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From: Sacha Chua <sacha@sachachua.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 10:50:39 -0500
Subject: Update

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+Hello, everyone. My name is
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+Laszlo Krajnikovszkij,
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+and today I would like to share
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+some ideas about extending
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+the model of Emacs to other applications.
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+Brief introduction of myself:
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+I am from Budapest, Hungary;
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+and I have a background
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+in Financial Economics,
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+but by occupation I run
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+a software development company
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+where I mostly do product management.
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+I try to do most of my work from Emacs.
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+I've been using it for the past
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+two or three years
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+as a computer science hobby
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+and this fascinating piece of software
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+taught me a lot of different concepts
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+about software architecture
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+and programming languages,
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+and also raised a lot of
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+philosophical questions
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+about human-computer interaction.
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+I've been mostly using it
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+for organizing my personal information,
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+writing notes and tracking my agenda,
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+but occasionally, I've also used it
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+for reading and writing code
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+and for also reading news, email,
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+and browsing the web.
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+What do I mean by the 'model' of Emacs?
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+For me, the 'model' of Emacs is about
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+the interaction model.
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+And it's not... Emacs is just a tool
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+for interacting with the computer.
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+It's sort of a universal interface
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+that allows for consistency
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+across different apps,
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+because everything is brought down to
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+an Emacs buffer, which is a
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+text-oriented interface,
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+but that can have consistent
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+keybinding scheme,
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+they have consistent color scheme,
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+and consistent workflow in general.
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+Also, Emacs has a lot of functionality
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+and utilizes mnemonic key bindings
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+for calling functions,
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+which is much more powerful than
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+navigating contextual menus
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+with a pointer,
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+because the functions that are
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+repeated the most
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+are then ingrained in the muscle memory,
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+therefore reducing the lag
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+between the thought that is occurring
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+in your mind, and its reflection
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+on your computer screen.
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+And also, Emacs provides
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+a huge number of packages
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+that can all be inspected and modified,
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+and extended, and recombined,
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+and just provides the best-possible
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+malleable system experience
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+that can potentially lead to
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+almost any desired setup
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+for the end-user.
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+So, Emacs is great,
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+but I need to use a lot of
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+different other tools
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+to collaborate with my coworkers,
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+with my clients and vendors.
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+On a normal day, I would need to be
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+switching between five to six
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+different web applications
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+and chat applications.
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+They all have the same flaws.
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+They all lack customizability,
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+because it was never intended
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+by the original developers of the app
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+that the end user can tinker
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+with the product they're creating.
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+But also, those apps are cloud-based,
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+and usually not very good for privacy,
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+and this also creates limitations
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+for offline-based workflows,
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+or for in general not relying on
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+the internet connection
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+to use something.
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+All these applications,
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+they create a situation
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+when there's a lot of context-switching
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+between different apps,
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+and this context-switching
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+comes from different color schemes,
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+different workflows in general
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+for different apps.
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+So, there is always
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+this little frame of time
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+where you need to orient yourself
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+in this other application.
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+Of course, over time,
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+it gets more automated,
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+but still, this context switching
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+is very bad for productivity.
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+These apps don't support very well
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+the keyboard-driven workflows,
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+because the default set of keybindings
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+is always limited,
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+and you always need to resort to
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+mouse-driven workflows.
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+But Emacs has some issues
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+as a tool for work as well.
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+First of all, it lacks integration
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+with all these tools,
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+so I constantly need to be switching
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+between Emacs and these applications,
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+or basically, my web browser.
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+Emacs is very good for text input
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+and for editing text,
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+but it's not always perfect
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+for reading information
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+from an Emacs buffer,
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+because it doesn't
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+render images and HTML properly.
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+Also, Emacs lacks performance
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+under heavy load,
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+so when you try to run
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+too many things in parallel,
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+the single-threaded nature of Emacs
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+just makes it hang.
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+For this reason,
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+I wouldn't rely on Emacs
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+to take care of all my system processes.
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+And of course, it has some
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+legacy UI limitations
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+being a software that was written
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+40 years ago.
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+This results in a very limited usability
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+on mobile and other touch devices.
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+I've been thinking
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+about a hybrid approach
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+that you could still use Emacs
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+as a core of your life,
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+and then extend it
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+with adjacent web applications
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+where Emacs can be used
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+as a text processing backend
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+and use Org mode files
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+as a universal format
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+for converting textual data,
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+and then If emacs can be
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+connected with those applications
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+that I mentioned
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+a couple of slides before
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+through their API, and you can have
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+a two-way communication between them,
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+and just export in JSON, let's say,
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+and then convert to Org mode,
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+and then use the Org mode
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+for these local web apps.
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+Then you can use Emacs for editing,
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+and Org mode, but then you can use
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+this adjacent web application
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+for viewing information,
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+making small edits, and in general,
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+possibly have an enhanced
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+user-defined UI that is
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+directly connected to Emacs.
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+Emacs Application Framework
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+is a project that tries to achieve
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+a common goal, but it tries to
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+achieve that through
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+displaying everything
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+in the Emacs buffer,
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+whereas I'm thinking
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+if it can be displayed
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+in any web browser, but utilize
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+Emacs Application Framework API
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+as a bridge between Elisp
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+and Python and Javascript,
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+so you can use
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+the modern front-end frameworks
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+to create those web interfaces easier
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+and connect them
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+with Emacs functionality.
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+These user-controlled web apps
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+would basically result in
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+the user connecting
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+to this external cloud-based tool,
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+let's say Asana, but then
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+process everything through Org mode
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+and then display in an Org mode file
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+or display in this enhanced way
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+through the adjacent local web app,
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+a front-end for which
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+could be written in any .js framework
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+for front-end development.
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+I encourage everyone in the community
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+who is interested in similar questions
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+to share their opinion
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+about the potential risks and drawbacks,
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+about any other ways
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+to achieve a similar goal,
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+if anyone else is doing this already
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+that i might not know about,
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+and in general, just share ideas
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+about what else can be done
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+to integrate Emacs with more stuff
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+and how Emacs can become
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+more approachable by non-technical users
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+because I would love to see
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+more people using Emacs, to be honest.
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+Yeah. Thank you very much
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+for listening to this talk.
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+I will be taking questions
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+and feedback in the pad
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+after the conference.
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+You can reach me through this email
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+laszlo@laszlo.is .
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+I'll be posting
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+some more detailed articles
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+and description of this idea
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+that I was trying to present today.
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+[captions by Laszlo]
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