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diff --git a/2024/info/julia-after.md b/2024/info/julia-after.md index c7945b26..9a2d879c 100644 --- a/2024/info/julia-after.md +++ b/2024/info/julia-after.md @@ -211,7 +211,8 @@ </div><div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="julia-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> -[[!template text="""... answer to that. I, I think the infrastructure for an""" start="00:00:00.089" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Do you have any suggestions for interactive debugging of Julia code in Emacs?""" start="00:00:00.089" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""... answer to that. I, I think the infrastructure for an""" start="00:00:00.089" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""ecosystem in Julia in general is as mature as other""" start="00:00:01.509" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""languages, and even debugger infiltrator themselves are""" start="00:00:01.509" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""not particularly well developed. And so I don't think""" start="00:00:01.509" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] @@ -227,7 +228,8 @@ [[!template text="""Julia community itself. So let alone Emacs, integration""" start="00:00:58.809" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""with Emacs. The way I personally debug is mostly using,""" start="00:01:04.192" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""well, debugger and infiltrator with Julia REPL mode in""" start="00:01:08.286" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Emacs. The second question, can you call out something that""" start="00:01:08.286" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Can you call out something that Julia has that Emacs does not, and which could benefit Emacs?""" start="00:01:08.286" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Emacs. The second question, can you call out something that""" start="00:01:08.286" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Julia has that Emacs does not and which could benefit Emacs?""" start="00:01:18.009" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Nothing stands out to me except the usual multi-threading""" start="00:01:26.852" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and things like this. I don't necessarily see something""" start="00:01:28.848" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] @@ -246,7 +248,8 @@ [[!template text="""proves that we are doing this. But I'd like to emphasize that""" start="00:02:21.228" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the community is a really important aspect in Julia that I""" start="00:02:27.192" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""think we should double down on our side. The next question is""" start="00:02:27.192" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""about Lisp syntax with Julia, like what we can do in Python.""" start="00:02:36.797" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is there a way to use lisp syntax with Julia, like hy for python or lisp flavoured erlang?""" start="00:02:36.797" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""about Lisp syntax with Julia, like what we can do in Python.""" start="00:02:36.797" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I don't think that's, I don't, I am not aware of any package""" start="00:02:48.038" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that does that. I would bet that there's something there. I""" start="00:02:48.038" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""think that that's possible. Indeed, there used to be a Lisp""" start="00:02:56.722" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] @@ -257,10 +260,11 @@ [[!template text="""provenance. I think that it should be possible to use the""" start="00:03:16.124" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""metaprogramming features in Julia to change the structure""" start="00:03:25.430" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""of your syntax to be a Lispy syntax. I do want to emphasize""" start="00:03:25.430" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""that""" start="00:03:36.238" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Julia is heavily inspired by Lisp, so I wouldn't be""" start="00:03:36.238" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""surprised if if something like this were possible. I have""" start="00:03:36.238" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""tried Julia Snail. So the next question is about Julia""" start="00:03:49.309" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that Julia is heavily inspired by Lisp, so I wouldn't be""" start="00:03:36.238" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""surprised if if something like this were possible.""" start="00:03:36.238" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have tried Julia Snail.""" start="00:03:49.309" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Have you tried the Julia Snail package for Emacs? It tries to be like SLY/SLIME for Common Lisp.""" start="00:03:51.168" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""So the next question is about Julia""" start="00:03:51.168" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Snail. I found Julia REPL to be a little bit easier to set up""" start="00:03:51.270" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and use. So I just settled on that. I should maybe revisit""" start="00:03:53.312" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that. In particular, I use the Julia REPL with the vterm""" start="00:04:00.918" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] @@ -268,21 +272,24 @@ [[!template text="""scripts. And that works for me. I do think that the tooling""" start="00:04:03.720" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""uh, could be improved. I think there is definitely much room""" start="00:04:15.638" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I would like to see improvement in that area. Um, and, uh,""" start="00:04:17.399" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""so we have, uh, okay. Data inspector for, for Julia Red Bull.""" start="00:04:22.940" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Uh, I, I don't think so. I don't, is there any data inspector""" start="00:04:32.043" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""in for, for the Julia Red Bull that we can use in Emacs? I, I,""" start="00:04:34.804" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""I'm not sure. I don't think so. I think the way I look at data is""" start="00:04:43.223" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""essentially ignoring AMX when encoded. It's just using the""" start="00:04:44.845" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""REPL. And again, with Julia REPL. So I'm not aware of any""" start="00:04:49.632" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""specialized tool And again, maybe this is, again, a good""" start="00:04:53.899" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is there a data inspector for a Julia REPL available that you can use in Emacs?""" start="00:04:22.940" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""so we have data inspector for Julia REPL.""" start="00:04:22.940" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't think so. I don't, is there any data inspector""" start="00:04:32.043" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in for, for the Julia REPL that we can use in Emacs?""" start="00:04:34.804" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not sure. I don't think so.""" start="00:04:43.223" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think the way I look at data is""" start="00:04:44.840" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""essentially ignoring Emacs when encoded. It's just using the""" start="00:04:47.840" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""REPL. And again, with Julia REPL. So I'm not aware of any""" start="00:04:50.520" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""specialized tool And again, maybe this is, again, a good""" start="00:04:54.760" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""moment to emphasize that tooling, the Julia community""" start="00:04:58.652" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""clusters around VS Code. And there is tools like the, pretty""" start="00:04:58.652" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""much all the work with VS Code, unfortunately. And while""" start="00:05:06.315" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""there's a very, very decent Julia mode and Julia repo mode""" start="00:05:12.578" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and Julia snail, there's definitely, definitely room for""" start="00:05:12.578" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""improvement.""" start="00:05:12.578" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Next, we have a question about literate programming in""" start="00:05:24.443" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Julia. I haven't done much of it with Oracle Babel or""" start="00:05:24.443" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Have you tried literate programming Julia (using Org babel or some other means) in Emacs?""" start="00:05:24.443" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Next, we have a question about literate programming in""" start="00:05:24.443" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Julia. I haven't done much of it with Org Babel or""" start="00:05:24.443" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""anything else. I haven't done much of it. I can say that Julia""" start="00:05:29.505" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""has developed a new iteration of notebooks called Pluto.""" start="00:05:35.827" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Here I'm thinking about Jupyter notebooks. The Pluto""" start="00:05:46.090" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] @@ -311,13 +318,14 @@ [[!template text="""features will find a little bit of joy in working with Julia.""" start="00:07:27.367" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I think I addressed what I have here. I don't know if there's""" start="00:07:38.214" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""anything else that I should add.""" start="00:07:40.189" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""It took me a minute to unmute there. No, I think that was""" start="00:07:51.718" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""awesome. And thank you so much. I guess I thought it would""" start="00:07:54.060" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""collapse that shared area on BBB, my mistake, on the stream,""" start="00:07:56.822" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""or I would have left it open. But in any case, no, I thought""" start="00:07:56.822" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""that was great. You did a great job of responding to all the""" start="00:08:10.220" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""questions and comments. And thank you again so much for your""" start="00:08:13.083" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""talk and getting us all excited to learn Julia. Thank you.""" start="00:08:16.306" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It took me a minute to unmute there.""" start="00:07:51.718" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No, I think that was awesome. And thank you so much.""" start="00:07:54.040" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I guess I thought it would""" start="00:07:58.400" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""collapse that shared area on BBB, my mistake, on the stream,""" start="00:08:00.400" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or I would have left it open. But in any case, no, I thought""" start="00:08:06.560" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that was great. You did a great job of responding to all the""" start="00:08:12.400" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""questions and comments. And thank you again so much for your""" start="00:08:15.080" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""talk and getting us all excited to learn Julia. Thank you.""" start="00:08:17.880" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Enjoy EmacsConf. And again, thanks so much for attending,""" start="00:08:24.094" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for being EmacsConf. Thank you.""" start="00:08:25.335" video="qanda-julia" id="subtitle"]] |