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diff --git a/2024/info/learning-after.md b/2024/info/learning-after.md index 8d20694a..a2517064 100644 --- a/2024/info/learning-after.md +++ b/2024/info/learning-after.md @@ -463,7 +463,318 @@ Captioner: rodrigo -Questions or comments? Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20learning%3A%20Survival%20of%20the%20skillest%3A%20Thriving%20in%20the%20learning%20jungle) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="learning-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""I'm doing well. Thank you so much. I was supposed to chat and""" start="00:00:00.029" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""write down stuff in the etherpad, but you guys accommodated""" start="00:00:02.593" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""me very nicely, swiftly, efficiently, in spite of my quirky""" start="00:00:02.593" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""last minute requests. Yeah, but that's okay because, well,""" start="00:00:02.593" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's funny that you talk about accommodating you and doing""" start="00:00:14.827" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all the things we need to do because, frankly, your talk is""" start="00:00:14.827" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about getting things done and you've mentioned the book,""" start="00:00:14.827" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""obviously, but the philosophy of getting things done is""" start="00:00:14.827" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""ultimately what we've been applying with Emacs Conf so that""" start="00:00:14.827" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when we have curveballs thrown at us, like you've done right""" start="00:00:14.827" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""now, we can accommodate them because we made sure that""" start="00:00:14.827" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""everything else was done. So we'll move to questions and I""" start="00:00:14.827" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""invite viewers to go to the pad, to the etherpad that is on IRC""" start="00:00:37.925" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and also on the talk page and put your questions over there.""" start="00:00:37.925" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But first I wanted to make sure, Bala, that if you had""" start="00:00:48.213" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""anything that you could not include in your presentation,""" start="00:00:48.213" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just to give you some time to mention them now if you want. I""" start="00:00:48.213" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""think I mentioned most of what I wanted to convey. I wanted to""" start="00:00:59.743" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""keep it general with whichever format people are""" start="00:01:05.625" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""comfortable with, whether it's Org Mode, whether it's""" start="00:01:05.625" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""plain text, whether it is Docx. In fact, I was speaking to one""" start="00:01:05.625" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of my friends and he said, Hey, I use Google Sheets to note""" start="00:01:20.668" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""down everything, all the tasks that are coming. I said, suit""" start="00:01:23.789" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""yourself, whatever it is. So, in that way, this methodology""" start="00:01:27.990" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or whatever, the way which we follow is quite flexible. The""" start="00:01:29.971" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""system is quite flexible in whichever way you want to use it.""" start="00:01:37.273" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""go ahead and use it. But start emptying your teacup. That""" start="00:01:41.624" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""will be my first and foremost. I have nothing else to add per""" start="00:01:46.886" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""se. Okay, cool. So we'll start with the first question and""" start="00:01:49.127" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll be reading the questions to you. And just so we know, we""" start="00:01:53.569" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""have about eight minutes of Q&A until we need to move to the""" start="00:01:57.251" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""next talk. All right, so first question. What is Twiz? Okay,""" start="00:01:57.251" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this is a Russian methodology. It's pardon my, I mean poor""" start="00:02:06.014" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Russian, but it translates to theory of inventive problem""" start="00:02:09.678" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""solving. So, that's what it translates to. What it is, is it""" start="00:02:09.678" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is said that all the inventions problem solved so far in""" start="00:02:19.087" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""humanity. If you can categorize them, they fall into""" start="00:02:19.087" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""exactly 40 principles. That's one of the core tenets in""" start="00:02:27.394" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""theory of inventive problem solving. Also, that creative""" start="00:02:33.641" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""people have a process they follow. and in defining a problem""" start="00:02:38.687" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and solving a problem. So, this is what I was trained in a""" start="00:02:44.508" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""company that I work for and I started using it and started""" start="00:02:47.509" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""applying it. So, creative process starts with defining a""" start="00:02:47.509" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""problem and solving a problem in a very systematic manner""" start="00:02:56.031" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you can be as creative as the creatives that we know about""" start="00:02:56.031" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as the methodology talks about. So, that is what TRIZ is,""" start="00:02:56.031" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Theory of Inventive Problem Solving. There is lot of open""" start="00:03:10.314" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""source literature like we have in Emacs. It is the same way""" start="00:03:14.358" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with TRIZ, people share very generous and you can learn""" start="00:03:18.982" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about it. what it can be useful for what in the core of our talk""" start="00:03:18.982" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""also is that many a times we face conflicts, that is, I don't""" start="00:03:25.089" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""want to spend a lot of time, you know, figuring out a system""" start="00:03:25.089" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like this. However, I want everything in one place, you""" start="00:03:25.089" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""know, how can that happen? So start little by little is one""" start="00:03:39.741" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""suggestion I have. Don't And this is also a contradiction we""" start="00:03:44.626" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""have, right? So, we need to spend a lot of time to set up things""" start="00:03:49.109" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""before we can start organizing our life. But there's not a""" start="00:03:52.011" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""lot of time because we haven't organized our life. So, we""" start="00:03:57.556" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""don't have that's a conundrum or a contradiction. That's""" start="00:04:01.318" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what TRIZ methodology is about to identify that this is a""" start="00:04:04.361" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""contradiction and we have to resolve it not compromise. So,""" start="00:04:04.361" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""resolve it in a manner that gives you enough time to set up a""" start="00:04:13.468" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""system and enough time, free time to enjoy your life or focus""" start="00:04:13.468" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on a project and be present when you're working with""" start="00:04:13.468" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""something. So, that's what the crux of the methodology is.""" start="00:04:13.468" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, splendid answer. Thank you. Moving on to the next one.""" start="00:04:31.448" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for this talk. Very interesting. One of the things""" start="00:04:34.910" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that frustrates me about modern web development is the rate""" start="00:04:36.751" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of churn when it comes to useful knowledge. I think Emacs can""" start="00:04:36.751" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""help to counteract against this by building lasting tools""" start="00:04:42.335" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where mastery can be built. Do you agree that learning""" start="00:04:42.335" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""similar but different things again and again is ultimately""" start="00:04:47.278" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""wasted bandwidth? What can we do as technologists to push""" start="00:04:47.278" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""back against this? Yeah, this is an interesting one""" start="00:04:51.961" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because, I mean, I'm like everyone else where a new package""" start="00:04:57.419" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""shows up. I mentioned that in my talk also, the first""" start="00:04:57.419" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""introduction. Sajajo's newsletter is amazing. It has all""" start="00:05:06.187" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""these new things coming up and new developments coming up.""" start="00:05:12.312" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Same thing with web dev, I guess, you have new things coming""" start="00:05:15.895" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""up. So you want to learn that new thing. However, you need to""" start="00:05:15.895" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""also be aware that there are so many other projects and""" start="00:05:22.720" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hobbies or life that's also waiting for you. And it's not a""" start="00:05:22.720" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""balancing act, but if you if you pay attention and be present""" start="00:05:36.288" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and give whatever is in front of you, it's full attention.""" start="00:05:36.288" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Then look back and connect. That's an interesting way,""" start="00:05:47.236" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because hindsight is 20 20. Use it to your advantage. So my I""" start="00:05:49.897" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""don't know, I don't want to push back against this because""" start="00:05:54.460" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""some of it is just amazing because it thinks that you think is""" start="00:05:54.460" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a waste of time and it's a distraction right now. could""" start="00:05:54.460" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""potentially be. I'm not saying it will be because there are""" start="00:06:06.308" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""things that are truly a waste of time that could truly""" start="00:06:07.450" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""potentially tie back to something and be really helpful. I""" start="00:06:07.450" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""can give you an example from our Emacs part of my life. I was""" start="00:06:17.800" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""experimenting with CSS and Cascade style sheets and how I""" start="00:06:21.563" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""can customize it to use it in org mode export. For me at the""" start="00:06:21.563" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""time, it seemed like a waste of time. I was spending so much""" start="00:06:35.652" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""time. Then I parked it. I didn't do much about it later. But""" start="00:06:37.733" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then one of my students said, Your slides are too bulky for me""" start="00:06:42.076" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to scroll through to get to exactly what I am looking for. I""" start="00:06:45.066" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was using the reveal HTML and I used to pass on the link""" start="00:06:51.150" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""before. And the student sort of hinted at a handout. And now""" start="00:06:51.150" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's not easy with the reveal JS framework. It's rather""" start="00:07:00.696" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""tricky. At least I couldn't figure it out. but then it""" start="00:07:04.698" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""occurred to me that hey wait a second i've already looked at""" start="00:07:07.893" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this css thing and maybe that'll help and it did help the i can""" start="00:07:07.893" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""drop in the name of the tool that i use now it's called vz print""" start="00:07:07.893" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""uh let me use the uh i don't know if some um If you can look it up,""" start="00:07:07.893" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""W-E-A-S-Y print. That's what it's called. And that's""" start="00:07:24.878" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""mighty useful. That's really, really useful. You can""" start="00:07:31.941" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""customize it. You can change everything. I think I can even,""" start="00:07:35.863" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll probably even share the code later on. It's really""" start="00:07:40.225" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""useful and I've been able to, so what seemed like a waste of""" start="00:07:43.646" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""time is actually something that became useful later on. But""" start="00:07:43.646" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there are several other things I have truly wasted and it's""" start="00:07:52.193" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not been useful because I couldn't connect the dots. 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I see three""" start="00:08:22.583" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""questions currently that can still be answered, and I don't""" start="00:08:26.488" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""think any of them would be answerable within just one""" start="00:08:26.488" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""minute. So what I suggest we do, Bala, feel free. Do you have""" start="00:08:26.488" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""access to the pad on your end? Yes, I do. I do. I have it here.""" start="00:08:37.383" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, cool. I'm putting the link on BBB just in case you need""" start="00:08:40.926" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to review it. We're going to leave the room open. By the way,""" start="00:08:41.487" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if anyone in the crowd wants to join so that they can ask the""" start="00:08:46.631" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""question directly with their voice to Bala, feel free to do""" start="00:08:46.631" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so. The links are on the website. But Bala, if no one shows up,""" start="00:08:46.631" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you could just answer the three questions that we haven't""" start="00:08:54.157" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""covered yet, actually. Well, three questions because""" start="00:08:54.157" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sasha just put the link right there. That'd be lovely. And""" start="00:08:59.821" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we'll make sure that the entire Q&A finds its place into the""" start="00:09:04.122" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""website afterwards. How does that sound for you? Yeah,""" start="00:09:04.122" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""sounds great. Thank you so much. I'll do make sure that I will""" start="00:09:10.485" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""have the answers there, but I'm going to wait here for some""" start="00:09:12.625" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""time so that somebody can join. Okay, sure. Any last word in""" start="00:09:12.625" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""10 seconds for the public? Well, empty your teacup and enjoy""" start="00:09:19.588" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""your life. Splendid. Thank you so much, Bala, for coming""" start="00:09:23.029" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""again to Emaxxon this year, and hopefully we'll be seeing""" start="00:09:28.018" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you next year with further talks to discuss. Yeah, thank you""" start="00:09:28.018" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so much. All right, and right now we'll be moving to the next""" start="00:09:35.903" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""talk of the day in about five seconds. Thank you again, Bala,""" start="00:09:37.684" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and see you later. Bye.""" start="00:09:41.347" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, we are a fair. So, Bala, I'll need to move to make""" start="00:09:46.810" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""sure that everything is working for the next talk. So, do as""" start="00:09:47.870" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we said, and everything will be fine. Okay. Okay, bye-bye,""" start="00:09:51.212" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Bala. Bye. Bye, Leo.""" start="00:09:56.276" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay.""" start="00:10:02.630" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hello everyone, do you want me to answer a question? I'll be""" start="00:10:15.421" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""happy to answer that. You want to discuss something? You""" start="00:10:21.383" video="qanda-learning" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""want to share something? I'm here for that. 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