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diff --git a/2024/info/hyperbole-after.md b/2024/info/hyperbole-after.md index 68a9d1ba..db5e715e 100644 --- a/2024/info/hyperbole-after.md +++ b/2024/info/hyperbole-after.md @@ -163,7 +163,233 @@ Captioner: sachac -Questions or comments? Please e-mail [matsl@gnu.org](mailto:matsl@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20hyperbole%3A%20Fun%20things%20with%20GNU%20Hyperbole) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="hyperbole-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""And I believe we are live. Hi, Mats, how are you doing? Oh, I'm""" start="00:00:08.986" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""fine. It's a pleasure to see you again after last year. And I""" start="00:00:12.308" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was trying to think about it. We saw you last year, but didn't""" start="00:00:16.590" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we see you as well in 2022? Yes. This is my third year. Yeah,""" start="00:00:19.131" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""well, thank you for being a regular at EmacsConf. It's""" start="00:00:26.915" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""always a pleasure to have you chat about hyperbole.""" start="00:00:29.136" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Although I think you're the only one chatting about""" start="00:00:31.937" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hyperbole this year compared to last year. Yes,""" start="00:00:31.937" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""unfortunately, that's, yeah, Bob has some family issues.""" start="00:00:36.744" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, I'm here, but I'm here. Yeah, but we are happy to have""" start="00:00:41.187" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you here. And as I was saying before, I'm not sure if you were,""" start="00:00:44.269" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you had the time to watch the previous talk by Mohsen, you""" start="00:00:46.791" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""know, you had, there were plenty of ideas, I think that were""" start="00:00:46.791" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""very similar to what Hyperbole is trying to do by having""" start="00:00:46.791" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""buttons and having stuff that can be in any other mode that""" start="00:00:46.791" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""would allow you to supplement a coding file with extra""" start="00:00:46.791" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""information. So the ideas are living on. And even though""" start="00:01:06.745" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hyperbole is one thing, I feel like other packages are also""" start="00:01:11.448" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""taking a lot of inspiration for it. So congratulations on""" start="00:01:11.448" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""being an inspiration, I suppose. Oh, thanks.""" start="00:01:16.530" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Unfortunately, I have not had any time to watch anything of""" start="00:01:21.493" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the AMS conference since apparently my life is like every""" start="00:01:21.493" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""time it's AMS conference, I do something else. So I've been""" start="00:01:21.493" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just moving this weekend. So, I'm in a new apartment, but I'm""" start="00:01:32.819" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""connected and everything seems to work okay. So, I can't""" start="00:01:35.800" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""relate to what we said in any of the other talks, I'm afraid.""" start="00:01:41.225" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, sorry about that. No, that's okay. No, but that's""" start="00:01:45.348" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""completely fine, because you may be able to watch the talks""" start="00:01:47.310" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""at any point later on, because I'll remind the viewers that""" start="00:01:47.310" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the talks are currently available on EmacsConf or the""" start="00:01:47.310" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""pre-recorded one. And I think we only had one live talk""" start="00:01:47.310" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""yesterday. All of them are already available with""" start="00:01:58.199" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""subtitles and all the funny stuff that we usually put. So""" start="00:02:02.422" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's an invitation for people to watch it. All right. So,""" start="00:02:06.844" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Mats, before we start with the questions, I see people in the""" start="00:02:10.985" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""process of writing them. Was there anything else you wanted""" start="00:02:10.985" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to add on top of your presentation? Maybe some supplements""" start="00:02:16.887" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or whatnot? No, no. Nothing to add. Right. I mean, this year""" start="00:02:19.368" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was more a bag of tricks, some new stuff that you've""" start="00:02:28.493" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""implemented in Hyperbole. And it's fun because I see the UI""" start="00:02:28.493" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you have for some of those modes. And earlier, you""" start="00:02:33.115" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""weren't able to watch those talks, but we were talking a lot""" start="00:02:37.836" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about Transient and about what it allows you to do in terms of""" start="00:02:37.836" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""interactivity. I'm actually familiar with Transient. No,""" start="00:02:37.836" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""no, no. It's a mode written by Tarsier, so Jonas Bernoulli,""" start="00:02:50.500" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the person behind Magits, and it's a very nice way to create""" start="00:02:52.765" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""menus for interactive setups. So, if you are interested in""" start="00:02:52.765" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""perhaps augmenting what you currently have with""" start="00:03:04.387" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hyperbole, it might be nice to look into Transient because I""" start="00:03:04.387" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""think this is heading towards eventually being merged into""" start="00:03:04.387" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the core of Emacs. I mean, don't quote me on this. and I'm not""" start="00:03:04.387" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""sure how Tarsius feels about it, but because of the""" start="00:03:18.570" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""adoption, because Magit obviously uses transient, Org is""" start="00:03:18.570" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""trying to make a move towards adopting transient, it feels""" start="00:03:18.570" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like Hyperbole would do well as well to adopt it because it's""" start="00:03:18.570" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""starting to become a grammar of general UI at this point.""" start="00:03:18.570" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, now when you mention it, I remember because I'm a heavy""" start="00:03:37.338" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""user of Magic, of course. So I know Transient that way. I know""" start="00:03:37.338" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""also that people have been complaining about Hyperbole's""" start="00:03:47.364" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""menu system. You know that Hyperbole reach back to""" start="00:03:47.364" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""something like 1993, so it has some maybe things that are not""" start="00:03:54.989" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""modern in that sense. So we have it on the plate to maybe look""" start="00:03:54.989" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into these things and how we can sort of make things modern,""" start="00:04:04.660" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""etc. Sure, but it's completely fine to take your time. You""" start="00:04:04.660" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""don't necessarily have to follow the latest fads when it""" start="00:04:16.158" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""comes to completion engines or interactive engines like""" start="00:04:16.158" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Transient is. I'm not actually sure how you would call""" start="00:04:16.158" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Transient. Is this a UI maker, an interaction engine? I""" start="00:04:25.085" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""don't know. I'll need to ask Tarsius at some point. All""" start="00:04:31.450" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""right. Okay. Okay so let's move on to the questions. We've""" start="00:04:35.854" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""got a couple of them and for the Q&A we'll have about five""" start="00:04:41.108" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""minutes and 30 seconds until we got to lunch. So starting""" start="00:04:41.108" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with the first question. How is the log buffer generated in""" start="00:04:48.692" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""your presentation? But it's a very quick answer to this. We""" start="00:04:51.194" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""use We recommend at EmacsConf that speakers use the""" start="00:04:56.696" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""interaction log package, which allows you to have a""" start="00:04:57.737" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""slightly prettier lossage. Lossage being in Emacs how you""" start="00:04:57.737" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""call the comments that you've used. And so if you're""" start="00:05:06.622" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""interested in using this for your own presentation,""" start="00:05:09.564" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""interaction log, and you'll be able to find it fairly""" start="00:05:09.564" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""easily.""" start="00:05:09.564" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Moving to the next question. So the selector thing control c""" start="00:05:19.249" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""return is similar to expand region. How does it behave in""" start="00:05:21.051" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""codes i.e functions or class?""" start="00:05:25.454" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well I think it behaves exactly the same. I mean in the""" start="00:05:31.978" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In any sort of buffer, it might depend on what""" start="00:05:42.244" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""constitutes a word, et cetera, and a sentence in the mood.""" start="00:05:42.244" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's how I would say it. Right.""" start="00:05:56.831" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm just, in that sense, I'm just a user of the function. I""" start="00:06:05.261" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""haven't implemented it. I haven't tested it more than that.""" start="00:06:07.923" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We can do this as a demo that you start with maybe select a""" start="00:06:12.846" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""small thing and by hitting it over and over again, you select""" start="00:06:12.846" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""more and more. Yeah, but it's completely fine sometimes to""" start="00:06:12.846" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""merely be a user of something, you know. It's easy. It's a""" start="00:06:24.574" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""testament to how amazing Emacs is because everything is""" start="00:06:30.177" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""written in Lisp in the background, that as soon as you start""" start="00:06:30.177" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""becoming a maintainer of something, you kind of expect it to""" start="00:06:30.177" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just be able to understand everything else. And whilst it's""" start="00:06:30.177" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""technically true, the limiter here is the amount of time""" start="00:06:40.101" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you can invest looking at the definitions,""" start="00:06:40.101" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""understanding what they do, and sadly we don't have the time""" start="00:06:40.101" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to do all of this. And especially with Hyperbole, which is""" start="00:06:40.101" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""obviously interacting with major modes in something that""" start="00:06:51.727" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is more involved than old mode, for instance. We do have""" start="00:06:51.727" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""another question. 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And org is a very""" start="00:07:32.273" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""popular mode, and there are a lot of sub-modes, or whatever""" start="00:07:49.634" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can call it, with org for information management. And we""" start="00:07:49.634" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""would want Hyperbole to work together with org in a good way,""" start="00:07:59.082" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so org users could benefit from Hyperbole as well. So we put""" start="00:07:59.082" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in some effort in that. 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And we""" start="00:09:33.975" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""won't get into the topic again, because I think you've done a""" start="00:09:41.821" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""wonderful job of explaining the differences in previous""" start="00:09:41.821" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""years. And today, the conference, your talk at the""" start="00:09:41.821" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""conference also made it obvious that it's doing something""" start="00:09:48.006" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that Org Mode is not able to do. But ultimately, being able to""" start="00:09:48.006" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""interface between the two is something great. And I kind of""" start="00:09:56.312" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""wanted to ask you as well the question, because You haven't""" start="00:10:00.255" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""seen the talk, but yesterday we had the announcement that""" start="00:10:03.758" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""E.R. Rodchenko was becoming the new maintainer of Org Mode.""" start="00:10:03.758" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So obviously, a new maintainer introduces idea of changes""" start="00:10:14.022" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of, you know, philosophy and strategy and all this. Is this""" start="00:10:14.022" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""somehow on your end with Hyperbole inspiring you perhaps to""" start="00:10:23.525" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""also innovate in a sense to maybe try to change the way some""" start="00:10:23.525" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""things are done?""" start="00:10:23.525" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hmm, tricky question. I know, right? Yeah, no, well, I don't""" start="00:10:35.706" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""know.""" start="00:10:41.670" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't know if it answers the question, but we have this""" start="00:10:49.147" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""idea that we meet and work from our point of view. And then we""" start="00:10:49.147" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""pick up maybe details from the outside world. So we're not""" start="00:11:02.352" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""heavily looking into what happens in the rest of the world""" start="00:11:06.194" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when it comes to Emacs and personal information""" start="00:11:06.194" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""management, etc. But but we do pick up some ideas.""" start="00:11:14.537" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sometimes. But yeah, we mostly do hacking and then we want to""" start="00:11:22.041" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we meet once a week and work on hyperbole and you know, so""" start="00:11:23.582" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, that's already very cool. 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All right, I don't see any more""" start="00:12:59.612" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""questions, so I think we can move to close. Actually, we're""" start="00:13:14.716" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""actually three minutes over time, so I'm glad we managed to""" start="00:13:19.017" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""discuss a little more, but that's fine. Vance, do you have""" start="00:13:19.017" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""any last words? I'll try it out. Okay, well, then, you heard""" start="00:13:24.218" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it, everyone. Just try it out. Try it out, and if you like it,""" start="00:13:29.979" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can join us on Sundays""" start="00:13:34.200" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right. And every Sunday, well, if you do not know what to do,""" start="00:13:39.537" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, here's an idea for you. All right. Thank you so""" start="00:13:39.757" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""much, Mats, for coming again to Emacs Conf. And we look""" start="00:13:44.579" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""forward, perhaps, to seeing you next year. Yes. I'll be""" start="00:13:46.780" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there. Hopefully, I can see some of the presentations live""" start="00:13:50.962" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then. OK. That's OK. You've got the entire year to catch up on""" start="00:13:52.383" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the ones you haven't seen this year and next year. But you'll""" start="00:13:56.865" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""have the time to catch another one live. All right. Yes.""" start="00:14:00.767" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Great! For the folks watching, we will be taking a break, a""" start="00:14:06.209" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""one hour and one minute break. We'll be back at 1 p.m. EST and I""" start="00:14:07.070" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""think if my UTC conversion is working right, it should be 6""" start="00:14:12.693" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""p.m. UTC, so at least in one hour. All right, see you in a bit""" start="00:14:12.693" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""folks! Oh yes, and sorry, I've got a little health speaking""" start="00:14:23.939" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in my ears. In case you're interested in discussing further""" start="00:14:27.463" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hyperbole with Mats, Mats is in the room right now and I see""" start="00:14:30.944" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""people have joined the BBP chat. So if you want to join and""" start="00:14:30.944" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""chat directly with Mats, I'm sure Mats would be more than""" start="00:14:38.165" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""happy to answer your questions. And obviously everything""" start="00:14:38.165" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""has been recorded and will be published later on. But for me,""" start="00:14:44.326" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will use the break to rest a little bit and I'll be back in the""" start="00:14:47.827" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""afternoon. All right, see you folks. Bye, take a break.""" start="00:14:47.827" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay.""" start="00:17:56.299" video="qanda-hyperbole" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? Please e-mail [matsl@gnu.org](mailto:matsl@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20hyperbole%3A%20Fun%20things%20with%20GNU%20Hyperbole) <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-after-page --> |