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diff --git a/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-maint--maintaining-the-maintainers-attribution-as-an-economic-model-for-open-source--sid-kasivajhula--answers.vtt b/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-maint--maintaining-the-maintainers-attribution-as-an-economic-model-for-open-source--sid-kasivajhula--answers.vtt index f7dd1b18..80a659b8 100644 --- a/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-maint--maintaining-the-maintainers-attribution-as-an-economic-model-for-open-source--sid-kasivajhula--answers.vtt +++ b/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-maint--maintaining-the-maintainers-attribution-as-an-economic-model-for-open-source--sid-kasivajhula--answers.vtt @@ -1,13 +1,18 @@ WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:08.160 -now. We seem to be back. Sorry for the little shuffling chairs around. We are now live with +Okay, so we seem to be back. Sorry for the little shuffling chairs around. We are now live with 00:08.160 --> 00:16.400 Sid. Hi, Sid. Let me contextualize a little bit for the people because we are on Gen right now -00:16.400 --> 00:22.800 -and the talk was happening on Dev. Sid, can I ask you explaining what your talk was about in about +00:16.400 --> 00:00:18.620 +and the talk was happening on Dev. + +NOTE Short recap of what the talk was about? + +00:00:18.720 --> 00:00:22.800 +Sid, can I ask you explaining what your talk was about in about 00:22.800 --> 00:28.560 one to two minutes? Yes, sure. The talk was called Maintaining the Maintainer's Attribution @@ -63,6 +68,8 @@ time is going to dilute, we'll have to stick with strict adherence to chronology 02:02.800 --> 02:07.680 starting with Sid, do you want to take the first question on the pad? Okay, let's look at them. +NOTE What's the incentive to pay? + 02:09.280 --> 02:14.960 So the first question is, this seems to assume that there will be money contributions commensured @@ -120,14 +127,24 @@ to figure these out, so there's promising angles here, but I think we have a lot 03:56.480 --> 04:03.360 well. Should I go to the second question? Yeah, feel free to do so, you are the master, you're -04:03.360 --> 04:11.040 -in Q&A. Okay, so the second question is, are you aware of projects like OpenQ, would that fit the +04:03.360 --> 00:04:03.914 +in Q&A. + +NOTE What do you think of projects like OpenQ? + +00:04:04.014 --> 00:04:11.040 +Okay, so the second question is, are you aware of projects like OpenQ, would that fit the 04:11.040 --> 04:18.960 model in your opinion? I'm actually not familiar with OpenQ, so maybe I should just move on to the -04:18.960 --> 04:25.840 -next question and come back to that if we have time. Sure. The next one says, I see incredible +04:18.960 --> 00:04:23.205 +next question and come back to that if we have time. Sure. + +NOTE Are you aware of SourceCred? + +00:04:23.305 --> 00:04:25.840 +The next one says, I see incredible 04:25.840 --> 04:30.800 amounts of overlap with the source cred system, where attribution of antecedents, graph of @@ -237,8 +254,13 @@ but we are going to be opening the pad in about six to seven minutes if you want 07:30.400 --> 07:35.520 questions live to Sid, but in the meantime, Sid, sorry, I'm getting tired, it's late, in the meantime, -07:35.520 --> 07:41.280 -Sid, feel free to answer more questions. Sure, okay, thank you. The next question is, +07:35.520 --> 00:07:39.789 +Sid, feel free to answer more questions. Sure, okay, thank you. + +NOTE How is this different from money? + +00:07:39.889 --> 00:07:41.280 +The next question is, 07:41.280 --> 07:46.480 how is this different from money? Not in some abstract ownership versus attribution way. @@ -279,6 +301,8 @@ can invest in open-source projects, which is a new incentive, and, you know, we 08:53.520 --> 08:58.080 how there are some unopened questions. I'm not sure if this is one of them. +NOTE How would you approach a viable experiment for ABE? + 08:58.080 --> 09:07.680 How would you approach a viable experiment? So, the prototype that we have, that we talked about @@ -321,8 +345,13 @@ just one or two repos, because there's tremendous number of unresolved questions 10:19.840 --> 10:27.360 to be resolved through dialogue, agreement. We all decide how this thing works, and I think, -10:27.360 --> 10:36.400 -you know, there's, yeah, so we'll see about how the experiment goes. Next question, given that +10:27.360 --> 00:10:33.899 +you know, there's, yeah, so we'll see about how the experiment goes. + +NOTE How do you constrain the cognitive and time burdens of deciding the values of attributed contributions? + +00:10:33.999 --> 00:10:36.400 +Next question, given that 10:36.400 --> 10:45.040 oversight is a social process, how do you constrain the cognitive and time burdens of deciding the @@ -411,6 +440,8 @@ Sid, you can answer more questions. Sure. Should we take one from the field? 13:25.360 --> 13:28.080 I guess while people are thinking about it, I'll take one more question, maybe. +NOTE How are the attribution amounts calculated? + 13:29.360 --> 13:37.440 Okay. So, the next question is, how are the attribution amounts calculated? @@ -495,8 +526,13 @@ be divided amongst all of these antecedents and contributors. Let's see, what's 16:22.800 --> 16:26.240 Okay, the next question is being written down as we speak. -16:26.240 --> 16:33.200 -It's fine, we can wait a little bit. In the meantime, I'll just mention, +16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.720 +It's fine, we can wait a little bit. + +NOTE Synchronicity with Bastien's talk last year + +00:16:29.820 --> 00:16:33.200 +In the meantime, I'll just mention, 16:35.360 --> 16:41.360 so actually, when we keep track of presentation for Emacs, we do have slugs for them. And this @@ -525,6 +561,8 @@ year? I have not, but that sounds very interesting. I'll definitely check it out 17:22.080 --> 17:27.360 Right. And I will now stop my blabbering, and you can answer the last question. +NOTE What are your assumptions about human nature? + 17:28.960 --> 17:32.640 The last question is, what are your assumptions about human nature, @@ -639,6 +677,8 @@ mistaken. That's the last one I see. Yes. Well, you did a fine job answering, ho 21:09.920 --> 21:15.920 questions before. Again, very lengthy, as you said, but very eloquent, as I will say to you. +NOTE What is the URL of the project? + 21:17.680 --> 21:22.080 There is one question that appeared on ISE, which was the URL of the project. You mentioned @@ -651,8 +691,13 @@ check it, and I'll place it on ISE for the person that was asking? Or on BBB, it 21:34.000 --> 21:41.520 It's actually dream-org. Oh, that's why I did dream.org, which was the problem. -21:43.840 --> 21:47.280 -It's the GitHub repo. And actually, sorry, you should also check out +21:43.840 --> 00:21:44.902 +It's the GitHub repo. + +NOTE Check out the prototype, "Old Abe" + +00:21:45.002 --> 00:21:47.280 +And actually, sorry, you should also check out 21:48.480 --> 21:55.840 dream-org.old-abe. That is the billing prototype, which is the GitHub action, @@ -669,8 +714,13 @@ dash org slash old-abe. 22:18.080 --> 22:25.280 It's good for you for remembering it. I will place this in BBB right now. Sorry, -22:25.280 --> 22:32.640 -not in BBB, in the pad so that people can click on it. Sid, is there anything else you'd like to +22:25.280 --> 00:22:29.420 +not in BBB, in the pad so that people can click on it. + +NOTE Closing Remarks + +00:22:29.520 --> 00:22:32.640 +Sid, is there anything else you'd like to 22:32.640 --> 22:41.200 say? We are about at the end of the Q&A right now. I guess attribution-based economics is open for @@ -711,6 +761,8 @@ people to join. So I encourage you to do so. Thank you. Well, thank you. You've 23:45.920 --> 23:50.320 made a very nice case for it, and people can make their own minds now by checking the link. +NOTE A flicker of light and following your curiosity + 23:50.320 --> 23:55.280 We really encourage you to follow up on a lot of the talks. It's one thing. One thing that we always @@ -752,34 +804,3 @@ that we've presented to you today. So thank you so much, Sid, for all your time, 25:04.960 --> 25:09.280 presentation, and your answers. Thank you so much, Leo. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me. - -25:10.320 --> 25:14.480 -Great. I'll still make some last-minute announcement. So we are still running, - -25:14.480 --> 25:23.280 -sorry, the elves are yelling in my ears again. We will be waiting a little bit for the track, - -25:24.480 --> 25:29.280 -development track to finish, which should take about five to ten minutes, and we will reconvene - -25:29.280 --> 25:33.920 -in seven minutes in this channel for the closing remarks for day one. So see you in a bit, - -25:33.920 --> 25:48.000 -and thank you again, Sid. Thank you. Okay, Sid, we are not live anymore. Thank you so much. I need - -25:48.000 --> 25:51.040 -to get going. I need to prepare the closing remarks. All right. Thank you so much, Leo. - -25:51.040 --> 25:57.760 -Appreciate it. Where can I watch the closing remarks? Closing remarks? You go to emacs.org - -25:57.760 --> 26:03.520 -slash 2022. You'll have everything over there. Watch. I'm going to give you the page. I have - -26:03.520 --> 26:11.280 -the time to do this. 22, watch. Check on BBB. We will be on the general channel in about - -26:11.280 --> 26:28.240 -six minutes. Okay, perfect. Thanks, Leo. See you in a bit. See ya. - |