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[Speaker 0]: All right, I've started the recording,
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so Sasha, you don't need to worry about this.
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Hi Jeremy, how are you doing?
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[Speaker 1]: I'm doing great, how about you?
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[Speaker 0]: I am also doing great,
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I am feeling replenished after this lunch
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break and I am happy to go back for 4 more
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[Speaker 1]: Me too. Let me
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[Speaker 0]: hours of conferences. just,
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yeah great, Let me just put up the questions.
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So Jeremy is going to read the questions and
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answer them and I will be doing jazz hands in
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the background or provide any bits of
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information I may, considering that Orgrim
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has been mentioned during the presentation
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and everyone's going to want to ask me.
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at... Show me? Yeah, go.
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[Speaker 1]: So I'm looking I'm looking at the,
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do you think the line numbers for writing
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documents is kind of a distraction,
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especially for notes? No,
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I do software development and that left
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fringe is kind of invisible,
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but I do like to use jump to line.
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So I just bind that to control L and it's
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helpful to just see that.
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So no, I haven't noticed that.
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There are other ways to jump around in Emacs,
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but I like to have many different ways.
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So, yeah. Then how do you manage private and
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public data with your Zettelkasten?
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1 of my blockers on putting my Zettelkasten
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on the web is I don't want everything to be
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public, especially fleeting notes.
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So 1 thing is I only explicitly export a file
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to Hugo and I have that,
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I can like, I can export this.
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That doesn't show up very well.
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So it's export probably export org to take on
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rules and we'll export the buffer.
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And then any that I referenced,
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like these are all links,
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any notes that are not public will be
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exported as the text, but there won't be a
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link to it. So it's having the very
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deliberate, this is going up.
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And so I send it over into Hugo,
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which is its own repository,
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and either massage it there or whatnot.
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Is that any further questions on that 1?
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[Speaker 0]: I don't think so.
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[Speaker 1]: Is there anything special you're using from
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org to Hugo markdown? This looks like a
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really nice setup. I like to give it a try.
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Yes, there I have a bespoke build process.
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Having started in WordPress,
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working through Jekyll,
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going to Hugo, and then switching from
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Markdown to org mode, I've backed into this
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private public Zettelkasten,
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which is really nice. And I have added quite
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a bit of code. There's my dog.
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[Speaker 0]: blogging.
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[Speaker 1]: In my So I have, how do I export like side
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notes because I want I have marginalia
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instead of like the footnotes,
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but I still use org mode footnotes.
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And so I've got a bunch of these things and
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this is all available up on GitHub And I'll
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provide a link in the document.
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Yeah, so there's quite a bit of making the
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export work how I want it.
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And I've been kind of fiddling with also
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improving like LaTeX or PDF export.
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So yeah, I have a long running to do item to
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fully lay out my bespoke build process.
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Because once it gets to Hugo,
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there's also additional work that I do to
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compile what is kind of a personal,
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like a digital garden-ish,
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it's really a blog focused 1.
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So yeah, it's at Jeremy F on GitHub at dot
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Emacs. And you'll be looking for JF
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blogging.l that has some of this.
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Also jforgmode.l will have some of that.
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Yeah, I wanna circle back to that,
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anything to prevent private links from
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getting accidentally being made publicly
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accessible. Yes. So previous to using denote,
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I also used org-roam. So I have this idea of
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a node in org-roam has roam refs.
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And org-roam is much more robust about that.
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So anytime you mention a ref,
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it will count it as a backlink.
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So for example, if my node was my blog,
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take on rules, anytime,
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anywhere in my org Rome repository,
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I mentioned takeonrules.com,
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it would treat it as a backlink.
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So from that Rome refs,
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I have a, I will interrogate,
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and this is not the function for I will look
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at the node to see does it have a Rome ref
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and if it does I will treat it as a public
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link. So I don't I haven't bled out any
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private information because again going back
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to I only publish a document and the document
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I'm explicitly doing so and then my process
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filters out any links that do not have public
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URLs. It will just dump it in there as maybe
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a span with a ref class of it so that I can
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kind of know that that came from there.
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Yes, So the font I am using is,
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so this is another font.
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What font were you using in EWW?
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I think I'm using IOS Becca and ET Bembo.
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[Speaker 0]: Okay, show me your EWW.
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If we are doing full ricing setup,
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I can recognize Yosefka just by looking at
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it.
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[Speaker 1]: So let's... Yeah, so yeah,
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ET Bembo, I'm using these 2 fonts as kind of
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my anchor. So the variable pitch is ETBembo.
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My blog started off with a Tufta style CSS
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and I really pared it down and got rid of any
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of the additional fonts because they can be
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used as trackers. And I'm like,
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nope, you decide what font you want for your
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browser. I don't need to tell you what looks
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good for you. Yeah, so the story of Take On
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Rules, I have to thank my partner and lovely
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wife for that. She kind of nudged me to do
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some blogging, and we spent some time
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thinking about it. And originally,
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it started off as writing about rules for
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role-playing games or tabletop games.
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And it has extended far beyond that.
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The blog, as I've shifted,
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as I think I mentioned in the presentation,
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as I've shifted towards an everything and
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nothing approach, the blog is anything I want
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to write about anymore.
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There's haikus up there with some regularity.
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So the name is now a relic of a past.
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So yeah, the thing and nothing is,
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and I put that in the about on my blog.
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So it's, I highly encourage like,
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I feel great. Once I like said,
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oh, I don't have to write this towards a
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topical blog post or like what the topic is,
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it freed it up. And I know that it comes at a
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potential compromise because it's very much
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me being a voice up there instead of
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something that is curated and filtered
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through a specific channel like I could have
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a technical blog but I decided I'm just gonna
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tag it as programming or emacs and let you
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find it and you can subscribe to the rss
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feeds of each tag that you find applicable
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[Speaker 0]: right thank you so we are we are at the last
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question on the pad but I see that some
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people have joined us on the blue button.
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So, hi everyone! We have about 6 minutes
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until we need to go to the next talk,
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but if anyone has a question on the blue
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button, I'm thinking about James who's joined
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us and who was kind enough to drop a thank
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you line on the blue button.
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Do you want to unmute yourself and ask a
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question maybe? I'm not putting pressure by
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the way, I don't feel like you need to but it
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just... I speak all the time otherwise I'm
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very happy to spend time with our speakers
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you know but you know EmacsConf it's about,
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as Sasha told you during the intro,
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it's about making people take things,
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brilliant things out of their mind and put
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them outside in the public.
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And for us, you know, we get to see the talk
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evolve, we talk with people.
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So for us we are already quite cognizant of
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the topic and the point is not for us hosts
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to ask questions, it's mostly for you to ask
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questions and then we worry about all the
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fancy stuff in the background.
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Otherwise you damn well know I will ask
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questions about org-roam,
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about links, and nodes in general,
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because that's my bread and butter.
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[Speaker 1]: Yeah, I should add, like,
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the process of migrating the data from a
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WordPress export to markdown to org mode by
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way of Pandoc was, it was really insightful
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to help me understand how I want the data to
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flow and how I could create a repository for
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me of information and 1 that I could then
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send out into the world,
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the public information,
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while not having to worry about the private
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things that I might want to keep.
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So it was that process of just working
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through it to reflect on how I'm writing and
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what I started using writing for.
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I think Richard Feynman said,
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no, writing is my thinking.
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What I wrote is thinking.
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So it has helped to really frame that.
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[Speaker 0]: Yeah, I mean, there's an interesting
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ambivalent relationship because it feels like
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writing helps thinking and thinking helps
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writing in a way and nowhere have I
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personally been more aware of this than when
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coming up with networks of notes because it
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really I mean you use whichever word you want
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you know a second brain a collection of notes
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a slip box a repository of notes whichever
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the tool you use the point at the end is to
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resonate with you. It's kind of like
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extending those moments of consciousness that
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you have when you take your notes,
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and you make the entire gradient available.
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Sorry, I heard Sasha whispering in my ear
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sometimes. It's pretty pleasant.
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It's really shocking.
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[Speaker 1]: Yeah, Aaron, you had a question.
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Do I use denote just for my blogs or do I use
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it for other purposes?
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I use denote for all of my note taking and
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almost, I think it's exclusively org mode
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that I, that I use it in.
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But what I really appreciated in the
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consideration that Proc put forward was the
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file name encodes the information that's
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relevant. So it has helped me be able to
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query by using things like ripgrep,
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well not ripgrep, tree or I forget any more
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what I use. But having that the file encodes
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useful information. And it's so much more
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relevant when I look at having worked at a
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university that rolled out Google Drive to
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everyone without any guidance on how to
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organize stuff. And I worked at a library and
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it was just a nightmare watching things show
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up where you could never find it again.
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So, file name, the file name having the date,
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having the title and having tags just made so
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much sense to be findable.
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And yeah, I really do just use org.
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But if I am going to make txt files or other
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files, I have started adopting that structure
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and format.
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[Speaker 0]: Right. Well, Jeremy, we have about 1 minute
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and 30 seconds left until we go on to the
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next talk. Do you have any final words
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regarding your presentation or maybe where
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people can find you? I know you've already
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mentioned this but...
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[Speaker 1]: Yeah, take on rules. I'm also on dice camp
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dice.campmastodon at take on rules and I've
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thought about emacs.h but we federate well So
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I appreciate that. And I can stay on and
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answer any further questions if folks have
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it.
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[Speaker 0]: Sure. So sorry. Sorry,
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I confused myself with the buttons talking to
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production and all. Well then,
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what I'm going to do is that the stream is
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going to move on to the next talk in about 50
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seconds. If people want to join and ask any
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questions, feel free to join on the blue
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button. The link is on the talk page or on
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IRC. And feel free to hang out as long as you
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want to ask as many questions as you want to
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Jeremy. We are recording all of this and
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we'll be publishing this later on once again.
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And all that's left for me to do is to thank
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you so much, Jeremy, for your presentation
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and your answers. And I will see you another
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time.
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[Speaker 1]: So yeah, plasma strike.
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I'm not able to grant speaking powers.
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So if you wanted to type up something
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question-wise.
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[Speaker 0]: Oh, okay. I'll manage this in the background.
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So we're moving on to the next talk.
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We'll figure out the things about VBB,
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But in the meantime, enjoy the next talk.
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Bye. All right, Jeremy.
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We are now on the next talk.
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Sorry about having to mention multiple things
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at the same time. Speaking rights.
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I will try fixing this in the background.
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I need to get moving for the next talk,
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but I'll do it in the background and we'll
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let you know as soon as it's ready.
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[Speaker 1]: We're doing great. Okay.
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[Speaker 0]: Alright, bye bye Jeremy.