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+Hello. My name is Karl Voit,
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+and I've spent the last decade
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+working with Emacs Org Mode
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+as my main organization system
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+for my use cases,
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+and I would like to take this opportunity
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+and point out a subtle issue we've had
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+in many different discussions around Org Mode,
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+which itself stands for
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+quite different kind of things.
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+On the one hand side,
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+Org Mode is an implementation in Elisp
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+on the Emacs platform,
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+and on the other hand side,
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+Org Mode is also a lightweight markup language
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+which we use to express things:
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+how headings are marked,
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+how text is made boldface,
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+how external links are written,
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+and so forth, in text documents.
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+From my own experience,
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+from many different online discussions,
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+I once wrote a blog article on my web page
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+that summarizes why I do think
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+that Org Mode is superior
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+to other well-known lightweight markup languages
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+such as Markdown, AsciiDoc, reStructuredText and more.
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+My main points in this article were that
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+Org Mode is an intuitive
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+and easy to learn and remember markup.
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+It is standardized,
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+as in the Emacs implementation
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+defines the current standard,
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+and there is no different Org mode version
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+out there which conflicts with that.
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+Org Mode is consistent
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+within its markup language design.
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+Org Mode can be easily typed in any text-based tool,
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+and Org Mode makes much sense outside of Emacs,
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+so that you can use it, for example,
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+in email clients or in other text documents
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+not interpreting the markup at all.
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+And of course, if you want,
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+you can have the perfect tool support within Emacs
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+and other software tools.
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+This naming issue,
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+using one name for two different kind of things,
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+arises in discussions about the markup's support
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+in non-Emacs tools and services,
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+in questions on levels of compatibility
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+in comparison to the large and huge
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+amount of functionality within Emacs,
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+and so forth.
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+In order to find a solution
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+to some of those issues,
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+I propose a different name. A new idea.
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+A definition for the lightweight markup language,
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+and the lightweight markup language alone.
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+A new standard, which, by the way,
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+reminds me on something here...
+
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+Anyway...
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+So we need a different name
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+for this new thing,
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+and its feature set needs to be
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+something good enough
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+to help adapting Org Mode syntax
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+outside of the Emacs universe.
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+It can't be the whole set of Org Mode features.
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+This would kill the idea instantly,
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+because everything that is going
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+into that direction
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+would be compared to our golden standards,
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+the Emacs implementation of Org Mode,
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+which cannot be compared
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+to anything else at this time.
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+So it needs to be somehow less than Org Mode.
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+It needs to be recognizable in non-Emacs circles,
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+and it should remind people
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+on similar things
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+in order to be something
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+somewhat self-explanatory as a term.
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+Hereby, I propose the name Orgdown
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+for this thing, and it's launched
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+with my Emacs Conference talk 2021.
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+So what should Orgdown be?
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+It should be a subset of Org Mode
+
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+lightweight markup language syntax.
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+It should be a definition of
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+Org-Mode-based entities
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+that do make sense on their own
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+which is, in any case,
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+always a compromise of some sort, of course.
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+It needs to be extensible for different purposes
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+to ensure future-proofness,
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+and it needs to have
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+a formal definition of Org Mode,
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+which helps in becoming a new standard.
+
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+it needs to be a self-sustaining community
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+that supports the process by documentation
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+and connecting people to other people,
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+to the documentation, and to tools.
+
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+What Orgdown should never be
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+is something that's incompatible
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+with Org Mode within Emacs,
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+and some kind of Org Mode replacement, of course.
+
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+The advantages of Orgdown for everybody
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+includes better Org support in non-Emacs tools;
+
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+to promote the beautifully crafted Org Mode syntax
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+to a larger set of people,
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+even outside of Emacs, of course;
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+to push better support for the collaboration
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+for Emacs and non-Emacs users
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+for using text-based documents;
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+finally, fix the irritating mix-up of
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+markup language support
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+and its Elisp implementation.
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+I already mentioned briefly the need for
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+a definition and extensibility.
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+Therefore I came up with the idea
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+of having different levels of Orgdown,
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+and the first and most basic level of Orgdown
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+is called Orgdown1.
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+Orgdown1, or in short, OD1, consists of
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+a small set of Org-Mode-based features
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+such as simple text formatting, headings, lists,
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+and checkboxes, example, quote, and source blocks,
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+comments, external web links,
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+tables without calculations.
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+I tried to find a compromise
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+that should work with most people
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+starting with any lightweight markup
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+that is based on Emacs Org Mode.
+
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+In order to get a measure
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+on how well Orgdown1 is supported
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+by one specific tool,
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+I came up with an OD1
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+compatibility percentage index.
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+43 easy-to-check features such as:
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+does it support highlighting of bold text
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+using single asterisks?
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+Each feature can be supported
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+in a basic way (one point)
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+or in an advanced way (two points).
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+One point means it basically
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+doesn't interfere with the tool
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+in any negative way.
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+Two points means that it provides
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+active syntax highlighting, for example,
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+or even tool-supported features
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+like shortcuts to insert elements and such.
+
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+Summing up those two levels
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+for all those 43 features
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+result in a number
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+that can be compared
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+to the maximum level there is,
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+which results in a given percentage.
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+By definition,
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+Emacs provides full support
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+of all Orgdown levels,
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+and most tools support
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+at least fifty percent of Orgdown1
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+as long as Orgdown1 syntax
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+doesn't result in some markup conflict
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+or tooling conflict or whatever.
+
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+This emphasizes the idea
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+that Orgdown can and should be used
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+for personal notes anywhere and in general domains,
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+just like writing emails, for example.
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+I guess the majority of tools
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+with a certain support for Orgdown1
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+will be in the area of 80s and 90s, percentwise.
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+If Orgdown1 is not enough,
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+there will be future definitions
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+of Orgdown2, 3, or higher
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+which will take more and more syntax elements
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+from the Org Mode syntax
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+and integrate it into
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+the domain of Orgdown.
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+So far, Orgdown1 is described
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+on a public GitLab page
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+which has already documentation
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+on how to learn Orgdown,
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+some syntax examples,
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+frequently asked questions,
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+and of course, with their answers,
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+a collection of tools
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+that already do support Orgdown in some way,
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+and a few of them did already
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+get evaluated by me
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+and got their OD1 compatibility percentage
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+in a table.
+
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+Some ideas on how people can contribute
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+to this new standard
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+is also part of this new site.
+
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+And of course, now I need your help
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+in order to make this a success story
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+for Org Mode and of course Orgdown.
+
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+So please do contribute
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+to the GitLab project pages
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+and add tools and their Orgdown1-compatible percentages.
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+For example, a template file is provided,
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+of course.
+
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+Please do add more parsers.
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+Please use the term Orgdown1
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+to label tool properties
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+for your own stuff
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+and so that people do realize
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+that your tools are already supporting
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+this general use case of Org Mode.
+
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+And there is no need to support
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+all the Org Mode
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+in order to profit from Org Mode syntax
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+with Orgdown.
+
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+You can spread the idea
+
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+by promoting Orgdown
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+as a separate term
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+compared to Org Mode
+
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+and its mixed up definition
+
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+with the Org Mode Elisp implementation.
+
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+And in case that Orgdown
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+really resonates with you,
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+you can add a formal specification
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+to the GitLab project of Orgdown.
+
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+I guess that some of the
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+existing formal definitions of Org Mode
+
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+already do qualify for Orgdown1
+
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+by stripping down to the few things
+
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+Orgdown1 is concentrating on.
+
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+You can create, for example,
+
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+a language server protocol for Orgdown1
+
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+which would multiply the possibilities
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+10:48.000 --> 10:50.000
+for adapting Orgdown1
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+in all kinds of editors
+
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+by giving syntax highlighting, for example.
+
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+And you may find the idea intriguing
+
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+that Orgdown1 is a perfect markup language candidate
+
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+for the Gemini project,
+
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+which would be, in short,
+
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+a linked web of plain Orgdown1 files
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+that form a parallel internet
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+without advertisements,
+
+11:17.839 --> 11:20.880
+malware-bloated web pages, and so forth.
+
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+It's concentrating
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+11:22.160 --> 11:23.920
+on the essential value of information
+
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+in form of simple text files
+
+11:26.399 --> 11:29.279
+and links to other simple text files.
+
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+I would love to see this.
+happen someday
+
+11:39.760 --> 11:42.560
+In the meantime, let's kick-start Orgdown
+
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+with Orgdown1 as the first level.
+
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+Visit the GitLab page,
+
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+hand in improvements for the linked tool sections,
+
+11:49.600 --> 11:52.240
+and spread the brilliant markup design
+
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+of Org Mode,
+
+11:52.880 --> 11:56.000
+using Orgdown as a well-defined
+
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+new standard.
+
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+Thank you.
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