From ff518d86cf4eabbcb1603596d836ce28cee7367b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Sacha Chua Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2025 21:23:56 -0500 Subject: updates --- ...red-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--answers.vtt | 95 +++++++++++++--------- 1 file changed, 56 insertions(+), 39 deletions(-) (limited to '2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--answers.vtt') diff --git a/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--answers.vtt b/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--answers.vtt index eaf3a04e..2ebd9ecf 100644 --- a/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--answers.vtt +++ b/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--answers.vtt @@ -1,5 +1,7 @@ WEBVTT +NOTE Opening + 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.599 Recording started. @@ -37,7 +39,7 @@ if you check out the etherpad, you'll see some instructions there to join on Lambda Moo, 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:43.039 -which screwless, +with screwlisp, 00:00:43.040 --> 00:00:46.319 but I'm hoping you will talk to us a little bit about that @@ -58,7 +60,7 @@ but he has in fact appeared on an episode of it in January this year, I think. 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:04.919 -So he was just pretending there. I'm screwless of this. +So he was just pretending there. I'm screwlisp of this. 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:06.919 What's happening? @@ -94,17 +96,19 @@ with people like Ed Swarthout, DM, and yduJ, who I gossiped about in the show, 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:50.519 -and Sasha, and people were there a little bit as well. +and Sacha, and people were there a little bit as well. 00:01:50.520 --> 00:01:53.359 I'm just going to read some of the questions 00:01:53.360 --> 00:01:59.759 -that GGXX in Lambdomoo has been relaying to me there, +that ggxx in LambdaMOO has been relaying to me there, 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:08.239 though I hear that there are a whole bunch of them now. +NOTE Q: What do you mean by "the agent is running slowly"? + 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:09.759 Someone asks on the Etherpad, @@ -130,10 +134,10 @@ So this is quite different to what people might expect within AI 00:02:28.600 --> 00:02:30.679 -if people are talking about like the graphics card ones +if people are talking about, like the graphics card ones 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:33.599 -where you're trying crunch as fast as you can +where you try and crunch as fast as you can, 00:02:33.600 --> 00:02:36.399 for as few seconds as you can, and then you stop. @@ -160,7 +164,9 @@ it still adds up to a lot. So that was the significance of it running slowly. 00:02:57.040 --> 00:03:00.639 -What else are people saying? TGXX to screwtape. +What else are people saying? ggxx to screwtape. + +NOTE Q: Do you think that it would be too hard to add a second way to send commands from Common Lisp to Emacs? 00:03:00.640 --> 00:03:02.519 Someone asked on the Etherpad, @@ -184,7 +190,7 @@ and I didn't talk about it because this is a kind of affected choice. 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:20.039 -Right now you're using Emacs client for that. +Right now you're using emacsclient for that. 00:03:20.040 --> 00:03:22.039 That is the simplest way to implement. @@ -202,19 +208,19 @@ So, in everyone that's SLIME-connected. So, earlier on, you saw somebody 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:35.399 -running a SWANK server in Python. +running a swank server in Python. 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.439 -Normally, you run a SWANK server in Common Lisp. +Normally, you run a swank server in Common Lisp. 00:03:38.440 --> 00:03:41.599 -And a SWANK server is what Emacs SLIME, +And a swank server is what Emacs SLIME, 00:03:41.600 --> 00:03:45.039 Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs, connects to. 00:03:45.040 --> 00:03:49.039 -And then Swank comes with Swank Eval and Emacs. +And then Swank comes with swank-eval in Emacs. 00:03:49.040 --> 00:03:50.959 So after you've been slime connected, @@ -223,7 +229,7 @@ So after you've been slime connected, you can trivially send Emacs Lisp forms to Emacs 00:03:55.040 --> 00:03:57.319 -using Swank Eval and Emacs. +using swank-eval and Emacs. 00:03:57.320 --> 00:04:00.679 The reason that I chose to use @@ -259,7 +265,7 @@ I guess it's executing a program rather than using a shell. 00:04:36.440 --> 00:04:40.639 -And Yeah, I was letting somebody else +And yeah, I was letting somebody else 00:04:40.640 --> 00:04:42.439 use Slime eval in Emacs. @@ -280,7 +286,7 @@ out of adding Emacs server into the mix. What's somebody saying? 00:04:57.320 --> 00:05:00.319 -Idaj is weirded out by doing get foo bar +yduJ is weirded out by doing get foo bar 00:05:00.320 --> 00:05:02.439 instead of get foo quote bar. @@ -304,7 +310,7 @@ and then ignores them in certain expressions, and he doesn't have these Lisp-style quotes. 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:22.439 -Idaj is obviously from like Schlumberger +yduJ is obviously from like Schlumberger 00:05:22.440 --> 00:05:24.879 and wherever else she was at in @@ -316,7 +322,7 @@ in the kind of list of traditions. Full of Spain is saying good observation. 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:33.839 -Yidaj is shocked that she's being mentioned. +yduJ is shocked that she's being mentioned. 00:05:33.840 --> 00:05:40.519 Interestingly Nosredna yduJ capitalizes Nosredna at the front, @@ -331,31 +337,31 @@ You should read her Stanford page or her recipe site or anything if you're not clear on who yduJ is. 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:00.679 -It's actually you're looking for the word eclipsed. +Sacha, you're looking for the word ??. 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.559 -I think she eclipsed a dodge, +I think she ?? yduJ, 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:06.119 I think is the English phrase that you're looking for. 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:08.839 -He does just saying she would not. +yduJ is saying she would not, 00:06:08.840 --> 00:06:10.519 -She's no matter what I say +no matter what I say, 00:06:10.520 --> 00:06:13.039 she's not going to hug my software agent 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:20.719 -like she would hug a grandchild eyes me warily. +like she would hug a grandchild. Eyes me warily. 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:22.119 -And Sasha is not going to. +And Sacha is not going to... 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:24.759 -Totally not training a general intelligence +totally training a general intelligence 00:06:24.760 --> 00:06:26.199 who requires a lot of data @@ -375,6 +381,8 @@ saying that he wanted machine intelligences 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:37.759 to be like his grandchild. +NOTE Q: What is the leonardo system? + 00:06:37.760 --> 00:06:40.839 GGXX is saying somebody on Etherpad @@ -483,14 +491,17 @@ where we're all hanging out. 00:08:36.640 --> 00:08:43.559 Oh, I think GGXX is ordering people up things. -00:08:43.560 --> 00:08:46.399 +00:08:43.560 --> 00:08:49.539 You know, just teach people about this. -00:08:46.400 --> 00:08:52.279 +00:08:49.540 --> 00:08:50.958 All right, I'm going to try looking -00:08:52.280 --> 00:08:55.519 -at the etherpad manually. Sorry, I can read you. +00:08:50.959 --> 00:08:54.129 +at the etherpad manually. + +00:08:54.130 --> 00:08:55.519 +[Corwin]: Sorry, I can read you. 00:08:55.520 --> 00:08:57.319 So the next question you have, @@ -514,7 +525,7 @@ And I think you started to answer in the pad. But if you want to kind of read that out. 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:19.119 -I definitely haven't written anything in the pad. +[screwlisp]: I definitely haven't written anything in the pad. 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:23.719 I'm going to just talk to Khaki Guest in Lambda. @@ -525,6 +536,8 @@ Sure, so why don't you do a little bit 00:09:25.880 --> 00:09:27.279 and just read this question. +NOTE Q: What is LambdaMOO, and how do we use it? + 00:09:27.280 --> 00:09:31.279 The question was, what is LambdaMOO and how do we use it? @@ -556,7 +569,7 @@ of the discussion links feedback area, you'll see a set of detailed instructions 00:09:55.680 --> 00:09:58.519 -that ScrewList has provided us to get in there. +that screwlisp has provided us to get in there. 00:09:58.520 --> 00:10:01.159 I think that was actually GGXX @@ -571,7 +584,7 @@ Several changes evolved in the last 10 minutes before we went live here. 00:10:09.680 --> 00:10:12.839 -But yeah, so LambdaMoo is +But yeah, so LambdaMOO is 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:14.879 the world's longest-running virtual reality. @@ -609,10 +622,12 @@ for Xerox PARC, originally. Just to go to what Khaki Guest 00:10:52.800 --> 00:10:54.839 has been continuing to talk about. -00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:57.799 -Welcome to Brown, Guest, as well, I guess. +00:10:54.840 --> 00:11:01.339 +Welcome to Brown Guest as well, I guess. -00:10:57.800 --> 00:11:03.399 +NOTE Q: It seems like you're trying to build a more restrictive Turing test using the input / output logs of an emacs conversation. Is that accurate? + +00:11:01.340 --> 00:11:03.399 Aki Guest says, to Screwtape, 00:11:03.400 --> 00:11:04.959 @@ -775,7 +790,7 @@ that this looks more like me computing using of REPL-driven development like EEV, 00:13:27.520 --> 00:13:30.479 -where in EEV I have basically a log +where in EEV, I have basically a log 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:32.119 of something I've previously done, @@ -865,7 +880,7 @@ Oh, well. Sorry about that. I tried that. I just lost a couple of minutes there 00:15:06.800 --> 00:15:08.879 -and failed to give you the smooth morning. +and failed to give you the smooth warning. 00:15:08.880 --> 00:15:14.199 Oh, no, no. That's fine. I was just kind of rambling. @@ -907,11 +922,13 @@ just to not leave anyone else. Anyone out much to their chagrin possibly. 00:15:43.560 --> 00:15:47.639 -Um, how to connect to LambdaMu, seems great. +Um, how to connect to LambdaMOO, seems great. 00:15:47.640 --> 00:15:52.159 Oh, interesting guides, somebody wrote that. +NOTE Q: What do you mean by slowly? + 00:15:52.160 --> 00:15:55.439 What do you mean by slowly? Yeah, so I'm saying taking @@ -949,10 +966,10 @@ Somebody has a link to Eduardo's blog, which I think has been misspelled. 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:23.079 -It should be angkwu with no dot there, +It should be anggtwu with no dot there, 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:27.199 -dot net, sharp sign EEV. +dot net, sharp sign EEV. (https://anggtwu.net/#eev) 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:31.519 So, Eduardo is the author of EEV mode. -- cgit v1.2.3