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okay awesome okay

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so first question what does bard beaver

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max mean good question

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um in one version of my talk I spent too

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long explaining it

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and decided to cut it out um

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it's basically a bad pun on uh

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band camp so like a

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beevock I don't even know if I'm

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pronouncing that correctly it's like

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a tent or a camp that you put up hastily

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and a bard is a musician of course so

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uh yeah I don't know I like puns I'm a

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dad

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and uh that's the best I could come up

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with um

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I'll probably find a different name for

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it but I liked that bewak

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if you stick an m in there it becomes

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vivomax

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and it's kind of like editor macros for

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generating some

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generating some html

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okay yes it is confusing chatting on irc

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at the same time

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um great question grant yeah

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um so right now you're sharing your

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screen um are you planning on like

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showing something with it or for example

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should I maximize you I don't know

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I can turn it off for now okay

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you can turn on the webcam yeah okay

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yeah I'll maximize your

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webcam okay thanks um

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I'll get to the answer for my color

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theme here in a bit

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in irc next question on

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the ether pad does this metadata

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workflow also support

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unsynchronized lyrics within id3 tags

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multi-line metadata

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I don't know um actually

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it's funny because I was trying out

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different things with metadata

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and really the biggest thing was to

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figure out how to do mass tag editing

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and that was like

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not it wasn't very intuitive like I said

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with emms

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I think emms is really great but its

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interface is huge

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like if you do meta x and type emms you

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get

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I don't know 270 some candidates

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there's a lot of functions going on I

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basically found the

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features that I needed to get this

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workflow working

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I would guess that you probably can do

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it and if you don't

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if you can't do it out of the box I

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think you could script the mms to do

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that

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I'd like to know more and I'm certainly

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going to be

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investigating it I will try and post my

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findings somewhere online

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is it possible to import batch metadata

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I'm not sure I would guess

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yes is the answer emms can connect to

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like metadata services I haven't done

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that because I was just

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using audio files that I created myself

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I know that on the back end it calls out

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to

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shell programs for tagging things

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there's a lot of different options that

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can

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shell out too I was using the

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the vorbis tools to tag the particular

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files I was working with

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you can also use tiny tag and there's

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some other

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that might be the python library I can't

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remember there's two other libraries

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that I can shell out too for

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doing metadata

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my current workflow for tagging music is

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to first apply replay gain in fubar 2000

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fix egregious mistakes use beats to

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apply metadata from music brains

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or discogs go over remaining albums with

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fubar 2000 again

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is there a chance textual tagging could

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allow doing it all in one program

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have I experimented with mask tag

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updates queries I have not

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again I was just doing this workflow

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taking raw files with no tags and doing

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that

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I believe because it calls out to

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the programs in the back end I'm sure

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you could work that out

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and I think emms would benefit from

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having something like that because

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we work with text and Emacs being able

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to to use Emacs as a front end for those

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updates would be really fantastic so

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really it's just a matter of

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writing the interface to the external

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tool

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is there a link to some info expanding

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philosophy of how to compensate

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musicians um

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no I don't really have a lot of

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philosophy around that I guess the first

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thing I could say would be

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something like a universal income I feel

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like that would solve a lot of problems

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if musicians could just be musicians and

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not have to worry about their pay I will

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think about it more

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um this is kind of one of my first

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forays into being getting

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public with some of these ideas so I

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will try to do more

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and let the community know what Emacs

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theme am I using

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can't remember it's one of the cowlin

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themes k-a-o-l-I-n

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I think it was aurora or

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or bubble gum maybe but the

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cowlin themes are nice I recommend them

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not using doomy max do mode line though

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it's very pretty svg support built into

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Emacs

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I'm using Emacs 27.1 and yes svg support

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is built in

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I may have had to compile it with some

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cairo support

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I don't remember for sure

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but yes you can even take screenshots of

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your Emacs

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from within Emacs in svg

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it's pretty great okay um

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I don't know how much more time we have

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left for questions

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that's most of the things on the ether

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pad

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I think we have like 10 more minutes to

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catch up with like the schedule

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okay yes or if there are more questions

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feel free to answer them

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okay I'll start kind of looking through

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irc

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and keep an eye on the pad too

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thank thank you all for um listening and

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for

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enjoying the talk I'm glad it turned out

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well

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awesome yeah it's been fun

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so far

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how did I manage okay um I can post a

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snippet of that or actually I can share

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my screen can't I

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okay I actually have it up right here so

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I think I got this from alpha papa to be

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honest

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um so I define screenshot

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svg um

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it's an interactive command oh yeah

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there's alpha papa

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okay there we go

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I would like to change this so that I

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can get it into

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like the copy paste buffer so I don't

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have to

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copy the file in but uh I haven't really

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hacked on it yet

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okay um org header colors

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okay so that might be a good question I

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know

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the presentation

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uh sorry it's hard to think and type at

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the same time

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think and talk and type

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okay so the presentation is just a

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normal

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um org file right so I have my headers

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and my

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and the author you can even stick your

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email and other headers in there

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but there's a package called org tree

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slide

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which I whoops why is it not

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um I must have not required it good

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question grant

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yeah um can you try sharing your screen

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maybe

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oh is it not shared I'm sorry boards

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thank you

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there we go should be coming up

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see yeah it's coming up yep we see it

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awesome

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all right okay I don't know why this

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isn't working

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it was working

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[Applause]

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okay you want to see the screenshot

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whoops okay I just took a screenshot

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um so org tree slide

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I don't know why it's not launching I

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thought that I had required it but I

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must not have

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maybe I'll try

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okay

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so there we go so org tree slide is a

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way that basically uses

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narrowing and some kind of font tricks

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to

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it changes your titles or your your

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metadata into

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kind of this banner for the title here

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and it automatically sets the faces for

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you I know you can

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customize that of course and then as you

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go through the org file you get these

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kind of nice animations and

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what's it called breadcrumbs up at the

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top

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so org tree slide I highly recommend it

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it's really nice because you can give

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your presentation

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and practice it and while you're

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practicing it you can edit things as

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well because it's still just

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an org document using narrowing you know

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it doesn't

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actually change anything um so

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definitely recommend org tree slide mode

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okay let's see what else

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share my screen to demo oh that's the

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svg

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let's see

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okay so I don't know if you can see this

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now but I'm actually viewing the svg

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screenshot that I took with Emacs

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see here's the source of it so Emacs

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made that

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and here's the image and

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it's cool because you can even do it

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again and again and

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open more screenshots of screenshots

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yeah definitely emac exception

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fun stuff

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anything else in chat or

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header colors oh yeah I talked about the

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themes this is another cowlin theme

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I think the one in the talk was

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maybe this one aurora

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oh here's there's something funny when

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you start org tree slide with a

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different theme

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this top header bar gets the faces from

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that previous theme and I have not

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figured out how to fix that yet

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did I have to compile to get the

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screenshot I think maybe I did

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yes if I'm remembering correctly

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I got Emacs 27 I'm not on a mac

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I saw alpha papa's comment on reddit and

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then

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um I recompiled it with cairo support

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yes

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okay lots of good conversation on here

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yep I have like one or two more minutes

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okay

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um I guess while I'm here I might as

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well say thank you to

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the organizers uh I really appreciate

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everybody's work on this

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it's fun to be a part of this community

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I'm enjoying the other talks I've seen

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so far today and I'm looking forward to

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to the rest

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um it's really interesting just from

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being on Emacs in irc

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for a few months I've already connected

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with a lot of interesting people

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and have a lot of cool connections

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already

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thank you for being a part of the

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community grant

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that's good to be here I have another

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talk tomorrow as well

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oh thanks for everyone in the ether pad

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2 for putting more comments on these

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questions here

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and taking the notes

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ok so I think that's about all the time

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that we have for the q

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a okay um thank you again so much grant

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for your awesome talk and for popping in

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for questions

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yeah thanks again for hosting see you

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later cheers