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+[[!meta title="Meeting notes"]]
+[[!meta copyright="Copyright © 2020 Amin Bandali, Sacha Chua, David O'Toole, Corwin Brust, Leo Vivier, Daniel Gopar"]]
+
+# January 2, 2020 meeting
+
+- Conversations
+ - mplsCorwin: FOSSHost: okay to experiment with being a CDN,
+ will experiment with videos
+ - authenticated RTMP server to support streaming meetups
+ from Jitsi?
+ - PeerTube?
+ - sachac: added more events to
+ <https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Usergroups> and the
+ calendar
+ - sachac: subed.el patches for splitting and merging
+ subtitles, will continue editing subtitles
+ - Podcast:
+ - Thinking about name: 
+ - Current: emacs.el podcast
+ - Emacs Weekly? Probably okay, although includes
+ commitment to actually make it weekly
+ - Amin and Gopar\'s Wild World of Emacs?
+ - ideas for making it visually interesting when there\'s
+ no video
+ - Suggested guest: Fermin - interesting story about how he
+ got into Emacs and started making it better for PHP
+ - Making these conversations more public:
+ - Maybe start with just putting public meeting minutes
+ somewhere, like the wiki, and then figure out if anyone
+ actually wants to subscribe to it =)
+ - E-mail summary to mailing list?
+ - Segments of recording? Timer in the pad can help. 
+ - Livestream with delay?
+ - Something to grow into, maybe; let\'s start with
+ text and possibly recording segments
+ - Maybe private part and then public part, with time notes
+ in case there are things we need to remove from the
+ recording, keeping private segment as short as possible
+ - Everyone\'s cool with this
+ - Discussed: Separate days for private and public
+ meeting? Might take too much time. 
+ - Guidelines for private segments: document reasons if
+ possible
+ - Confidentiality
+ - Buzz factor: vet ideas before unleashing them?
+ preview?
+ - Figuring out the persona/voice/feeling for EmacsConf, for the
+ meeting
+ - Hard to figure out how to communicate both
+ excitement and reserve
+ - Diversity and perspective: we\'re trying to figure
+ out how this comes across from the outside, without
+ our own knowledge
+ - sachac: We could try to just dump the outline for
+ starters, and can come up with quick automation for
+ transforming the Etherpad =)
+ - Is it because we\'re trying to figure out the
+ official voice for EmacsConf? Is it easier to talk
+ as individuals?
+- Next week:
+ - Leo will write a summary of what we\'ve been doing and put
+ it in the pad, for e-mailing out
+ - Week after: public meeting/recording 
+
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-WEBVTT
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-hi my name is brett gillio
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-and today I'll be sharing a project that
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-several people and I've been working on
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-for the past few months called org
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-webbery
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-the essential idea behind org webbering
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-is to take the power of creating a
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-website with org mode
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-and its built-in features to control
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-html and xml output
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-and utilize it to share blogs git
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-commits or other rss or atom static feed
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-content
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-to share directly with your audiences
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-my website is created entirely using org
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-mode and I love the amount of
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-flexibility it offers me while keeping
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-everything quite simple
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-I am able to put information about
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-myself a blog
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-and my org web ring tool directly on on
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-the home page using symbol org syntax
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-as you can see I am currently displaying
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-three posts on my website
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-the first is the geeksday announcement
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-the second is a quarterly financial
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-update from sourcehut
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-and the third is a post from
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-drewdevault's blog drew devault by the
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-way
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-his open ring is what helped inspire
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-what is today or
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-web ring all this information is
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-gathered using a sort of manifest file
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-that org web ring will use to acquire
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-and place the information in the correct
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-format
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-according to your specification
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-additionally
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-you can see that the geeksday
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-announcement is post is pinned
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-stylization is likewise controlled by
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-using css
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-you can add nice subtle color changes on
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-mouse hover or control the size of the
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-flexboxes all using standard css
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-let's examine a simple scenario of using
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-org webroom
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-after you have org webbing installed
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-you'll be able to create a manifest file
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-that looks something like this
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-this particular manifest file is an
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-example offered in the repository under
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-the assets directory
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-please feel free to utilize them as a
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-starting point if you are interested in
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-using org web ring
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-as you can see here we are able to place
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-an rss or atom feed in this file and
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-specify information about the feed we
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-wish to produce
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-for example the total number of items
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-and the total number of entries per
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-source item
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-additionally you're able to filter posts
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-you feel would not be relevant to your
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-web ring
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-we can take this example file and run
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-the dispatch and see the result
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-the web ring displays a proper summary
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-set to a character limit you can specify
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-additionally all the links in the web
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-ring are navigable and will open in a
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-new tab
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-that way if someone wishes to view the
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-content they simply need to
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-click on the title or their source name
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-now this particular example is not
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-stylized because we have not given the
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-website a css file to reference
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-let's examine what is happening from
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-behind the scenes a little bit
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-from inside of the org mode file let's
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-run
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-the org web ring function
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-as you can see it takes that xml file
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-and processes it into the correct html
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-you will then be able to embed this org
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-function into another org file to be
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-able to display it on your website
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-pretty neat let's look at an at another
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-example
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-on my website we have an example of
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-using org webbring to reply to another
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-blog post
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-what I have here is a post from drew to
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-vault's blog it is showcased clearly at
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-the top as a single entry
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-and you can see it is pinned the pinning
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-functionality ensures that this post is
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-moved to the front of the hypothetical
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-web ring
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-and guaranteeing its visibility this is
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-then coupled with a few changes such as
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-disabling the generation time
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-which would not be relevant to the
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-readers and a change of the text in the
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-header
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-to demonstrate is indeed used as a reply
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-an example of this is also provided in
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-the assets directory
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-last we can use org webbring as a blog
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-planet
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-which is one of my favorites this takes
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-after the emax life planet which I
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-believe is moderated by sasha
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-and others as well as the haskell and
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-ocamoplanets
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-a planet for the uninitiated is a
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-curated form of content sharing about a
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-set of topics
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-the max life haskell and ocampo planets
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-as their names imply
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-cover Emacs haskell and ocampo blogs
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-respectively
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-likewise my planet covers programming
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-language theory and category theory
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-primarily
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-it works in essentially the same way as
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-the org web ring you provide it with a
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-list of feeds that get parsed
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-however unlike the web ring the planet
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-function has no limits on the number of
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-entries per source
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-and the display number of posts is
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-increased significantly
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-the syndicates or sources have their
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-feeds shown
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-visibly to users who may wish to fetch
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-them
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-a planet is typically meant to be a
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-standalone page and not something you
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-would embed in another page like a web
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-ring
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-all this is provided under a single file
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-in the org web ring package as the code
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-reuse is quite high
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-aside from my own website we can view
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-the org web ring being used in neat
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-context with varying stylizations
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-here's a nice example from mikhail
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-kirilov at w96k.ru
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-featuring a four symmetrical flexbox
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-layout
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-an appropriate russian language timing
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-coding which can be also set in the org
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-web ring manifest
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-another is an example from camilo mesa
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-gayete
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-using ox hugo with org webring and
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-likewise correct
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-features the correct spanish time
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-encoding
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-last my other website workircd.org
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-shows the web ring being used in
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-combination with ocamo's tool link
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-supalt
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-to fetch git logs for that project
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-you may obtain org web ring directly
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-from source hut and add it to your load
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-path
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-additionally you will need to obtain
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-xmlgen.el
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-which is unfortunately not yet on alpha
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-although I have been trying to get this
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-rectified so I do not have to rewrite
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-org web brings xml to html parser
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-or if you're one of the cool kids using
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-my favorite package manager gnu geeks
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-you can obtain it like so
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-all of the documentation for org web
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-ring is available
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-on the sourceup website or in the readme
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-file after you check it out from the get
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-tree
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-there are so many ways to customize org
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-web ring
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-as there are just as many variables as
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-there are
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-parts and components to org web ring for
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-you to change
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-all of this is able to be done simply
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-from that same manifest file
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-now taking a moment to examine some of
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-the org web ring code
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-you can see it is all done in the same
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-e-lisp that everybody else is used to
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-now admittedly my e-lisp is not as
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-strong as
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-probably somebody else's so if you are
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-an e-lisp ninja please feel free to
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-send a contribution or a patch and tell
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-me what I'm doing wrong
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-it's I am not going to be offended by
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-that at all I would love to see this
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-code to
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-improve otherwise I don't think it's
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-half bad
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-considering that my experience with
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-lisps is usually in scheme
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-me moving from scheme to e-lisp was not
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-all that hard
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-taking the syntax apart
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-we're able to see that we can
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-fetch urls which are then parsed and
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-filtered sorted and then kind of reverse
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-sorted
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-rather to get you to the web ring result
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-all of this is then passed through
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-different parts of the xmlgen.el
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-functions which gets you that html that
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-you saw earlier
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-org webbring is fully free software
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-distributed under the gnu general public
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-license versions three or later
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-at your option I love accepting patches
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-and collaborating
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-I hope you will consider using
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-orawebring you can contact me on
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-freenode oftc or many other ioc irc
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-networks at brettgillio
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-or email me at brettgee gnu.org
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-thanks so much to amin bendali and the
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-organizers and to you the audience
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-thanks