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diff --git a/2023/talks/hyperdrive.md b/2023/talks/hyperdrive.md index d84889d5..cc6323c5 100644 --- a/2023/talks/hyperdrive.md +++ b/2023/talks/hyperdrive.md @@ -79,6 +79,113 @@ practically every aspect of my computing. I am the author and maintainer of several packages for Emacs and am enthusiastic about its potential for user freedom. +# Discussion + +## Questions and answers + +- Q: It\'s not clear how hyperdrive (not hyperdrive.el) works. Do I + need to install something on my computer to use it? Can I use it + from my phone? + - A: Like the emacs transmission client connects with the + transmission-daemon, hyperdrive.el connects with the + hyper-gateway daemon. + - Accessing hyperdrives on mobile: + <https://github.com/AgregoreWeb/agregore-mobile> +- Q: What lessons have you learned while developing hyperdrive.el? + - A: Great support and guidance from talented folks like Adam, + Mauve, Jonas, Prot!! +- Q: I use multiple computers and my partner also would like acess to + my notes. so 2 questions. How well would this work with using this + to editing my zettelkasten hyperdrive using multiple computers + - A: Hyperdrives are single-writer, so you\'d be better off + linking between drives. In the future, we plan to add support + for <https://github.com/nobiot/org-transclusion> to + hyperdrive.el. + - Q2: How well would it work if my and my partner worked on the + same hyperdrive zettelkasten + - A: If you linked between drives, it could work quite well! +- Q: What would be a good way of getting Hyperdrives if you don\'t + want to install NPM and hava a binary. Could you compile it with + deno or the \"rust or zig or go?\" cli alternative tool? I would + prefer to download a single binary. + - A: Jonas has been using hyper-gateway installed with a \`guix + shell\` command. Thank you, Jonas!!! + - Quick gist: + <https://gist.github.com/tarsius/509e9c65c9df1bc243d77cd968d60daa> + - Q: <https://github.com/datrs/hypercore> rust hyperdrive? + - A: I\'m not familiar with this rust port yet. +- Q: If you had your druthers, what would make your work on + hyperdrive.el easier? + - A: User feedback!! Please try it out :) +- Q: Have you tried putting a git repo in hyperdrive? Does it work + well? + - A: If you use a bare repository, take care to gc and create pack + files before mirroring to the drive, and only publish periodic + updates, then that might be okay. (And make sure not to repack + old pack files.) +- Q: Is data transferred between nodes in the clear or encrypted? + - A: Encrypted in transit. +- Q: Is there a searchable catalogue of hyperdrives? + - A: Not yet, but we have plans for a distributed \"trust\" + network that could be used with hyperdrive: + <https://git.sr.ht/~ushin/trust.el> +- Q: Any plans for FUSE or posix semantics? + - A: Not yet. There was + <https://github.com/andrewosh/hyperdrive-fuse> , but it\'s not + maintained currently. +- Q: Any plans for a TRAMP interface? + - A: Good idea! A TRAMP interface may make it easier to offer + live hyperdrive filename completions. +- Q: How does this comprare to syncthing? + - A: Syncthing is useful for sharing files among a small group of + trusted peers, like an F2F network + (\<<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend-to-friend>\>). + Hyperdrives are useful for publicly sharing a set of files which + you can updated going forward and which others can link to. +- Q: If you edit a file on the hyperdrive, then edit the same file on + the local mirror. How is the conflict handled when you sync the + mirror again? + - A: If I understand correctly, you\'re asking about what happens + when you write to the same hyperdrive from multiple machines. + The short answer is, \"Please don\'t do that.\" However, it + appears that the Holepunch team is making progress on + <https://docs.holepunch.to/building-blocks/autobase> for + \"autohmatically rebasing\" hyperdrive history, effectively + allowing for multi-writer hyperdrives. +- Q: wouldn't user be able to collaborate asynchronously by viewing diffs on a serially "shared" file, in other words, a user would copy another peer's text file, edit and upload their changes, share the link to their updated file so that then others can see diffs and in that way co-create an evolving file? + - A: You could try this. Another idea that we have in the works is integration with <https://github.com/nobiot/org-transclusion> + +## Notes + +- damn, I never even knew about dired-jump (C-x C-j). Main + differences with (C-x d) from the file are one fewer keystroke and + having the point on the file you came from. +- Btw, hyperdrive looks like another one of those things that would be amazing if I collaborated with anyone using emacs +- Also incidentally hyperdrive is amazing +- I installed hyperdrive.el and tried to run it and immediately got: transient-setup: Symbol’s function definition is void: transient-prefix-object + - Need to upgrade transient.el + - Gah, you are right. I had an obsolete version just hanging out causing pain. + - Okay, I got hyperdrive.el working and it was super easy. hyper://fwsn55wnznts5mpkee16j89ja38nfz6zne4wijzap1z9ka4jsxio/Dird_a333f1_4884540.jpg +- I think hyperdrive is a pretty easy way to share files. Easier than Dropbox. But maybe for delivery? I'm not sure. + - A: What do you mean by "delivery"? + - I was thinking of asset delivery. I write professionally, so I have things like PDFs and other documents to deliver. Sometimes I have big files to deliver to clients. Using something like hyperdrive would be cooler than Dropbox. ... Hmmmm, is there a hyperdrive web gateway? + - A: A good non-Emacs option is <https://github.com/AgregoreWeb/agregore-browser> Agregore is Chromium with built-in support for more protocols besides HTTP, like Hyperdrive, Bittorrent, IPFS, Gemini, and Gun. <https://github.com/RangerMauve/hyper-gateway> , the program that hyperdrive.el connects to as a client is, I think, exactly what you asking about. I don't know of a public HTTP gateway, but you could easily run hyper-gateway on a VPS. + - That would be fun. Then I could control the domain name so it would look cool and professional and like I was extra high-tech. + - A: hyper-gateway lets you serve multiple drives at various subdomains. For example, you could serve your primary drive at <https://reverik.tld>, and then folks could access, e.g., the USHIN drive at <https://aaj45d88g4eenu76rpmwzjiabsof1w8u6fufq6oogyhjk1ubygxy.reverik.tld> + + +- Great work, everyone. Thank you. +- Prot's presentations are so clear. Perfectly model pedagogy. +- Just like his code: his .el buffers SQUEAK as you C-v through them. +- Prot is indeed a model of paying attention to detail. +- I have learned so much from his videos, and from his code. +- Prot switching from vim/etc to Emacs seems to correspond to an inflexion point in the current Emacs renaissance does it not? Coincidence, or... I wonder what way the causal arrow goes :) + - I think the current "Emacs renaissance" probably dates back to around the time that package.el was developed and then when MELPA came online. momentum seems to have been building since then + - We must also consider Org-mode's inception as a key moment in recent Emacs history +- My Emacs environment would be much poorer without Prot's contributions, that's for sure. +- My hypothesis is that Diogenes himself made his way to Cyprus and spent the past immortal couple thousand years as a mountain hermit waiting to return to mortal life when the Emacs community needed him. Humor aside, there are a few key personalities---many of them here this weekend---who have been disproportionately catalytic to the community recently. Prot is certainly one. Thanks to all of you! + + [[!inline pages="internal(2023/info/hyperdrive-after)" raw="yes"]] |