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diff --git a/2024/info/org-update-after.md b/2024/info/org-update-after.md index bf69babd..5d9af7b2 100644 --- a/2024/info/org-update-after.md +++ b/2024/info/org-update-after.md @@ -708,7 +708,7 @@ [[!template text="""Carsten in the room. So, we have three maintainers of Org""" start="00:00:30.600" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Mode right there in the room to answer all your questions.""" start="00:00:34.200" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So, it's a rare occasion that I invite all of you to seize the""" start="00:00:36.120" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""day on this. Ior, do you have anything maybe to say before we""" start="00:00:40.760" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""day on this. Ihor, do you have anything maybe to say before we""" start="00:00:40.760" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""start moving into the questions? Well, I hope that I said""" start="00:00:44.680" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""everything I wanted. Hello, Bastien. during the""" start="00:00:49.600" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""presentation. Well, actually, I can say a lot more, like""" start="00:00:51.760" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] @@ -725,7 +725,9 @@ [[!template text="""anything to contribute or our voice will just show the""" start="00:01:33.120" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""breeze later on. So the first question is relating to""" start="00:01:35.280" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""something you said about 10 minutes 34 that might speak more""" start="00:01:37.880" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""to you than to me. Is the track changes item about the org""" start="00:01:41.480" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to you than to me.""" start="00:01:41.480" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is the track-changes item about the org-element parser?""" start="00:01:42.686" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Is the track changes item about the org""" start="00:01:42.686" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""element parser Yes, the track changes is a new library that""" start="00:01:45.160" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""helps to receive changes in buffers incrementally. So like""" start="00:01:51.520" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you can, it has API where you can request what changes""" start="00:01:58.960" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] @@ -739,9 +741,10 @@ [[!template text="""it's a good idea to use built-in library when there is such an""" start="00:02:36.040" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""option, instead of running out our own implementation.""" start="00:02:40.440" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Definitely. Moving on to the second question, although I'm""" start="00:02:45.880" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""not sure it refers that much to what you can do. Could you""" start="00:02:49.400" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""please keep ISC alive? And I prefer it to make matrix. I mean,""" start="00:02:52.840" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""you did talk about ISC, right? But did we talk about phasing""" start="00:02:57.760" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not sure it refers that much to what you can do.""" start="00:02:49.400" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Could you please keep IRC alive? I prefer it to Matrix""" start="00:02:52.665" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Could you please keep IRC alive? And I prefer it to Matrix. I mean,""" start="00:02:52.665" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you did talk about IRC, right? But did we talk about phasing""" start="00:02:57.760" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""it out? So I try to be live on IRC, but I use mobile client for""" start="00:03:03.240" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""IRC to keep connected. So I usually connected, I usually see""" start="00:03:08.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""messages, except certain times when I don't have mobile""" start="00:03:13.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] @@ -750,22 +753,24 @@ [[!template text="""loud. I just don't know a good bouncer. I don't have a good""" start="00:03:23.400" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""setup for a bouncer. Okay.""" start="00:03:33.680" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Personally, I use WeChat usually to stay connected to""" start="00:03:36.400" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""email. It's obviously a client for LSC, but it also allows""" start="00:03:41.240" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""email. It's obviously a client for IRC, but it also allows""" start="00:03:41.240" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""you to, you know, you can keep it as a bouncer, but it's not in""" start="00:03:44.120" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Emacs. It is. I don't have a computer that is running 24""" start="00:03:47.960" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""hours, so. I mean, that's the thing. I do have a server to run""" start="00:03:54.160" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""it off. All right, moving on to the third question. That is""" start="00:03:56.840" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""what is running 24 hours. Right. Okay. All right. Moving on""" start="00:04:02.240" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""to the third question. Is there any plan for adding support""" start="00:04:06.560" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the third question.""" start="00:04:06.560" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is there any plan for adding support for other modalities of notes like handwritten, audio, etc.?""" start="00:04:07.988" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Is there any plan for adding support""" start="00:04:07.988" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for other modalities of note-like, handwritten, audio,""" start="00:04:09.520" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and et cetera? Would that be interesting to the community?""" start="00:04:11.960" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It will definitely be useful for me. I didn't. Okay. So this""" start="00:04:14.920" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is not the idea I hear frequently. So there's no plan for such""" start="00:04:20.320" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""thing. Modalities of notes like handwritten audio. I think""" start="00:04:25.400" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""John kitchen did some handwritten note.""" start="00:04:29.960" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""John kitchen. Yeah. And for audio, I think as well. I. So""" start="00:04:34.520" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""John Kitchin did some handwritten note.""" start="00:04:29.960" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""John Kitchin. Yeah. And for audio, I think as well. I. So""" start="00:04:34.520" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""basically you can use attachments, you can use images to""" start="00:04:46.120" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""paste you. I think john kitchen even use it to automatically""" start="00:04:49.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""paste you. I think John Kitchin even use it to automatically""" start="00:04:49.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""recognize notes.""" start="00:04:54.280" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I think the previous speaker was talking about a whisper to""" start="00:04:58.520" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""recognize voice. Right.""" start="00:05:05.360" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] @@ -870,7 +875,8 @@ [[!template text="""maintaining Org Mode, well, not actually just maintaining""" start="00:12:15.720" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Org Mode, but also inventing it. Carsten, how are you doing?""" start="00:12:18.200" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I am. I'm doing fine. A really great opportunity to be here.""" start="00:12:20.880" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""First, I would like to start by indeed thanking Basquiat""" start="00:12:26.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Community""" start="00:12:26.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""First, I would like to start by indeed thanking Bastien""" start="00:12:26.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""because, I mean, he was not only maintainer after I stopped,""" start="00:12:31.280" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but already during the time I was there, he was one of the key""" start="00:12:34.840" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""contributors who helped the project along for quite a bit.""" start="00:12:37.840" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] @@ -889,232 +895,239 @@ [[!template text="""Mode, and it's really amazing to see three giants of the""" start="00:13:27.640" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""community being able to maintain Org Mode for so long and""" start="00:13:31.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""contribute so much to it. So, again, thanks to all of you""" start="00:13:34.240" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""three. I must also admit that it's really amazing for me that""" start="00:13:38.200" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""All of you three stress the importance of the community a""" start="00:13:43.920" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""whole lot, and I know that Bastien, you've talked about""" start="00:13:48.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""maintaining software last year at Emacs Cons, and even""" start="00:13:52.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""today, during the one-minute little chat that you did in""" start="00:13:57.280" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""EOSChat, you stressed the importance of maintenance and to""" start="00:14:04.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""be future-oriented about it. I'm kind of wondering, why do""" start="00:14:10.720" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""you think community is so important to Org Mode in general?""" start="00:14:14.200" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Like, obviously we've talked about maintainers and we've""" start="00:14:18.400" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""talked about volunteers, but don't you think there's""" start="00:14:21.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""something more about community in general, about Org Mode""" start="00:14:29.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""and the fact that we are all taking notes and doing so much""" start="00:14:32.560" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""with it?""" start="00:14:37.320" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah, are you asking me?""" start="00:14:37.640" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""I remember Carsten made his point during the Google talk about""" start="00:14:38.600" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""three. I must also admit that it's really amazing for me""" start="00:13:38.200" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that all of you three stress the importance of the community""" start="00:13:40.982" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a whole lot, and I know that Bastien, you've talked about""" start="00:13:45.440" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maintaining software last year at Emacs Confs, and even""" start="00:13:48.480" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""today, during the one-minute little chat that you did in""" start="00:13:51.360" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Ihor's chat, you stressed the importance of maintenance and to""" start="00:13:55.520" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""be future-oriented about it. I'm kind of wondering, why do""" start="00:13:59.280" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you think community is so important to Org Mode in general?""" start="00:14:06.560" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like, obviously we've talked about maintainers and we've""" start="00:14:12.680" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""talked about volunteers, but don't you think there's""" start="00:14:14.680" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""something more about community in general, about Org Mode""" start="00:14:16.880" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the fact that we are all taking notes""" start="00:14:19.160" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and doing so much with it? Yeah, are you asking me?""" start="00:14:20.951" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I remember Carsten made his point during the Google talk about""" start="00:14:34.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the core idea of Org Mode, about mixing note taking and to-do""" start="00:14:40.680" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""manager. It was really powerful. And also in the same""" start="00:14:45.160" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""presentation that 98%""" start="00:14:49.960" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""of the features were organically developed as ideas by the""" start="00:14:53.400" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""community. And Ihor just said the same today in the""" start="00:14:57.600" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""presentation, like most of the features, not only the""" start="00:15:01.040" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""ideas, but also the code came from the communities. So""" start="00:15:06.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""that's why the community is so rich. And another thing is""" start="00:15:13.360" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""also that I do remember Now everyone is having kind of an open""" start="00:15:17.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""source fatigue and questions about how is it okay to be""" start="00:15:22.640" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""maintainer? How do you keep open source project""" start="00:15:30.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""sustainable? And I'm saying open source on purpose with""" start="00:15:34.480" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""this audience to see beyond just the small GNU project and""" start="00:15:38.720" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""the small free software community. So at large, there is""" start="00:15:42.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""some sense of fatigue. and I remember that the org community""" start="00:15:47.600" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""right from the beginning had a reputation of being an""" start="00:15:50.680" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""amazing community and I think it""" start="00:15:54.120" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""continues to be one and I'm amazed that sometimes when I'm,""" start="00:15:58.360" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""you know, sometimes I'm, I have this fatigue of moderating""" start="00:16:01.520" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""emails from the mailing list, for example, and filtering""" start="00:16:05.960" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""out spam. And then I go on the list and I read some emails and I""" start="00:16:11.280" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""feel like, okay, this is still there. And it's really a boost""" start="00:16:16.720" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""of energy. I wish that this repetition outside Org Mode,""" start="00:16:20.240" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""outside Emacs, of being a nice welcoming, community of""" start="00:16:24.080" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""knowledgeable people talking of things and learning from""" start="00:16:33.280" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""each other that we can keep up with this pace. Yeah, maybe if I""" start="00:16:39.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""can just add to this, I think you're making an extremely""" start="00:16:44.280" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""important point, Pascal. I think that was really, from the""" start="00:16:48.840" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""beginning, something that was really special. And I think""" start="00:16:53.280" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""the reason why we all community still works is that first me,""" start="00:17:00.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""but in particular also the two of you and more people have""" start="00:17:06.080" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""been able to keep up the friendly spirit in this community.""" start="00:17:10.400" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Because we had very few fights on the mailing list. There""" start="00:17:17.200" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""were a few at some point, we had a few contributors with a""" start="00:17:22.680" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""little bit of fights. And I remember that I, for example, had""" start="00:17:26.840" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""to invest a lot of time to keep that one under control, but I""" start="00:17:32.640" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""think it was totally worth it because as a group, as a whole, I""" start="00:17:39.960" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""think it was really fantastic. Our friendly people always""" start="00:17:49.040" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""were, and I think that has spurred all the contributions""" start="00:17:51.400" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""that we had. Because if you are in a toxic environment, will""" start="00:17:54.080" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""not be willing to stay and to invest all their time. And if you""" start="00:17:56.280" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""are in an appreciative environment where people support""" start="00:17:58.880" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""each other, it's a completely different game. So I really""" start="00:18:01.000" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""think that Altmut is a great example for open source""" start="00:18:03.440" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""projects that many other communities can learn from.""" start="00:18:06.960" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""If I may just interject for a second, because we need to go""" start="00:18:09.840" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""into the next chat for the live stream. But as usual, I invite""" start="00:18:13.160" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""you, if you're interested with the discussion, we are""" start="00:18:18.240" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""staying on BBB, asking questions to Bastien, to Ihor and""" start="00:18:20.320" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""to Carsten. So feel free to join on BBB and chat with them""" start="00:18:28.720" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""live. The stream will be moving on to the next chat, but we""" start="00:18:33.080" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""will be recording the Q&A and posting it afterwards on""" start="00:18:35.760" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Emacs.com. So, I'll use the opportunity to thank you again,""" start="00:18:38.640" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""all three, for taking part in this EmacsConf, and enjoy the""" start="00:18:42.160" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""discussion, and we'll see you later! Thank you, bye bye! 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Unlike""" start="00:19:19.080" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""now when we like we all rise for funding and stuff. So it's,""" start="00:19:23.760" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""it's really, it's really nice to, to, to have communities""" start="00:19:27.680" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""that has the spirit and they hope it can keep the spirit in""" start="00:19:31.800" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""future as well.""" start="00:19:42.440" video="qanda-org-update" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah. Yeah. I thought I'm very optimistic after. 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Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20org-update%3A%20The%20Future%20of%20Org) diff --git a/2024/info/org-update-before.md b/2024/info/org-update-before.md index f75ca40b..b722eede 100644 --- a/2024/info/org-update-before.md +++ b/2024/info/org-update-before.md @@ -44,6 +44,15 @@ Status: TO_INDEX_QA # Q&A -<div class="vid"><video controls preload="none" id="org-update-qanda"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--answers.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2024/captions/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--answers.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 30:39 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2024-org-update">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (68MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> +<div class="vid"><video controls preload="none" id="org-update-qanda"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--answers.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2024/captions/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--answers.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2024/captions/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--answers--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="org-update-qanda" data=""" +01:42.686 Q: Is the track-changes item about the org-element parser? +02:52.665 Q: Could you please keep IRC alive? I prefer it to Matrix +04:07.988 Q: Is there any plan for adding support for other modalities of notes like handwritten, audio, etc.? +12:26.800 Community +25:28.520 Off-stream Q&A +26:08.840 microemacs +29:31.920 Q: Is there/could there be a resource with which to recommend particularly well written codebases for review by others? + +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 30:39 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2024-org-update">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--answers--chapters.vtt">Download --answers--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (68MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
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