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diff --git a/2024/talks/hyperbole.md b/2024/talks/hyperbole.md index 198ad712..33663038 100644 --- a/2024/talks/hyperbole.md +++ b/2024/talks/hyperbole.md @@ -30,6 +30,88 @@ See also: - [EmacsConf - 2023 - talks - What I learned by writing test cases for GNU Hyperbole](https://emacsconf.org/2023/talks/test) - [[!taglink CategoryHyperbole]] +# Discussion + +## Questions and answers + +- Q: Hey, how is the log buffer generated? + - A: interaction-log package +- Q: So, the "select a thing" C-c RET is similar to expand-region? How does it behave in codes (functions, class, ...) + - A: Behaves exactly the same. +- Q:I know you Hyperbole devs are active and interested in sharing and + interoperating with other emacs tools. What is a recent tool that you find exciting to think about using in combination with Hyperbole, or would like to suggest using in combination with it? + - A: Lately, focussing on making Hyperbole work with org-mode so + that they may interoperate. + - The idea with Hyperbole is not to be better than everything + else, but to be a connector between the different modes. + - ace-window is a small, great package that selects windows or + displays a buffer in them. Hyperbole extends this a bit letting + you theow a region or buffer to a window or replace its contents + with another buffer. This is documented in the Hyperbole + manual. + - There's also C-@ (mark-org-subtree) which + interferes with Hyperbole + - Can you explain how it interferes? Any conflict would + likely be a bug, not an incompatibility. + - Sometimes, it does clash with other modes, especially M-RET. +- Q: Hi Mats! Can I ask you a technical question about Hyperbole? Many + years ago I tried to learn hyperbole but I gave up after some + time\... I remember that I found the code of the dispatcher very + hard to understand. Anyway, here is the question: if I type M-RET on + this button - {C-h h d d} - Hyperbole detects the extent of the + button and the kind of the button, and at some point it probably + calls a Lisp function with the argument "C-h h d d", and that + function makes emacs behave as if the user had typed C-h h d d. Do + you know what function is that? + - A:See the defib of kbd-key in the hib-kbd.el file. That is an + implicit button type defined via defib which invokes an action + type of the same name defined with defact. Just read the code + and you'll see how it works. +- Q: is hyperbole easy to turn on and off nowadays? I remember that many years ago just having it installed would make it change some behaviours globally + - audience: yes just a hyperbole-mode to toggle or (hyperbole-mode -1) to make sure to disable + - audience: I can usually just type M-x hyperbole to toggle it + +## Notes + +- Hyperbole looks like an incredible tool but I can't quite + seem to get it. These examples make me want to try again though :) + - Same here, I actually leave it in the background and hit M-RET + from time to time :D +- "take away your freedom" 🤔 "ta bort din + frihet" 🙁 +- nice talk! Hyperbole is in my TODO list for some + time already, I should bring it to the top\... +- I think that Hyperbole is a little diamon inside Emacas +- ditto! it seems a wonderful grab-bag of random nifty + stuff :) +- alzai: I always viewed it as this mysterious tool. Some + users recommend it but there's no simple overview of it. But I'd + say this was one. + - gs-101: for me one of the problems with hyperbole is + the lack of examples in the documentation + - We have written multiple example use files included in + Hyperbole, a full Texinfo manual and a number of videos but + maybe we should add a step-by-step how to use it for new users. +- \* NullNix suspects hyperbole window configs and winner window + configs might be\... confusing if used together :) \[11:47\] +- Maybe it could be jokingly summarized as + do-everything-at-point +- well, I got lost around several types of buttons - + cheatsheet would be huge help for jumping in +- \[re transient discussion\]: Very excited for the Org + move to transient. +- sachac: In the org-update talk, Ihor mentioned wanting to move some + more of the Org functionality into libraries that other packages + could take advantage of, so it might be interesting to see what + might be good to share with each other. + - Could this be akin to refactoring useful features from emacs + packages into emacs itself, especially if that feature is widely + used and useful across many packages. +- one of those legendary packages i've just never quite + gotten around to learning +- Yeah, Hyperbole does way too much to be integrated into core Emacs imo +- I promise study Hyperbole for the next Emacsconf. Hyperbole it's a great tool + [[!inline pages="internal(2024/info/hyperbole-after)" raw="yes"]] [[!inline pages="internal(2024/info/hyperbole-nav)" raw="yes"]] |