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for the list of questions in whatever

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order you like

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okay so I see what package is used um

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probably cemex mode

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um right so the main package that was

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being demoed

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um that is not yet on melpa in fact I

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haven't even decided on a name for it

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um I've alternately alternately called

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it epistemic mode I've called it

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um england I called it uh

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all kinds of things but at the moment

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you can find it on my github there's a

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link

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in the presentation itself if you go to

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github slash account about

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um the package there it's currently

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named indra

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I'm not sure um

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packages actually yes the second one is

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red that was the name that I selected um

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last night um and that's because it

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might that

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there's a concept in tibetan buddhism

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that seems like it might have something

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to do with

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the kinds of concepts we're talking

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about with this package so I just

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thought it would be a good name for it

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so you can look up that concept

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and get a sense of it on wikipedia

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next question is how to deal with dwarak

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dwarjak or however that's pronounced

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this is always bug me

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is there an x-mod map mode so the thing

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with this is it's kind of surprising but

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although vim

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was originally developed um you know

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with the idea of

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the key bindings being on the home rule

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it turns out that that is actually not a

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major aspect

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of the vim editing experience so

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people who use the dvorak layout

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actually end up using the same keys as

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they do on the normal qwerty layout so

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they don't remap anything

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because the uh the the sort of

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the power that vim or the the

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flexibility the

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spiral that bim enables on qwerty layout

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keyboards is exactly

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preserved even on a door jack keyboard

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even though you your

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fingers are not in the same positions

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it's not a big deal actually

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um and then I mostly use default model

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provided by vanilla Emacs and work and

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org mode for text editing can you give

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me some examples

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of how the user can use the concept of

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mode mode

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to do some interesting

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um so probably the main thing would be

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the

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the keystrokes would be less uh

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contrived

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so they the the fewer modes you have

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the more modifiers you need

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in order to um do whatever it is that

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you're trying to do because you've got

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essentially with a max model you've got

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a completely flat

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keyboard structure and so all of the

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different things that you might

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want to express are all mapped to a flat

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keyboard uh set of keys

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so with um with this kind of

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modal structure the more modes you have

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the more the individual keystrokes

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become

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shorter and shorter so that could be one

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benefit that would be provided

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with many modes your keystrokes would

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generally

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be a single keystroke long for even

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relatively complex tasks

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because you're setting the context

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beforehand

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so you already say oh I'm going to be

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talking about this org buffer

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agenda and then

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um the all the keystrokes that you do at

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that point would be in relation to that

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um okay I think we have time for like

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one more short question

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one more short question okay let's see

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how do new modes come into existence you

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can make them yourself

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um and you can specify them in Emacs

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lisp

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if you like but there's also simple you

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can also do it visually as we did

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um but the yeah defining them

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is essentially built on top of hydra but

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it could also be built on top of evil or

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any other modal interface provider

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there's an abstraction layer

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okay thank you so much for your talk and

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for the live q a

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sure thank you yes feel free to um take

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up the rest of the questions either via

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irc or

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on the pad on on your own time off the

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stream

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perfect yeah I'll go ahead and put in

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some answers there

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awesome thank you all right thank you

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have a good one

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thanks you too