From 839b298776e262a99eec18d23f4e52363fe937bc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Sacha Chua Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:17:50 -0500 Subject: Add more autogenerated subtitles --- ...0--39-nongnu-elpa--richard-stallman-autogen.sbv | 471 +++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 471 insertions(+) create mode 100644 2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--39-nongnu-elpa--richard-stallman-autogen.sbv (limited to '2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--39-nongnu-elpa--richard-stallman-autogen.sbv') diff --git a/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--39-nongnu-elpa--richard-stallman-autogen.sbv b/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--39-nongnu-elpa--richard-stallman-autogen.sbv new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2fb585c8 --- /dev/null +++ b/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--39-nongnu-elpa--richard-stallman-autogen.sbv @@ -0,0 +1,471 @@ +0:00:00.320,0:00:08.080 +hello i'm richard stallman + +0:00:03.280,0:00:09.200 +founder of the gnu project in 1976 i + +0:00:08.080,0:00:12.000 +developed the first + +0:00:09.200,0:00:13.440 +emacs editor with some help from guy + +0:00:12.000,0:00:15.839 +steele + +0:00:13.440,0:00:19.119 +then shortly after starting to develop + +0:00:15.839,0:00:22.240 +the gnu operating system in 1984 + +0:00:19.119,0:00:24.640 +i wanted an emacs editor for it + +0:00:22.240,0:00:25.560 +so i started writing gnu emacs in + +0:00:24.640,0:00:28.560 +september + +0:00:25.560,0:00:28.560 +1984. + +0:00:29.519,0:00:35.920 +several years ago we decided to move + +0:00:32.640,0:00:36.559 +many of the emacs list packages outside + +0:00:35.920,0:00:39.760 +the core + +0:00:36.559,0:00:42.960 +emacs distribution into a separate + +0:00:39.760,0:00:43.280 +package archive that we call the e-max + +0:00:42.960,0:00:46.480 +list + +0:00:43.280,0:00:48.719 +package arc elpa + +0:00:46.480,0:00:51.520 +there were two main reasons for this one + +0:00:48.719,0:00:54.320 +is to make the emax distribution smaller + +0:00:51.520,0:00:55.680 +so every user wouldn't have to get all + +0:00:54.320,0:00:58.320 +the packages + +0:00:55.680,0:01:00.480 +and install all the packages and the + +0:00:58.320,0:01:01.520 +other reason was to make it possible to + +0:01:00.480,0:01:04.559 +release + +0:01:01.520,0:01:08.320 +individual packages separately + +0:01:04.559,0:01:08.320 +from emacs releases + +0:01:08.880,0:01:17.040 +now at that point somehow we decided to + +0:01:13.119,0:01:19.520 +support loading packages from + +0:01:17.040,0:01:21.119 +a variety of different emacs list + +0:01:19.520,0:01:25.520 +package archives + +0:01:21.119,0:01:29.280 +and ours would be called the gnu elpa + +0:01:25.520,0:01:32.079 +but elpa could be any other + +0:01:29.280,0:01:32.799 +now i think that naming was a mistake we + +0:01:32.079,0:01:35.119 +should have + +0:01:32.799,0:01:37.759 +meant we should have decided that elpa + +0:01:35.119,0:01:39.759 +referred to our package archive + +0:01:37.759,0:01:42.479 +and any other package archive should be + +0:01:39.759,0:01:46.079 +called some other name + +0:01:42.479,0:01:48.320 +oh well uh this + +0:01:46.079,0:01:50.240 +is a mistake i believe because it leads + +0:01:48.320,0:01:51.119 +to a lot of confusion it would have been + +0:01:50.240,0:01:55.759 +clearer + +0:01:51.119,0:01:59.600 +if we had uh used the other naming + +0:01:55.759,0:02:00.399 +because the difference between having a + +0:01:59.600,0:02:04.159 +package in + +0:02:00.399,0:02:07.840 +core emacs and having it in gnu elpa + +0:02:04.159,0:02:09.679 +is purely a practical convenience matter + +0:02:07.840,0:02:12.000 +convenience of distribution and + +0:02:09.679,0:02:14.879 +convenience of maintenance + +0:02:12.000,0:02:16.800 +we wanted to be able to move packages + +0:02:14.879,0:02:20.160 +between the two + +0:02:16.800,0:02:21.200 +whenever that was convenient so to make + +0:02:20.160,0:02:23.200 +that possible + +0:02:21.200,0:02:26.319 +we insisted on getting copyright + +0:02:23.200,0:02:28.800 +assignments for packages in gnu elpa + +0:02:26.319,0:02:31.360 +just the same way we do for packages in + +0:02:28.800,0:02:33.760 +core emacs + +0:02:31.360,0:02:36.239 +having the facility for installing + +0:02:33.760,0:02:39.440 +packages from package archives + +0:02:36.239,0:02:42.239 +led to a tremendous boost in the + +0:02:39.440,0:02:44.879 +development and release of emax packages + +0:02:42.239,0:02:46.560 +unfortunately there was a problem with + +0:02:44.879,0:02:49.120 +the way that was done + +0:02:46.560,0:02:50.000 +for the most part the developers of + +0:02:49.120,0:02:52.480 +these packages + +0:02:50.000,0:02:53.599 +wouldn't even tell us about them they + +0:02:52.480,0:02:56.720 +posted them + +0:02:53.599,0:02:58.480 +in another package archive where we + +0:02:56.720,0:03:02.000 +didn't know about them + +0:02:58.480,0:03:03.120 +and where they no attempt was made to + +0:03:02.000,0:03:06.560 +try to fit them + +0:03:03.120,0:03:10.879 +into emacs so that they could make sense + +0:03:06.560,0:03:14.480 +as parts of the emacs distribution + +0:03:10.879,0:03:16.959 +this led to both moral problems + +0:03:14.480,0:03:19.599 +packages that depended on non-free + +0:03:16.959,0:03:22.159 +software in order to be usable + +0:03:19.599,0:03:24.319 +and technical problems because the + +0:03:22.159,0:03:26.159 +developers of those packages didn't + +0:03:24.319,0:03:29.519 +coordinate with us + +0:03:26.159,0:03:33.040 +about how to make it useful and + +0:03:29.519,0:03:36.000 +convenient and clean to have them + +0:03:33.040,0:03:36.000 +in emacs + +0:03:36.560,0:03:44.840 +so the idea of non-gdu elpa + +0:03:41.120,0:03:48.319 +is an effort to smooth these things + +0:03:44.840,0:03:51.680 +out the fundamental plan of + +0:03:48.319,0:03:54.480 +non-gnu eopa is that + +0:03:51.680,0:03:56.159 +we won't ask for copyright assignments + +0:03:54.480,0:03:58.560 +for those packages + +0:03:56.159,0:04:00.000 +so we won't be able to put them into + +0:03:58.560,0:04:04.080 +core emacs + +0:04:00.000,0:04:06.959 +at least not easily but we will + +0:04:04.080,0:04:09.200 +have some control over how we distribute + +0:04:06.959,0:04:09.200 +them + +0:04:09.519,0:04:15.439 +we can put any package into + +0:04:12.640,0:04:16.320 +non-gnu elpa as long as it's free + +0:04:15.439,0:04:19.440 +software + +0:04:16.320,0:04:23.360 +if we like it we can + +0:04:19.440,0:04:25.919 +set up that way for users to get it + +0:04:23.360,0:04:26.720 +we could put the package in exactly as + +0:04:25.919,0:04:29.919 +it is + +0:04:26.720,0:04:32.160 +if there's no problem at all with it + +0:04:29.919,0:04:34.160 +we can make an arrangement with the + +0:04:32.160,0:04:38.000 +packages developers + +0:04:34.160,0:04:40.880 +to work on it with us and maintain it + +0:04:38.000,0:04:42.560 +directly for distribution by non-gdu + +0:04:40.880,0:04:45.280 +elpa + +0:04:42.560,0:04:46.080 +but if they are not interested we can + +0:04:45.280,0:04:49.680 +put it in + +0:04:46.080,0:04:52.000 +ourselves and if we need to make any + +0:04:49.680,0:04:55.120 +changes we can do so + +0:04:52.000,0:04:59.040 +so non-gnu elpa + +0:04:55.120,0:05:01.360 +is not meant to be just a way + +0:04:59.040,0:05:02.720 +that others can distribute their + +0:05:01.360,0:05:05.039 +packages + +0:05:02.720,0:05:06.000 +it's meant at least in a minimal + +0:05:05.039,0:05:10.479 +technical + +0:05:06.000,0:05:12.800 +sense to work with gnu emacs and we'll + +0:05:10.479,0:05:14.240 +make changes if necessary so that it + +0:05:12.800,0:05:18.080 +works smoothly with + +0:05:14.240,0:05:18.080 +emacs and + +0:05:18.720,0:05:23.280 +this means that we're going to maintain + +0:05:22.160,0:05:27.600 +it differently + +0:05:23.280,0:05:29.759 +from gnu elpa well gnu elpa + +0:05:27.600,0:05:31.520 +is hosted in a way that is actually + +0:05:29.759,0:05:35.600 +rather inconvenient + +0:05:31.520,0:05:38.639 +it is one single git repository + +0:05:35.600,0:05:39.039 +and so anybody that has access to write + +0:05:38.639,0:05:42.560 +it + +0:05:39.039,0:05:44.639 +can write any part of it there are many + +0:05:42.560,0:05:46.080 +different packages in there maintained + +0:05:44.639,0:05:48.080 +by different people + +0:05:46.080,0:05:50.960 +and we have no way to give each one of + +0:05:48.080,0:05:54.720 +them access to per own package + +0:05:50.960,0:05:58.400 +and not to the others well with non-gnu + +0:05:54.720,0:05:59.440 +elpa we plan to fix that the idea is to + +0:05:58.400,0:06:02.479 +have + +0:05:59.440,0:06:05.600 +a single git repository where you can + +0:06:02.479,0:06:08.800 +download various packages from + +0:06:05.600,0:06:10.800 +but they won't be maintained there each + +0:06:08.800,0:06:14.080 +of those packages will be + +0:06:10.800,0:06:15.280 +copied automatically from some other + +0:06:14.080,0:06:18.800 +place + +0:06:15.280,0:06:21.759 +probably some other repository where + +0:06:18.800,0:06:22.960 +the right people have access to work on + +0:06:21.759,0:06:26.479 +it + +0:06:22.960,0:06:28.160 +and this way we can avoid giving a + +0:06:26.479,0:06:32.000 +gigantic number of people + +0:06:28.160,0:06:32.000 +access to every part of it + +0:06:32.240,0:06:40.479 +so far non-gnu elpa is just a plan + +0:06:37.039,0:06:43.280 +we need people to implement the plan + +0:06:40.479,0:06:45.120 +so if you would like to help please + +0:06:43.280,0:06:47.759 +write to me + +0:06:45.120,0:06:49.520 +i think this is a very important step + +0:06:47.759,0:06:52.639 +for progress + +0:06:49.520,0:06:57.919 +and it's got to be implemented + +0:06:52.639,0:06:57.919 +thanks and happy hacking + -- cgit v1.2.3