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-welcome everyone uh my name is ferming i
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-work as a commonwealth engineer at
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-ribbon pack and today i'm going to talk
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-about
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-how to build an e-max
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-right
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-so uh let's start by defining what is an
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-imax
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-so that this can be a really this can be
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-really hard depending on
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-what you want to say what you want to
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-qualify what emas is and not i'm going
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-to
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-get just this definition it's not the
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-best but it's mine right
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-so i would argue that an emacs should
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-have text editing capabilities
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-i wouldn't say it should be a text
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-editor but it should be able to work
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-really well with text
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-as you have introspection and a global
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-state
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-so you can ask them every time
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-um software itself i think it should be
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-able to modify itself while running
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-um so you shouldn't be static and you
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-shouldn't never restart for
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-any reason like in engineering max you
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-can't predefine every function or every
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-functionality the way you want
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-and extensibility should not be limited
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-with this i mean that if you add a new
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-package shouldn't be a difference you
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-shouldn't have an api
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-to extend the software and the entire uh
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-software itself should be the external
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-api code
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-i'll argue that's also
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-um
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-should be list base
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-but
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-um it's controversial so
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-yes they're going to get this definition
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-and then extend upon it so
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-bear with me
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-so right now uh genuine max is the best
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-emacs that we have that's not the only
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-one uh
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-not even the first one imax but it's the
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-best one that we have the one that we're
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-using the one that we that i'm using
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-right now and the one that we're here
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-for
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-but as we all know it's not perfect i'm
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-going to highlight some
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-um imperfection that all that we should
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-know i guess that you must have
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-so the first one is that uh i would
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-argue that inmate lisp is a good lisp
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-but it's not a general purpose
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-programming language
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-you can do pretty crazy things with
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-emacs but i will argue that you can do
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-also do that with
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-brain [ __ ] i'm not comparing them i know
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-with my list so much better than brain
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-[ __ ] but that's not an argument in
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-mclisp it's
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-a language for an editor
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-not for writing
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-game engine for example
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-um it's not the fastest lisp we all know
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-this is um
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-not in the middle i will say was really
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-slow now it's getting better maybe with
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-the c integration
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-um thanks to andrea it can be even
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-better but we'll see and has limited
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-concurrency this will still be the case
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-it has shared threats first i know
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-it's not perfect and it's also not that
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-fast
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-and even though this for some people is
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-not an issue
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-i'll argue that for me it's an issue
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-which is the canoe emac score is written
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-in the c
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-um i'm not a big fan of c i mean i have
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-wrote things about c in the past and
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-it's
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-okay as a language but um i prefer i'll
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-be in lisp so i can hack on it easily
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-and really find it while it's running
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-all in just one language so you don't
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-have to learn two languages to get into
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-it
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-um even though it's just ten percent of
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-emacs right but still there needs to be
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-maintained and yeah
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-i don't like that uh kind of uh a max
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-aspect but just
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-this was just my opinion okay so while
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-you're like you know mac's pretty good
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-you should use it
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-you probably use it if you're here and
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-use it every day it's great
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-so
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-some people in the past
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-wanted to write
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-an e-max of course and not the emacs
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-and they think about different things
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-and they attempt to write similar emacs
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-like things i'm going to um
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-i know there's a lot of more way more
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-emacs than the one i'm going to say now
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-but i just going to
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-focus on the emacs that uh meets the
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-criteria are not like
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-uh the linux turbo's emacs right which
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-is just a c
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-simple e max to write c for me that may
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-be uh
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-an e max for the people but not for me i
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-wouldn't argue that that's not
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-really an emacs just an editor with
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-commands similar to imax
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-but
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-i digress okay so the language i will
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-argue that common lisp may be the best
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-language
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-period
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-sorry about that the best language for
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-writing emacs also
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-um it's a timeless standard reaching in
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-the 1990s is fast and reliable
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-it's a great lisp i will argue that the
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-best lisp but i don't want to get any
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-trouble so i would just say it's great
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-lisp
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-um has good library support doesn't have
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-like a huge library like i would say
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-python or c but pretty
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-robust and good library
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-similar to mclisp which may seem as a
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-historical accident which maybe it is
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-but also in this case has some
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-interesting properties that will
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-be discussed
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-later
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-okay so
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-um
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-taking common lisps a language to write
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-an imax i'm going to get some
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-technologies in documentation that we
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-can use to write an e-max in common lisp
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-so the first one is mcclaim which is an
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-implementation of a
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-common lisp interface standard
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-this is great i mean i loved how
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-this is written how it is defined i like
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-standard things
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-um mclean it's a marvelous tool i will
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-argue that it's the best
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-um toolkit
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-i wouldn't say there's a toolkit because
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-it's way more extense than it but it's
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-great i would highly recommend if you
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-want to write a gui application in
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-common lisp well mcclain is great
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-also some people thought about
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-libraries for writing emac style
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-application so to create an emacs some
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-people already thought about this and
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-wrote a paper
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-um
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-one of them was robert strand
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-which is the guy more interested in in
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-imax like things
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-and this paper is great you can get a
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-lot of information how you can write
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-your application get
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-similar functionality and all the things
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-that i said before
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-and also the same
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-of the
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-robert strand or the guys that wrote
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-that paper also wrote clefo which is
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-a library for text editor buffer but
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-more important it's also a definition
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-so this video
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-out there will where he explains
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-um
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-what clapper is so he wrote an
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-implementation of clover but it's more
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-of like a
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-um
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-yeah
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-like a standard like a way to write
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-uh how buffers or work in emacs
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-and i think it's better
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-in some ways that what imac genuine mac
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-does right now
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-um in other ways it's really interesting
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-and i just have had a lot of fun
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-implementing it so
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-i'm using it more or less
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-uh so yeah that's some great
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-documentation great foundation so you
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-don't have to
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-i mean it's
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-really
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-interesting to write everything by
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-yourself because you are
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-a great
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-programmer and you you want to have
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-control of everything i understand
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-everything from the ground up but we
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-have to understand that
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-an imax it's a really complex
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-application
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-and
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-i will say that if you have some
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-foundation it will be easier and you
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-don't have to rewrite the wheel 20 times
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-right
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-okay so attempts uh the same guy robert
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-strand
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-have two climax which is emacs and emacs
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-like thing written in common lisp
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-um the first ones the third one is
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-abandon and the second one is a work in
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-progress
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-um it's really interesting the second
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-one uses in fact the clefor buffer
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-implementation one question
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-and the first one is just a mcclaim um
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-front end remax so it's really tight the
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-so the the
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-interface retired with the api so it's
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-basically i'm sickly
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-um software that's similar to an emacs
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-right
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-and the third one it's a lem project
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-which is a common lisp editor that aims
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-to be really close to remax and it
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-probably fits the criteria but
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-and uses the encourages for the
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-interface for as i know and it's really
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-commonly focused so it even has some
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-major modes for other languages but
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-i mean it's
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-um
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-it's mainly for common lisp written by
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-common lisp and for common list
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-developers
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-um so i decided to write my own emacs
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-but i don't want to write everything
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-from scratch
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-because i'm not a creator programmer
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-and also because probably there's
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-something that some people already tried
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-and the first thing i noticed with all
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-these attempts
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-that they fail in compete with emacs so
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-to say they don't have an imax conf
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-and they don't support genuine max
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-packages
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-and that's a big deal because they're
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-more of the thousands packages out there
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-under great
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-and imagine they want to convince
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-someone to say hey try this editor
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-instead of x thing
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-i would say okay can i use git things so
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-i have to write a git
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-um
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-liar
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-maggot or mode and i want to play tetris
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-the other road so that's
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-really
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-hard for one person to do
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-so someone
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-thought similar so they say okay i'm
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-going to rewrite the maxi aph common
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-lisp
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-it was this is what back in 2005 by sol
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-bets
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-sabits
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-but it was banjo in 2007. the project
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-was called lice
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-and
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-it was a really interesting approach
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-um it wasn't finished and it was lost in
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-time
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-so my idea was to continue with the
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-project so the foundation was really
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-interesting even though i didn't like
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-some other
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-designing choices
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-um but i want to continue with projects
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-finished you cannot see emacs api add a
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-compatibility layer to use canoe max
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-packages that's the selling point right
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-so you don't have to
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-use new things
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-i like my emacs i just want to have my
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-emacs with commodities that's it and
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-also better probably a better buffer
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-implementation so the idea now that uh
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-having an imaginativity layer
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-is there improving e-max upon it right
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-you can use the e-max api or the new one
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-depending on your needs
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-you can also have that that
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-compatibility of both
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-so um i come up with cedar
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-um cedar is my attempt is a nice
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-fork
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-i will say the hug for hard fork because
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-i change um
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-a lot of things and add a lot of things
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-but it's similar still similar
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-um
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-and for this demo i'm going to use the
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-cidar and courses branch we want to test
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-it out because the other ones are a work
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-in progress so one
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-it's the mclean
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-club for implementation which is not
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-finished and doesn't run
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-and the other one is with the visual
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-that's to explain here but basically
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-and debugger
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-it's an interesting debugger similar to
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-slime
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-which is the superior lisp
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-for re max let's begin with max so it's
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-increases base also like um
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-like limb
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-but um way more easy simple
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-um i
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-write well i translate more or less this
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-list mode functionality
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-and it has similar
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-genuine max api
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-we'll see that in the demo
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-um it's usable but i work in progress
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-instead of functionality right now i'm
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-not focusing on stability yet i'm
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-focusing finish the mclean front end
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-which i'm not even halfway there
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-but i hope to finish it
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-maybe next year who knows
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-finish the compatibility layer from the
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-new max packages i seen this i think
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-this is doable i know how to do it i
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-just need time
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-maybe
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-a little bit of caffeine
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-coffee
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-so uh let's go with the demo right
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-so uh let's open terminal what's this
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-anchor base let's go to quick lisp
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-log there
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-um and let's run it
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-okay so now that we're here um it give
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-us the welcome thing this is the main
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-buffer it's like we'll say the emacs
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-buffer when you enter
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-um so we know that it's firming this is
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-not hardcoded
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-okay and now we see it's a major mode in
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-the bottom right lisp
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-it's lisp interaction and
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-this is the name of the buffer right
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-um okay so we have a couple of buffers
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-we have scratch which is the fundamental
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-mode and messages all right
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-okay so
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-let's get some interesting things first
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-uh let's open a file
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-so i think it's in
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-programming
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-a max
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-conf 2021 and let's go to c there
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-let's go to demo
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-so let's open a file so
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-um
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-phone lock is not yet
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-well it's implemented so it's there but
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-it's not active by default
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-so let's open
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-uh mx
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-and let's go lisp
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-interaction mode
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-right
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-so this when you show me here is the
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-implementation of the kill sex sex
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-express s expression command
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-which is exactly the same point by point
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-from the emacs one you can go right now
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-umax and ask
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-how is skills s expression defined this
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-and this is how you define a key so we
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-have we can say uh describe
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-symbol
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-the package will be
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-cedar and the symbol is
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-global map
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-global map
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-[Applause]
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-so
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-it's a top level global keymap
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-thank you for the information
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-um but you can also say okay uh can i
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-say okay
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-global map
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-okay i'll be giving this a key map so
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-even though i want to aim to have the
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-same
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-um api the
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-um sorry
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-uh the back thing so the back end is
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-going to be class oriented and not same
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-any max but the return expression should
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-be really similar so if we say current
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-buffer
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-it will give us the buffer it's not the
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-same in emacs but it's a buffer object
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-and we can also ask
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-about let me try to remember
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-oh there we are
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-um
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-but for
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-name we can close this and open one here
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-and we can say okay so we have this
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-thing
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-that will give us the name so uh this is
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-similar to the emacs api
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-as we saw we
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-so
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-briefly we have a lot a couple of
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-commands
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-um
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-kills expression also have a little bit
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-of
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-help kill word kill line
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-region
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-kill buffer
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-all things that we expect from emacs
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-um
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-and yeah this is there's a couple of
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-things i may show but i think this is
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-good enough i don't have enough time if
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-you want more information
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-so let's go back to it let's close the
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-buffer does it work no it doesn't work
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-okay now the head buffer no ah let's go
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-to cedar
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-okay so if you want more information
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-um
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-[Applause]
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-first of all thank you very much um
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-sorry i don't have enough time to show
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-too much too many things i will see
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-there but um
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-yeah uh
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-if you want more information you can
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-always send me an email this is my
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-webpage
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-thank you very much
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-hi my name is eduardox i'm the author of
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-an mx package called ev and this talk is
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-blocks
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-let's start by demo
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-this is a file in lua that defines these
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-here
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-then they send these lines to the rebel
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-where this line here loads this file
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-into the repo and these other lines here
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-are tests for these lines
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-there's a lot of information here so let
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-this is our file in lua
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-lua sees this thing as a as a multi-line
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-comment but we are going to see it as a
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-test block and eev mode is active and so
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-f8 does the right thing
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-uh these three lines here set up the
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-target buffer running a lower apple you
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-what if it does is that it sends the
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-rest of the line sorry it
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-so it executes the three effects here
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-apple and these lines are tests
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-test block let's now see how to create a
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-new test block we just have to run this
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-meta x e insert test block
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-or meta x euat
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-and the result depends on the major mode
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-uh let's see let's understand that that
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-by looking at the source code
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-eeit is an alias to this function here
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-and this function is just five lines of
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-major mode is full mode then this
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-function tries to call
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-a function called e insert test plot
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-test full mode if that function exists
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-then it yields an error
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-and here's an example of one such
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-function that's a function that
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-inserts a test block in haskell mode
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-and here we can see two functions like
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-javascript mode
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-uh these functions look quite similar
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-but
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-their effects look quite different
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-to make this comparison here i started
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-so here we can see that these test
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-uh this block here that selects which
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-rebel to run is also different
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-this line here that shows how that
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-tells the repo to
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-load the current file is also different
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-depending on the language
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-in some cases i had to improvise a bit
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-for example
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-uh to implement test blocks in shell
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-mode i had to use this
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-this with syntax using a rear document
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-in tcl i also had to improvise a bit and
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-in some cases i had to improvise a lot
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-for example in org mode there isn't an
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-obvious rebel to run and there isn't an
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-obvious way to load the
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-the current org file into the repo so
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-the default action of meta x eeit
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-in log mode is just to insert this thing
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-here
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-that we can use to run a
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-shell in a rebel
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-so
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-these functions are quite similar and in
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-the beginning i was writing all of them
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-by hand but then i got bored and i wrote
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-a function to help you write functions
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-like that
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-this function is called
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-find e-uit-links and it creates a
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-temporary buffer
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-and the contents of this temporary
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-buffer depends on the major mode for
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-example if the current mode is python
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-mode then running this function here
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-creates a temporary buffer that lets me
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-write the support for
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-test blocks into python mode or rewrite
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-the function that supports test blocks
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-and python mode
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-so if i'm in python mode and i run this
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-i get a temporary buffer like this
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-in which this thing is my template for
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-the function usually this thing is
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-totally wrong i have to rewrite to this
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-string
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-but the rest is right you can see python
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-mode here in the name of the function so
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-we have to edit this and save that to
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-our home
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-slash.mx and by the way these things
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-here hyperlinks to many different things
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-this elias piper link here
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-points to the source code to the section
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-in which
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-these
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-functions are defined
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-so you can see this here the function
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-that supports c
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-the function for haskell the function
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-for javascript etc
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-and that's it this is a five-minute talk
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-so i can't say much
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-if you want more information or if you
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-want to see real world examples how i
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-use test blocks etc etc see this page
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-here and i do not have time to explain
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-this by the way here
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-so that's it thanks