From 43f4e4aa8c71a1625c04f92877f48f839d4e0e48 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: temene Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 10:54:27 +0100 Subject: answered unanswered questions and formatted one answer section where it wasn't clear where my answers were --- 2021/talks/pattern.md | 31 ++++++++++++++++--------------- 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-) diff --git a/2021/talks/pattern.md b/2021/talks/pattern.md index e63d390e..8218699d 100644 --- a/2021/talks/pattern.md +++ b/2021/talks/pattern.md @@ -58,11 +58,11 @@ Pad: - also check out: Gabriel, R. (1996). Patterns of software: tales from the software community. New York: Oxford University Press. - ( + () - Alexander, C. (1993). *A foreshadowing of 21st century art: The color and geometry of very early Turkish carpets*. New York: Oxford University Press. - - A: + - A: The peer answer is excellent. If you are looking for an 'entryway' into Alexander, there is also his essay A City Is Not A Tree, . - Q2: You are making a great case for the ease-of-use, humanizing, and empowering aspects of Emacs, but how does this align with the initial difficulty for many users in learning Emacs? What is the @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ Pad: let them convert others in their midst :) - Q6: Are there ways to reach out to you after the conference to dig deeper here? - - A: gretzuni.com + - A: I blog at ; my professional site is ,https://gretagoetz.com>. - Q7:On the mention of emacs being 'frontierless': Doesn't this result in a kind of 'characterless' or 'non-definied' space? For example, if I learn a musical instrument, I am bound by various @@ -136,10 +136,10 @@ Pad: for defining/demarcating the self (of course, within a boundary there can be endless play, but the limits set the 'rules' for play, and therefore create meaning).Thanks again! - - Wow - a fellow hermeneuticist?!  + - A: Wow - a fellow hermeneuticist?!  - Haha, yes. In my past life I studied it ;) also studied a lot of Stiegler too, so was interested to find him in the talk! - - That is quite uncanny! The combination of the three (plus Emacs) + - A: That is quite uncanny! The combination of the three (plus Emacs) have given me a whole new perspective on life - and I wonder why Stiegler didn't pursue Free Software more, though he does nod to it here and there. Do you have any work to share, would you @@ -152,7 +152,7 @@ Pad: (especially since hermeneutics is so underappreciated/underreppresented! so, I always get excited to hear others talking about it ;) - - Yes, I know what you are talking about and actually the whole + - A: Yes, I know what you are talking about and actually the whole future - and present - of academe is an interesting question - haha that I think is related to Emacs, I mean, we do live in the knowledge age so we need tools to help with this. Ricoeur has a @@ -170,6 +170,7 @@ Pad: he had in mind with Xandadu; well, with the limitation that org-roam only serves Personal Information Management, not our civilisations' as he intended with Xanadu. + - A: That's an interesting point - and related to how org-roam writer Leo is now extending org-roam to collaborative work as he explains in his talk . - Yes! the feeling is mutual :) I really love Ricoeur's general style and approach to questions. Unfortunately he didn't write much about technology itself, which made my job quite difficult! @@ -181,7 +182,7 @@ Pad: computers (with writing being a core activity of the self for Ricoeur). Also, I just wish I had emacs instead of just writing so many academic papers in microsoft word!  - - Ha! Yes, the moment of being freed from that software box and + - A: Yes, the moment of being freed from that software box and having all the LaTeX options in Emacs (here, I list my fave) is like stepping into technicolor out of black and white - to this day, I still feel that way! So much you wrote is interesting. @@ -195,16 +196,16 @@ Pad: - wow, yes, that is so interesting. I never considered the question of desire and emacs until your talk, and it was definitely one of the most interesting parts! - -  In my work I was also mostly interested in Freud (the role of + In my work I was also mostly interested in Freud (the role of 'technique' in psychoanalysis) and also Foucault's later lectures on hermeneutics of the self/technologies of the self. The angle of 'desire' in relation to personal configuration/design was so interesting to me and like an 'aha' moment. I'll definitely be thinking about it more! Thank you so much again for the talk and all the responses! - - Thank you too, and hope we'll be in touch! + - A: Thank you too, and hope we'll be in touch! - Yes :) enjoy the rest of the conference! - - Likewise :) + - A: Likewise :) - Q8: What was that Crichton quote? That was neat! (From the references - Crichton, M. (1983). *Electronic life*. New York: Knopf.) @@ -212,17 +213,17 @@ Pad: - Q9: Greta, you seem to be an academic researcher. Any of your publications or other good references on this topic that you can share/link here? -- I hate linking to DOIs, but here are two: +- Here are two: - A song of teaching with free software in the Anthropocene -- DOI 10.1007/s42438-020-00188-3 The Odyssey of Pedagogies of - Technoscientific Literacies +- The odyssey of pedagogies of + technoscientific literacies **Links and other notes:** - Design Pattern: macro solution; human-centered - Emacs is a design pattern for learning. -- Why we care about design patterns? +- Why do we care about design patterns? - Emacs as a mental map. - Everyone's Emacs is their own. - The development of the Emacs communitiy is similar to the [free] @@ -235,7 +236,7 @@ IRC: - if I may ask, what's the little toy figure in the background, looks nice :D - A wooden (fake) Transformer :) - do you think emacs could have implemented with this design pattern, but in another programming language? - + - Emacs Lisp as a dialect of Lisp shares its philosophical qualities. I often think about what Norvig wrote about Lisp back in the day, e.g. , and while there are some people who feel strongly that Lisp's time is passed, I think that Emacs shows that it is the opposite: that we haven't fully taken advantage of Lisp's potential. Another example would be what Rick Hickey has done with Clojure, and recommend his talk Are We There Yet, . Feedback: - That's a great point about the sketches, and why Emacs graphical improvements are important. -- cgit v1.2.3 From 0849c82a0df2502176d3315e77a46400363738f1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: temene Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 10:57:16 +0100 Subject: missing punctuation --- 2021/talks/pattern.md | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/2021/talks/pattern.md b/2021/talks/pattern.md index 8218699d..f27f15b2 100644 --- a/2021/talks/pattern.md +++ b/2021/talks/pattern.md @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ Pad: let them convert others in their midst :) - Q6: Are there ways to reach out to you after the conference to dig deeper here? - - A: I blog at ; my professional site is ,https://gretagoetz.com>. + - A: I blog at ; my professional site is . - Q7:On the mention of emacs being 'frontierless': Doesn't this result in a kind of 'characterless' or 'non-definied' space? For example, if I learn a musical instrument, I am bound by various -- cgit v1.2.3 From 7b2410750554d3dc0497fbb05a874a968e9fabf3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: temene Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 11:01:30 +0100 Subject: two more tiny formatting details fixed --- 2021/talks/pattern.md | 5 +++-- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/2021/talks/pattern.md b/2021/talks/pattern.md index f27f15b2..36dec9f2 100644 --- a/2021/talks/pattern.md +++ b/2021/talks/pattern.md @@ -169,7 +169,7 @@ Pad: this context. I think org-roam, in many ways, resembles what he had in mind with Xandadu; well, with the limitation that org-roam only serves Personal Information Management, not - our civilisations' as he intended with Xanadu. + our civilisations' as he intended with Xanadu._ - A: That's an interesting point - and related to how org-roam writer Leo is now extending org-roam to collaborative work as he explains in his talk . - Yes! the feeling is mutual :) I really love Ricoeur's general style and approach to questions. Unfortunately he didn't write @@ -236,7 +236,8 @@ IRC: - if I may ask, what's the little toy figure in the background, looks nice :D - A wooden (fake) Transformer :) - do you think emacs could have implemented with this design pattern, but in another programming language? - - Emacs Lisp as a dialect of Lisp shares its philosophical qualities. I often think about what Norvig wrote about Lisp back in the day, e.g. , and while there are some people who feel strongly that Lisp's time is passed, I think that Emacs shows that it is the opposite: that we haven't fully taken advantage of Lisp's potential. Another example would be what Rick Hickey has done with Clojure, and recommend his talk Are We There Yet, . + - Emacs Lisp as a dialect of Lisp shares its philosophical qualities. I often think about what Norvig wrote about Lisp back in the day, e.g. , and while there are some people who feel strongly that Lisp's time is passed, I think that Emacs shows that it is the opposite: that we haven't fully taken advantage of Lisp's potential. Another example would be what Rick Hickey has done with Clojure, and recommend his talk Are We There Yet, . + Feedback: - That's a great point about the sketches, and why Emacs graphical improvements are important. -- cgit v1.2.3 From 170d83ab312789a0215164cab12b50129409df2b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: temene Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 11:04:40 +0100 Subject: indent fix --- 2021/talks/pattern.md | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/2021/talks/pattern.md b/2021/talks/pattern.md index 36dec9f2..86df043a 100644 --- a/2021/talks/pattern.md +++ b/2021/talks/pattern.md @@ -169,8 +169,8 @@ Pad: this context. I think org-roam, in many ways, resembles what he had in mind with Xandadu; well, with the limitation that org-roam only serves Personal Information Management, not - our civilisations' as he intended with Xanadu._ - - A: That's an interesting point - and related to how org-roam writer Leo is now extending org-roam to collaborative work as he explains in his talk . + our civilisations' as he intended with Xanadu. + - A: That's an interesting point - and related to how org-roam writer Leo is now extending org-roam to collaborative work as he explains in his talk . - Yes! the feeling is mutual :) I really love Ricoeur's general style and approach to questions. Unfortunately he didn't write much about technology itself, which made my job quite difficult! -- cgit v1.2.3