WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.480 I'm hoping to keep this talk in the 15 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:03.919 minutes and I'll take five minutes of 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.279 question at the end 00:00:05.279 --> 00:00:07.520 so hello again I suppose you're starting 00:00:07.520 --> 00:00:09.200 to get pretty familiar with me and my 00:00:09.200 --> 00:00:10.719 start right now so 00:00:10.719 --> 00:00:12.480 right now we're getting into the nitty 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:14.719 gritty we started today 00:00:14.719 --> 00:00:17.039 I told you about how I'd ventured from 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:18.480 being a user 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:20.800 to being a maintainer and right now I'm 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:22.080 going to get the chance to 00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:24.240 actually tell you more about the project 00:00:24.240 --> 00:00:25.279 that I'm maintaining 00:00:25.279 --> 00:00:28.480 which is called org rome 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:30.560 so even if I it would have had a better 00:00:30.560 --> 00:00:32.320 impact if I'd 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:33.840 didn't scroll the page but you know 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:35.520 sadly I'm out of tea 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:37.120 it's getting late in europe and I'm 00:00:37.120 --> 00:00:39.600 starting to get tired 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.360 so what I'm gonna do during this talk 00:00:43.360 --> 00:00:46.160 is just to do real survey for people who 00:00:46.160 --> 00:00:48.079 do not know what orgrom is about 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:50.480 some of you might might have you know 00:00:50.480 --> 00:00:52.320 whilst browsing reddit 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.879 found a topic about orgrom and thought 00:00:54.879 --> 00:00:56.480 to yourself oh that looks interesting 00:00:56.480 --> 00:00:57.199 but 00:00:57.199 --> 00:00:59.680 you know I have my own workflow and I 00:00:59.680 --> 00:01:01.039 get it don't need to change anything 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:03.199 about it you know I'm completely fine 00:01:03.199 --> 00:01:05.680 using my very very large file or I'm 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:07.520 completely fine having my 00:01:07.520 --> 00:01:10.960 database of notes which is I've been 00:01:10.960 --> 00:01:14.560 accruing for like 10 20 30 years or so 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.759 so what I want to do during this talk 00:01:17.759 --> 00:01:20.080 is both to present to you what orgrom is 00:01:20.080 --> 00:01:20.960 about 00:01:20.960 --> 00:01:23.439 if you are in this group of people who 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:24.000 do not 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:25.600 know what algorithm is about but would 00:01:25.600 --> 00:01:27.520 like to know more but 00:01:27.520 --> 00:01:30.560 also for people who have close to no 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:33.360 experience with Emacs and org mode and 00:01:33.360 --> 00:01:35.040 was just found their way you know they 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:36.880 wanted to find the system to 00:01:36.880 --> 00:01:39.840 write their notes basically and you know 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:41.439 they discovered this little tool which 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:42.960 is called orgrome 00:01:42.960 --> 00:01:44.479 and they'd like to know more about this 00:01:44.479 --> 00:01:46.240 so I've got 13 00:01:46.240 --> 00:01:49.360 minutes to convince you to use hologram 00:01:49.360 --> 00:01:53.360 so if we go in a very broad strokes 00:01:53.360 --> 00:01:56.799 what is orgram orgrom 00:01:56.799 --> 00:01:59.759 is a way for you to manage backlinks 00:01:59.759 --> 00:02:00.320 inside 00:02:00.320 --> 00:02:03.439 old mode and the keyword 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:07.040 in what I've just said is links now 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:10.080 there is a principle behind orgrom 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:12.879 which is called the zettelgasten method 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:14.239 which you can see written right there 00:02:14.239 --> 00:02:15.440 it's a german word 00:02:15.440 --> 00:02:18.000 which means a slit box if you remember 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:19.280 in old libraries 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:22.080 you had actually I believe if I scroll I 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:23.440 should have an example of this 00:02:23.440 --> 00:02:26.640 yes so this is a slip box basically in 00:02:26.640 --> 00:02:28.879 all libraries you used to have all the 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:30.560 references to the books that the library 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:31.599 used to have 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:34.720 inside those boxes and they're called 00:02:34.720 --> 00:02:36.080 slim boxes because you can 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:38.480 insert stuff into the boxes and you can 00:02:38.480 --> 00:02:41.200 remove stuff out of the boxes 00:02:41.200 --> 00:02:44.720 now basically if I try 00:02:44.720 --> 00:02:48.000 to summarize as simply as I may what the 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:49.360 zettel cast method 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:52.800 is about it's about having a way 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:56.560 to work with your notes which considers 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.920 elements of knowledge as atoms 00:02:59.920 --> 00:03:02.000 so as something that is individual like 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:04.159 a single file 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:06.640 and you consider that in order to build 00:03:06.640 --> 00:03:07.440 knowledge 00:03:07.440 --> 00:03:10.560 you have to combine atoms together so 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:11.120 that 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:14.720 when you have one atom another atom 00:03:14.720 --> 00:03:17.519 if you link them together you have a 00:03:17.519 --> 00:03:18.879 complex 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:22.000 thought or a complex molecule 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.000 okay don't quote me on the chemistry by 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:25.360 the way I shall remind you I'm an 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:26.879 english major I have no idea what I'm 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:28.239 talking about 00:03:28.239 --> 00:03:31.360 so how does it work as far as a 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:32.000 note-taking 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:35.280 system is concerned and to do so 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:37.599 I'm just going to switch really quickly 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:39.760 to my Emacs if I 00:03:39.760 --> 00:03:43.040 may so I'm just going to screenshot 00:03:43.040 --> 00:03:44.959 onto my mac just give me a second to get 00:03:44.959 --> 00:03:47.840 the windows all right 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:52.080 okay it's loading up oh no 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:54.720 I think firefox has crashed again okay 00:03:54.720 --> 00:03:56.000 so you're gonna have to give me a second 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:58.840 I need to figure this out 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:01.680 okay so everything is frozen right now 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:03.120 just to tell you so you're gonna have to 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:04.720 deal with my lovely voice 00:04:04.720 --> 00:04:06.159 uh I mean can you confirm that if I 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:07.920 switch to a new ttr you can still hear 00:04:07.920 --> 00:04:09.840 me 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.959 so can you still hear me now 00:04:12.959 --> 00:04:14.879 okay so I'm gonna have probably to kill 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:16.479 firefox and log in again 00:04:16.479 --> 00:04:18.000 so I'm sorry it's gonna cost us two 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:19.600 minutes but I'm gonna try to be as fast 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:20.560 as I can okay 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:28.560 okay no problem thanks 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:35.199 all right 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:37.520 I guess no event is a good one without 00:04:37.520 --> 00:04:39.280 one or two technical difficulties 00:04:39.280 --> 00:04:42.800 so I guess this is our share of 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.360 technical difficulties this year 00:04:45.360 --> 00:05:04.800 no problem 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:06.320 all right guess who's back it's not 00:05:06.320 --> 00:05:08.160 britney it's just me sadly so you're 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:10.800 gonna have to make do with me 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:12.880 welcome back well thank you I'm just 00:05:12.880 --> 00:05:15.520 gonna turn back on the camera if I may 00:05:15.520 --> 00:05:19.919 all righty 00:05:19.919 --> 00:05:22.400 and I'm going to make myself a presenter 00:05:22.400 --> 00:05:23.520 and I'm going to 00:05:23.520 --> 00:05:26.160 share my screen with you sleep box 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:26.880 testing 00:05:26.880 --> 00:05:29.919 hello 00:05:29.919 --> 00:05:32.720 so if my calculations are correct you 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:34.160 should be able to see my monitor right 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:34.800 now 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:38.160 um yep but not your webcam feed 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:39.919 not my webcam feed okay so I'm going to 00:05:39.919 --> 00:05:42.800 stop it 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.720 sorry for the little delay folks you 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:46.000 know it's uh 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:49.039 the show must go on can you see it now 00:05:49.039 --> 00:05:52.320 um not yet still not 00:05:52.320 --> 00:06:00.080 damn it can I stop it okay so I'm gonna 00:06:00.080 --> 00:06:04.840 yeah maybe try like sharing a webcam 00:06:04.840 --> 00:06:32.960 first 00:06:32.960 --> 00:06:36.319 all right I'm back now so I'm going to 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:37.759 share my webcam first 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:39.550 okay 00:06:39.550 --> 00:06:43.440 [Music] 00:06:43.440 --> 00:06:46.560 all righty so can you confirm whenever 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.360 you've got my webcam working 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.880 let's see I don't see it yet 00:06:52.880 --> 00:06:55.919 unfortunately oh it's loading up yeah 00:06:55.919 --> 00:06:57.120 it's coming up 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.680 yep I can see it awesome all right okay 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:01.199 we're back on track I've got still eight 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:02.880 minutes left to do so I might have to 00:07:02.880 --> 00:07:04.160 have a couple of minutes to my talk if 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.000 you don't mind and shave off some 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:07.599 questions 00:07:07.599 --> 00:07:10.800 okay do you want to share okay yeah 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.759 I'm on my way too all right all right so 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:14.639 please forget 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.240 whatever whichever technical 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.000 difficulties we might have have had for 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:18.479 the last 00:07:18.479 --> 00:07:20.240 three four minutes but we're back on 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:22.080 track now so 00:07:22.080 --> 00:07:24.960 uh orgrom what is it and how does it 00:07:24.960 --> 00:07:26.639 work so I was telling you all about 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:28.720 atoms and I was telling you about links 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:30.720 but how does it work concretely 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:32.800 so right now what you're seeing on your 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:33.840 screens 00:07:33.840 --> 00:07:37.199 is a slip box which is what we the fancy 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:38.800 word that we use to designate your 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:39.520 folder 00:07:39.520 --> 00:07:41.039 where all your notes are going to be 00:07:41.039 --> 00:07:43.280 living so you have here and I hope you 00:07:43.280 --> 00:07:44.000 can see my 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.039 uh cursor yes you can so we have a file 00:07:47.039 --> 00:07:48.199 which is called 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:51.120 index.org and the good thing is 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:52.960 as you might have garnered by the fact 00:07:52.960 --> 00:07:54.240 that it finishes by 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.039 that org is that it is just an old mod 00:07:57.039 --> 00:07:57.599 file 00:07:57.599 --> 00:08:00.800 so I can create a heading 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:03.520 I can create another heading and 00:08:03.520 --> 00:08:05.280 everything works as you would expect it 00:08:05.280 --> 00:08:05.599 to 00:08:05.599 --> 00:08:08.879 it is completely it's just an awkward 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:10.400 file at the end of the day 00:08:10.400 --> 00:08:13.759 so now what can we do with this 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:15.840 now I've told you about links and you do 00:08:15.840 --> 00:08:16.800 know that 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:19.520 org mode has links so what we're going 00:08:19.520 --> 00:08:20.080 to do 00:08:20.080 --> 00:08:22.479 is that we're going to create a new file 00:08:22.479 --> 00:08:23.440 so we're going to go back 00:08:23.440 --> 00:08:26.240 to our directory and what I'm going to 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.000 do is that we have a special commands 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:28.879 actually let me just 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.199 show you my command I might help you a 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:32.240 little bit 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:35.360 see what I'm doing uh wait which is the 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:36.479 buffer 00:08:36.479 --> 00:08:39.680 uh log mode yes exlog so now on the 00:08:39.680 --> 00:08:41.039 right side of the monitor you'll be able 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.120 to see the command that I'm using 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.040 if you don't mind in order to have as 00:08:45.040 --> 00:08:46.640 much realistic as possible I'm going to 00:08:46.640 --> 00:08:48.480 make it a little bit shorter 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:50.720 smaller I should say is it not too small 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:52.320 yeah I believe it's good 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.720 so what I'm going to do is I'm going to 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:55.760 run a command 00:08:55.760 --> 00:08:57.920 in orgrome which allows me to create a 00:08:57.920 --> 00:08:59.200 new note 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:02.320 so I'm going to use my keybinding which 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:04.720 is not this one definitely 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.800 and I'm going to create a new file which 00:09:06.800 --> 00:09:08.000 is in a 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:09.839 great tradition of examples in 00:09:09.839 --> 00:09:11.680 programming I'm going to call 00:09:11.680 --> 00:09:15.519 foo right so at the bottom 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:17.600 in the bottom buffer I should say you 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:18.720 are seeing the file 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:21.760 foo which is as you can see here a 00:09:21.760 --> 00:09:22.720 capture buffer 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.640 just like you would have in blog mode 00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:25.839 now what I'm going to do 00:09:25.839 --> 00:09:28.560 is that I'm going to validate this file 00:09:28.560 --> 00:09:29.200 and now 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.560 you see that we are in the file foo 00:09:32.560 --> 00:09:36.240 and the good thing is that I can start 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:39.440 writing without having to worry 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.160 about anything else and I was thinking I 00:09:42.160 --> 00:09:43.760 was going to say to say that I'm 00:09:43.760 --> 00:09:46.160 showing off about my typing skills but I 00:09:46.160 --> 00:09:47.680 did make mistakes so 00:09:47.680 --> 00:09:50.959 well nobody's perfect right so now we do 00:09:50.959 --> 00:09:53.760 have this view file and we're going to 00:09:53.760 --> 00:09:55.519 go back to the index so let's go back to 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:56.800 the directory 00:09:56.800 --> 00:09:58.560 we're going to refresh the file as you 00:09:58.560 --> 00:10:00.000 can see we have a file which is called 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:00.560 foo 00:10:00.560 --> 00:10:03.360 and we have the index so now what I'm 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:04.399 going to do 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:06.480 is that I'm going to insert a link to 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:07.760 this file 00:10:07.760 --> 00:10:09.920 so we're going to run another orgrim 00:10:09.920 --> 00:10:11.360 command which you can see here 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.160 orgrim inset and I'm going to insert a 00:10:14.160 --> 00:10:15.279 link to the file 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:17.279 foo and as you can see it has now 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:18.959 appeared now what I'm going to do 00:10:18.959 --> 00:10:21.920 I'm going to save the file and now I'm 00:10:21.920 --> 00:10:23.040 going to show you 00:10:23.040 --> 00:10:24.480 the little thing I told you about 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.720 backlinks before so I'm afraid I'm going 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:27.680 to have to hide 00:10:27.680 --> 00:10:29.680 the commands for now but don't worry 00:10:29.680 --> 00:10:30.880 I'll be back 00:10:30.880 --> 00:10:33.760 and I'm going to show you the side 00:10:33.760 --> 00:10:34.320 buffer 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:35.839 so it is the buffer that you see on the 00:10:35.839 --> 00:10:38.079 right side of your screen 00:10:38.079 --> 00:10:40.000 and right now it's telling you that 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.560 index does not have any backlink 00:10:42.560 --> 00:10:45.440 which is normal but if we follow the 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:46.320 link 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.200 fu now you see something different on 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:50.560 the right side so as you can see on the 00:10:50.560 --> 00:10:52.160 left side we're back insta inside the 00:10:52.160 --> 00:10:53.360 file foo 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.600 but on the right side we have something 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:56.560 showing up 00:10:56.560 --> 00:11:00.160 one backlink in the file index 00:11:00.160 --> 00:11:03.519 in under the heading heading you have 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:04.399 the file 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:07.680 sorry the link foo and you can just open 00:11:07.680 --> 00:11:08.720 the link 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:10.720 and you will be brought exactly where it 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:12.640 is so 00:11:12.640 --> 00:11:16.240 okay so that was one thing now just 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:17.600 to make sure that you've understood 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:19.360 properly I'm going to go back to the 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:20.320 index 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:23.920 I'm going to create a second file 00:11:23.920 --> 00:11:25.440 so now I'm going to use a command that 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.680 is slightly different so let me just uh 00:11:27.680 --> 00:11:30.800 show you the commands on the right 00:11:30.800 --> 00:11:32.480 I'm going to run the command orgrim 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:33.839 insert and I'm going to 00:11:33.839 --> 00:11:37.519 end to enter a file which is called bar 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.600 so again at the bottom you can see that 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:41.440 I have a new file bar 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.920 I'm going to validate this file 00:11:45.920 --> 00:11:49.760 okay I'm going to save index.org 00:11:49.760 --> 00:11:52.959 and now if we go in bar and if I show 00:11:52.959 --> 00:11:54.320 you 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:55.920 the links on the side you can see that 00:11:55.920 --> 00:11:58.240 exactly the same we have a link 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:00.480 now just to make the pictures complete 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:02.639 inside the file bar I'm going to insert 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:05.200 a link to foo I'm going to save I'm 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:06.959 going to go to the file foo and now on 00:12:06.959 --> 00:12:07.920 the right side 00:12:07.920 --> 00:12:11.120 you can see that we have two backlinks 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.839 now you're gonna tell me yeah thank you 00:12:13.839 --> 00:12:14.720 leo but 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:17.760 what's the point well the thing is 00:12:17.760 --> 00:12:20.320 it might sound it might seem very simple 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.160 but I've just shown you 00:12:22.160 --> 00:12:24.160 but programmatically it's a little hard 00:12:24.160 --> 00:12:26.160 to do like we have to 00:12:26.160 --> 00:12:28.000 look into your files to make sure that 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.079 every time you link your file 00:12:30.079 --> 00:12:32.240 somewhere else we need to track 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.079 everything down 00:12:34.079 --> 00:12:37.920 and now as simple as orgrum might be 00:12:37.920 --> 00:12:39.519 looking to you 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:42.240 the thing is what we try to do with 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:43.279 orgrum 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:45.920 is to make sure that your collection of 00:12:45.920 --> 00:12:46.399 notes 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.320 remains consistent whatever we do 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.079 an example for instance like right now 00:12:54.079 --> 00:12:56.880 I've told you about a file named foo and 00:12:56.880 --> 00:12:58.000 the file name 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.120 bar let's say that for whatever reason 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.920 you decide to rename your file foo to 00:13:03.920 --> 00:13:04.720 something 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:08.079 very original let's just say bar 00:13:08.079 --> 00:13:11.040 so we actually have a way in Emacs in 00:13:11.040 --> 00:13:12.320 orgrim I should say 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:14.560 when you modify the title at the top of 00:13:14.560 --> 00:13:15.680 the file 00:13:15.680 --> 00:13:18.880 so we get foo I've modified it with baz 00:13:18.880 --> 00:13:20.320 you can see at the bottom that right now 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:22.000 we haven't saved and we are still in the 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:22.519 file 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.079 fu.org I'm going to save 00:13:26.079 --> 00:13:29.360 and now what you see is 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.560 a new name for the file but you may ask 00:13:32.560 --> 00:13:35.360 wait a second in the other file we had a 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:36.880 link to this file 00:13:36.880 --> 00:13:38.880 does it mean that it's broken does it 00:13:38.880 --> 00:13:40.560 means does it mean sorry 00:13:40.560 --> 00:13:43.440 that we cannot access the file anymore 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:43.920 but 00:13:43.920 --> 00:13:46.959 when we go there beginning to go in the 00:13:46.959 --> 00:13:48.000 index 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.399 so obviously the actual description of 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.079 the link hasn't been updated 00:13:52.079 --> 00:13:54.320 but if I show you what goes on under the 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:55.680 hood by showing you 00:13:55.680 --> 00:13:57.440 what is fontify what is behind the 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:00.000 content of the link 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:02.320 actually it didn't work and that's why 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:04.079 you never present live folks because 00:14:04.079 --> 00:14:04.639 otherwise you're 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:05.920 just going to show problems with the 00:14:05.920 --> 00:14:08.880 software and that's not good 00:14:08.880 --> 00:14:12.079 so something must have gone on obviously 00:14:12.079 --> 00:14:15.120 but generally speaking the file should 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.120 have been updated 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:18.959 damn I'm showing you bugging my software 00:14:18.959 --> 00:14:21.279 that's not very professional now is it 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:25.040 basically to come back to the main id 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:28.079 what we try to do with orgrom is to make 00:14:28.079 --> 00:14:28.880 sure that 00:14:28.880 --> 00:14:32.639 everything remains consistent we 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:35.279 really much love the system of 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:37.360 organization that is behind this little 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:38.720 castle method 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:40.240 now I was going at this point of the 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:41.600 presentation basically I wanted to go 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:42.639 back to firefox 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:45.199 and show you more stuff but it's likely 00:14:45.199 --> 00:14:46.880 that it's going to crash again 00:14:46.880 --> 00:14:48.959 so I'm not going to tempt the devil and 00:14:48.959 --> 00:14:50.240 I'm just going to continue talking to 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:51.680 you like that 00:14:51.680 --> 00:14:54.800 so the zettelkasten method 00:14:54.800 --> 00:14:58.160 is a very organic way 00:14:58.160 --> 00:15:01.839 to write notes and if you think 00:15:01.839 --> 00:15:04.959 I I believe as all mode users 00:15:04.959 --> 00:15:06.639 we share quite a lot of features and I'm 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:08.000 out of time I'm just going to take one 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:09.600 more minute to answer this question 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:12.320 that I'm asking myself anyway but if 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:14.560 you're anything like me 00:15:14.560 --> 00:15:16.079 you've you've been through many 00:15:16.079 --> 00:15:18.240 iterations of your workflow inside of 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:18.959 mode 00:15:18.959 --> 00:15:20.959 do I keep all my professional stuff 00:15:20.959 --> 00:15:22.959 under one heading or do I create a 00:15:22.959 --> 00:15:24.399 separate file for this 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:25.920 you know those types of questions on 00:15:25.920 --> 00:15:28.000 which you could ponder for 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.639 many many hours at night generally when 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:31.360 you have a 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.560 tight deadline to be following but 00:15:34.560 --> 00:15:36.959 what I've discovered by using orgrim for 00:15:36.959 --> 00:15:38.240 taking notes about 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:40.720 my academic projects or by taking notes 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:41.360 on 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:44.880 you know anything worth writing about 00:15:44.880 --> 00:15:47.440 is that not having to worry about the 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:49.199 structure if you files 00:15:49.199 --> 00:15:52.399 just having to worry about atoms 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:56.079 and links it does wonder 00:15:56.079 --> 00:15:58.480 for the way you think about problems it 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:00.639 does wonder about your creativity 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:04.800 and it does wonder about your ability to 00:16:04.800 --> 00:16:07.519 take your thoughts put them on a paper 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:08.800 and generally you know during this 00:16:08.800 --> 00:16:10.399 process you realize oh maybe I do not 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:13.120 know this concept as well as I should 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:16.079 but I've never had a system which 00:16:16.079 --> 00:16:16.800 brought me 00:16:16.800 --> 00:16:19.839 as much serendipity as this system 00:16:19.839 --> 00:16:21.440 and for those who don't know serendipity 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.880 the ability to come up with novel ideas 00:16:24.880 --> 00:16:28.800 on the spot contextually so 00:16:28.800 --> 00:16:32.240 this was just a little primer on what 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:34.959 orgrom and the zettelkasten is about in 00:16:34.959 --> 00:16:36.000 about 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.000 20 minutes I'll be giving you a talk 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:39.680 about the technical aspects of orgrim 00:16:39.680 --> 00:16:40.800 which I'm certain 00:16:40.800 --> 00:16:43.040 some of you will be very interested in 00:16:43.040 --> 00:16:44.160 and 00:16:44.160 --> 00:16:46.160 otherwise I do have a youtube channel 00:16:46.160 --> 00:16:48.560 where I try to 00:16:48.560 --> 00:16:50.720 record videos where I explain to you 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:52.079 what the org 00:16:52.079 --> 00:16:53.839 what organ is about what the method is 00:16:53.839 --> 00:16:55.600 about and 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.040 and I'll just finish on this I'm two 00:16:57.040 --> 00:16:58.720 minutes extra time sorry 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:02.399 but um we do know that a lot of people 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.079 are interested into orgrim I mentioned 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:04.959 at the very beginning of the 00:17:04.959 --> 00:17:06.160 presentation 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:09.360 that a lot of people discovered Emacs 00:17:09.360 --> 00:17:10.640 and orgrom 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:14.640 and old mode even through orgrom 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.400 and we feel that we have a duty to 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:20.959 introduce those people this new pool of 00:17:20.959 --> 00:17:22.720 people most of whom are 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.439 academics into the world of Emacs and 00:17:25.439 --> 00:17:27.600 into the water free software 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:30.240 and right now the thing is we're not 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:32.240 doing a particularly good job at writing 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:34.080 manuals I'm just going to try 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:36.160 to stop sharing my screen because I'm 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:37.360 nearly to the end 00:17:37.360 --> 00:17:40.240 and just try sharing my firefox windows 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:41.919 if it allows me no it doesn't allow me 00:17:41.919 --> 00:17:43.120 which is very good that's why I won't 00:17:43.120 --> 00:17:44.160 have to 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:47.200 to screw things up but 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.080 uh we know that our manual is not fully 00:17:50.080 --> 00:17:50.880 up to date 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.760 but believe me one of the key focus 00:17:53.760 --> 00:17:54.480 right now 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:56.960 is making sure that within two to three 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:57.840 months 00:17:57.840 --> 00:17:59.679 we have a good tutorial for people to 00:17:59.679 --> 00:18:02.559 join and we have good videos for people 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:03.840 to get introduced to the topics we're 00:18:03.840 --> 00:18:04.640 covering 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:06.320 and that's me done so thank you so much 00:18:06.320 --> 00:18:07.679 for listening and now I'll be taking 00:18:07.679 --> 00:18:09.840 some questions 00:18:09.840 --> 00:18:12.880 thank you very much leo oh thank you 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:17.679 cheers we have I think about two minutes 00:18:17.679 --> 00:18:19.440 four questions and I see a lot of them 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:20.880 on the pad 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:23.120 would you take them sure so yep I'm 00:18:23.120 --> 00:18:24.320 scrolling I'm scrolling 00:18:24.320 --> 00:18:27.600 uh getting things done that's aldrich uh 00:18:27.600 --> 00:18:30.000 still scrolling okay olgram oh wow okay 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:31.679 so we do have quite a lot of questions 00:18:31.679 --> 00:18:33.600 so please excuse me if I'm answering 00:18:33.600 --> 00:18:34.799 your questions really fast but I just 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:35.760 want to make sure that I cover 00:18:35.760 --> 00:18:38.080 as much ground as possible so what is 00:18:38.080 --> 00:18:40.240 the functionality of all chrome unlinked 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:41.039 references 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:43.200 so basically when you have a file that 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.200 is not linked anywhere 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:48.000 this function allows you to see uh let's 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.520 say we have a file Emacs 00:18:49.520 --> 00:18:51.200 and we've talked about Emacs in another 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:53.200 note but we haven't created a link 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:57.440 what this command do is that it 00:18:57.440 --> 00:18:59.520 looks into your folder for every mention 00:18:59.520 --> 00:19:00.720 of Emacs that is not 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.840 linked to the note Emacs and it prints 00:19:03.840 --> 00:19:05.039 all the results in the buffer so that 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:06.480 you know okay I've talked about Emacs 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:07.840 here but I didn't create a link 00:19:07.840 --> 00:19:10.480 do I want to create a link that's it so 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:11.840 is it possible to use the backlinks 00:19:11.840 --> 00:19:12.480 features 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:15.039 in regular old buffers right now no it 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:16.400 is not possible we are 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:18.080 having a very controlled environment 00:19:18.080 --> 00:19:20.240 which is I told you about this clipbox 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:21.280 folder before 00:19:21.280 --> 00:19:22.799 this is where we keep all the nodes and 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:24.400 the reason why we do this will be more 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:26.080 evident when I go through the technical 00:19:26.080 --> 00:19:27.360 presentation 00:19:27.360 --> 00:19:30.720 but uh it's because of optimization 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:32.080 so I'll get back to you on that 00:19:32.080 --> 00:19:33.760 afterwards um 00:19:33.760 --> 00:19:35.440 do you make all group database 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.039 accessible across computers 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:39.760 uh no I do not because I'm only using my 00:19:39.760 --> 00:19:41.760 laptop but plenty of people have had 00:19:41.760 --> 00:19:44.559 a lot of success doing so either by 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:47.039 sharing the files via a sync thing or by 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:47.679 any other 00:19:47.679 --> 00:19:49.760 method we have a section in a manual 00:19:49.760 --> 00:19:52.400 specifying how to do this uh how do you 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:53.760 discover the tags links to add to your 00:19:53.760 --> 00:19:54.880 new algorithm note 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:56.160 there is something that I didn't tell 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.679 you about which is called orgrim server 00:19:57.679 --> 00:19:58.240 which is a 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:01.679 magnificent way to uh access 00:20:01.679 --> 00:20:04.320 visually the nodes that you have in your 00:20:04.320 --> 00:20:05.360 in your system 00:20:05.360 --> 00:20:07.840 you'll have to go to the orgrom.com 00:20:07.840 --> 00:20:08.799 website 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:10.640 and please go on our github page and we 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:12.080 show everything and 00:20:12.080 --> 00:20:14.640 um I hope what I've told you has excited 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:16.000 you so please go 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:18.000 uh maybe one more question two more 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:20.080 questions just to make sure uh is it 00:20:20.080 --> 00:20:21.679 possible to seamlessly link to other 00:20:21.679 --> 00:20:23.039 notes with syntax instead of a 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:23.919 keybinding 00:20:23.919 --> 00:20:25.840 yes we are working on this this is a 00:20:25.840 --> 00:20:27.120 huge project that we're doing with 00:20:27.120 --> 00:20:28.880 orgrim which is called uh 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:30.960 link ux and we're trying to do something 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:32.880 which is very close to rome research 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:34.559 which is the software we're using for 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:36.880 inspiration for orgrom 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:39.200 and uh yes there's there are going to be 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.280 ways to do this in the future I'm going 00:20:41.280 --> 00:20:42.640 to give you a window of 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:45.280 maybe three to four months and one last 00:20:45.280 --> 00:20:46.320 question 00:20:46.320 --> 00:20:48.480 uh good on you thank you well thank you 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:49.440 for for this 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:51.039 is there an easy way to export several 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.200 selected nodes to say a lattice file 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.960 latex yes uh I mean it's old mode 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.840 at the very core it is org mode so you 00:20:59.840 --> 00:21:00.480 know you don't 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:02.559 if you want to export to latex file you 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:04.000 can you just use the 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.320 aux latex library which you can access 00:21:06.320 --> 00:21:08.320 by pressing ctrl c ctrl 00:21:08.320 --> 00:21:11.760 e for export all right is it uh I 00:21:11.760 --> 00:21:12.480 believe I'm 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:13.919 it's all the time I had I mean can you 00:21:13.919 --> 00:21:16.880 confirm this 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.039 okay so if you have more questions don't 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:20.240 worry I'll be in chat 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:23.679 I'll be answering them uh I'm also on on 00:21:23.679 --> 00:21:26.799 all the platforms we advertise on on 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:28.159 orgram if you want to reach me I'm 00:21:28.159 --> 00:21:29.280 really easy to reach 00:21:29.280 --> 00:21:31.919 our gita page is always open so thank 00:21:31.919 --> 00:21:32.559 you all for 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:35.520 all your questions and all your energy 00:21:35.520 --> 00:21:37.440 about orgrim it is very exciting for me 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:38.640 to to see all this 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:42.000 but right now I'll be ending off the 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.080 microphone I should say to nura who is 00:21:44.080 --> 00:21:45.840 going to talk to you about the 00:21:45.840 --> 00:21:48.480 academic way to use orgrom and I'll be 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.080 back afterwards with the technical talk 00:21:50.080 --> 00:21:53.760 okay thank you thank you very much leo 00:21:53.760 --> 00:21:57.760 see you later guys