0:00:00.000,0:00:03.919 I'm hoping to keep this talk in the 15 0:00:02.480,0:00:05.279 minutes and I'll take five minutes of 0:00:03.919,0:00:07.520 question at the end 0:00:05.279,0:00:09.200 so hello again I suppose you're starting 0:00:07.520,0:00:10.719 to get pretty familiar with me and my 0:00:09.200,0:00:12.480 start right now so 0:00:10.719,0:00:14.719 right now we're getting into the nitty 0:00:12.480,0:00:17.039 gritty we started today 0:00:14.719,0:00:18.480 I told you about how I'd ventured from 0:00:17.039,0:00:20.800 being a user 0:00:18.480,0:00:22.080 to being a maintainer and right now I'm 0:00:20.800,0:00:24.240 going to get the chance to 0:00:22.080,0:00:25.279 actually tell you more about the project 0:00:24.240,0:00:28.480 that I'm maintaining 0:00:25.279,0:00:30.560 which is called org rome 0:00:28.480,0:00:32.320 so even if I it would have had a better 0:00:30.560,0:00:33.840 impact if I'd 0:00:32.320,0:00:35.520 didn't scroll the page but you know 0:00:33.840,0:00:37.120 sadly I'm out of tea 0:00:35.520,0:00:39.600 it's getting late in europe and I'm 0:00:37.120,0:00:43.360 starting to get tired 0:00:39.600,0:00:46.160 so what I'm gonna do during this talk 0:00:43.360,0:00:48.079 is just to do real survey for people who 0:00:46.160,0:00:50.480 do not know what orgrom is about 0:00:48.079,0:00:52.320 some of you might might have you know 0:00:50.480,0:00:54.879 whilst browsing reddit 0:00:52.320,0:00:56.480 found a topic about orgrom and thought 0:00:54.879,0:00:57.199 to yourself oh that looks interesting 0:00:56.480,0:00:59.680 but 0:00:57.199,0:01:01.039 you know I have my own workflow and I 0:00:59.680,0:01:03.199 get it don't need to change anything 0:01:01.039,0:01:05.680 about it you know I'm completely fine 0:01:03.199,0:01:07.520 using my very very large file or I'm 0:01:05.680,0:01:10.960 completely fine having my 0:01:07.520,0:01:14.560 database of notes which is I've been 0:01:10.960,0:01:17.759 accruing for like 10 20 30 years or so 0:01:14.560,0:01:20.080 so what I want to do during this talk 0:01:17.759,0:01:20.960 is both to present to you what orgrom is 0:01:20.080,0:01:23.439 about 0:01:20.960,0:01:24.000 if you are in this group of people who 0:01:23.439,0:01:25.600 do not 0:01:24.000,0:01:27.520 know what algorithm is about but would 0:01:25.600,0:01:30.560 like to know more but 0:01:27.520,0:01:33.360 also for people who have close to no 0:01:30.560,0:01:35.040 experience with Emacs and org mode and 0:01:33.360,0:01:36.880 was just found their way you know they 0:01:35.040,0:01:39.840 wanted to find the system to 0:01:36.880,0:01:41.439 write their notes basically and you know 0:01:39.840,0:01:42.960 they discovered this little tool which 0:01:41.439,0:01:44.479 is called orgrome 0:01:42.960,0:01:46.240 and they'd like to know more about this 0:01:44.479,0:01:49.360 so I've got 13 0:01:46.240,0:01:53.360 minutes to convince you to use hologram 0:01:49.360,0:01:56.799 so if we go in a very broad strokes 0:01:53.360,0:01:59.759 what is orgram orgrom 0:01:56.799,0:02:00.320 is a way for you to manage backlinks 0:01:59.759,0:02:03.439 inside 0:02:00.320,0:02:07.040 old mode and the keyword 0:02:03.439,0:02:10.080 in what I've just said is links now 0:02:07.040,0:02:12.879 there is a principle behind orgrom 0:02:10.080,0:02:14.239 which is called the zettelgasten method 0:02:12.879,0:02:15.440 which you can see written right there 0:02:14.239,0:02:18.000 it's a german word 0:02:15.440,0:02:19.280 which means a slit box if you remember 0:02:18.000,0:02:22.080 in old libraries 0:02:19.280,0:02:23.440 you had actually I believe if I scroll I 0:02:22.080,0:02:26.640 should have an example of this 0:02:23.440,0:02:28.879 yes so this is a slip box basically in 0:02:26.640,0:02:30.560 all libraries you used to have all the 0:02:28.879,0:02:31.599 references to the books that the library 0:02:30.560,0:02:34.720 used to have 0:02:31.599,0:02:36.080 inside those boxes and they're called 0:02:34.720,0:02:38.480 slim boxes because you can 0:02:36.080,0:02:41.200 insert stuff into the boxes and you can 0:02:38.480,0:02:44.720 remove stuff out of the boxes 0:02:41.200,0:02:48.000 now basically if I try 0:02:44.720,0:02:49.360 to summarize as simply as I may what the 0:02:48.000,0:02:52.800 zettel cast method 0:02:49.360,0:02:56.560 is about it's about having a way 0:02:52.800,0:02:59.920 to work with your notes which considers 0:02:56.560,0:03:02.000 elements of knowledge as atoms 0:02:59.920,0:03:04.159 so as something that is individual like 0:03:02.000,0:03:06.640 a single file 0:03:04.159,0:03:07.440 and you consider that in order to build 0:03:06.640,0:03:10.560 knowledge 0:03:07.440,0:03:11.120 you have to combine atoms together so 0:03:10.560,0:03:14.720 that 0:03:11.120,0:03:17.519 when you have one atom another atom 0:03:14.720,0:03:18.879 if you link them together you have a 0:03:17.519,0:03:22.000 complex 0:03:18.879,0:03:24.000 thought or a complex molecule 0:03:22.000,0:03:25.360 okay don't quote me on the chemistry by 0:03:24.000,0:03:26.879 the way I shall remind you I'm an 0:03:25.360,0:03:28.239 english major I have no idea what I'm 0:03:26.879,0:03:31.360 talking about 0:03:28.239,0:03:32.000 so how does it work as far as a 0:03:31.360,0:03:35.280 note-taking 0:03:32.000,0:03:37.599 system is concerned and to do so 0:03:35.280,0:03:39.760 I'm just going to switch really quickly 0:03:37.599,0:03:43.040 to my Emacs if I 0:03:39.760,0:03:44.959 may so I'm just going to screenshot 0:03:43.040,0:03:47.840 onto my mac just give me a second to get 0:03:44.959,0:03:52.080 the windows all right 0:03:47.840,0:03:54.720 okay it's loading up oh no 0:03:52.080,0:03:56.000 I think firefox has crashed again okay 0:03:54.720,0:03:58.840 so you're gonna have to give me a second 0:03:56.000,0:04:01.680 I need to figure this out 0:03:58.840,0:04:03.120 okay so everything is frozen right now 0:04:01.680,0:04:04.720 just to tell you so you're gonna have to 0:04:03.120,0:04:06.159 deal with my lovely voice 0:04:04.720,0:04:07.920 uh I mean can you confirm that if I 0:04:06.159,0:04:09.840 switch to a new ttr you can still hear 0:04:07.920,0:04:12.959 me 0:04:09.840,0:04:14.879 so can you still hear me now 0:04:12.959,0:04:16.479 okay so I'm gonna have probably to kill 0:04:14.879,0:04:18.000 firefox and log in again 0:04:16.479,0:04:19.600 so I'm sorry it's gonna cost us two 0:04:18.000,0:04:20.560 minutes but I'm gonna try to be as fast 0:04:19.600,0:04:28.560 as I can okay 0:04:20.560,0:04:31.040 okay no problem thanks 0:04:28.560,0:04:31.040 all right 0:04:35.199,0:04:39.280 I guess no event is a good one without 0:04:37.520,0:04:42.800 one or two technical difficulties 0:04:39.280,0:04:45.360 so I guess this is our share of 0:04:42.800,0:04:57.840 technical difficulties this year 0:04:45.360,0:04:57.840 no problem 0:05:04.800,0:05:08.160 all right guess who's back it's not 0:05:06.320,0:05:10.800 britney it's just me sadly so you're 0:05:08.160,0:05:12.880 gonna have to make do with me 0:05:10.800,0:05:15.520 welcome back well thank you I'm just 0:05:12.880,0:05:18.320 gonna turn back on the camera if I may 0:05:15.520,0:05:18.320 all righty 0:05:19.919,0:05:23.520 and I'm going to make myself a presenter 0:05:22.400,0:05:26.160 and I'm going to 0:05:23.520,0:05:26.880 share my screen with you sleep box 0:05:26.160,0:05:29.360 testing 0:05:26.880,0:05:29.360 hello 0:05:29.919,0:05:34.160 so if my calculations are correct you 0:05:32.720,0:05:34.800 should be able to see my monitor right 0:05:34.160,0:05:38.160 now 0:05:34.800,0:05:39.919 um yep but not your webcam feed 0:05:38.160,0:05:42.320 not my webcam feed okay so I'm going to 0:05:39.919,0:05:42.320 stop it 0:05:42.800,0:05:46.000 sorry for the little delay folks you 0:05:44.720,0:05:49.039 know it's uh 0:05:46.000,0:05:52.320 the show must go on can you see it now 0:05:49.039,0:05:58.000 um not yet still not 0:05:52.320,0:05:58.000 damn it can I stop it okay so I'm gonna 0:06:00.080,0:06:07.840 yeah maybe try like sharing a webcam 0:06:04.840,0:06:07.840 first 0:06:32.960,0:06:37.759 all right I'm back now so I'm going to 0:06:36.319,0:06:39.550 share my webcam first 0:06:37.759,0:06:43.440 okay 0:06:39.550,0:06:46.560 [Music] 0:06:43.440,0:06:49.360 all righty so can you confirm whenever 0:06:46.560,0:06:52.880 you've got my webcam working 0:06:49.360,0:06:55.919 let's see I don't see it yet 0:06:52.880,0:06:57.120 unfortunately oh it's loading up yeah 0:06:55.919,0:06:59.680 it's coming up 0:06:57.120,0:07:01.199 yep I can see it awesome all right okay 0:06:59.680,0:07:02.880 we're back on track I've got still eight 0:07:01.199,0:07:04.160 minutes left to do so I might have to 0:07:02.880,0:07:06.000 have a couple of minutes to my talk if 0:07:04.160,0:07:07.599 you don't mind and shave off some 0:07:06.000,0:07:10.800 questions 0:07:07.599,0:07:13.759 okay do you want to share okay yeah 0:07:10.800,0:07:14.639 I'm on my way too all right all right so 0:07:13.759,0:07:16.240 please forget 0:07:14.639,0:07:18.000 whatever whichever technical 0:07:16.240,0:07:18.479 difficulties we might have have had for 0:07:18.000,0:07:20.240 the last 0:07:18.479,0:07:22.080 three four minutes but we're back on 0:07:20.240,0:07:24.960 track now so 0:07:22.080,0:07:26.639 uh orgrom what is it and how does it 0:07:24.960,0:07:28.720 work so I was telling you all about 0:07:26.639,0:07:30.720 atoms and I was telling you about links 0:07:28.720,0:07:32.800 but how does it work concretely 0:07:30.720,0:07:33.840 so right now what you're seeing on your 0:07:32.800,0:07:37.199 screens 0:07:33.840,0:07:38.800 is a slip box which is what we the fancy 0:07:37.199,0:07:39.520 word that we use to designate your 0:07:38.800,0:07:41.039 folder 0:07:39.520,0:07:43.280 where all your notes are going to be 0:07:41.039,0:07:44.000 living so you have here and I hope you 0:07:43.280,0:07:47.039 can see my 0:07:44.000,0:07:48.199 uh cursor yes you can so we have a file 0:07:47.039,0:07:51.120 which is called 0:07:48.199,0:07:52.960 index.org and the good thing is 0:07:51.120,0:07:54.240 as you might have garnered by the fact 0:07:52.960,0:07:57.039 that it finishes by 0:07:54.240,0:07:57.599 that org is that it is just an old mod 0:07:57.039,0:08:00.800 file 0:07:57.599,0:08:03.520 so I can create a heading 0:08:00.800,0:08:05.280 I can create another heading and 0:08:03.520,0:08:05.599 everything works as you would expect it 0:08:05.280,0:08:08.879 to 0:08:05.599,0:08:10.400 it is completely it's just an awkward 0:08:08.879,0:08:13.759 file at the end of the day 0:08:10.400,0:08:15.840 so now what can we do with this 0:08:13.759,0:08:16.800 now I've told you about links and you do 0:08:15.840,0:08:19.520 know that 0:08:16.800,0:08:20.080 org mode has links so what we're going 0:08:19.520,0:08:22.479 to do 0:08:20.080,0:08:23.440 is that we're going to create a new file 0:08:22.479,0:08:26.240 so we're going to go back 0:08:23.440,0:08:28.000 to our directory and what I'm going to 0:08:26.240,0:08:28.879 do is that we have a special commands 0:08:28.000,0:08:31.199 actually let me just 0:08:28.879,0:08:32.240 show you my command I might help you a 0:08:31.199,0:08:35.360 little bit 0:08:32.240,0:08:36.479 see what I'm doing uh wait which is the 0:08:35.360,0:08:39.680 buffer 0:08:36.479,0:08:41.039 uh log mode yes exlog so now on the 0:08:39.680,0:08:43.120 right side of the monitor you'll be able 0:08:41.039,0:08:45.040 to see the command that I'm using 0:08:43.120,0:08:46.640 if you don't mind in order to have as 0:08:45.040,0:08:48.480 much realistic as possible I'm going to 0:08:46.640,0:08:50.720 make it a little bit shorter 0:08:48.480,0:08:52.320 smaller I should say is it not too small 0:08:50.720,0:08:54.720 yeah I believe it's good 0:08:52.320,0:08:55.760 so what I'm going to do is I'm going to 0:08:54.720,0:08:57.920 run a command 0:08:55.760,0:08:59.200 in orgrome which allows me to create a 0:08:57.920,0:09:02.320 new note 0:08:59.200,0:09:04.720 so I'm going to use my keybinding which 0:09:02.320,0:09:06.800 is not this one definitely 0:09:04.720,0:09:08.000 and I'm going to create a new file which 0:09:06.800,0:09:09.839 is in a 0:09:08.000,0:09:11.680 great tradition of examples in 0:09:09.839,0:09:15.519 programming I'm going to call 0:09:11.680,0:09:17.600 foo right so at the bottom 0:09:15.519,0:09:18.720 in the bottom buffer I should say you 0:09:17.600,0:09:21.760 are seeing the file 0:09:18.720,0:09:22.720 foo which is as you can see here a 0:09:21.760,0:09:24.640 capture buffer 0:09:22.720,0:09:25.839 just like you would have in blog mode 0:09:24.640,0:09:28.560 now what I'm going to do 0:09:25.839,0:09:29.200 is that I'm going to validate this file 0:09:28.560,0:09:32.560 and now 0:09:29.200,0:09:36.240 you see that we are in the file foo 0:09:32.560,0:09:39.440 and the good thing is that I can start 0:09:36.240,0:09:42.160 writing without having to worry 0:09:39.440,0:09:43.760 about anything else and I was thinking I 0:09:42.160,0:09:46.160 was going to say to say that I'm 0:09:43.760,0:09:47.680 showing off about my typing skills but I 0:09:46.160,0:09:50.959 did make mistakes so 0:09:47.680,0:09:53.760 well nobody's perfect right so now we do 0:09:50.959,0:09:55.519 have this view file and we're going to 0:09:53.760,0:09:56.800 go back to the index so let's go back to 0:09:55.519,0:09:58.560 the directory 0:09:56.800,0:10:00.000 we're going to refresh the file as you 0:09:58.560,0:10:00.560 can see we have a file which is called 0:10:00.000,0:10:03.360 foo 0:10:00.560,0:10:04.399 and we have the index so now what I'm 0:10:03.360,0:10:06.480 going to do 0:10:04.399,0:10:07.760 is that I'm going to insert a link to 0:10:06.480,0:10:09.920 this file 0:10:07.760,0:10:11.360 so we're going to run another orgrim 0:10:09.920,0:10:14.160 command which you can see here 0:10:11.360,0:10:15.279 orgrim inset and I'm going to insert a 0:10:14.160,0:10:17.279 link to the file 0:10:15.279,0:10:18.959 foo and as you can see it has now 0:10:17.279,0:10:21.920 appeared now what I'm going to do 0:10:18.959,0:10:23.040 I'm going to save the file and now I'm 0:10:21.920,0:10:24.480 going to show you 0:10:23.040,0:10:26.720 the little thing I told you about 0:10:24.480,0:10:27.680 backlinks before so I'm afraid I'm going 0:10:26.720,0:10:29.680 to have to hide 0:10:27.680,0:10:30.880 the commands for now but don't worry 0:10:29.680,0:10:33.760 I'll be back 0:10:30.880,0:10:34.320 and I'm going to show you the side 0:10:33.760,0:10:35.839 buffer 0:10:34.320,0:10:38.079 so it is the buffer that you see on the 0:10:35.839,0:10:40.000 right side of your screen 0:10:38.079,0:10:42.560 and right now it's telling you that 0:10:40.000,0:10:45.440 index does not have any backlink 0:10:42.560,0:10:46.320 which is normal but if we follow the 0:10:45.440,0:10:49.200 link 0:10:46.320,0:10:50.560 fu now you see something different on 0:10:49.200,0:10:52.160 the right side so as you can see on the 0:10:50.560,0:10:53.360 left side we're back insta inside the 0:10:52.160,0:10:55.600 file foo 0:10:53.360,0:10:56.560 but on the right side we have something 0:10:55.600,0:11:00.160 showing up 0:10:56.560,0:11:03.519 one backlink in the file index 0:11:00.160,0:11:04.399 in under the heading heading you have 0:11:03.519,0:11:07.680 the file 0:11:04.399,0:11:08.720 sorry the link foo and you can just open 0:11:07.680,0:11:10.720 the link 0:11:08.720,0:11:12.640 and you will be brought exactly where it 0:11:10.720,0:11:16.240 is so 0:11:12.640,0:11:17.600 okay so that was one thing now just 0:11:16.240,0:11:19.360 to make sure that you've understood 0:11:17.600,0:11:20.320 properly I'm going to go back to the 0:11:19.360,0:11:23.920 index 0:11:20.320,0:11:25.440 I'm going to create a second file 0:11:23.920,0:11:27.680 so now I'm going to use a command that 0:11:25.440,0:11:30.800 is slightly different so let me just uh 0:11:27.680,0:11:32.480 show you the commands on the right 0:11:30.800,0:11:33.839 I'm going to run the command orgrim 0:11:32.480,0:11:37.519 insert and I'm going to 0:11:33.839,0:11:39.600 end to enter a file which is called bar 0:11:37.519,0:11:41.440 so again at the bottom you can see that 0:11:39.600,0:11:45.920 I have a new file bar 0:11:41.440,0:11:49.760 I'm going to validate this file 0:11:45.920,0:11:52.959 okay I'm going to save index.org 0:11:49.760,0:11:54.320 and now if we go in bar and if I show 0:11:52.959,0:11:55.920 you 0:11:54.320,0:11:58.240 the links on the side you can see that 0:11:55.920,0:12:00.480 exactly the same we have a link 0:11:58.240,0:12:02.639 now just to make the pictures complete 0:12:00.480,0:12:05.200 inside the file bar I'm going to insert 0:12:02.639,0:12:06.959 a link to foo I'm going to save I'm 0:12:05.200,0:12:07.920 going to go to the file foo and now on 0:12:06.959,0:12:11.120 the right side 0:12:07.920,0:12:13.839 you can see that we have two backlinks 0:12:11.120,0:12:14.720 now you're gonna tell me yeah thank you 0:12:13.839,0:12:17.760 leo but 0:12:14.720,0:12:20.320 what's the point well the thing is 0:12:17.760,0:12:22.160 it might sound it might seem very simple 0:12:20.320,0:12:24.160 but I've just shown you 0:12:22.160,0:12:26.160 but programmatically it's a little hard 0:12:24.160,0:12:28.000 to do like we have to 0:12:26.160,0:12:30.079 look into your files to make sure that 0:12:28.000,0:12:32.240 every time you link your file 0:12:30.079,0:12:34.079 somewhere else we need to track 0:12:32.240,0:12:37.920 everything down 0:12:34.079,0:12:39.519 and now as simple as orgrum might be 0:12:37.920,0:12:42.240 looking to you 0:12:39.519,0:12:43.279 the thing is what we try to do with 0:12:42.240,0:12:45.920 orgrum 0:12:43.279,0:12:46.399 is to make sure that your collection of 0:12:45.920,0:12:50.320 notes 0:12:46.399,0:12:54.079 remains consistent whatever we do 0:12:50.320,0:12:56.880 an example for instance like right now 0:12:54.079,0:12:58.000 I've told you about a file named foo and 0:12:56.880,0:13:01.120 the file name 0:12:58.000,0:13:03.920 bar let's say that for whatever reason 0:13:01.120,0:13:04.720 you decide to rename your file foo to 0:13:03.920,0:13:08.079 something 0:13:04.720,0:13:11.040 very original let's just say bar 0:13:08.079,0:13:12.320 so we actually have a way in Emacs in 0:13:11.040,0:13:14.560 orgrim I should say 0:13:12.320,0:13:15.680 when you modify the title at the top of 0:13:14.560,0:13:18.880 the file 0:13:15.680,0:13:20.320 so we get foo I've modified it with baz 0:13:18.880,0:13:22.000 you can see at the bottom that right now 0:13:20.320,0:13:22.519 we haven't saved and we are still in the 0:13:22.000,0:13:26.079 file 0:13:22.519,0:13:29.360 fu.org I'm going to save 0:13:26.079,0:13:32.560 and now what you see is 0:13:29.360,0:13:35.360 a new name for the file but you may ask 0:13:32.560,0:13:36.880 wait a second in the other file we had a 0:13:35.360,0:13:38.880 link to this file 0:13:36.880,0:13:40.560 does it mean that it's broken does it 0:13:38.880,0:13:43.440 means does it mean sorry 0:13:40.560,0:13:43.920 that we cannot access the file anymore 0:13:43.440,0:13:46.959 but 0:13:43.920,0:13:48.000 when we go there beginning to go in the 0:13:46.959,0:13:50.399 index 0:13:48.000,0:13:52.079 so obviously the actual description of 0:13:50.399,0:13:54.320 the link hasn't been updated 0:13:52.079,0:13:55.680 but if I show you what goes on under the 0:13:54.320,0:13:57.440 hood by showing you 0:13:55.680,0:14:00.000 what is fontify what is behind the 0:13:57.440,0:14:02.320 content of the link 0:14:00.000,0:14:04.079 actually it didn't work and that's why 0:14:02.320,0:14:04.639 you never present live folks because 0:14:04.079,0:14:05.920 otherwise you're 0:14:04.639,0:14:08.880 just going to show problems with the 0:14:05.920,0:14:12.079 software and that's not good 0:14:08.880,0:14:15.120 so something must have gone on obviously 0:14:12.079,0:14:17.120 but generally speaking the file should 0:14:15.120,0:14:18.959 have been updated 0:14:17.120,0:14:21.279 damn I'm showing you bugging my software 0:14:18.959,0:14:25.040 that's not very professional now is it 0:14:21.279,0:14:28.079 basically to come back to the main id 0:14:25.040,0:14:28.880 what we try to do with orgrom is to make 0:14:28.079,0:14:32.639 sure that 0:14:28.880,0:14:35.279 everything remains consistent we 0:14:32.639,0:14:37.360 really much love the system of 0:14:35.279,0:14:38.720 organization that is behind this little 0:14:37.360,0:14:40.240 castle method 0:14:38.720,0:14:41.600 now I was going at this point of the 0:14:40.240,0:14:42.639 presentation basically I wanted to go 0:14:41.600,0:14:45.199 back to firefox 0:14:42.639,0:14:46.880 and show you more stuff but it's likely 0:14:45.199,0:14:48.959 that it's going to crash again 0:14:46.880,0:14:50.240 so I'm not going to tempt the devil and 0:14:48.959,0:14:51.680 I'm just going to continue talking to 0:14:50.240,0:14:54.800 you like that 0:14:51.680,0:14:58.160 so the zettelkasten method 0:14:54.800,0:15:01.839 is a very organic way 0:14:58.160,0:15:04.959 to write notes and if you think 0:15:01.839,0:15:06.639 I I believe as all mode users 0:15:04.959,0:15:08.000 we share quite a lot of features and I'm 0:15:06.639,0:15:09.600 out of time I'm just going to take one 0:15:08.000,0:15:12.320 more minute to answer this question 0:15:09.600,0:15:14.560 that I'm asking myself anyway but if 0:15:12.320,0:15:16.079 you're anything like me 0:15:14.560,0:15:18.240 you've you've been through many 0:15:16.079,0:15:18.959 iterations of your workflow inside of 0:15:18.240,0:15:20.959 mode 0:15:18.959,0:15:22.959 do I keep all my professional stuff 0:15:20.959,0:15:24.399 under one heading or do I create a 0:15:22.959,0:15:25.920 separate file for this 0:15:24.399,0:15:28.000 you know those types of questions on 0:15:25.920,0:15:30.639 which you could ponder for 0:15:28.000,0:15:31.360 many many hours at night generally when 0:15:30.639,0:15:34.560 you have a 0:15:31.360,0:15:36.959 tight deadline to be following but 0:15:34.560,0:15:38.240 what I've discovered by using orgrim for 0:15:36.959,0:15:40.720 taking notes about 0:15:38.240,0:15:41.360 my academic projects or by taking notes 0:15:40.720,0:15:44.880 on 0:15:41.360,0:15:47.440 you know anything worth writing about 0:15:44.880,0:15:49.199 is that not having to worry about the 0:15:47.440,0:15:52.399 structure if you files 0:15:49.199,0:15:56.079 just having to worry about atoms 0:15:52.399,0:15:58.480 and links it does wonder 0:15:56.079,0:16:00.639 for the way you think about problems it 0:15:58.480,0:16:04.800 does wonder about your creativity 0:16:00.639,0:16:07.519 and it does wonder about your ability to 0:16:04.800,0:16:08.800 take your thoughts put them on a paper 0:16:07.519,0:16:10.399 and generally you know during this 0:16:08.800,0:16:13.120 process you realize oh maybe I do not 0:16:10.399,0:16:16.079 know this concept as well as I should 0:16:13.120,0:16:16.800 but I've never had a system which 0:16:16.079,0:16:19.839 brought me 0:16:16.800,0:16:21.440 as much serendipity as this system 0:16:19.839,0:16:24.880 and for those who don't know serendipity 0:16:21.440,0:16:28.800 the ability to come up with novel ideas 0:16:24.880,0:16:32.240 on the spot contextually so 0:16:28.800,0:16:34.959 this was just a little primer on what 0:16:32.240,0:16:36.000 orgrom and the zettelkasten is about in 0:16:34.959,0:16:38.000 about 0:16:36.000,0:16:39.680 20 minutes I'll be giving you a talk 0:16:38.000,0:16:40.800 about the technical aspects of orgrim 0:16:39.680,0:16:43.040 which I'm certain 0:16:40.800,0:16:44.160 some of you will be very interested in 0:16:43.040,0:16:46.160 and 0:16:44.160,0:16:48.560 otherwise I do have a youtube channel 0:16:46.160,0:16:50.720 where I try to 0:16:48.560,0:16:52.079 record videos where I explain to you 0:16:50.720,0:16:53.839 what the org 0:16:52.079,0:16:55.600 what organ is about what the method is 0:16:53.839,0:16:57.040 about and 0:16:55.600,0:16:58.720 and I'll just finish on this I'm two 0:16:57.040,0:17:02.399 minutes extra time sorry 0:16:58.720,0:17:04.079 but um we do know that a lot of people 0:17:02.399,0:17:04.959 are interested into orgrim I mentioned 0:17:04.079,0:17:06.160 at the very beginning of the 0:17:04.959,0:17:09.360 presentation 0:17:06.160,0:17:10.640 that a lot of people discovered Emacs 0:17:09.360,0:17:14.640 and orgrom 0:17:10.640,0:17:18.400 and old mode even through orgrom 0:17:14.640,0:17:20.959 and we feel that we have a duty to 0:17:18.400,0:17:22.720 introduce those people this new pool of 0:17:20.959,0:17:25.439 people most of whom are 0:17:22.720,0:17:27.600 academics into the world of Emacs and 0:17:25.439,0:17:30.240 into the water free software 0:17:27.600,0:17:32.240 and right now the thing is we're not 0:17:30.240,0:17:34.080 doing a particularly good job at writing 0:17:32.240,0:17:36.160 manuals I'm just going to try 0:17:34.080,0:17:37.360 to stop sharing my screen because I'm 0:17:36.160,0:17:40.240 nearly to the end 0:17:37.360,0:17:41.919 and just try sharing my firefox windows 0:17:40.240,0:17:43.120 if it allows me no it doesn't allow me 0:17:41.919,0:17:44.160 which is very good that's why I won't 0:17:43.120,0:17:47.200 have to 0:17:44.160,0:17:50.080 to screw things up but 0:17:47.200,0:17:50.880 uh we know that our manual is not fully 0:17:50.080,0:17:53.760 up to date 0:17:50.880,0:17:54.480 but believe me one of the key focus 0:17:53.760,0:17:56.960 right now 0:17:54.480,0:17:57.840 is making sure that within two to three 0:17:56.960,0:17:59.679 months 0:17:57.840,0:18:02.559 we have a good tutorial for people to 0:17:59.679,0:18:03.840 join and we have good videos for people 0:18:02.559,0:18:04.640 to get introduced to the topics we're 0:18:03.840,0:18:06.320 covering 0:18:04.640,0:18:07.679 and that's me done so thank you so much 0:18:06.320,0:18:09.840 for listening and now I'll be taking 0:18:07.679,0:18:12.880 some questions 0:18:09.840,0:18:17.679 thank you very much leo oh thank you 0:18:12.880,0:18:19.440 cheers we have I think about two minutes 0:18:17.679,0:18:20.880 four questions and I see a lot of them 0:18:19.440,0:18:23.120 on the pad 0:18:20.880,0:18:24.320 would you take them sure so yep I'm 0:18:23.120,0:18:27.600 scrolling I'm scrolling 0:18:24.320,0:18:30.000 uh getting things done that's aldrich uh 0:18:27.600,0:18:31.679 still scrolling okay olgram oh wow okay 0:18:30.000,0:18:33.600 so we do have quite a lot of questions 0:18:31.679,0:18:34.799 so please excuse me if I'm answering 0:18:33.600,0:18:35.760 your questions really fast but I just 0:18:34.799,0:18:38.080 want to make sure that I cover 0:18:35.760,0:18:40.240 as much ground as possible so what is 0:18:38.080,0:18:41.039 the functionality of all chrome unlinked 0:18:40.240,0:18:43.200 references 0:18:41.039,0:18:45.200 so basically when you have a file that 0:18:43.200,0:18:48.000 is not linked anywhere 0:18:45.200,0:18:49.520 this function allows you to see uh let's 0:18:48.000,0:18:51.200 say we have a file Emacs 0:18:49.520,0:18:53.200 and we've talked about Emacs in another 0:18:51.200,0:18:57.440 note but we haven't created a link 0:18:53.200,0:18:59.520 what this command do is that it 0:18:57.440,0:19:00.720 looks into your folder for every mention 0:18:59.520,0:19:03.840 of Emacs that is not 0:19:00.720,0:19:05.039 linked to the note Emacs and it prints 0:19:03.840,0:19:06.480 all the results in the buffer so that 0:19:05.039,0:19:07.840 you know okay I've talked about Emacs 0:19:06.480,0:19:10.480 here but I didn't create a link 0:19:07.840,0:19:11.840 do I want to create a link that's it so 0:19:10.480,0:19:12.480 is it possible to use the backlinks 0:19:11.840,0:19:15.039 features 0:19:12.480,0:19:16.400 in regular old buffers right now no it 0:19:15.039,0:19:18.080 is not possible we are 0:19:16.400,0:19:20.240 having a very controlled environment 0:19:18.080,0:19:21.280 which is I told you about this clipbox 0:19:20.240,0:19:22.799 folder before 0:19:21.280,0:19:24.400 this is where we keep all the nodes and 0:19:22.799,0:19:26.080 the reason why we do this will be more 0:19:24.400,0:19:27.360 evident when I go through the technical 0:19:26.080,0:19:30.720 presentation 0:19:27.360,0:19:32.080 but uh it's because of optimization 0:19:30.720,0:19:33.760 so I'll get back to you on that 0:19:32.080,0:19:35.440 afterwards um 0:19:33.760,0:19:37.039 do you make all group database 0:19:35.440,0:19:39.760 accessible across computers 0:19:37.039,0:19:41.760 uh no I do not because I'm only using my 0:19:39.760,0:19:44.559 laptop but plenty of people have had 0:19:41.760,0:19:47.039 a lot of success doing so either by 0:19:44.559,0:19:47.679 sharing the files via a sync thing or by 0:19:47.039,0:19:49.760 any other 0:19:47.679,0:19:52.400 method we have a section in a manual 0:19:49.760,0:19:53.760 specifying how to do this uh how do you 0:19:52.400,0:19:54.880 discover the tags links to add to your 0:19:53.760,0:19:56.160 new algorithm note 0:19:54.880,0:19:57.679 there is something that I didn't tell 0:19:56.160,0:19:58.240 you about which is called orgrim server 0:19:57.679,0:20:01.679 which is a 0:19:58.240,0:20:04.320 magnificent way to uh access 0:20:01.679,0:20:05.360 visually the nodes that you have in your 0:20:04.320,0:20:07.840 in your system 0:20:05.360,0:20:08.799 you'll have to go to the orgrom.com 0:20:07.840,0:20:10.640 website 0:20:08.799,0:20:12.080 and please go on our github page and we 0:20:10.640,0:20:14.640 show everything and 0:20:12.080,0:20:16.000 um I hope what I've told you has excited 0:20:14.640,0:20:18.000 you so please go 0:20:16.000,0:20:20.080 uh maybe one more question two more 0:20:18.000,0:20:21.679 questions just to make sure uh is it 0:20:20.080,0:20:23.039 possible to seamlessly link to other 0:20:21.679,0:20:23.919 notes with syntax instead of a 0:20:23.039,0:20:25.840 keybinding 0:20:23.919,0:20:27.120 yes we are working on this this is a 0:20:25.840,0:20:28.880 huge project that we're doing with 0:20:27.120,0:20:30.960 orgrim which is called uh 0:20:28.880,0:20:32.880 link ux and we're trying to do something 0:20:30.960,0:20:34.559 which is very close to rome research 0:20:32.880,0:20:36.880 which is the software we're using for 0:20:34.559,0:20:39.200 inspiration for orgrom 0:20:36.880,0:20:41.280 and uh yes there's there are going to be 0:20:39.200,0:20:42.640 ways to do this in the future I'm going 0:20:41.280,0:20:45.280 to give you a window of 0:20:42.640,0:20:46.320 maybe three to four months and one last 0:20:45.280,0:20:48.480 question 0:20:46.320,0:20:49.440 uh good on you thank you well thank you 0:20:48.480,0:20:51.039 for for this 0:20:49.440,0:20:53.200 is there an easy way to export several 0:20:51.039,0:20:56.960 selected nodes to say a lattice file 0:20:53.200,0:20:59.840 latex yes uh I mean it's old mode 0:20:56.960,0:21:00.480 at the very core it is org mode so you 0:20:59.840,0:21:02.559 know you don't 0:21:00.480,0:21:04.000 if you want to export to latex file you 0:21:02.559,0:21:06.320 can you just use the 0:21:04.000,0:21:08.320 aux latex library which you can access 0:21:06.320,0:21:11.760 by pressing ctrl c ctrl 0:21:08.320,0:21:12.480 e for export all right is it uh I 0:21:11.760,0:21:13.919 believe I'm 0:21:12.480,0:21:16.880 it's all the time I had I mean can you 0:21:13.919,0:21:19.039 confirm this 0:21:16.880,0:21:20.240 okay so if you have more questions don't 0:21:19.039,0:21:23.679 worry I'll be in chat 0:21:20.240,0:21:26.799 I'll be answering them uh I'm also on on 0:21:23.679,0:21:28.159 all the platforms we advertise on on 0:21:26.799,0:21:29.280 orgram if you want to reach me I'm 0:21:28.159,0:21:31.919 really easy to reach 0:21:29.280,0:21:32.559 our gita page is always open so thank 0:21:31.919,0:21:35.520 you all for 0:21:32.559,0:21:37.440 all your questions and all your energy 0:21:35.520,0:21:38.640 about orgrim it is very exciting for me 0:21:37.440,0:21:42.000 to to see all this 0:21:38.640,0:21:44.080 but right now I'll be ending off the 0:21:42.000,0:21:45.840 microphone I should say to nura who is 0:21:44.080,0:21:48.480 going to talk to you about the 0:21:45.840,0:21:50.080 academic way to use orgrom and I'll be 0:21:48.480,0:21:53.760 back afterwards with the technical talk 0:21:50.080,0:21:57.760 okay thank you thank you very much leo 0:21:53.760,0:21:57.760 see you later guys