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\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2023/info/gc-after.md b/2023/info/gc-after.md index eeb88a8f..d878219a 100644 --- a/2023/info/gc-after.md +++ b/2023/info/gc-after.md @@ -1,6 +1,610 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-after-page --> +<a name="gc-mainVideo-transcript"></a> +# Transcript + + +[[!template new="1" text="""Introduction""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] + +[[!template text="""Hello everyone, my name is Ihor Radchenko,""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you may know me from Org Mailing List.""" start="00:00:04.640" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""However, today I'm not going to talk about Org Mode.""" start="00:00:07.600" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Today I'm going to talk about""" start="00:00:09.800" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs performance and how it's affected""" start="00:00:11.920" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""by its memory management code.""" start="00:00:14.960" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""First, I will introduce the basic concepts""" start="00:00:19.040" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of Emacs memory management and what garbage collection is.""" start="00:00:21.640" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Then I will show you user statistics""" start="00:00:26.440" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""collected from volunteer users over the last half year""" start="00:00:30.560" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I will end with some guidelines""" start="00:00:34.960" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on how to tweak Emacs garbage collection customizations""" start="00:00:39.320" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to optimize Emacs performance""" start="00:00:44.720" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and when it's necessary or not to do.""" start="00:00:47.480" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] + +[[!template new="1" text="""About garbage collection in Emacs""" start="00:00:51.080" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] + +[[!template text="""Let's begin. What is garbage collection?""" start="00:00:51.080" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""To understand what is garbage collection,""" start="00:00:54.520" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we need to realize that anything you do in Emacs""" start="00:00:56.520" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is some kind of command. Any command is most likely""" start="00:00:59.040" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""running some Elisp code. Every time you run Elisp code,""" start="00:01:02.120" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you most likely need to locate certain memory in RAM.""" start="00:01:05.840" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Some of this memory is retained for a long time""" start="00:01:09.240" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and some of this memory is transient.""" start="00:01:12.880" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Of course, Emacs has to clear this transient memory""" start="00:01:15.560" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from time to time, to not occupy all the possible RAM""" start="00:01:19.120" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in the computer. In this small example,""" start="00:01:21.440" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we have one global variable""" start="00:01:21.448" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that is assigned a value,""" start="00:01:28.640" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but when assigning the value,""" start="00:01:31.280" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we first allocate a temporary variable""" start="00:01:33.080" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then a temporary list""" start="00:01:35.680" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and only retain some part of this list""" start="00:01:37.120" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in this global variable.""" start="00:01:40.080" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In terms of memory graph""" start="00:01:42.080" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we can represent this as two variable slots,""" start="00:01:44.800" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""one transient, one permanent,""" start="00:01:50.360" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then a list of three cons cells,""" start="00:01:53.160" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""part of which is retained as a global variable""" start="00:01:56.200" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but part of it which is a temporary variable symbol.""" start="00:02:01.960" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The first term of the list is not used""" start="00:02:05.000" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it might be cleared at some point.""" start="00:02:07.680" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] + +[[!template new="1" text="""Garbage collection in Emacs""" start="00:02:09.760" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] + +[[!template text="""So that's what Emacs does.""" start="00:02:09.760" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Every now and then, Emacs goes through all the memory""" start="00:02:12.240" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and identifies which part of the memory are not used""" start="00:02:15.920" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then clear them so that it can free up the RAM.""" start="00:02:19.120" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This process is called garbage collection""" start="00:02:23.760" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Emacs uses a very simple and old algorithm""" start="00:02:25.920" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is called Mark & Sweep.""" start="00:02:28.920" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So doing this mark and sweep process""" start="00:02:30.560" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is basically two stages.""" start="00:02:33.760" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""First, Emacs scans all the memory that is allocated""" start="00:02:34.880" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then identifies which memory is still in use""" start="00:02:40.040" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is linked to some variables, for example,""" start="00:02:42.760" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and which memory is not used anymore""" start="00:02:45.520" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even though it was allocated in the past.""" start="00:02:47.600" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The second stage [??] whenever a memory is not,""" start="00:02:49.560" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that is not allocated. During the process""" start="00:02:53.000" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs cannot do anything now.""" start="00:02:59.320" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So basically, every time Emacs scans the memory,""" start="00:03:00.760" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it freezes up and doesn't respond to anything,""" start="00:03:04.160" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and if it takes too much time so that users can notice it,""" start="00:03:07.200" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then of course Emacs is not responsive at all,""" start="00:03:10.960" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and if this garbage collection is triggered too frequently,""" start="00:03:13.400" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then it's not just not responsive every now and then.""" start="00:03:19.440" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's also not responsive all the time,""" start="00:03:22.400" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""almost all the time,""" start="00:03:24.680" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so it cannot even normally type or stuff""" start="00:03:26.080" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or do some normal commands.""" start="00:03:27.680" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This mark and sweep algorithm is taking longer""" start="00:03:32.440" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the more memory Emacs uses. So basically,""" start="00:03:36.720" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the more buffers you open, the more packages you load,""" start="00:03:40.200" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the more complex commands you run, the more memory is used,""" start="00:03:44.440" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and basically, the longer Emacs takes""" start="00:03:48.320" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to perform a single garbage collection.""" start="00:03:52.280" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Of course, Emacs being Emacs""" start="00:03:57.920" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this garbage collection can be tweaked.""" start="00:04:02.280" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In particular users can tweak""" start="00:04:06.040" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how frequently Emacs does garbage collection""" start="00:04:08.280" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using two basic variables: `gc-cons-threshold`""" start="00:04:10.640" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and `gc-cons-percentage`.""" start="00:04:13.880" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""`gc-cons-threshold` is the raw number of kilobytes""" start="00:04:15.520" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs needs to allocate""" start="00:04:21.600" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""before triggering another garbage collection,""" start="00:04:22.480" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the `gc-cons-percentage` is similar,""" start="00:04:25.960" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's defined in terms of fraction""" start="00:04:27.800" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of already-allocated memory.""" start="00:04:30.400" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you follow various Emacs forums,""" start="00:04:34.760" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you may be familiar with people complaining about""" start="00:04:38.240" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""garbage collection. There are many many suggestions""" start="00:04:41.960" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about what to do with it.""" start="00:04:46.480" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Most frequently, you see `gc-cons-threshold`""" start="00:04:48.040" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""recommended to be increased,""" start="00:04:54.080" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and a number of pre-packaged Emacs distributions""" start="00:04:56.880" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like Doom Emacs do increase it.""" start="00:05:01.440" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have seen suggestions which are actually horrible""" start="00:05:04.320" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to disable garbage collection temporarily""" start="00:05:07.280" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or for a long time.""" start="00:05:10.480" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Which is nice... You can see it quite frequently,""" start="00:05:14.360" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which indicates there might be some problem.""" start="00:05:17.520" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""However, every time one user poses about this problem,""" start="00:05:19.400" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's just one data point and it doesn't mean""" start="00:05:23.960" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that everyone actually suffers from it.""" start="00:05:26.880" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It doesn't mean that everyone should do it.""" start="00:05:28.880" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So in order to understand if this garbage collection""" start="00:05:33.720" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is really a problem which is a common problem""" start="00:05:35.920" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] 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+[[!template text="""I tried to collect the user statistics.""" start="00:06:07.960" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I wrote a small package on Elp""" start="00:06:09.960" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and some users installed this package""" start="00:06:14.520" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then reported back these statistics""" start="00:06:18.160" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the garbage collection for their particular use.""" start="00:06:22.120" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""By now we have obtained 129 user submissions""" start="00:06:24.280" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with over 1 million GC records in there.""" start="00:06:30.800" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So like some of these submissions""" start="00:06:34.040" video="mainVideo-gc" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template 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