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diff --git a/2023/info/sharing-after.md b/2023/info/sharing-after.md index 31494e38..2b5a7b58 100644 --- a/2023/info/sharing-after.md +++ b/2023/info/sharing-after.md @@ -438,6 +438,633 @@ Captioner: sachac +<a name="sharing-qanda-transcript"></a> +# Q&A transcript (unedited) + +[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah, we're live. So whoever's in the""" start="00:00:05.940" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""background might be able to see you live in""" start="00:00:08.240" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about 10 seconds as soon as the stream""" start="00:00:09.900" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""catches up. Hi Jacob, how are you doing?""" start="00:00:11.380" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Got that? We're live. I'm doing well.""" start="00:00:12.360" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""How are you doing today?""" start="00:00:13.080" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: I am doing well and this is the very last""" start="00:00:16.200" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""talk of the day so I'm very excited not""" start="00:00:17.960" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it finishes but because I am tired""" start="00:00:20.020" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Yeah very understandable.""" start="00:00:22.080" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well thanks for all of your hard work.""" start="00:00:23.860" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We all really appreciate it and all the other""" start="00:00:26.180" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""organizers.""" start="00:00:26.320" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: and need some sleep. Well on behalf of all""" start="00:00:28.980" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the organizers thank you but you know it all""" start="00:00:30.980" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it makes it all worthwhile when we see the""" start="00:00:33.840" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""valuable contribution that every single 1 of""" start="00:00:36.280" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""our speakers are making,""" start="00:00:37.160" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not only for recording their talks,""" start="00:00:39.559" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is a tough demand on people to say,""" start="00:00:42.180" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""oh, if you want to go to EmacsConf,""" start="00:00:43.420" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you might want to record your talk.""" start="00:00:45.480" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But then almost all of you do it and you""" start="00:00:48.960" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""spend a lot of time with us answering""" start="00:00:50.440" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""questions. So we couldn't do it.""" start="00:00:51.580" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You know, we wouldn't be spending as much""" start="00:00:53.680" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""energy, half as much energy,""" start="00:00:54.960" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if we didn't believe that it was worth it.""" start="00:00:58.320" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So now it's me thanking you on behalf of all""" start="00:01:01.120" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the speakers.""" start="00:01:01.480" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Well thank you that's part of what I wanted""" start="00:01:03.900" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get across in my talk was that coming""" start="00:01:06.040" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""together and sharing ourselves and you know""" start="00:01:08.800" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not just putting little little essays out""" start="00:01:11.140" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there and single videos but coming together""" start="00:01:13.020" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as a community you know sharing ourselves our""" start="00:01:15.720" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""faces our voices you know it really brings us""" start="00:01:18.640" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""together and makes everyone stronger.""" start="00:01:19.840" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Exactly, and I think it's been a recurring""" start="00:01:22.940" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""theme. Most of the talks we have at""" start="00:01:27.280" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""EmacsConf, they're usually about sharing,""" start="00:01:28.840" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""obviously, sharing the knowledge that they've""" start="00:01:30.580" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""acquired, either writing a package or""" start="00:01:32.960" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""learning how to use Emacs as a professor in""" start="00:01:35.860" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""academia or stuff like this.""" start="00:01:37.200" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But what I particularly like this year about""" start="00:01:39.380" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the different talks we've had is that they've""" start="00:01:41.720" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""really made the sharing even more obvious.""" start="00:01:44.479" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We've had the mentoring this afternoon and we""" start="00:01:46.720" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""have your talk about using videos as a""" start="00:01:49.640" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""different medium to get into something.""" start="00:01:51.100" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I really think in terms of accessibility""" start="00:01:54.020" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to Emacs, all of you who talked about this""" start="00:01:58.780" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""topic are doing a wonderful job.""" start="00:01:59.960" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, thank you again for all of this.""" start="00:02:01.400" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Thank you. Yeah, do we have any questions to""" start="00:02:04.080" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""be answering?""" start="00:02:04.360" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah, so only 1 for now and I'll invite""" start="00:02:08.199" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""people as usual to please add their question""" start="00:02:10.860" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the pad or to join us on BBB.""" start="00:02:12.720" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Now the chat is open if you want to join us""" start="00:02:15.920" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on BBB and ask your questions directly.""" start="00:02:17.480" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And in the meantime, I will read the first""" start="00:02:20.520" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""question. So, Kroting,""" start="00:02:22.700" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are you using OxReveal to make your slides?""" start="00:02:25.040" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If not, what are you using?""" start="00:02:26.520" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They look very elegant,""" start="00:02:27.740" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I concur.""" start="00:02:28.820" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: That's true. I am using OxReveal.""" start="00:02:32.920" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have a whole entire video on it.""" start="00:02:35.320" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you're interested,""" start="00:02:36.020" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""feel free to take a look.""" start="00:02:37.840" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's very simple to get started with.""" start="00:02:39.960" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There are a lot of different packages to use""" start="00:02:42.560" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Reveal.js and Emacs. OxReveal or OrgReveal""" start="00:02:45.640" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""seems to be pretty easy to use.""" start="00:02:47.320" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So try that 1 out. Yeah,""" start="00:02:48.840" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's really nice.""" start="00:02:49.440" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Awesome. I'm going to give a little bit of""" start="00:02:54.020" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""time for the other people to finish writing""" start="00:02:55.840" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""their answer. In the meantime,""" start="00:02:56.980" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll ask you 1 of my own.""" start="00:02:58.260" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you said you were in college,""" start="00:02:59.620" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""right? In com sci. Sorry,""" start="00:03:01.500" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Yeah.""" start="00:03:02.980" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: computer science. I think it's great to find""" start="00:03:07.240" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""people in computer science who have,""" start="00:03:08.860" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from the get-go, as soon as their bachelor,""" start="00:03:11.780" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""an appetite for sharing and vulgarizing a lot""" start="00:03:16.220" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of knowledge. Because it feels like if you""" start="00:03:17.780" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""get started like this,""" start="00:03:18.540" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you're gonna have a well over time as you""" start="00:03:20.580" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""progress with the learning.""" start="00:03:21.500" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm very excited to see what you do in the""" start="00:03:23.720" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""coming years because of this.""" start="00:03:24.720" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Thank you, thank you, yeah.""" start="00:03:26.420" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And Emacs has been like very central to my""" start="00:03:29.700" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""education as well. 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If only they knew how much time it""" start="00:03:48.040" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""takes us to get LaTeX to behave properly.""" start="00:03:49.840" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: Emacs. Right, right. I see some more""" start="00:03:52.680" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""questions coming in I can answer.""" start="00:03:53.980" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Sure, I'll read it for you so that it's a""" start="00:03:56.940" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""little more interactive.""" start="00:03:57.440" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, second question. 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All right, thank you so much.""" start="00:23:46.560" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Should I drop off of our call now and let you""" start="00:23:48.900" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""close things up?""" start="00:23:50.000" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah, we're probably gonna close thing up.""" start="00:23:52.600" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me just check on Sasha.""" start="00:23:53.600" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sasha is obviously answering many many""" start="00:23:55.380" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""questions about how we are organizing""" start="00:23:57.180" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""EmacsConf. 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I'm glad I was able to""" start="00:24:18.840" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""generate such a feeling.""" start="00:24:19.920" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, I'll get going now.""" start="00:24:21.600" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Jacob, have a wonderful evening.""" start="00:24:23.260" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: And here you are. You too,""" start="00:24:23.940" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""see you later.""" start="00:24:24.400" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Bye-bye. And folks, what are we going to do""" start="00:24:28.140" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""right now? 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In the meantime,""" start="00:24:47.720" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll put on some music.""" start="00:24:48.840" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So bear with us and I'll see you shortly.""" start="00:24:51.300" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And closing here. This BBB recording.""" start="00:25:15.660" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yay!""" start="00:25:16.360" video="qanda-sharing" id="subtitle"]] + Questions or comments? Please e-mail [jakebox0@protonmail.com](mailto:jakebox0@protonmail.com?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20sharing%3A%20Sharing%20Emacs%20is%20Caring%20Emacs%3A%20Emacs%20education%20and%20why%20I%20embraced%20video) |