From 5109247232612602cff9471e19188daff207e953 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Sacha Chua Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 13:01:36 -0500 Subject: Automated commit --- ...d-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main--chapters.vtt | 34 ++ ...ng-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main.vtt | 502 +++++++++++++++++++++ 2022/info/detached-after.md | 174 +++++++ 2022/info/detached-before.md | 27 +- 4 files changed, 734 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) create mode 100644 2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main--chapters.vtt create mode 100644 2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main.vtt (limited to '2022') diff --git a/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main--chapters.vtt b/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main--chapters.vtt new file mode 100644 index 00000000..63f883ff --- /dev/null +++ b/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main--chapters.vtt @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +WEBVTT + +00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:27.120 +Intro + +00:00:27.120 --> 00:01:15.800 +The problem + +00:01:15.800 --> 00:02:30.840 +My solution: detached + +00:02:30.840 --> 00:03:30.800 +Shell + +00:03:30.800 --> 00:04:27.754 +Compile + +00:04:27.854 --> 00:05:21.440 +Detached list sessions + +00:05:21.440 --> 00:06:07.080 +Narrow criteria + +00:06:07.080 --> 00:06:34.040 +Diff sessions + +00:06:34.040 --> 00:07:04.421 +Rich interface with properties + +00:07:04.521 --> 00:07:44.988 +Annotation + +00:07:45.088 --> 00:10:10.760 +Searching through sessions diff --git a/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main.vtt b/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main.vtt new file mode 100644 index 00000000..09c4a9df --- /dev/null +++ b/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main.vtt @@ -0,0 +1,502 @@ +WEBVTT captioned by anush + +00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.354 +Hello, everyone! Welcome to my talk, + +00:00:04.454 --> 00:00:07.221 +"Getting detached from Emacs". + +00:00:07.321 --> 00:00:09.720 +When I started to use Emacs, + +00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:12.920 +I quickly gravitated towards using it + +00:00:12.920 --> 00:00:15.000 +as much as I could. + +00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.880 +Magit, Org, Dired, + +00:00:17.880 --> 00:00:21.360 +a lot of new possibilities opened up. + +00:00:21.360 --> 00:00:23.280 +However, there was a workflow + +00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:27.120 +that was difficult for me to replace. + +00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.120 +The problem for me was running shell commands + +00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:32.560 +in sub-processes of Emacs, + +00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:34.880 +which in some situations led me to stick to + +00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:38.000 +using an external terminal. + +00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:39.588 +These situations, + +00:00:39.688 --> 00:00:43.254 +often revolved around long-running shell commands, + +00:00:43.354 --> 00:00:46.054 +either on my local machine + +00:00:46.154 --> 00:00:48.600 +or on a remote host. + +00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:50.240 +When I was on a remote host, + +00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:52.800 +I would also rely on using the program tmux + +00:00:52.800 --> 00:00:57.280 +to be able to detach from the remote process. + +00:00:57.280 --> 00:00:59.521 +My main concern at the time + +00:00:59.621 --> 00:01:01.854 +was that I didn't want to having to avoid + +00:01:01.954 --> 00:01:03.440 +restarting Emacs, + +00:01:03.440 --> 00:01:07.800 +because I needed to wait for a process to complete. + +00:01:07.800 --> 00:01:11.200 +However, there was of course a lot of things + +00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:15.800 +I was missing out on by not using Emacs. + +00:01:15.800 --> 00:01:19.760 +Therefore, my solution to resolving + +00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:22.840 +the issue of occasionally having to leave Emacs + +00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:26.188 +led me down the path of developing the package + +00:01:26.188 --> 00:01:28.221 +Detached. + +00:01:28.321 --> 00:01:31.160 +The package allows Emacs to delegate + +00:01:31.160 --> 00:01:33.640 +the responsibility of creating processes + +00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:36.840 +to the program dtach. + +00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:39.021 +It also makes sure to write + +00:01:39.121 --> 00:01:44.321 +the output of the process to a file, + +00:01:44.421 --> 00:01:48.154 +which we will see later on how that is being used. + +00:01:48.254 --> 00:01:50.800 +The package makes Emacs capable of + +00:01:50.800 --> 00:01:53.120 +attaching to these processes + +00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:55.280 +as well as managing them. + +00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:58.880 +In the package, each process is called a session, + +00:01:58.880 --> 00:02:01.040 +and inside of Emacs that is just + +00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:02.560 +an object with properties + +00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:04.588 +such as what command is being run, + +00:02:04.688 --> 00:02:06.720 +what working directory is used, + +00:02:06.720 --> 00:02:10.240 +where the output is stored, etc. + +00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:12.480 +The important aspect is also that + +00:02:12.480 --> 00:02:16.840 +these objects are being persistent, + +00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:20.121 +so they are stored over time. + +00:02:20.221 --> 00:02:22.920 +Today, I'm going to walk you through + +00:02:22.920 --> 00:02:26.054 +how I use the package and what advantages + +00:02:26.154 --> 00:02:30.840 +there are of treating processes like text. + +00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:35.720 +I'm going to start by opening up M-x shell, + +00:02:35.720 --> 00:02:40.288 +and I will run a command + +00:02:40.388 --> 00:02:46.920 +to update my package manager. + +00:02:46.920 --> 00:02:48.254 +Instead of pressing return, + +00:02:48.354 --> 00:02:50.240 +I'll simply press shift return + +00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:52.600 +to let Emacs delegate the execution + +00:02:52.600 --> 00:02:54.920 +to the dtach program. + +00:02:54.920 --> 00:02:57.600 +Emacs will immediately attach itself to the process, + +00:02:57.600 --> 00:03:00.960 +and we therefore don't perceive any difference + +00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:04.480 +from when running the command as a subprocess. + +00:03:04.480 --> 00:03:06.488 +We now have the option though + +00:03:06.588 --> 00:03:09.800 +to detach from the session, + +00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:12.080 +and later on we can of course + +00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:17.054 +reattach Emacs to the session. + +00:03:17.154 --> 00:03:20.421 +For me, this addresses the core + +00:03:20.521 --> 00:03:23.800 +of the problem that I had. + +00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:25.040 +But let’s see what’s more + +00:03:25.040 --> 00:03:30.800 +the new workflow inside of Emacs can bring. + +00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:35.720 +The package supports multiple user interfaces + +00:03:35.720 --> 00:03:39.840 +such as Eshell and Compile. + +00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:43.360 +I will therefore switch to the Detached project, + +00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:49.440 +and I will run the build command that I use. + +00:03:49.440 --> 00:03:54.040 +I will run it with detached-compile + +00:03:54.040 --> 00:03:55.800 +with the difference that + +00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:59.800 +I can detach from the compilation. + +00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:05.000 +One benefit of this new workflow is that + +00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:08.680 +I can get a system notification shown up here + +00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:10.760 +once a session has finished. + +00:04:10.760 --> 00:04:15.520 +Previously, I was either forced to have + +00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:19.040 +the terminal open so I could see it or hiding it, + +00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:27.754 +but then risking having forgotten it. + +00:04:27.854 --> 00:04:32.560 +How do we then see the output of a session? + +00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:36.788 +Get the detached-list-sessions command, + +00:04:36.888 --> 00:04:42.854 +and here we see + +00:04:42.954 --> 00:04:45.600 +the command that we just built, + +00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:48.440 +and we see the guix pull with an asterisk + +00:04:48.440 --> 00:04:54.480 +indicating that it is continuously running. + +00:04:54.480 --> 00:05:01.421 +If I press enter, + +00:05:01.521 --> 00:05:04.440 +we will get the output of the session here. + +00:05:04.440 --> 00:05:07.200 +And since it was run using compile, + +00:05:07.200 --> 00:05:11.720 +we also have compilation mode enabled here, + +00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:14.188 +so we could navigate between + +00:05:14.288 --> 00:05:17.160 +potential warnings or errors. + +00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:21.440 +And we see that there is a warning here. + +00:05:21.440 --> 00:05:26.621 +One thing that + +00:05:26.721 --> 00:05:28.920 +I have prepared here is that + +00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:32.240 +if I open up the user interface, + +00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:35.760 +we only see two sessions, + +00:05:35.760 --> 00:05:38.988 +but that is because we applied a filter here. + +00:05:39.088 --> 00:05:43.160 +So, we have actually the only sessions + +00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.000 +that are created within the last 12 hours + +00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:47.360 +and that are considered unique. + +00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:50.600 +So, if I remove the uniqueness, + +00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:57.040 +we also see that we have a previous build + +00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.280 +running on the main branch. + +00:05:59.280 --> 00:06:02.760 +So, I think that's typically normal + +00:06:02.760 --> 00:06:07.080 +that you might have that. + +00:06:07.080 --> 00:06:10.920 +And since the sessions can be considered text, + +00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:14.760 +we can just mark these two and check, + +00:06:14.760 --> 00:06:18.880 +does this warning exist on the main branch or not? + +00:06:18.880 --> 00:06:22.720 +So, we can just diff these ones + +00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:27.454 +and we see that the warning is only present + +00:06:27.554 --> 00:06:34.040 +on the emacsconf branch. + +00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:37.520 +Now, another benefit, in my opinion, + +00:06:37.520 --> 00:06:41.840 +of the new way of working is that + +00:06:41.840 --> 00:06:43.240 +I have these properties being displayed + +00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.321 +in the user interface. + +00:06:45.421 --> 00:06:48.960 +I can quickly see which commands are still running, + +00:06:48.960 --> 00:06:51.360 +what hosts they are running on, + +00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:53.388 +where they are running, + +00:06:53.488 --> 00:06:58.121 +and for how long they have been running. + +00:06:58.221 --> 00:07:00.321 +And if they have run, + +00:07:00.421 --> 00:07:04.421 +how long did it take? + +00:07:04.521 --> 00:07:06.880 +Occasionally, though, there might be + +00:07:06.880 --> 00:07:16.880 +even more input needed to distinguish sessions. + +00:07:16.880 --> 00:07:19.600 +So, what I typically do then is + +00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.200 +press A to annotate the session, + +00:07:22.200 --> 00:07:28.988 +I would add a "Warning found at emacsconf" + +00:07:29.088 --> 00:07:32.854 +And then it will show up this annotation + +00:07:32.954 --> 00:07:44.988 +in the echo area when I select the session. + +00:07:45.088 --> 00:07:48.080 +Another great improvement of using these sessions + +00:07:48.080 --> 00:07:52.640 +and consider them being text is, + +00:07:52.640 --> 00:07:57.321 +now we also see the guix pull completed here. + +00:07:57.421 --> 00:08:00.921 +Then we can also select and see that, okay, + +00:08:01.021 --> 00:08:08.600 +there is a lot of updates in this command, + +00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:10.160 +but let's not look at it now. + +00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:17.554 +Let's instead remember that + +00:08:17.654 --> 00:08:19.840 +previously last week + +00:08:19.840 --> 00:08:21.640 +when I ran a guix pull, + +00:08:21.640 --> 00:08:27.680 +I saw an Emacs package that looks interesting. + +00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.040 +I rather don't remember its full name, + +00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.720 +but it has something to do with collection. + +00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:38.840 +So, what I then can do is + +00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:42.280 +remove the 12 hour narrowing criteria, + +00:08:42.280 --> 00:08:47.680 +and we can see here I got sessions ranging back + +00:08:47.680 --> 00:08:51.040 +even to 28th of October. + +00:08:51.040 --> 00:08:55.600 +Since these are just to be considered text, + +00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:58.654 +I can-- + +00:08:58.754 --> 00:09:00.320 +now let's first narrow the sessions + +00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:05.188 +to only show the ones that run guix pull. + +00:09:05.288 --> 00:09:08.440 +Then I would narrow based on the output + +00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:11.280 +containing a regular expression. + +00:09:11.280 --> 00:09:14.400 +So, I remember it was something with collection. + +00:09:14.400 --> 00:09:19.988 +And we got one hit. + +00:09:20.088 --> 00:09:24.088 +Here it should be something with collection. + +00:09:24.188 --> 00:09:29.521 +It was emacs-flymake-collection. + +00:09:29.621 --> 00:09:34.721 +This is something that is a + +00:09:34.821 --> 00:09:38.400 +very nice feature to have. + +00:09:38.400 --> 00:09:42.160 +It doesn't create any overhead + +00:09:42.160 --> 00:09:45.280 +of having these old sessions lying around + +00:09:45.280 --> 00:09:47.400 +and occasionally, it can be interesting + +00:09:47.400 --> 00:09:49.680 +to search through them as well. + +00:09:49.680 --> 00:09:55.000 +So, for me, this is another example of + +00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:59.954 +when bringing workflows into Emacs, + +00:10:00.054 --> 00:10:05.021 +it often opens up new exciting possibilities. + +00:10:05.121 --> 00:10:10.760 +Thanks a lot for listening. diff --git a/2022/info/detached-after.md b/2022/info/detached-after.md index 04ee65f7..44d7b677 100644 --- a/2022/info/detached-after.md +++ b/2022/info/detached-after.md @@ -1,6 +1,180 @@ + +# Transcript + +[[!template new="1" text="""Hello, everyone! Welcome to my talk,""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text=""""Getting detached from Emacs".""" start="00:00:04.454" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""When I started to use Emacs,""" start="00:00:07.321" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I quickly gravitated towards using it""" start="00:00:09.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as much as I could.""" start="00:00:12.920" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Magit, Org, Dired,""" start="00:00:15.000" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a lot of new possibilities opened up.""" start="00:00:17.880" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""However, there was a workflow""" start="00:00:21.360" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that was difficult for me to replace.""" start="00:00:23.280" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template new="1" text="""The problem for me was running shell commands""" start="00:00:27.120" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in sub-processes of Emacs,""" start="00:00:30.120" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which in some situations led me to stick to""" start="00:00:32.560" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using an external terminal.""" start="00:00:34.880" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""These situations,""" start="00:00:38.000" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""often revolved around long-running shell commands,""" start="00:00:39.688" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""either on my local machine""" start="00:00:43.354" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or on a remote host.""" start="00:00:46.154" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""When I was on a remote host,""" start="00:00:48.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I would also rely on using the program tmux""" start="00:00:50.240" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to be able to detach from the remote process.""" start="00:00:52.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""My main concern at the time""" start="00:00:57.280" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was that I didn't want to having to avoid""" start="00:00:59.621" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""restarting Emacs,""" start="00:01:01.954" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I needed to wait for a process to complete.""" start="00:01:03.440" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""However, there was of course a lot of things""" start="00:01:07.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I was missing out on by not using Emacs.""" start="00:01:11.200" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template new="1" text="""Therefore, my solution to resolving""" start="00:01:15.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the issue of occasionally having to leave Emacs""" start="00:01:19.760" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""led me down the path of developing the package""" start="00:01:22.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Detached.""" start="00:01:26.188" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The package allows Emacs to delegate""" start="00:01:28.321" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the responsibility of creating processes""" start="00:01:31.160" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the program dtach.""" start="00:01:33.640" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It also makes sure to write""" start="00:01:36.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the output of the process to a file,""" start="00:01:39.121" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which we will see later on how that is being used.""" start="00:01:44.421" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The package makes Emacs capable of""" start="00:01:48.254" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""attaching to these processes""" start="00:01:50.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as well as managing them.""" start="00:01:53.120" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In the package, each process is called a session,""" start="00:01:55.280" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and inside of Emacs that is just""" start="00:01:58.880" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""an object with properties""" start="00:02:01.040" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""such as what command is being run,""" start="00:02:02.560" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what working directory is used,""" start="00:02:04.688" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where the output is stored, etc.""" start="00:02:06.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The important aspect is also that""" start="00:02:10.240" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""these objects are being persistent,""" start="00:02:12.480" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so they are stored over time.""" start="00:02:16.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Today, I'm going to walk you through""" start="00:02:20.221" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how I use the package and what advantages""" start="00:02:22.920" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there are of treating processes like text.""" start="00:02:26.154" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template new="1" text="""I'm going to start by opening up M-x shell,""" start="00:02:30.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I will run a command""" start="00:02:35.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to update my package manager.""" start="00:02:40.388" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Instead of pressing return,""" start="00:02:46.920" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll simply press shift return""" start="00:02:48.354" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to let Emacs delegate the execution""" start="00:02:50.240" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the dtach program.""" start="00:02:52.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs will immediately attach itself to the process,""" start="00:02:54.920" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and we therefore don't perceive any difference""" start="00:02:57.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from when running the command as a subprocess.""" start="00:03:00.960" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We now have the option though""" start="00:03:04.480" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to detach from the session,""" start="00:03:06.588" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and later on we can of course""" start="00:03:09.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""reattach Emacs to the session.""" start="00:03:12.080" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For me, this addresses the core""" start="00:03:17.154" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the problem that I had.""" start="00:03:20.521" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But let’s see what’s more""" start="00:03:23.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the new workflow inside of Emacs can bring.""" start="00:03:25.040" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template new="1" text="""The package supports multiple user interfaces""" start="00:03:30.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""such as Eshell and Compile.""" start="00:03:35.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will therefore switch to the Detached project,""" start="00:03:39.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I will run the build command that I use.""" start="00:03:43.360" 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Please e-mail [niklas.eklund@posteo.net](mailto:niklas.eklund@posteo.net?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202022%20detached%3A%20Getting%20detached%20from%20Emacs) diff --git a/2022/info/detached-before.md b/2022/info/detached-before.md index 0c4ad118..a4673e9f 100644 --- a/2022/info/detached-before.md +++ b/2022/info/detached-before.md @@ -3,16 +3,37 @@ In this talk, Niklas Eklund shows how to use detached to manage long-running asy The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sun 2022-12-04. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. Dashed lines show talks with Q&A via IRC or Etherpad.
- Schedule for Sunday Sunday 9:00- 9:05 Sunday opening remarks sun-open 9:05- 9:25 Results of the 2022 Emacs Survey survey 9:35- 9:45 This Year in Org orgyear 9:55-10:20 Build a Zettelkasten with the Hyperbole Rolodex rolodex 10:40-10:50 Linking headings with org-super-links (poor-man's Zettelkasten) orgsuperlinks 11:10-11:20 orgvm: a simple HTTP server for org orgvm 1:00- 1:30 Powerful productivity with Hyperbole and Org Mode hyperorg 1:50- 2:15 Org workflows for developers workflows 2:35- 2:55 GRAIL---A Generalized Representation and Aggregation of Information Layers grail 3:25- 3:45 Putting Org Mode on the Indieweb indieweb 4:05- 4:15 Emacs development updates devel 4:25- 4:35 Fanfare for the Common Emacs User fanfare 4:50- 5:00 Sunday closing remarks sun-close 10:00-10:25 rde Emacs introduction rde 10:50-11:05 justl: Driving recipes within Emacs justl 11:15-11:35 What I'd like to see in Emacs rms 1:00- 1:15 Getting detached from Emacs detached 1:40- 1:55 Top 10 reasons why you should be using Eshell eshell 2:20- 2:40 Emacs was async before async was cool async 3:15- 3:35 The Wheels on D-Bus dbus 4:00- 4:10 Pre-localizing Emacs localizing 4:30- 4:35 Short hyperlinks to Python docs python 9 AM 10 AM 11 AM 12 PM 1 PM 2 PM 3 PM 4 PM 5 PM + Schedule for Sunday Sunday 9:00- 9:05 Sunday opening remarks sun-open 9:06- 9:26 Results of the 2022 Emacs Survey survey 9:35- 9:45 This Year in Org orgyear 9:57-10:22 Build a Zettelkasten with the Hyperbole Rolodex rolodex 10:40-10:50 Linking headings with org-super-links (poor-man's Zettelkasten) orgsuperlinks 11:10-11:20 orgvm: a simple HTTP server for org orgvm 1:00- 1:30 Powerful productivity with Hyperbole and Org Mode hyperorg 1:50- 2:15 Org workflows for developers workflows 2:35- 2:55 GRAIL---A Generalized Representation and Aggregation of Information Layers grail 3:25- 3:45 Putting Org Mode on the Indieweb indieweb 4:05- 4:15 Emacs development updates devel 4:25- 4:35 Fanfare for the Common Emacs User fanfare 4:50- 5:00 Sunday closing remarks sun-close 10:00-10:25 rde Emacs introduction rde 10:50-11:05 justl: Driving recipes within Emacs justl 11:15-11:35 What I'd like to see in Emacs rms 1:01- 1:16 Getting detached from Emacs detached 1:40- 1:55 Top 10 reasons why you should be using Eshell eshell 2:20- 2:40 Emacs was async before async was cool async 3:15- 3:35 The Wheels on D-Bus dbus 4:00- 4:10 Pre-localizing Emacs localizing 4:30- 4:35 Short hyperlinks to Python docs python 9 AM 10 AM 11 AM 12 PM 1 PM 2 PM 3 PM 4 PM 5 PM
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