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diff --git a/2022/talks/journalism.md b/2022/talks/journalism.md index 19728be4..2ca1f2fd 100644 --- a/2022/talks/journalism.md +++ b/2022/talks/journalism.md @@ -80,6 +80,126 @@ that you love every day is the most important point to me So let's keep modding our configs! +# Discussion + +## Notes + +- WRT Literate programming, if you've never read Knuth's + Tangle/Web/Weave stuff, it's worth knowing about +- Using the Calendar in conjunction with task managment and email show + off the power off the holistic workflow of Emacs +- CRDT-- an easy way to work with other people in emacs -- + <https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt.el> +- Yes, liberal arts types. +- I relate with so much of this talk so far :-P +- I didn't know about :ignore: for org-mode headings. Is that set up by default? +- I also use COMMENT as a todo and it is ignored too. +- Ahhhhh. Good call. I use TODO in headings when I'm writing to remind me to finish sections later. +- Yeah, I use :noexport: in pretty much every doc for all of my notes and throwaway scratch writing and stuff. +- Huh, CRDT sounds interesting. +- I export docs to Markdown, but I also use pandoc to generate DOCX files from org. Because most writers aren't using Emacs. +- Thanks, I'll check that out. The writers and editors that I'm working with are frequestly looking for ways to handle change tracking and version tracking for docs. I recommend stuff like git but they need something that's easier for non-techie folks to use. +- Feedback + - Great talk! + - Well done! + - flipping great stuff. Thanks!!!!!! + +## Questions and answers + +- Q: It'd be interesting if you explained why WeChat is a necessity + for you; outside China, most people have no reason to use it at + all. Thanks. + - A: I think he meant Weechat (the IRC client) not WeChat -- + Chinese exigency + - The captioning did mention WeChat. If he lives in Hong Kong, + then I totally understand, so consider this question answered. + - Oh nvm then + - Yeah, you've (Alfred) gotten WeChat spot on. Most people here + don't care much, but I'm probably one of the only people in + this country not using WeChat, and it's a major PITA to live + without. +- Q:Have you looked at CRDT.el for collaborative realtime editing? + - A: most of my work is just versions + - CRDT has great org mode support for task managent + - CRDT + - <https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt.el/> + - <https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/crdt.html> + - related: + <https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CollaborativeEditing> +- Q:Sharing orgmode files is trickier than we expect. Do you do this? + If yes, how do you do it? + - A: Direct sharing was not successful. Exporting to docx or ODT + is problematic (Latex structure). + - has tried github and gitlab, but that might require signups - is + also suboptimal + - Export profiles for ODT or DOCX is a better approach, or at + least worked well so far + - Karl Voit's notes on collaborative working with non-Org users: + - - <http://irreal.org/blog/?p=6234> + - - + <https://www.wisdomandwonder.com/link/9922/how-to-reintegrate-changes-for-word-back-into-org-mode> + - - Export to docx via pandoc and re-import via =pandoc + --track-changes=all= + - : pandoc --track-changes=all Document.docx + Compare_to_original.org + - - + <https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/ad43hf/question_how_do_you_manage_tasks_calendars_with/> + - - <https://github.com/200ok-ch/organice>: an implementation + of Org mode without the dependency of Emacs. It is built for + mobile and desktop browsers and syncs with Dropbox, Google + Drive and WebDAV. + - - [2021-06-08 Tue] + <https://www.reddit.com/r/orgmode/comments/nuit8u/coordinating_with_people_who_dont_use_emacs_or/> + → discussion + - Karl Voit's notes on collaborative working with Emacs users: + - - 2020-05-29 + <https://gitlab.com/emacsomancer/collaborative-writing-environment-emacs> + - - special emacs setup that allows collaboration on the + same LAN + - - needs separate emacs config (different host or user or + move config out of the way) + - - [ ] try it out myself + - - [2020-08-31 Mon] <http://typeintandem.com/> + + <https://github.com/jscheid/tandem-emacs> + - - unmaintained: + <https://github.com/jscheid/tandem-emacs/issues/1> + - - [2021-11-03 Wed] + <https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt.el.git> + - - via Sacha Chua's EmacsConf21 Emacs news +- Q:Do you use pandoc for incoming and outgoing docs? Do you find that + repeated conversions lose document quality? + - A: Layouts are kind of wonky, but that's possible to work through if you go into the settings and adjust basically to how you want it to look like. + - And for incoming docs, so that's a bit more of a hassle. My plan for this talk was to have it a bit more ready, but I've got this integration for org-ic, org-apple-pages documents, that kind of thing. So that's often the documents that I get from my colleagues, and I found a way to transfer them into org documents. I did that kind of quickly, so I don't think I'm quite ready to share exactly how it went, but I'm planning on doing some documentation around that. But yeah, basically the gist of it is, I don't find it a huge issue. +- Q: I am beginning on emacs (again) after falling off every time + because of the "working in config-files" whole day. What was your + moment when you really started to work in emacs instead of + config-editing? + - A: Had the click after finding text editor workflow. Don't be + too frustrated :-) , use templates, put ideas off to a later + moment. + - related: <https://xkcd.com/1205/> and <https://xkcd.com/1319/> +- Q: Why is emacs recommended for journalism? -vidianos asks + - A: I wouldn't say it's recommended-- a personal choice-- + valuable as a tool-- can be tailored so that it's easy to + transfer skills from other disciplines-- more scientific ones + to journalism. Org-Roam is a game changer because it allows me + to set thoughts aside and know that I can get back to it. Helps + with self-control. +- Q: Do you use any fancy solutions for annotation text onto + particular video timestamps? + - Clarification: Yes, asking about making notes on a video, when + something happens + - Side Note: subd.el could be useful + <https://github.com/sachac/subed> + - A: Taking notes with org-roam and linking them to BiBTeX etc +- Q: When you get stuck with an emacs problem-- is there somewhere you go to get help (nice place for non-tech people?) +- Q: is it possible to use emacs bookmarks capability to literally bookmark a specific timestamp in a video clip (and by that the note taking could be done in that bookmark instance)… ? +- Q: is Alfred australian? + - I suspect he's Swiss +- Thanks, I'll check that out. The writers and editors that I'm working with are frequestly looking for ways to handle change tracking and version tracking for docs. I recommend stuff like git but they need something that's easier for non-techie folks to use. +- I did not know about org-mpv +- There isn't a proper org-mpv, but there are a few functions to combine mpv.el with org-mode here: https://github.com/kljohann/mpv.el/wiki +- Alfred is a very quick learner [[!inline pages="internal(2022/info/journalism-after)" raw="yes"]] |