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diff --git a/2022/info/detached-before.md b/2022/info/detached-before.md index 486b82a2..b3139527 100644 --- a/2022/info/detached-before.md +++ b/2022/info/detached-before.md @@ -1,6 +1,20 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> In this talk, Niklas Eklund shows how to use detached to manage long-running asynchronous processes, including how to search through and compare session results. Afterwards, he will handle questions via BigBlueButton. + +The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sun 2022-12-04. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. Dashed lines show talks with Q&A via IRC or Etherpad.<div class="schedule-in-context schedule-svg-container" data-slug="detached"> +<svg width="800" height="150" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"> <title> Schedule for Sunday</title> <rect width="800" height="150" x="0" y="0" fill="white"></rect> <text font-size="10" fill="black" y="12" x="3"> Sunday</text> <a href="/2022/talks/sun-open" title="Sunday opening remarks" data-slug="sun-open"> <title> 9:00- 9:05 Sunday opening remarks</title> <rect x="0" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="7" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(5,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sun-open</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/survey" title="Results of the 2022 Emacs Survey" data-slug="survey"> <title> 9:06- 9:26 Results of the 2022 Emacs Survey</title> <rect x="9" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="31" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(38,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> survey</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/orgyear" title="This Year in Org" data-slug="orgyear"> <title> 9:35- 9:45 This Year in Org</title> <rect x="54" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="15" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(67,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> orgyear</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/rolodex" title="Build a Zettelkasten with the Hyperbole Rolodex" data-slug="rolodex"> <title> 9:57-10:22 Build a Zettelkasten with the Hyperbole Rolodex</title> <rect x="89" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="39" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(126,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> rolodex</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/orgsuperlinks" title="Linking headings with org-super-links (poor-man's Zettelkasten)" data-slug="orgsuperlinks"> <title> 10:40-10:50 Linking headings with org-super-links (poor-man's Zettelkasten)</title> <rect x="156" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="15" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(169,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> orgsuperlinks</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/orgvm" title="orgvm: a simple HTTP server for org" data-slug="orgvm"> <title> 11:10-11:20 orgvm: a simple HTTP server for org</title> <rect x="203" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="15" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(216,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> orgvm</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/hyperorg" title="Powerful productivity with Hyperbole and Org Mode" data-slug="hyperorg"> <title> 1:00- 1:30 Powerful productivity with Hyperbole and Org Mode</title> <rect x="376" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="47" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(421,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> hyperorg</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/workflows" title="Org workflows for developers" data-slug="workflows"> <title> 1:50- 2:15 Org workflows for developers</title> <rect x="454" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="39" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(491,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> workflows</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/grail" title="GRAIL---A Generalized Representation and Aggregation of Information Layers" data-slug="grail"> <title> 2:35- 2:55 GRAIL---A Generalized Representation and Aggregation of Information Layers</title> <rect x="525" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="31" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(554,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> grail</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/indieweb" title="Putting Org Mode on the Indieweb" data-slug="indieweb"> <title> 3:25- 3:45 Putting Org Mode on the Indieweb</title> <rect x="603" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="31" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(632,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> indieweb</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/devel" title="Emacs development updates" data-slug="devel"> <title> 4:05- 4:15 Emacs development updates</title> <rect x="666" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="15" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(679,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> devel</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/fanfare" title="Fanfare for the Common Emacs User" data-slug="fanfare"> <title> 4:25- 4:35 Fanfare for the Common Emacs User</title> <rect x="698" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="15" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(711,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> fanfare</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/sun-close" title="Sunday closing remarks" data-slug="sun-close"> <title> 4:50- 5:00 Sunday closing remarks</title> <rect x="737" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="15" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(750,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sun-close</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/rde" title="rde Emacs introduction" data-slug="rde"> <title> 10:00-10:25 rde Emacs introduction</title> <rect x="94" y="75" opacity="0.5" width="39" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="skyblue"></rect> <g transform="translate(131,133)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> rde</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/justl" title="justl: Driving recipes within Emacs" data-slug="justl"> <title> 10:50-11:05 justl: Driving recipes within Emacs</title> <rect x="172" y="75" opacity="0.5" width="23" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="skyblue"></rect> <g transform="translate(193,133)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> justl</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/rms" title="What I'd like to see in Emacs" data-slug="rms"> <title> 11:15-11:35 What I'd like to see in Emacs</title> <rect x="211" y="75" opacity="0.5" width="31" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="skyblue"></rect> <g transform="translate(240,133)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> rms</text></g></a> <a href="/2022/talks/detached" title="Getting detached from 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11-min talk followed by live Q&A (done) +Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2022-detached> +Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-dev](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-dev) +Status: TO_INDEX_QA +<div>Times in different timezones:</div><div class="times" start="2022-12-04T18:01:00Z" end="2022-12-04T18:16:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~1:01 PM - 1:16 PM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~12:01 PM - 12:16 PM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~11:01 AM - 11:16 AM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~10:01 AM - 10:16 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~6:01 PM - 6:16 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~7:01 PM - 7:16 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~8:01 PM - 8:16 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~11:31 PM - 11:46 PM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Monday, Dec 5 2022, ~2:01 AM - 2:16 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Monday, Dec 5 2022, ~3:01 AM - 3:16 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><a href="/2022/watch/dev/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></div> + + + # Talk <div class="vid"><video controls preload="none" id="detached-mainVideo"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="detached-mainVideo" data=""" @@ -20,6 +34,17 @@ In this talk, Niklas Eklund shows how to use detached to manage long-running asy # Q&A -<div class="vid"><video controls preload="none" id="detached-qanda"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers.webm" />${captions}<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div>Listen to just the audio:<br /><audio controls preload="none" id="detached-qanda-audio" src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers.opus"></audio></div><div></div><div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (53MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers.opus">Download --answers.opus (8.9MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> +<div class="vid"><video controls preload="none" id="detached-qanda"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers.webm" />${captions}<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="detached-qanda" data=""" +00:32.880 Can it replace ssh+tmux for persistent sessions on remote hosts? +01:16.880 I see integration with projectile in the readme. Does it also integrate with project.el? +03:51.240 Can you detach a session from shell-mode and reattach from eshell/vterm/term-mode? Or start a compile in shell-mode and attach it from compilation-mode? +05:45.120 How do you talk to detached? Could it be feasible to run a child Emacs instead of detached? +07:45.880 How does it handle processes that require user input? +09:20.000 Can you rerun a command (session?) but in another directory? +12:22.880 What are some other places where this might be useful? +16:59.720 What are you currently excited about in Emacs? +19:27.400 Bug in detached re: eshell and quotes + +"""]]<div>Listen to just the audio:<br /><audio controls preload="none" id="detached-qanda-audio" src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers.opus"></audio></div><div></div><div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (53MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers--chapters.vtt">Download --answers--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-detached--getting-detached-from-emacs--niklas-eklund--answers.opus">Download --answers.opus (8.9MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2022/talks/detached.md b/2022/talks/detached.md index 00a2bdcf..f4b17e92 100644 --- a/2022/talks/detached.md +++ b/2022/talks/detached.md @@ -11,12 +11,6 @@ Niklas Eklund (he/him, <mailto:niklas.eklund@posteo.net>) [[!inline pages="internal(2022/info/detached-before)" raw="yes"]] -[[!template id="help" -volunteer="" -summary="Q&A could be indexed with chapter markers" -tags="help_with_chapter_markers" -message="""The Q&A session for this talk does not have chapter markers yet. -Would you like to help? See [[help_with_chapter_markers]] for more details. You can use the vidid="detached-qanda" if adding the markers to this wiki page, or e-mail your chapter notes to <emacsconf-submit@gnu.org>."""]] As an enthusiastic Emacs user I would find myself replacing the usage @@ -72,14 +66,14 @@ makes sense to us as individuals is something to cherish. eshell/vterm/term-mode? Or start a compile in shell-mode and attach it from compilation-mode? - A: -- Q: How do you talk to **dtach? Could it be feasible to run a child - emacs instead of dtach? Would it make sense? Better communication - maybe?** +- Q: How do you talk to detached? Could it be feasible to run a child + emacs instead of detached? Would it make sense? Better communication + maybe? - A: - Q: How does it handle processes that require user input? (Usually to type y/n, etc). M-x compile is great but can't handle user input. - A: -- Q:Can you rerun a command (session?) but in another directory? +- Q: Can you rerun a command (session?) but in another directory? - A: - Q: What are some other places where this might be useful? mu4e fetching mail? Git processes started by Magit? What things would |