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diff --git a/2024/info/transducers-after.md b/2024/info/transducers-after.md index 47a78c63..f48b41d4 100644 --- a/2024/info/transducers-after.md +++ b/2024/info/transducers-after.md @@ -1,14 +1,10 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-after-page --> -<div class="transcript transcript-mainVideo"><a name="transducers-mainVideo-transcript"></a> +<div class="transcript transcript-mainVideo"><a name="transducers-mainVideo-transcript"></a><h1>Transcript</h1> -# Transcript - -[[!template new="1" text="""Intro""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Hi everyone, this is EmacsConf 2024. I'm Colin, and today""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Intro""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Hi everyone, this is EmacsConf 2024. I'm Colin, and today""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'll be talking about transducers.""" start="00:00:10.800" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""After introducing them, I'll share a bit of history about""" start="00:00:17.320" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""transducers and the problems that they solve, some basics""" start="00:00:21.880" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -17,9 +13,7 @@ [[!template text="""use them in the wild, and then some other discussions about""" start="00:00:32.400" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""issues that they have.""" start="00:00:36.960" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""What are transducers?""" start="00:00:41.520" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Okay, let's get right in. What are transducers?""" start="00:00:41.520" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""What are transducers?""" start="00:00:41.520" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Okay, let's get right in. What are transducers?""" start="00:00:41.520" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Transducers are a way to do streaming iteration with a""" start="00:00:46.400" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""modern API.""" start="00:00:49.680" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Who are transducers for, and thereby, who is""" start="00:00:55.680" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -57,9 +51,7 @@ [[!template text="""science, one being cache validation and the other being""" start="00:03:21.880" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""naming things.""" start="00:03:25.760" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Common issues""" start="00:03:27.590" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""I've identified five other problems that""" start="00:03:27.590" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Common issues""" start="00:03:27.590" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""I've identified five other problems that""" start="00:03:27.590" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""come up when we're trying to deal with collections of data,""" start="00:03:29.800" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or big streams of data. One is that if we were trying to""" start="00:03:33.200" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""load a file all into memory all at once and process the whole""" start="00:03:40.600" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -91,9 +83,7 @@ [[!template text="""without the addition of new language features, and with""" start="00:05:39.840" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""little more than plain old function composition.""" start="00:05:44.040" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Transducers""" start="00:05:47.280" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""If this is your first time hearing of transducers, yeah,""" start="00:05:47.280" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Transducers""" start="00:05:47.280" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""If this is your first time hearing of transducers, yeah,""" start="00:05:47.280" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""no problem. They were originally invented in Clojure by""" start="00:05:53.120" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Rich Hickey, and this is a quote from him. He thinks""" start="00:05:57.440" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""transducers are a fundamental primitive that decouple""" start="00:06:01.040" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -120,9 +110,7 @@ [[!template text="""functions their common modern names. For instance, map""" start="00:07:27.960" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is map and filter is filter and so on.""" start="00:07:32.440" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Using transducers""" start="00:07:35.280" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""What does the usage of transducers look like? Well,""" start="00:07:35.280" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Using transducers""" start="00:07:35.280" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""What does the usage of transducers look like? Well,""" start="00:07:35.280" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""these examples will all be the Emacs Lisp variant, but the""" start="00:07:42.600" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Common Lisp will look basically exactly the same, minus""" start="00:07:48.960" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""this little t- prefix.""" start="00:07:52.360" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -152,9 +140,7 @@ [[!template text="""available and many different forms that we can""" start="00:09:45.000" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""collate the final value into.""" start="00:09:48.240" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""A more involved example with comp""" start="00:09:52.625" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Let's see a more involved example.""" start="00:09:52.625" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""A more involved example with comp""" start="00:09:52.625" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Let's see a more involved example.""" start="00:09:52.625" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Okay, now we've got some more meat here.""" start="00:09:55.087" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Here we can see usage of the comp function""" start="00:09:58.050" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and a custom source, ints.""" start="00:10:01.773" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -184,9 +170,7 @@ [[!template text="""see 2, 4, 6, 8, and so on is the result that we""" start="00:11:42.600" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""expect. So let's play around a little bit.""" start="00:11:45.240" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""In Emacs""" start="00:11:49.333" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Let's jump into Emacs and see what we can do.""" start="00:11:49.333" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""In Emacs""" start="00:11:49.333" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Let's jump into Emacs and see what we can do.""" start="00:11:49.333" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Alright, you should see my Emacs screen here.""" start="00:11:53.337" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""These are the actual notes for the actual""" start="00:11:58.501" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""presentation done in Org Mode. I'll boost that up in size for""" start="00:12:04.360" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -228,9 +212,7 @@ [[!template text="""string of h and 1 is mapped to e. Now, I really like having""" start="00:14:21.920" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""this reducer in particular.""" start="00:14:27.080" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Hash tables""" start="00:14:29.469" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Know that hash tables are""" start="00:14:29.469" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Hash tables""" start="00:14:29.469" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Know that hash tables are""" start="00:14:29.469" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""also legal sources. I find that both in Emacs Lisp and in""" start="00:14:30.640" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Common Lisp, dealing with hash tables--like creating them""" start="00:14:34.200" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and altering them--can be a bit of a pain. Having them""" start="00:14:37.120" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -240,9 +222,7 @@ [[!template text="""that, and then reduce it down into a hash table, and here you""" start="00:14:53.280" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""go. Very handy.""" start="00:14:56.200" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Clarity""" start="00:14:58.040" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""One last point is that you can see very clearly what""" start="00:14:58.040" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Clarity""" start="00:14:58.040" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""One last point is that you can see very clearly what""" start="00:14:58.040" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""this is attempting to do, as opposed to, say, a for loop. It's""" start="00:15:06.400" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""very clear what that step is doing, and then you can see what""" start="00:15:10.480" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that is doing, and you know that the result is going to be two.""" start="00:15:12.720" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -257,9 +237,7 @@ [[!template text="""transducers, it is. You have to be aware of how these things""" start="00:15:48.120" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""are different. I think that that helps clarity.""" start="00:15:53.120" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""How do transducers work?""" start="00:15:55.800" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Moving on. How do transducers work? Well,""" start="00:15:55.800" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""How do transducers work?""" start="00:15:55.800" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Moving on. How do transducers work? Well,""" start="00:15:55.800" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""we want to go see the README.""" start="00:16:02.000" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So, what we're going to do is""" start="00:16:09.858" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""we're going to go to here.""" start="00:16:11.400" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -320,9 +298,7 @@ [[!template text="""Once again, if you are more curious, please take a look at""" start="00:19:54.000" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the README.""" start="00:19:56.800" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Transducers in the wild - CSV""" start="00:20:00.520" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Okay, transducers in the wild. Well, let's go take a look at""" start="00:20:00.520" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Transducers in the wild - CSV""" start="00:20:00.520" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Okay, transducers in the wild. Well, let's go take a look at""" start="00:20:00.520" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""processing some CSV data.""" start="00:20:06.040" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""We're going to open up a new Emacs Lisp bracket here. So I have""" start="00:20:07.640" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""a file. And in this file, let's just go look at C-x b right""" start="00:20:21.320" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -400,9 +376,7 @@ [[!template text="""you want and process them, potentially both writing them""" start="00:25:57.720" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""back out as CSV or JSON once again.""" start="00:26:00.440" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Issues and next steps""" start="00:26:03.240" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Some issues with transducers that can come up is""" start="00:26:03.240" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Issues and next steps""" start="00:26:03.240" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Some issues with transducers that can come up is""" start="00:26:03.240" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that one, a zip operator is missing, but I'm working on it.""" start="00:26:10.720" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Two is that performance, particularly in Emacs Lisp, isn't""" start="00:26:14.920" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that great. It could be due to the sort of nested lambda calls""" start="00:26:19.400" video="mainVideo-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -418,9 +392,7 @@ Captioner: sachac -<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="transducers-qanda-transcript"></a> - -# Q&A transcript (unedited) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="transducers-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> [[!template text="""Hopefully the internet goes well. It's a nice Monday""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""morning here in Tokyo.""" start="00:00:07.560" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -433,9 +405,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""little bit. I think I did. However, find the 1st question.""" start="00:00:58.080" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I got pretty distracted by conversation backstage. Yeah,""" start="00:01:04.920" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: When I tried comparing transducers.el to cl-lib and dash (benchmark-compiled), I got the following results""" start="00:01:09.920" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""no problem. So the first question here, someone's asking,""" start="00:01:09.920" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: When I tried comparing transducers.el to cl-lib and dash (benchmark-compiled), I got the following results""" start="00:01:09.920" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""no problem. So the first question here, someone's asking,""" start="00:01:09.920" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""when they first tried comparing transducers.el, the cl-lib""" start="00:01:15.880" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and Dash bookmark compiled, and they give some detailed""" start="00:01:22.280" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""results we're sharing on the stream. Um, they expected""" start="00:01:27.960" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -491,9 +461,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""into the schedule so much. But anyway, interesting, I mean,""" start="00:05:31.520" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to say.""" start="00:05:38.520" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Do you know of any theoretical texts on transducers?""" start="00:05:40.840" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Did we already speak to theoretical texts? No, right? No,""" start="00:05:40.840" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Do you know of any theoretical texts on transducers?""" start="00:05:40.840" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Did we already speak to theoretical texts? No, right? No,""" start="00:05:40.840" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""let's continue. Okay, so another question from the group.""" start="00:05:47.800" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Do you know of any theoretical texts on transducers? My""" start="00:05:53.400" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""readme, particularly of the Common Lisp implementation,""" start="00:05:58.880" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -512,9 +480,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""thank you. Hope I got the spelling right, and maybe somebody""" start="00:06:55.440" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""can catch that and fix it. If not, I'll reach on. Thank you.""" start="00:07:00.400" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Did you think about [compiler features, macros] viz your cl, fennel, elisp, porting of your transducers?""" start="00:07:04.720" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Reach on to the next question. Waters (Lazy Series in""" start="00:07:04.720" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Did you think about [compiler features, macros] viz your cl, fennel, elisp, porting of your transducers?""" start="00:07:04.720" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Reach on to the next question. Waters (Lazy Series in""" start="00:07:04.720" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Lisp, late 70s) said this should have been done as an""" start="00:07:08.240" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""additional compiler feature in compilers, but if not, must""" start="00:07:12.800" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""be a macro package. Do you think about that vis your CL,""" start="00:07:16.800" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -530,9 +496,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""I love it. What a nice succinct answer. Even I can manage to""" start="00:08:05.760" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""type that out as I scroll us to the next question.""" start="00:08:13.560" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Does t-buffer-read provide a lazy stream that\'s linewise, or charwise, or do something else entirely?""" start="00:08:16.579" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""So, does t-buffer-read provide a lazy stream""" start="00:08:16.579" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Does t-buffer-read provide a lazy stream that\'s linewise, or charwise, or do something else entirely?""" start="00:08:16.579" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""So, does t-buffer-read provide a lazy stream""" start="00:08:16.579" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that's line-wise or character-wise or do something else""" start="00:08:24.080" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""entirely?""" start="00:08:28.360" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Okay, there are two functions. I showed""" start="00:08:29.019" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -546,9 +510,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""line ends. I believe I'm just grabbing the next line and then""" start="00:08:59.480" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""processing that line-wise. Very good.""" start="00:09:04.000" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Can the Elisp library be combined with the stream.el API or seq in general?""" start="00:09:09.424" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Can the Elisp library be combined with the stream.el API""" start="00:09:09.424" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Can the Elisp library be combined with the stream.el API or seq in general?""" start="00:09:09.424" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Can the Elisp library be combined with the stream.el API""" start="00:09:09.424" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or seq in general? I would say that these libraries""" start="00:09:17.304" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""are completely orthogonal. You saw that everything""" start="00:09:22.831" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""was prefixed by t-.""" start="00:09:27.597" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -583,9 +545,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""it? I think we're a lot of us running into generics and how""" start="00:11:39.280" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that solves problems in Emacs.""" start="00:11:44.280" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: How does one debug a t-comp expression? Can you single step and see intermediate results of the different statements you declare?""" start="00:11:47.543" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""How does one debug a t-comp""" start="00:11:47.543" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: How does one debug a t-comp expression? Can you single step and see intermediate results of the different statements you declare?""" start="00:11:47.543" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""How does one debug a t-comp""" start="00:11:47.543" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""expression? Can you talk in terms of single step,""" start="00:11:50.280" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""step-by-step, intermediate results of the different""" start="00:11:55.120" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""statements you declare? Yes. So in Common Lisp, this is""" start="00:11:58.480" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -630,9 +590,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""across everything. Every Emacs user has a story that""" start="00:14:36.040" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""harmonizes with that, I think.""" start="00:14:39.880" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is there a path for transducers to enable elisp processing of otherwise overly large datasets as if just normal Emacs \"buffers\" (i.e. just pulling one thing at a time so essentially stream-like under the hood but buffer-like in interface), with none of the usual perf issues with a traditional buffer structure?""" start="00:14:42.495" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""So our next question, is""" start="00:14:42.495" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is there a path for transducers to enable elisp processing of otherwise overly large datasets as if just normal Emacs \"buffers\" (i.e. just pulling one thing at a time so essentially stream-like under the hood but buffer-like in interface), with none of the usual perf issues with a traditional buffer structure?""" start="00:14:42.495" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""So our next question, is""" start="00:14:42.495" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""there a path for transducers to enable Elisp processing or""" start="00:14:44.520" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""otherwise overly large data sets as if just normal Emacs""" start="00:14:48.600" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""buffers, i.e. just pulling one thing at a time. So""" start="00:14:54.000" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -667,9 +625,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""some, um, um, yeah, some, like some fusion that I can do to""" start="00:16:38.520" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""speed it up. Yeah, that just sounds fascinating endlessly.""" start="00:16:45.200" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is there an option to read a csv/json and produce an alist or plist instead of a hash table for an entry?""" start="00:16:51.200" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Are there options to like read from a CSV, JSON, produce an""" start="00:16:51.200" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is there an option to read a csv/json and produce an alist or plist instead of a hash table for an entry?""" start="00:16:51.200" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Are there options to like read from a CSV, JSON, produce an""" start="00:16:51.200" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""alist or plist instead of hash table? Absolutely.""" start="00:16:55.560" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Yes, I need to double check that, but we can read both CSV and""" start="00:17:01.680" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""JSON, and you should be able to just turn on the plist option.""" start="00:17:06.240" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -685,9 +641,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""together the way that we might group files by the first four""" start="00:17:42.040" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""characters in the file name once we've got a million files.""" start="00:17:46.440" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is the common lisp version ready for 'production' use? Is it complete enough and the API stable enough?""" start="00:17:50.520" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Anyway, is the Common Lisp version ready for production""" start="00:17:50.520" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is the common lisp version ready for 'production' use? Is it complete enough and the API stable enough?""" start="00:17:50.520" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Anyway, is the Common Lisp version ready for production""" start="00:17:50.520" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""use? Do you want to comment on API stability? I use it all the""" start="00:17:54.480" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""time. I'm writing a game in Common Lisp right now, and I'm""" start="00:17:59.960" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""using transducers everywhere in there, and it doesn't even""" start="00:18:04.160" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -695,9 +649,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""extensively. Okay, well, I'll just read from chat. Thanks""" start="00:18:11.120" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""so much for the answers.""" start="00:18:15.360" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Do we need a pre-written \"t-\" version for every already existing reducing function like + or is there a function to construct them from already defined reducer 2-arg functions?""" start="00:18:17.477" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""Do we need a pre-written or t-minus""" start="00:18:17.477" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Do we need a pre-written \"t-\" version for every already existing reducing function like + or is there a function to construct them from already defined reducer 2-arg functions?""" start="00:18:17.477" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Do we need a pre-written or t-minus""" start="00:18:17.477" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""version for every already existing reducing function,""" start="00:18:20.440" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""plus, as an example? Or is there a function that constructs,""" start="00:18:24.960" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""in my, I'm going to add the word, auto-visualifies them""" start="00:18:30.240" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] @@ -726,9 +678,7 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""fold is sort of the ultimate reducer function. Great. So is""" start="00:20:08.400" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""there, where was I? Here we go. We're way past this, right? So""" start="00:20:16.880" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is the compelling argument for transducers is that it's a better abstraction?""" start="00:20:26.320" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] - -[[!template text="""is the compiling argument for transducers that it's a""" start="00:20:26.320" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is the compelling argument for transducers is that it's a better abstraction?""" start="00:20:26.320" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""is the compiling argument for transducers that it's a""" start="00:20:26.320" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""better abstraction? It seems like there are concerns,""" start="00:20:34.280" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""objections, while problematically valid focused on""" start="00:20:38.880" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""implementation. Can this abstraction allow for advances""" start="00:20:42.400" video="qanda-transducers" id="subtitle"]] |