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diff --git a/2020/info/15.md b/2020/info/15.md index c61cd24f..98c711e1 100644 --- a/2020/info/15.md +++ b/2020/info/15.md @@ -2,7 +2,8 @@ Adolfo Villafiorita [[!template id=vid src="https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/emacsconf/2020/emacsconf-2020--15-moving-from-jekyll-to-orgmode-an-experience-report--adolfo-villafiorita.webm" subtitles="/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--15-moving-from-jekyll-to-orgmode-an-experience-report--adolfo-villafiorita.vtt"]] -[Download compressed .webm video (13.8M)](https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/emacsconf/2020/smaller/emacsconf-2020--15-moving-from-jekyll-to-orgmode-an-experience-report--adolfo-villafiorita--vp9-q56-video-original-audio.webm) +[Download compressed .webm video (13.8M)](https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/emacsconf/2020/smaller/emacsconf-2020--15-moving-from-jekyll-to-orgmode-an-experience-report--adolfo-villafiorita--vp9-q56-video-original-audio.webm) +[View transcript](#transcript) I have been a long time user of static site generators, such as Jekyll. @@ -48,3 +49,1062 @@ website. - Org mode files support in Jekyll - <https://emacs.cc/jekyll-org/>. - Mentioned: <http://juanjose.garciaripoll.com/blog/org-mode-html-templates/index.html> (org-html). - Other static webpage generators: <https://github.com/novoid/lazyblorg/wiki/Similar-Projects>. + +<a name="transcript"></a> +# Transcript + +00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.120 +Adolfo: Okay, excellent. + +00:00:03.120 --> 00:00:06.960 +Hello, everyone and + +00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:10.080 +nice meeting you. Let me + +00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:12.400 +thank the the organizer for all the + +00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:13.920 +organization and all the work they are + +00:00:13.920 --> 00:00:15.200 +doing to support us. + +00:00:15.200 --> 00:00:18.400 +My name is Adolfo Villafiorita. + +00:00:18.400 --> 00:00:20.733 +I'm teaching at the University of +Trento. + +00:00:20.733 --> 00:00:24.480 +I will shortly be working at + +00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:26.240 +shared.tech, which is + +00:00:26.240 --> 00:00:29.359 +a non-profit organization developing + +00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:30.530 +applications to + +00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:35.680 +recover surplus food. + +00:00:35.680 --> 00:00:38.600 +The reason of the talk today + +00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:40.079 +and the reason I'm here today + +00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:42.719 +is to talk about my experience in moving + +00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:47.200 +from Jekyll static website generator to +Org Mode. + +00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.700 +The reason I moved to Org Mode + +00:00:50.700 --> 00:00:53.100 +is to have better support for + +00:00:53.100 --> 00:00:56.800 +literate programming on the websites + +00:00:56.800 --> 00:00:58.399 +at the University of Trento, where we + +00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:00.480 +make available the content for the + +00:01:00.480 --> 00:01:04.720 +the students. + +00:01:04.720 --> 00:01:08.900 +First of all, what is a static +website generator? + +00:01:08.900 --> 00:01:10.080 +It is basically a tool which + +00:01:10.080 --> 00:01:11.360 +allows you to + +00:01:11.360 --> 00:01:15.360 +generate HTML files out of text files + +00:01:15.360 --> 00:01:17.439 +containing basically two types of + +00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:20.700 +information: metadata and content. + +00:01:20.700 --> 00:01:23.119 +Metadata is a + +00:01:23.119 --> 00:01:26.159 +set of key pairs describing the + +00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:28.560 +content of the file, such as the title, + +00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:31.733 +author, tags, and so on and so forth. + +00:01:31.733 --> 00:01:34.560 +The content is what you actually +want to + +00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.040 +get published on the Internet in + +00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:38.880 +the HTML file. + +00:01:38.880 --> 00:01:41.439 +Usually the content is written in + +00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:45.800 +some kind of markup language, + +00:01:45.800 --> 00:01:49.759 +such as Markdown or possibly + +00:01:49.759 --> 00:01:53.200 +Org Mode. Jekyll is a very + +00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:57.900 +popular static website generator. + +00:01:57.900 --> 00:01:59.840 +It is written in Ruby. + +00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:03.280 +What it does: it systematically + +00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:06.840 +transforms all the input files + +00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.440 +by making the content into + +00:02:09.440 --> 00:02:11.599 +HTML and systematically applying a + +00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:14.000 +template in order to generate the + +00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:17.120 +HTML files, which you can then deploy + +00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:19.840 +on your server of choice to make them + +00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:22.160 +available on the Internet. + +00:02:22.160 --> 00:02:26.160 +One of the features most-- + +00:02:26.160 --> 00:02:27.500 +well, I would say all + +00:02:27.500 --> 00:02:30.239 +static website generators have + +00:02:30.239 --> 00:02:32.560 +is that of being able to + +00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:34.879 +collect the metadata information + +00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:38.400 +of the files being part of + +00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:39.440 +your project. + +00:02:39.440 --> 00:02:45.280 +The reason they do that is because + +00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:47.840 +you sometimes want to generate pages + +00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:49.280 +based on the content + +00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.200 +of your projects, + +00:02:53.200 --> 00:02:56.239 +such as, for instance, the list of + +00:02:56.239 --> 00:02:59.040 +posts you have recently published, or + +00:02:59.040 --> 00:03:00.400 +maybe the list of tags + +00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:03.840 +you have defined for your post, + +00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.280 +and so on and so forth. + +00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.760 +Jekyll gives the possibility of + +00:03:09.760 --> 00:03:12.400 +generating this kind of dynamic + +00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:14.400 +content by using Liquid, + +00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:18.800 +which is a templating language which + +00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.840 +looks like this. + +00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:24.879 +So basically, you have all the + +00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:26.879 +constructs you can + +00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:28.800 +expect in a programming language. + +00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:29.920 +This, for instance, + +00:03:29.920 --> 00:03:33.360 +is a for cycle which + +00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:37.440 +iterates over all the posts or the + +00:03:37.440 --> 00:03:39.599 +files in a specific directory of the + +00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:41.040 +Jekyll project. + +00:03:41.040 --> 00:03:45.040 +For each post, it takes the title + +00:03:45.040 --> 00:03:48.400 +and the URL and generates a link. + +00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:52.867 +So Jekyll is nice and sweet, + +00:03:52.867 --> 00:03:55.200 +but over the years + +00:03:55.200 --> 00:03:57.760 +I started using more and more + +00:03:57.760 --> 00:03:59.519 +systematically + +00:03:59.519 --> 00:04:02.000 +Org Mode to write all my files. + +00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:04.833 +I moved from Markdown to Org Mode + +00:04:04.833 --> 00:04:07.200 +I am a long time Emacs user. + +00:04:07.200 --> 00:04:09.167 +I've been using Emacs for 30 years now, + +00:04:09.167 --> 00:04:12.799 +so Org Mode is a more recent discovery, + +00:04:12.799 --> 00:04:17.033 +but it is a very nice discovery I made. + +00:04:17.033 --> 00:04:19.680 +The reason I like Org Mode + +00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:22.320 +is because, for instance, you can write + +00:04:22.320 --> 00:04:24.933 +formulas using MathJax + +00:04:24.933 --> 00:04:26.639 +and you can generate diagrams + +00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:30.320 +or plots with Gnuplot. + +00:04:30.320 --> 00:04:32.240 +Also important is the fact that you have + +00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:34.080 +the possibility of publishing + +00:04:34.080 --> 00:04:39.520 +your documents to multiple backends +such as PDF, + +00:04:39.520 --> 00:04:43.600 +or maybe a Reveal presentation, + +00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:47.199 +or HTML. This is all made possible + +00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.479 +by Babel, which is + +00:04:50.479 --> 00:04:52.560 +exactly what we just saw in the + +00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:54.639 +previous talk: + +00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:57.440 +Namely, the possibility of executing a + +00:04:57.440 --> 00:04:59.520 +snippet of code + +00:04:59.520 --> 00:05:02.560 +embedded in in your pages. + +00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:06.400 +Our model can also be used + +00:05:06.400 --> 00:05:09.600 +within Jekyll. In fact, + +00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:13.667 +there is a a nice gem, a nice library, + +00:05:13.667 --> 00:05:17.233 +called jekyll-org which allows you + +00:05:17.233 --> 00:05:19.680 +to use Org Mode files directly + +00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:22.880 +into jekyll. But when you start using + +00:05:22.880 --> 00:05:26.560 +Org Mode... When I started using + +00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.560 +Org Mode, I realized I could move + +00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:34.240 +all my workflow, all my publishing + +00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:36.840 +workflow to Emacs. + +00:05:36.840 --> 00:05:41.100 +In fact, Org Mode is also a + +00:05:41.100 --> 00:05:42.880 +static website generator because + +00:05:42.880 --> 00:05:46.240 +it has got the possibility of publishing + +00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:50.880 +projects made of Org Mode files. + +00:05:50.880 --> 00:05:53.840 +One of the nice things about + +00:05:53.840 --> 00:05:56.479 +the publishing features of Org Mode + +00:05:56.479 --> 00:05:58.880 +is that it allows you to define in the + +00:05:58.880 --> 00:06:01.300 +org-publish-project-alist, + +00:06:01.300 --> 00:06:03.199 +all the the components + +00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:05.367 +which are part of your project. + +00:06:05.367 --> 00:06:07.520 +In a sense, it is + +00:06:07.520 --> 00:06:10.479 +also more flexible than Jekyll, + +00:06:10.479 --> 00:06:12.880 +because it also allows you, for instance, + +00:06:12.880 --> 00:06:15.120 +to publish a single file rather + +00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.440 +than having to recompile everything + +00:06:17.440 --> 00:06:20.080 +every time you want to publish your + +00:06:20.080 --> 00:06:22.333 +your project to your website. + +00:06:22.333 --> 00:06:25.333 +However, there are some short comments + +00:06:25.333 --> 00:06:29.520 +I would say, or some areas +of improvement. + +00:06:30.400 --> 00:06:33.600 +The first is that support for +templating + +00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:36.639 +is not so obvious as it is + +00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:39.280 +in Jekyll, even though there are some + +00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:44.560 +nice extensions such as org-thtml, + +00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:48.400 +for instance, which allows you to use +templates. + +00:06:48.400 --> 00:06:51.840 +More important to me was the fact that + +00:06:51.840 --> 00:06:54.080 +apparently, there is little support for + +00:06:54.080 --> 00:06:56.133 +the creation of dynamic content + +00:06:56.133 --> 00:06:57.900 +So I was very curious + +00:06:57.900 --> 00:06:59.360 +and very keen to use + +00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:02.800 +Org Mode for publishing my blog + +00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.440 +and the courses at the university, + +00:07:05.440 --> 00:07:08.720 +but then I had to find a way + +00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:11.440 +to being able to publish these + +00:07:11.440 --> 00:07:13.599 +dynamic pages, finding some kind of + +00:07:13.599 --> 00:07:16.000 +replacement, so to speak, + +00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:17.900 +for the liquid engine. + +00:07:17.900 --> 00:07:24.160 +The solution was there at hand, +actually, because + +00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.280 +basically, I realized I could use Babel + +00:07:27.280 --> 00:07:30.800 +for exactly this purpose. Rather than + +00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:32.720 +using Babel for generating + +00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.759 +plots or my other computations + +00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:37.919 +or whatever I was using them for, + +00:07:37.919 --> 00:07:41.039 +I realized I could use Babel to + +00:07:41.039 --> 00:07:45.120 +generate HTML which could be + +00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:49.967 +then published in the project + +00:07:49.967 --> 00:07:53.680 +All I needed to do then + +00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:56.100 +was defining some kind of functions, + +00:07:56.100 --> 00:07:58.319 +some kind of code in order to read + +00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.840 +the metadata of all + +00:08:01.840 --> 00:08:04.767 +the Org Mode files of my web project, + +00:08:04.767 --> 00:08:09.680 +so that I could then publish-- + +00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:13.280 +generate the dynamic content. + +00:08:13.280 --> 00:08:18.080 +This is a snippet taken from + +00:08:18.080 --> 00:08:21.759 +one of my HTML projects, + +00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:24.800 +which basically shows the way in which + +00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.599 +I generate the list of posts on + +00:08:27.599 --> 00:08:32.560 +my page. It is exactly how the +Liquid that we saw + +00:08:32.560 --> 00:08:35.680 +a couple of slides earlier that +looks like + +00:08:35.680 --> 00:08:39.200 +in Org Mode. + +00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:42.320 +Basically, what I'm doing... +I'm using... + +00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:46.720 +I wrote a Ruby script which + +00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.680 +reads all the metadata. So this + +00:08:49.680 --> 00:08:51.040 +highlighted code + +00:08:51.040 --> 00:08:53.100 +basically loads the script + +00:08:53.100 --> 00:08:55.300 +which is stored externally. + +00:08:55.300 --> 00:08:56.800 +Then it collects all the + +00:08:56.800 --> 00:08:58.320 +metadata from the + +00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:00.880 +Org Mode files in the + +00:09:00.880 --> 00:09:02.240 +current directory. + +00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.800 +And then the following... The code + +00:09:04.800 --> 00:09:06.480 +you can see here + +00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:09.839 +basically iterates over all the + +00:09:09.839 --> 00:09:12.959 +posts read at the previous step. + +00:09:12.959 --> 00:09:16.399 +It generates + +00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:19.519 +a list with the title + +00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:22.959 +and the URLS, basically + +00:09:22.959 --> 00:09:27.440 +replicating what Jekyll does. + +00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:30.240 +There are some other things + +00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.399 +I have to deal with in order to + +00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:36.480 +accommodate my workflow. But that was + +00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:39.200 +relatively easy in the sense that one of + +00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.279 +the problems, one of the issues I had to + +00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.360 +solve was that of having + +00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.480 +a common navigation on all my + +00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:51.040 +pages. That was easily solved + +00:09:51.040 --> 00:09:53.867 +using the #+INCLUDE feature. + +00:09:53.867 --> 00:09:54.959 +So I basically + +00:09:54.959 --> 00:09:56.000 +made available + +00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:57.839 +an #+INCLUDE with all the navigation + +00:09:57.839 --> 00:10:00.560 +which is embedded in all the pages of + +00:10:00.560 --> 00:10:01.839 +my websites + +00:10:01.839 --> 00:10:03.733 +through the #+INCLUDE. + +00:10:03.733 --> 00:10:06.160 +Another nice feature which + +00:10:06.160 --> 00:10:08.560 +Jekyll has is the possibility of + +00:10:08.560 --> 00:10:12.800 +previewing a website before deploying it. + +00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.079 +Emacs also has got a node which allows + +00:10:16.079 --> 00:10:21.200 +you to launch a web server. In fact, + +00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.320 +I wrote a quick hack + +00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:26.959 +which allows you to + +00:10:26.959 --> 00:10:31.519 +invoke a node on an Org Mode + +00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.720 +project, start a local preview, + +00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:37.920 +and then use rsync + +00:10:37.920 --> 00:10:44.839 +in order to deploy the the website. + +00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.720 +Five minutes left. More than + +00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.200 +enough. Okay. + +00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:52.967 +Thanks. Thank you, thank you very much. + +00:10:52.967 --> 00:10:56.480 +I'm nearly done. So then I can take +some questions. + +00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:00.560 +Just to give you maybe + +00:11:00.560 --> 00:11:03.680 +a slightly more in-depth + +00:11:03.680 --> 00:11:06.480 +view of what the pages look like, + +00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:07.200 +so these are + +00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:11.120 +one of the pages, or the source files + +00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.720 +of one of the websites. It is + +00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:18.480 +in literate programming. Basically, + +00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:20.399 +you see there is some metadata here. + +00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.640 +I mean this is a regular Org Mode file. + +00:11:22.640 --> 00:11:26.640 +This part here + +00:11:26.640 --> 00:11:29.920 +basically defines some common options + +00:11:29.920 --> 00:11:31.519 +for publication. + +00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.920 +These two includes here + +00:11:35.920 --> 00:11:41.120 +put some extra HTML in the head part and + +00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:44.480 +the navigation. Here, as you can see, + +00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:48.079 +is the code generating the + +00:11:48.079 --> 00:11:50.160 +the list in chronological order. It is + +00:11:50.160 --> 00:11:52.240 +slightly more complex than the example I + +00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:53.839 +made in the slide + +00:11:53.839 --> 00:11:56.240 +because there is some more + +00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.760 +elaboration to do, including +putting some + +00:11:59.760 --> 00:12:01.839 +Javascript to identify + +00:12:01.839 --> 00:12:05.120 +according to the tags. + +00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:08.160 +To go back to the presentation... + +00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.067 +I managed this migration + +00:12:13.067 --> 00:12:14.560 +a few months ago, + +00:12:14.560 --> 00:12:17.680 +and then all my workflow is within + +00:12:17.680 --> 00:12:20.399 +Org Mode and within Emacs. + +00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:23.079 +I'm very happy with it because it's + +00:12:23.079 --> 00:12:26.800 +simplified quite a bit + +00:12:26.800 --> 00:12:28.480 +my publication process. + +00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.839 +One of the advantages... Another + +00:12:31.839 --> 00:12:34.240 +advantage... So the first advantage is that + +00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:36.959 +everything is in Org Mode and Emacs. + +00:12:36.959 --> 00:12:38.160 +Second advantage + +00:12:38.160 --> 00:12:41.680 +is that everything is based on the + +00:12:41.680 --> 00:12:44.880 +standard machinery provided by Org Mode. + +00:12:44.880 --> 00:12:47.760 +So in a sense, it is + +00:12:47.760 --> 00:12:50.079 +more robust with respect to + +00:12:50.079 --> 00:12:53.040 +dependencies, possible errors, and so + +00:12:53.040 --> 00:12:54.320 +on and so forth. + +00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.639 +The fact that Org Mode + +00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:58.240 +allows you to publish + +00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:00.880 +a single file in a project is also + +00:13:00.880 --> 00:13:03.839 +very interesting because + +00:13:03.839 --> 00:13:07.839 +it allows to be more robust to + +00:13:07.839 --> 00:13:11.040 +problems you might introduce when + +00:13:11.040 --> 00:13:14.959 +you're changing--when I'm changing the +setup. + +00:13:14.959 --> 00:13:16.880 +Another interesting thing which I + +00:13:16.880 --> 00:13:21.519 +realized that I could have is that + +00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.600 +in a sense, the specification of the + +00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:28.480 +website can be embedded in the website +itself. + +00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.800 +In a sense this is some kind of + +00:13:30.800 --> 00:13:31.839 +self-documenting... + +00:13:31.839 --> 00:13:35.120 +It's a way of self-documenting + +00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:36.600 +what I'm actually doing. + +00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:44.133 +For instance, here on my website, + +00:13:44.133 --> 00:13:46.399 +you can see the + +00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:48.240 +specification of the + +00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.519 +project which is loaded + +00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.933 +from my initialization file, + +00:13:53.933 --> 00:13:56.320 +but then it is also published + +00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.440 +together with my home page. It lives + +00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:01.360 +with the repository where + +00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.360 +I keep all the sources of my website, + +00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:08.079 +which is kind of nice because it + +00:14:08.079 --> 00:14:09.839 +basically isolates + +00:14:09.839 --> 00:14:14.079 +everything in a single place. + +00:14:14.079 --> 00:14:16.880 +So there are some examples. I'm + +00:14:16.880 --> 00:14:19.433 +showing them more because of the + +00:14:19.433 --> 00:14:21.760 +source code which + +00:14:21.760 --> 00:14:25.519 +you can grab from the git repositories + +00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:26.933 +if you are interested. + +00:14:26.933 --> 00:14:28.399 +Of course I'm also available + +00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.600 +to provide some support and help + +00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:32.959 +if you are interested + +00:14:32.959 --> 00:14:34.480 +in this kind of stuff. + +00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.760 +The the next step for me will be that of + +00:14:37.760 --> 00:14:41.600 +trying, making this kind of +machinery available + +00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.199 +for more general use at the moment. + +00:14:45.199 --> 00:14:47.120 +If you are interested in trying out my + +00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:48.800 +suggestion, grabbing the + +00:14:48.800 --> 00:14:51.933 +sources for one of the websites + +00:14:51.933 --> 00:14:54.700 +to seehow they look like, + +00:14:54.700 --> 00:14:56.720 +and maybe try and + +00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.160 +customize it for your purposes... + +00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:03.839 +This is basically the content of my talk. + +00:15:03.839 --> 00:15:06.959 +I'm open to questions and thank you + +00:15:06.959 --> 00:15:10.880 +for your attention. + +00:15:10.880 --> 00:15:12.880 +(Amin: Thank you very much, Adolfo, for your + +00:15:12.880 --> 00:15:14.480 +awesome presentation. + +00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:17.360 +I think we have time for maybe like + +00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:19.360 +one or two questions, + +00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:21.279 +and then the rest maybe you could + +00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:26.639 +take up after the stream.) + +00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:28.033 +Adolfo: What should we do? + +00:15:28.033 --> 00:15:30.000 +(Amin: Would you like me + +00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.839 +to read you the questions?) + +00:15:31.839 --> 00:15:35.199 +Adolfo: Yeah, probably better because + +00:15:35.199 --> 00:15:36.700 +I'm kind of lost there. + +00:15:36.700 --> 00:15:40.399 +(Amin: Okay, no problem. + +00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:42.480 +So someone asks, "Do you have any + +00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:45.440 +opinion on Firn?") + +00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:48.639 +Adolfo: Firn. I don't know Firn, + +00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:51.839 +so I'll give it a try + +00:15:51.839 --> 00:15:55.040 +and check it out. + +00:15:55.040 --> 00:15:57.839 +(Amin: Thanks. People are also asking, + +00:15:57.839 --> 00:15:59.680 +do you discuss this, for example, in a blog + +00:15:59.680 --> 00:16:01.279 +or anywhere else they could find more + +00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:02.800 +about it?) + +00:16:02.800 --> 00:16:05.600 +Adolfo: Oh yes. I'm going to publish the + +00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.560 +the talk and the content + +00:16:08.560 --> 00:16:11.120 +on my website, and then I'll link it from + +00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.067 +the EmacsConf conference + +00:16:13.067 --> 00:16:14.720 +so that it will be easier for + +00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:16.533 +people to to reach it + +00:16:16.533 --> 00:16:19.040 +I will shortly make it + +00:16:19.040 --> 00:16:22.880 +available right after the conference. + +00:16:22.880 --> 00:16:26.160 +(Amin: Wonderful. I think that's all +for the questions. + +00:16:26.160 --> 00:16:27.667 +Thank you very much.) + +00:16:27.667 --> 00:16:29.600 +Adolfo: Thank you very much. Thank you. + +00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:34.800 +(Amin: Cheers.) Adolfo: Bye, cheers. (Amin: Bye.) |