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diff --git a/2025/talks/weights.md b/2025/talks/weights.md index 49c5db8b..ea1c2908 100644 --- a/2025/talks/weights.md +++ b/2025/talks/weights.md @@ -35,6 +35,51 @@ many apps constantly trying to push subscriptions. Knowing the many things org-mode can do, I set about trying to replicate the same functionality in Emacs. +## Discussion / notes + +- Q: Very cool! It would be nice to build some One-rep max calculation + formulae into calc + - A: +- Q:Do you have plans to extend this to clock-report kind of + reporting? graphical reports, etc? + - A: Yes, yeah, exactly. Graphical reports. These are all something that, It currently doesn't have, and these nice apps do have. They have charts of all kinds. You can see your progress from week to week on various exercise. They have charts galore, all these fancy apps. And in theory, it wouldn't be hard at all to like, 'cause like, you know, there's gnuplot. There's those, and then they have like very good packages on any of them. So, I mean, I assume integration would be pretty seamless. So yes, that is definitely on the list of things I want to do. +- Q: Have you ever wanted to modify the functionality on your mobile + device while working out? Any good or challenging experiences or + tips with that? + - A: Yeah, that's actually funny. There was a time where, yeah, I mean, like debugging, there was like some bug I was having with my code. And so I have, in the middle of a workout, yeah, start, like, open up the debugger and kind of, and the cool thing is that, I mean, the biggest thing, like, the biggest thing by far is unexpected keyboard. <https://github.com/Julow/Unexpected-Keyboard> Like, I can't state how, I don't know how much Unexpected Keyboard is, because, like, with Unexpected, with the Unexpected, with that keyboard, you can literally just, like, it's, it's not hard at all to, like, you can do M-x or C-M-x or you know C-u C-M-x to debug, like, you can do all the key bindings with unexpected keyboard. There's no problem whatsoever with that part. The only part is muscle memory. It's because you get the muscle memory of the emacs key binding and so you have to kind of like yeah... I mean that translation is actually kind of you have to think about it like, like, okay, what was that key binding again? And you have to kind of like do it with your fingers. And it was like doing it on the, on Android is, I mean, it takes a little longer and it's just a different, yeah, different set of different muscle memory. +- Q: Sorry, if you covered this, but does the rest timer end with an audible notification at the end of the time? + - A: That's the cool thing. So with the Emacs, with the Android notification settings, you can, I can show that again in more detail. So bonus settings, apps, pick the app, notifications. And then here we get that org-fit-rest-over. And so here you can set, for example, whether it's a silent notification. And so this won't, this won't make it make noise. You can do... or like make it have a noise, and so you can have it make sure it's popped on the screen and then you can just pick whatever ringtone you want, and you can make it look like yeah. Then obviously you have the whole volume setting, so you can, when you're working you can just set the volume pretty high, so if you do happen to set your phone kind of away, you set the volume high, maybe make a really annoying sound, a loud sound you won't miss. And then, yeah, you'll be set. So that works. That was actually one of the biggest surprises. I wasn't expecting that to work so nice. +- Q: You mentioned file sync, what have you found works well for you? + - A: So in terms of what, yeah, I did have to play around with this a lot, but Syncthing Fork is what I eventually settled on. I mean, this is another thing that, I mean, I don't, it wouldn't nearly be as usable, like Emacs wouldn't be nearly usable without it. So Syncthing Fork essentially, okay. And then I also have like a droplet on DigitalOcean, just like, so that's kind of like the whole, that's kind of like what bridges it together. So like, so my Emacs can sync to that, and then my machine also syncs to that. And so I don't have to have them both on the same time. It's just there, that copy. And so that works pretty well. I also found that editing code in general, I think this also goes with the development experience question. +- Q: HAve you tried other keyboards such as Hacker\'s keyboard + - A: Not recently. I haven't, so I couldn't compare them. + - Q: Another keyboard question - have you tried the \"flickboard\" + on f-droid? It\'s the craziest keyboard, you use one thumb + - A: Oh, that is interesting. Let me see. Flickboard. Flickboard. Yeah, I'll have to try that. I'm curious to get the key bindings done. I wonder if the key bindings and all that work. I hope that's interesting. I'll definitely look into that. +- Q: This user interface is simplified but still keyboard based, can + you think of ways to make it more touch based? + - A: So the only thing currently, I think, of specific touch-based functionality I have, which, so this is like, so let's see, it's C-x C-+, That key binding wrong, what was it? Okay, whatever. Yeah, so in terms of touch commands, so pressing on a headline will actually unfold it and move your cursor to the next field that you, yeah, so like, yeah, at the beginning of the table. So like, there's that, yeah, and so. It sounds like that is something you're thinking about. Yeah, exactly. Like, you know, maybe like a little thing at the bottom, like, so this thing has the, this app has this, if you notice, like, if you do something, it has this rest timer at the bottom. So I mean, it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be pretty, it wouldn't be, it seems quite doable to just have like, maybe something at the bottom, like for a timer, and then you can just like plus 15 seconds or cancel it or, you know, just, and then those could all be just like touch based. And so, yeah. And then obviously just like, just like classic Emacs, the Emacs, like clicking actions, they just, yeah, they work just fine. Like, so there's no like weird Android touch thing you have to worry about. +- Q: I\'m curious about the development experience. Do you do + everything on the phone? + - A: And that's the thing. None of my development in general is done on the phone. just because, for one, my muscle memory isn't there, and two, just in general, typing on a virtual keyboard on the phone, it's just really slow. So yeah, all the development is done on my machine, but then there's the problem of you have to have an init.l in your Android, and so you're going to have to write, you know, I found like you'd have to like, when you first get Emacs set up, you might have to like write some, I don't know, like you'll kind of have to like get into your init file and then just like, maybe just like start to put things together. But the cool thing is with Syncthing Fork, I'm syncing my, I'm setting it to load off of a sync directory. Like this, this init file, my Android file is synced with my machine. So if I wanted to, I could just edit it on my machine and just have that synced automatically. So that makes like the whole, like in it, cause like it's, it's such a, like, that is one of the, it's just like get in, sit writing your init.el in Emacs on Android is just kind of a... + + [Corwin]: I think that's like. That's an extremely good tip, right? That if we're, as we're exploring Android, we want to think about that as adding support for another port of Emacs. So the whole dance of, oh, I took, you know, I took, you know, I took my init and I wanted to use it on BSD after mostly using GNU Linux. Now we're going in and we're looking at our Emacs. all of our Emacs and it stuff and thinking about compatibility, turning features on and off based on the OS that we're running underneath and so on. I think that's pretty heads up advice. +- Q: Have you thought about integrating cardio tracking like timed runs, bike rides, etc? + - A: Yes, I definitely thought about that. And that might be another thing where a touch interface might be helpful. I don't know if I can easily pull it up, but the app itself, oh yeah, here it is. So you can see kind of how they have, and you can kind of see how this fits. This is like an org, you can see that these are just tables, right? This is just like this whole interface in general, just like kind of screams like an org mode, file with you have you have your different headings like here's a warm-up heading and then you have the tables and you know you could just like envision how you could have a org table with one of the columns called time and then you could just imagine like there'd be a button there and you can just have it click, and then you'd have a timer in the background that would update this timer. It's so, I mean, conceptually, there's nothing really, it conceptually maps really well to this. So yeah, I mean, that's definitely something. +- Q: Seems like a great use case to combine with some of the other + talks like Ramin\'s UI demos, maybe some speech/LLM stuff. And + Hyperbole\'s M-RET! + - A: +- Q: emacs on android can be installed on a GrapheneOS-set up device too, can't it? + - yes it is available in f-droid + - Oh man... I haven't used a smartphone in a while, but I'm really excited to take advantage of all of the Emacs features people have made once I pick one back up. I got a Linux phone that should hopefully be arriving relatively soon here 😊 + - Touch seems so wildly usable nowadays. That's so awesome 😊 + - which one? I'm using the Jolla C2 Community Edition with SailfishOS + - Oh nice! 😊 I ordered a FuriPhone quite a while ago, but it got really hit hard by tariffs. It seems like it's finally happening now 😊 + - Oh I saw that one :) I think its quite a bit more powerful than my one + - I'm so looking forward to it. 🙂 I think it'll have a *little* performance bump coming from my original PinePhone 😛 + - next to the fully fledged Emacs, an app on Android like beorg on iOS would be great companion. when using orgmode content especially as todo/checklist tool, then an app designed for mobile UI with touch operations is key for easy use onthego. +- I'm very interested in this as I work on similar problems in this space at work [[!inline pages="internal(2025/info/weights-after)" raw="yes"]] |