in the file "index." 00:11:00.160 --> 00:11:03.519 And under the heading, you have 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:04.399 the file-- 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:08.720 sorry, the link "foo." You can just open the link, 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:10.720 and you will be brought exactly where it is. 00:11:12.640 --> 00:11:16.240 So that was one thing. Now just 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:17.600 to make sure that you've understood 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:20.320 properly, I'm going to go back to the index. 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:23.920 I'm going to create a second file. 00:11:23.920 --> 00:11:25.440 Now I'm going to use a command that 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.680 is slightly different. Let me just 00:11:27.680 --> 00:11:30.800 show you the commands on the right. 00:11:30.800 --> 00:11:32.480 I'm going to run the command org-roam-insert 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:33.839 and I'm going to 00:11:33.839 --> 00:11:37.519 enter a file which is called "bar." 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.600 Again, at the bottom, you can see that 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:41.440 I have a new file "bar." 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.920 I'm going to validate this file. 00:11:45.920 --> 00:11:49.760 I'm going to save index.org. 00:11:49.760 --> 00:11:52.959 Now, if we go in bar, and if I show 00:11:52.959 --> 00:11:55.920 you the links on the side, you can see that 00:11:55.920 --> 00:11:58.240 exactly the same, we have a link. 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:00.480 Now just to make the pictures complete, 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:02.639 inside the file "bar," I'm going to insert 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:05.200 a link to "foo." I'm going to save. I'm 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:06.959 going to go to the file "foo." Now on 00:12:06.959 --> 00:12:07.920 the right side, 00:12:07.920 --> 00:12:11.120 you can see that we have two backlinks. 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.720 Now you're gonna tell me, yeah, thank you, Leo, but 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:17.760 what's the point? Well the thing is 00:12:17.760 --> 00:12:20.320 it might sound... it might seem very simple, 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.160 what I've just shown you, 00:12:22.160 --> 00:12:24.160 but programmatically, it's a little hard 00:12:24.160 --> 00:12:26.160 to do. We have to 00:12:26.160 --> 00:12:28.000 look into your files to make sure that 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.079 every time you link your file 00:12:30.079 --> 00:12:32.240 somewhere else, we need to track 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.079 everything down. 00:12:34.079 --> 00:12:37.920 Now as simple as org-roam might be 00:12:37.920 --> 00:12:39.519 looking to you, 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:43.279 thee thing is what we try to do with org-roam 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.399 is to make sure that your collection of notes 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.320 remains consistent whatever we do. 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.079 An example, for instance, right now 00:12:54.079 --> 00:12:56.880 I've told you about a file named "foo" and 00:12:56.880 --> 00:13:01.120 the file named "bar." Let's say that for whatever reason, 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.920 you decide to rename your file "foo" to 00:13:03.920 --> 00:13:08.079 something very original. Let's just say "bar." 00:13:08.079 --> 00:13:11.040 So we actually have a way in Emacs--in 00:13:11.040 --> 00:13:12.320 org-roam, I should say-- 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:14.560 when you modify the title at the top of 00:13:14.560 --> 00:13:15.680 the file... 00:13:15.680 --> 00:13:18.880 So we get "foo..." I've modified it with "baz." 00:13:18.880 --> 00:13:20.320 You can see at the bottom that right now 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:22.000 we haven't saved and we are still in the 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.079 file "foo.org." I'm going to save. 00:13:26.079 --> 00:13:29.360 Now what you see is 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.560 a new name for the file. But you may ask, 00:13:32.560 --> 00:13:35.360 "Wait a second, in the other file, we had a 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:36.880 link to this file. 00:13:36.880 --> 00:13:40.560 Does it mean that it's broken? Does it mean 00:13:40.560 --> 00:13:43.440 that we cannot access the file anymore?" 00:13:43.920 --> 00:13:48.000 But when we go there, beginning to go in the index, 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.399 so obviously the actual description of 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.079 the link hasn't been updated, 00:13:52.079 --> 00:13:54.320 but if I show you what goes on under the 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:55.680 hood by showing you 00:13:55.680 --> 00:13:57.440 what is fontified, what is behind the 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:00.000 content of the link... 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:02.320 Actually, it didn't work! that's why 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:04.079 you never present live, folks, because 00:14:04.079 --> 00:14:04.639 otherwise you're 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:05.920 just going to show problems with the 00:14:05.920 --> 00:14:08.880 software and that's not good. 00:14:08.880 --> 00:14:12.079 Something must have gone on, obviously. 00:14:12.079 --> 00:14:15.120 But generally speaking, the file should 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.120 have been updated. 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:18.959 Damn. I'm showing you bugging my software. 00:14:18.959 --> 00:14:21.279 That's not very professional, now is it? 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:25.040 Basically, to come back to the main idea, 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:28.079 what we try to do with org-roam is to make 00:14:28.079 --> 00:14:28.880 sure that 00:14:28.880 --> 00:14:30.833 everything remains consistent. 00:14:30.833 --> 00:14:35.279 We really much love the system of 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:38.720 organization that is behind the Zettelkasten method. 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:40.240 Now I was going, at this point of the 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:41.600 presentation, basically, I wanted to go 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:42.639 back to Firefox 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:45.199 and show you more stuff, but it's likely 00:14:45.199 --> 00:14:46.880 that it's going to crash again. 00:14:46.880 --> 00:14:48.959 I'm not going to tempt the devil. 00:14:48.959 --> 00:14:50.240 I'm just going to continue talking to 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:51.680 you like that. 00:14:51.680 --> 00:14:54.800 So the Zettelkasten method 00:14:54.800 --> 00:14:58.160 is a very organic way 00:14:58.160 --> 00:15:01.839 to write notes. If you think... 00:15:01.839 --> 00:15:04.959 I believe as Org Mode users, 00:15:04.959 --> 00:15:06.639 we share quite a lot of features. I'm 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:08.000 out of time. I'm just going to take one 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:09.600 more minute to answer this question 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:12.320 that I'm asking myself anyway. But if 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:14.560 you're anything like me, 00:15:14.560 --> 00:15:16.079 you've been through many 00:15:16.079 --> 00:15:18.240 iterations of your workflow inside 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:18.959 Org Mode. 00:15:18.959 --> 00:15:20.959 Do I keep all my professional stuff 00:15:20.959 --> 00:15:22.959 under one heading, or do I create a 00:15:22.959 --> 00:15:24.399 separate file for this? 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:25.920 You know, those types of questions on 00:15:25.920 --> 00:15:28.000 which you could ponder for 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.639 many, many hours at night, generally when 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:31.360 you have a 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.560 tight deadline to be following. But 00:15:34.560 --> 00:15:36.959 what I've discovered by using org-roam for 00:15:36.959 --> 00:15:38.240 taking notes about 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:41.360 my academic projects or by taking notes on 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:44.880 anything worth writing about 00:15:44.880 --> 00:15:47.440 is that not having to worry about the 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:49.199 structure of you files, 00:15:49.199 --> 00:15:52.399 just having to worry about atoms 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:56.079 and links, it does wonders 00:15:56.079 --> 00:15:58.480 for the way you think about problems. It 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.639 does wonders about your creativity. 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.800 And it does wonders about your ability to 00:16:04.800 --> 00:16:07.519 take your thoughts, put them on a paper, 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:08.800 and generally, during this 00:16:08.800 --> 00:16:10.399 process you realize, "Oh, maybe I do not 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:13.120 know this concept as well as I should." 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:16.079 But I've never had a system which 00:16:16.079 --> 00:16:16.800 brought me 00:16:16.800 --> 00:16:19.839 as much serendipity as this system. 00:16:19.839 --> 00:16:21.440 And for those who don't know, serendipity 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.880 the ability to come up with novel ideas 00:16:24.880 --> 00:16:28.800 on the spot, contextually. 00:16:28.800 --> 00:16:32.240 So this was just a little primer on what 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:34.959 org-roam and the Zettelkasten is about. 00:16:34.959 --> 00:16:38.000 In about 20 minutes, I'll be giving you a talk 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:39.680 about the technical aspects of org-roam, 00:16:39.680 --> 00:16:40.800 which I'm certain 00:16:40.800 --> 00:16:43.040 some of you will be very interested in. 00:16:44.160 --> 00:16:46.160 Otherwise, I do have a YouTube channel 00:16:46.160 --> 00:16:50.720 where I try to record videos where I explain to you 00:16:52.079 --> 00:16:55.600 what org-roam is about, what the method is about. 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.040 I'll just finish on this. I'm two 00:16:57.040 --> 00:16:58.720 minutes extra time, sorry. 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:02.399 We do know that a lot of people 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.079 are interested into org-roam. I mentioned 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:06.160 at the very beginning of the presentation 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:09.360 that a lot of people discovered Emacs 00:17:09.360 --> 00:17:10.640 and org-roam 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:14.640 and Org Mode even through org-roam. 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.400 We feel that we have a duty to 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:20.959 introduce those people, this new pool of 00:17:20.959 --> 00:17:22.720 people, most of whom are 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.439 academic,s into the world of Emacs and 00:17:25.439 --> 00:17:27.600 into the world of free software. 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:30.240 Right now the thing is we're not 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:32.240 doing a particularly good job at writing 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:34.080 manuals. I'm just going to try 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:36.160 to stop sharing my screen, because I'm 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:37.360 nearly to the end, 00:17:37.360 --> 00:17:40.240 and just try sharing my Firefox windows 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:41.919 if it allows me. No, it doesn't allow me, 00:17:41.919 --> 00:17:44.160 which is very good. That's why I won't have to 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:47.200 to screw things up. 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.080 We know that our manual is not fully 00:17:50.080 --> 00:17:50.880 up to date, 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.760 but believe me, one of the key focus 00:17:53.760 --> 00:17:54.480 right now 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:57.840 is making sure that within two to three months, 00:17:57.840 --> 00:17:59.679 we have a good tutorial for people to 00:17:59.679 --> 00:18:02.559 join, and we have good videos for people 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:04.640 to get introduced to the topics we're covering. 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:06.320 And that's me done. So, thank you so much 00:18:06.320 --> 00:18:07.679 for listening and now I'll be taking 00:18:07.679 --> 00:18:09.840 some questions. 00:18:09.840 --> 00:18:12.880 (Amin: Thank you very much, Leo. 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:17.679 Cheers! We have, I think, about two minutes 00:18:17.679 --> 00:18:19.440 four questions, I see a lot of them 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:20.880 on the pad. 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:23.120 Would you take them?) Leo: Sure. So... Yep I'm 00:18:23.120 --> 00:18:24.320 scrolling, I'm scrolling... 00:18:24.320 --> 00:18:27.600 Getting Things Done, that's Aldric. 00:18:27.600 --> 00:18:30.000 Still scrolling. Okay. org-roam. Oh, wow. Okay. 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:31.679 So we do have quite a lot of questions. 00:18:31.679 --> 00:18:33.600 Please excuse me if I'm answering 00:18:33.600 --> 00:18:34.799 your questions really fast, but I just 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:35.760 want to make sure that I cover 00:18:35.760 --> 00:18:38.080 as much ground as possible. "What is 00:18:38.080 --> 00:18:41.039 the functionality of org-roam-unlinked-references?" 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:43.200 So basically when you have a file that 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.200 is not linked anywhere, 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:48.000 this function allows you to see... 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.520 Let's say we have a file "Emacs" 00:18:49.520 --> 00:18:51.200 and we've talked about "Emacs" in another 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:53.200 note, but we haven't created a link. 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:57.440 What this command do is that it 00:18:57.440 --> 00:18:59.520 looks into your folder for every mention 00:18:59.520 --> 00:19:00.720 of "Emacs" that is not 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.840 linked to the note "Emacs," and it prints 00:19:03.840 --> 00:19:05.039 all the results in the buffer so that 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:06.480 you know, "okay, I've talked about Emacs 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:07.840 here, but I didn't create a link. 00:19:07.840 --> 00:19:10.480 Do I want to create a link?" That's it. 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:11.840 "Is it possible to use the backlinks 00:19:11.840 --> 00:19:16.400 features in regular Org buffers?" Right now, no. It is not possible. We are 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:18.080 having a very controlled environment 00:19:18.080 --> 00:19:20.240 which is... I told you about this slip box 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:21.280 folder before. 00:19:21.280 --> 00:19:22.799 This is where we keep all the notes. 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:24.400 The reason why we do this will be more 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:27.360 evident when I go through the technical presentation, 00:19:27.360 --> 00:19:30.720 but it's because of optimization. 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:32.080 I'll get back to you on that 00:19:32.080 --> 00:19:33.760 afterwards. 00:19:33.760 --> 00:19:35.440 "Do you make org-roam database 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.039 accessible across computers?" 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:39.760 No, I do not, because I'm only using my 00:19:39.760 --> 00:19:41.760 laptop, but plenty of people have had 00:19:41.760 --> 00:19:44.559 a lot of success doing so either by 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:47.039 sharing the files via syncthing or by 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:49.760 any other method. We have a section in a manual 00:19:49.760 --> 00:19:51.100 specifying how to do this. 00:19:51.100 --> 00:19:54.880 "How do you discover tags' links to add to your new org-roam note?" 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:56.160 There is something that I didn't tell 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.679 you about which is called org-roam server, 00:19:57.679 --> 00:20:01.679 which is a magnificent way to access 00:20:01.679 --> 00:20:04.320 visually the notes that you have in your 00:20:04.320 --> 00:20:05.360 in your system. 00:20:05.360 --> 00:20:08.799 You'll have to go to the orgroam.com website. 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:10.640 Please go on our Github page. We 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:12.080 show everything. 00:20:12.080 --> 00:20:14.640 I hope what I've told you has excited 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:16.000 you, so please go. 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:18.000 Maybe one more question, two more 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.133 questions, just to make sure? 00:20:19.133 --> 00:20:21.679 "Is it possible to seamlessly link to other 00:20:21.679 --> 00:20:23.039 notes with syntax instead of a 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:23.919 keybinding?" 00:20:23.919 --> 00:20:25.840 Yes, we are working on this. This is a 00:20:25.840 --> 00:20:27.120 huge project that we're doing with 00:20:27.120 --> 00:20:28.880 org-roam which is called 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:30.960 link-ux. We're trying to do something 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:32.880 which is very close to Roam Research, 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:34.559 which is the software we're using for 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:36.880 inspiration for org-roam. 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:39.200 Yes, there are going to be 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.280 ways to do this in the future. I'm going 00:20:41.280 --> 00:20:42.640 to give you a window of 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:46.320 maybe three to four months. One last question. 00:20:46.320 --> 00:20:48.480 Uh, good on you, thank you, well, thank you 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:49.440 for this. 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:51.039 "Is there an easy way to export several 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.200 selected nodes to, say, a LaTeX file?" 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.960 LaTeX. Yes. I mean, it's Org Mode. 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.840 At the very core, it is Org Mode, so you 00:20:59.840 --> 00:21:00.480 know you don't... 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:02.559 If you want to export to a LaTeX file, you 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:04.000 can... you just use the 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.320 ox-latex library, which you can access 00:21:06.320 --> 00:21:08.320 by pressing C-c C-e 00:21:08.320 --> 00:21:11.760 for export. All right. Is it... 00:21:11.760 --> 00:21:12.480 I believe I'm... 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:13.919 It's all the time I had. Amin, can you 00:21:13.919 --> 00:21:16.880 confirm this? 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.039 Okay. So if you have more questions, 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:20.240 don't worry, I'll be in chat. 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:23.679 I'll be answering them. I'm also on on 00:21:23.679 --> 00:21:26.799 all the platforms we advertise on 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:28.159 org-roam. If you want to reach me, I'm 00:21:28.159 --> 00:21:29.280 really easy to reach. 00:21:29.280 --> 00:21:31.919 Our Github page is always open. So thank 00:21:31.919 --> 00:21:32.559 you all for 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:35.520 all your questions and all your energy 00:21:35.520 --> 00:21:37.440 about org-roam. It is very exciting for me 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:38.640 to see all this. 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:42.000 but right now, I'll be handing off the 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.080 microphone, I should say, to Noorah, who is 00:21:44.080 --> 00:21:45.840 going to talk to you about the 00:21:45.840 --> 00:21:48.480 academic way to use org-roam. I'll be 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.080 back afterwards with the technical talk. 00:21:50.080 --> 00:21:53.760 Thank you. (Amin: Thank you very much, Leo) 00:21:53.760 --> 00:21:57.760 Leo: See you later, guys.