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diff --git a/2024/talks/students.md b/2024/talks/students.md index 7a6168ba..71ca63d8 100644 --- a/2024/talks/students.md +++ b/2024/talks/students.md @@ -39,6 +39,134 @@ Linux, programming, and customizable/libre software. I have been using Emacs since 2022, starting with DOOM Emacs. +# Discussion + +## Questions and answers + +- Q: I use org-roam for notes and find it very useful - have you + considered it? + - A: I know about it; started with it, actually. Didn't like the + dependancy on an external db, e.g. if using syncthing from a + laptop to a desktop. Fair enough. +- Q: Do you use the Getting Things Done methodology as part of your + Org workflow? + - A: I started with org, and then heard about GTD, so I didn't + exactly design my workflow with that in mind. + - I probably don't do it the exact way. + - audience: I can never Get Things Done :-\\ + - \<gs-101\> Personally, I just add checkboxes to TODO + headings. For example. I scheduled to learn scheme today: + - \* TODO Study Scheme \[0/4\] + - \- \[ \] A Scheme Primer + - \- \[ \] Structure and Interpretation of Computer + Programs + - \- \[ \] Video lectures of thre previous book + - \- \[ \] The Scheme Programming Language Fourth Edition + - And each checkbox is a link to a bibliographic note of + the book/video. +- Q:org-fc and org-drill are emacs org mode centric flash card + solutions, have you looked into them? + - A: Looked into org-drill, but wanted to use Anki because I + wanted to use it on my phone, so that demotivated me. +- Q:What do other students think about your approach - and what are + they doing instead (if anything)? And your teachers - what do they + think? + - A: Other students are usually just confused. They know I use + Linux but they don't know what it is, so they assume that + everything I do on my computer is hacking or doing some Linux + thing. I don't usually bother explaining it to them. That's + one of the reasons I made this talk, so I can refer people who + are actually interested in it instead of superficially + interested in it. + - For my teachers, I think\... I showed them this year for the + first time. It didn't really interact where they would see what + happens. Export to LaTeX\... I did that for my physics class. My + teacher was pretty satisfied with the results for the math + programming. I think they don't really have a problem with it. + It's actually more convenient. + - audience: I'm a teacher and I'd be over the moon. And if I + didn't know it yet, I'd be super inspired. I use it with + all my students (some complain but the best ones adopt it + pretty effortlessly). +- Q: What was your biggest source of frustration/friction/confusion + when getting started with Emacs? + - A: I don't really remember; it somehow just clicked one day. +- Q: How did you come across Emacs? What got you into it?+1 + - A: I get asked this quite a bit; I have a prepaired answer. + Similar to how I stumbled into Linux. Saw screen-shots on + Reddit, saw video on YouTube (doom cast is what got me really + into it). Chat recommended: SystemCrafters' videos; yes, as + well as prot's videos about completion and embark. i would + watch videos while washing dishes. +- Q: What the situation with respect to "mobile" use (if ever + that's applicable)? (yes, Orgzly\...using that?) + - A: Didn't want to use a paid-app to sync files, didn't need + to look into too much because I carry a notebook and usually a + laptop. I've seen others get started with eink tablets, can't + attest to how good that is. +- Q: Has using emacs led to expanded interest in programming/computer + science? (apologies if I forgot from your presentation) (+1; emacs + configuration seems like a natural entry-point into learning + programming) + - A: Emacs is what got me started with lisp specifically, + otherwise I might not have looked into it that much other than + dabbling with Scheme from the Structures and Interpertations of + Computer Science book. I was into programming before Emacs. I + used vscode then vim, before emacs, but now I've done most of + my programming in Emacs. +- Q:You mentioned exporting notes, essays, etc. for handing them on to + other people. How does interaction with others work in technical + terms? We mostly find workflows centered around Microsoft products. + How do you manage with that? (+1; now that computers are fully + integrated into education, how do you deal with conflicts in terms + of the tools and workflows others expect you to use?) + - A: + +## Notes + +- Evangelism. We need more of that. Like the quote "Investing in your + future". Going to spread this. +- \<lounge-081\> (This high-schooler is definitely going places!) +- \* pizzapal makes note of anki +- For creating flash cards entirely from inside Emacs, there's + Gnosis: + [https://thanosapollo.org/projects/gnosis/](https://thanosapollo.org/projects/gnosis/){rel="noreferrer noopener"} +- \<robin\> i started living in emacs around age 13, this talk is + definitely bringing back a lot of memories \^\^ + - \<kswiss\> robin: wow! do you remember how you heard the first + time about emacs back then? + - \<robin\> kswiss, hearing about some "linux" thing on the + radio and reading some LJ copies -\> my dad bought an old pc + from a grad student -\> reading a bunch of those "learn + everything about gnu/linux" tomes -\> switch todebian and + deciding to try out that Other Editor +- \<johnhamelink\> 👏👏👏 well done! +- \<ElephantErgo\> Great talk! Thank you! I'm really going to have to + try out some of those packages 😊 +- \<oylenshpeegul, karthik\> 👏 +- \<jkm\> 👏👏 +- \<robin\> 👏👏👏 +- \<FlowyCoder\> 👏👏👏👏 +- \<kswiss\> 👏 (i wish i would have discovered emacs also in my + school time) +- \<ElfOfPi\> 👏👏👏👏👏 +- \<lounge-548\> Fanstastic talk! I will save the link to the talk for + new users of org-mode. +- fantastic talk ty +- Like the moderator, too, very upbeat just what I need on this day + of drizzle. +- Yes, 30-40 years back \*sigh\* +- \<gs-101\> I hope I get praised this much by the professors if I'm + able to join university 😄 +- \<robin\> ah bardman is gone, if there are more people with + "learning scheme" on their TODO list, there'll be a sicp reading + group next year (loosely affiliated with + ##transgeeks/#guile-emacs/#systemcrafters), i think daviwil of + systemcrafters.net also runs guile scheme courses from time to time + - \<robin\> privmsg or email me if you want a direct notification, + but i'll be mentioning it occasionally in those channels when + they're close to starting + [[!inline pages="internal(2024/info/students-after)" raw="yes"]] |