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-uh well good evening again uh I think I
+Good evening again. I think I
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have a little time here
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-uh to talk about macros uh is there
+to talk about macros. Is there
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-still room in our in our schedule for
-
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-that
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+still room in our
+schedule for that,
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-or should I just kind of jump to some of
+or should I just jump to some of
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-my thoughts on the day
+my thoughts on the day?
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-you are now unmuted um pretty sure we
+([Amin:] Pretty sure we
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-have some time
+have some time.)
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-all right great yeah go for it well I'll
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+[Corwin:] All right. Great.
+([Amin:] Yeah, go for it.)
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-just drive into my pre
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+Well, I'll just drive into my
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-prepared thing to hear that yeah
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+prepared thing here then.
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-actually you're right on time so
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+(Amin: yeah, actually, you're
+right on time, so...)
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-oh what an amazing thing I I just uh
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+[Corwin:] oh what an amazing thing.
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-you know I have been trying to do what I
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+I just... You know, I have been
+trying to do what I...
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-I've got a big thank you planet to get
+I've got a big thank you planned
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-at the end but let me just say I uh
+at the end, but let me just say,
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-it's it's been really cool to watch the
+it's been really cool to watch the
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-way that people work together
-
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-absolutely it's this whole event today
+way that people work together.
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-has been
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+([Amin:] Absolutely. It's...
+This whole event today has been
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-nothing but awesome and uh no less like
+nothing but awesome, and
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no little part thanks to all of the help
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-from all of you guys
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+from all of you guys and everyone.
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-and um everyone oh yeah it's awesome
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+Yeah, it's awesome.
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-um yeah with that all just um shut up
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+With that, I'll just shut up
+for now.
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-for now and uh
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+Take it away, Corwin.)
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-take it away corwin you know how to make
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+[Corwin:] Who knows how to make
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-make that the default and good old cemex
+make that the default in good old smex?
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-all right so I'm gonna try to continue
+All right. So I'm gonna try to continue
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-my theme from the previous talk I'm a
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+my theme from the previous talk.
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-longtime Emacs user but I'm
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+I'm a longtime Emacs user,
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-a pretty new person
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+but I'm a pretty new person
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-to trying to really understand what's
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+to trying to really understand
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-going on within Emacs and make
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+what's going on within Emacs and make
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-my customizations to it uh simple for
+my customizations to it--simple for
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-what I tend to just think of will work
-
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-and maybe that's that's that's a nice
+what I tend to just think of will work.
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-bow to put on that earlier talk
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+And maybe that's a nice bow
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-so uh whoops
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+to put on that earlier talk.
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-uh let's see here now it's ctrl x
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+Let's see here now. It's C-x M-i.
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-alt I that's right
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+That's right.
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-and let's try that again okay good
-
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-so demoing is fun uh but I
-
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-will save most of that for tomorrow
+And let's try that again. Okay, good.
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-where my
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+So demoing is fun,
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-dear friend and co-collaborator in
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+but I will save most of that
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-bringing you the dungeon mode project
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+for tomorrow where my
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-which is uh sort of
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+dear friend and co-collaborator
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-the exciting thing that we we hope
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+in bringing you the dungeon-mode project,
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-you'll be interested in
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+which is sort of the exciting thing
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-um I think gets a little more of a
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+that we hope you'll be interested in,
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-reveal
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+gets a little more of a reveal.
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-uh tonight I'll just uh close saying
+Tonight, I'll just close saying
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-um a few things about the process of
+a few things about the process of
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making it and continuing my theme of
+community.
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-community
-
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-uh first of all a specific and upfront
-
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+First of all, a specific and upfront
shout out
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-to tv's wasa masa who
+to tv's wasamasa who
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-um absolutely shaped and guided this
-
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-this program I I may have taken out a
+absolutely shaped and guided this
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-slide with your name on it but
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+this program. I may have taken out
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-thank you um
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+a slide with your name on it,
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-so when we think about Emacs macros and
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+but thank you.
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-the
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+So when we think about Emacs macros
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-power that they give us
-
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-I think about them the the
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+and the power that they give us,
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-you know I think about them as a really
+I think about them as a really
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-deep rabbit hole they confuse
+deep rabbit hole. They confuse
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-people a lot and so to try to center
+people a lot. And so, to try to center
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-myself on that I remember first that
-
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-they're
+myself on that, I remember first that
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-they're going to be talking to us about
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+they're going to be talking to us
+about code.
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-code
-
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-uh excuse me I realize I hadn't set my
-
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-timer
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+Excuse me, I realize I hadn't
+set my timer.
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-here we are
+Here we are.
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-um so a simple macro syntax is going to
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+So a simple macro syntax is
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-generate
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+going to generate
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something that is implicitly confusing
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-to somebody that knows the syntax of
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+to somebody that knows the syntax
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-emax lisp
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+of Emacs Lisp well.
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-well we see something like this and a
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+We see something like this
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-veteran I
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+and a veteran eye says
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-says that x isn't quoted what's going on
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+"That x isn't quoted. What's going on?"
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-but it can be hard to miss
+but it can be hard to miss.
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-um a lot of the functions as we'll talk
-
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-about in a moment that are built into
+A lot of the functions (as we'll talk
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-Emacs
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+about in a moment) that are built
+into Emacs
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-really are macros so a lot of Emacs
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+really are macros, so a lot of
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-features work this way
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+Emacs features work this way.
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-it might be scary but we have to look at
+It might be scary, but we have to look at
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it closely if we really want to get
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-friendly with Emacs
+friendly with Emacs.
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-um let's just jump right into deaf macro
+Let's just jump right into defmacro,
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-which is which is our key entry point
+which is our key entry point.
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-and the
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+The notes from this talk
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-notes from this talk include the link um
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+include the link to that,
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-to that uh which which definitely
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+which... Definitely
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-uh read through a couple of times and
+read through a couple of times.
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-that may take you through
+That may take you through
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-into the cldf macro which adds
+into the cl-def macro, which adds
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-the common list lisp extensions
+the Common Lisp extensions.
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-and uh definitely
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+Definitely challenging.
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-uh challenging uh I've struggled there
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+I've struggled there,
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-as we'll take a look at in
+as we'll take a look at
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-in a moment um
+in a moment.
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-so I haven't played too much with cl
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+So I haven't played too much with
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-maclet perhaps success in
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+cl-maclet. Perhaps success in
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-in that uh keyword space and figuring
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+in that keyword space
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-out what the right balance is there
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+and figuring out what
+the right balance is there
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-what will give me the confidence to try
+will give me the confidence to try
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-some more lexical
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+some more lexical macros.
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-uh macros
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+Let me also briefly introduce
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-let me also briefly introduce the comma
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+the comma (,) and back quote (`).
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-and back quote if you
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+If you have allowed your eyes
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-have uh allowed your eyes to cross when
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+to cross when you see these,
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-you see these and that's not
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+that's not a shameful,
+shameful thing.
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-uh a shameful shameful thing it's
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+It's confusing, and we should be
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-confusing and we should be
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+alerting each other
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-alerting each other when we when we
-
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-stick macros in
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+when we stick macros in,
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-often by putting them in different
+often by putting them in
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-different library spaces for complicated
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+different library spaces
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-projects
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+for complicated projects,
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-or um otherwise sort of warning people
+or otherwise warning people
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-that this is not an interactive function
+that this is not an interactive function,
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-if you get away with using it like one
-
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-um
+even if you get away
+with using it like one.
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-to watch your back
+Watch your back.
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-the uh
-
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-the manual itself talks about macros
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+The manual itself talks about macros
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-as being a way of evaluating
-
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-you know as as being um
+as being a way of evaluating,
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-an evaluator that will take our amex
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+as being an evaluator that will take
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-lisp expression
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+our Emacs Lisp expression
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-and the set of forms that kind of that
+and the set of forms that
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-will feed to it our code
-
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-[Music]
-
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-but it also provides us with this
+will feed to it our code,
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-concept of an
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+but it also provides us with
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-environment and and and that's really
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+this concept of an environment.
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-where the power
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+That's really where the power
+comes in.
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-comes in through that we can have
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+Through that, we can have
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lexical variables and
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-um think about uh bring in some of the
+think about--bring in some of the
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capabilities that
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-um can be harder to reach with
+can be harder to reach with
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-a a a pure declarative statement that
+a pure declarative statement that
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-doesn't allow
-
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-for uh
-
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-top level
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+doesn't allow for top level
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-um asynchronous asynchronicity
+asynchronous... Asynchronicity...
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-uh I'm gonna basically
-
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-[Music]
+I'm gonna basically
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-ignore the bike compilation phase for
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+ignore the byte-compilation phase
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-this talk
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+for this talk
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-uh in order to have any prayer of
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+in order to have any prayer
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-getting through it in the
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+of getting through it in the
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-remaining nine or 11 minutes or whatever
+remaining 9 or 11 minutes or whatever.
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-uh but
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+But suffice to say,
+that's a scary space,
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-suffice it to say it that's a scary
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+and that's really
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-space and that's that's that's really
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+the thing that you want to
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-the thing that you want to start
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+start learning about
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-learning about as you think about taking
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+as you think about
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-taking macros on uh in earnest
+taking macros on in earnest.
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-the um coming back to the comma syntax
+Coming back to the comma syntax,
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-then
-
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-having having given ourselves sort of a
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+then, having given ourselves a
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-working definition for the Emacs lisp
+working definition for the Emacs Lisp
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-runtime environment then we can say that
+runtime environment, then we can say that
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macros are going to
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-inject code back into that stream
+inject code back into that stream,
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-whereas back quote is going to
+whereas backquote (`)
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-uh going to give code back
+is going to give code back.
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-to the to the stream or interject sorry
+to the stream--or interject, sorry,
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-it's going to interject uh back into the
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+it's going to interject
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-stream
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+back into the stream.
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-uh sort of uh an exclamatory excuse me
-
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-I'd like to uh
+Sort of an exclamatory "Excuse me,
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-have a value here and we can take that
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+I'd like to have a value here."
+We can take that value
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-value from the environment as it exists
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+from the environment as it exists
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-when our macro is evaluated
+when our macro is evaluated.
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-back quote on the other hand takes the
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+Backquote, on the other hand,
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-result
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+takes the result from that
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-from that and uh
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+and returns it back to the stream
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-and returns it back to the stream for
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+for evaluation at the
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-evaluation at the processing level that
-
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-invoked us
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+processing level that invoked us.
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-so in other words perhaps back up to
+So in other words, perhaps back up to
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-a top level eval expression where our
+a top-level eval expression where our
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-macro is invoked
-
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-uh wrong way so um
+macro is invoked.
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-with what's I'm going to briefly bring
+I'm going to briefly bring
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you back to the game
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-for just a moment
-
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-um I won't
+for just a moment.
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-I won't has I won't linger on this slide
-
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-but but
+I won't linger on this slide,
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-briefly uh this is a
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+but briefly: this is a
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-roll paper role-playing pen
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+role-playing, pen and pencil,
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-and pencil uh physical dice
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+physical dice tradition
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-tradition that dates back a long time
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+that dates back a long time
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-from a technology perspective
+from a technology perspective.
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-it's it's old in the same way that uh
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+It's old in the same way
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-other tools uh that I like are
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+that other tools that I like
+are old.
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-old
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+It's simple to understand.
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-uh it's simple to understand and I can
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+I can communicate a lot with it
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-communicate a lot with it with a simple
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+with a simple amount of typing
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-amount of you know typing or
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+or scribbling something
+on a piece of paper.
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-scribbling something on a piece of paper
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+It has a complicated problem space
+of its own.
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-it has a complicated problem space um
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+Again, I don't want to
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-of its own again I don't want to
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+get too much into the game here,
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-get too much into the game here but
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+but in this talk,
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-uh in this in this talk for the last
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+for the last five minutes,
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-five minutes I'll focus
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+I'll focus on the process
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-on the process that we took to to
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+that we took to
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-automate uh getting data out of the org
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+automate getting data out of
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-mode tables which
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+the Org Mode tables
+which eventually
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-eventually as we'll talk about more
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+(as we'll talk about more
+tomorrow)
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-tomorrow are used to draw
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+are used to draw
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-game maps and other things
+game maps and other things.
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-um here I talk about kind of why we did
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+Here I talk about why we did
+that.
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-that I'm going to skip briefly past that
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+I'm going to skip briefly past that,
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-and say instead that at a high level
+and say instead that at a high level,
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-it's it's symbolic informatics we're
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+it's symbolic informatics.
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-giving a symbolic name
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+We're giving a symbolic name
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-to a tile set and then
-
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-uh
+to a tile set,
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and then assigning that tile set some
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-some characteristics like physical
-
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-speeds
+00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:04.840
+some characteristics
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-screen space a variable that we might
+00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:06.820
+like physical speeds, screen space
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-want to swap in
+00:10:06.820 --> 00:10:08.399
+(a variable that we might
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-and so forth uh and
+00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:12.800
+want to swap in), and so forth.
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-you know our project rests heavily on on
-
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-org mode and
+You know, our project rests heavily on
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-it's it's fundamental capabilities
+00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:21.040
+Org Mode and its
+fundamental capabilities.
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-so the the code I'm going to show here
-
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-is
-
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-uh is
+The code I'm going to show here
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-is focused around sort of a a sticky
+is focused around a sticky
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-problem space in in the information
+00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:32.380
+problem space in
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-technology and I'm I'm a professional
+00:10:32.380 --> 00:10:33.861
+information technology.
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-uh uh software engineer turned uh
+00:10:33.861 --> 00:10:38.240
+I'm a professional software engineer
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-technology architect I support
+00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:40.362
+turned technology architect.
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-the websites for a recognizable
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+I support the websites for
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-financial services brand that I don't
+00:10:43.495 --> 00:10:46.533
+a recognizable financial services brand
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-identify just so I don't accidentally
+00:10:46.533 --> 00:10:48.500
+that I don't identify
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-end up
+00:10:48.500 --> 00:10:50.720
+just so I don't accidentally end up
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-uh inadvertently misrepresenting my firm
-
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-in some financial
-
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-uh perspective if I let some other
-
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-companies slip at certain let some other
-
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-companies slip
+inadvertently misrepresenting my firm
-00:11:01.760 --> 00:11:06.560
-name slip or my own it's certainly no
+00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:56.456
+in some financial perspective
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-representation of an opinion other than
+00:10:56.456 --> 00:10:57.760
+if I let some other
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-my own
+00:10:57.760 --> 00:11:03.300
+companies' name slip, or my own.
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-the um
+00:11:03.300 --> 00:11:07.700
+It's certainly no representation
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-[Music]
+00:11:07.700 --> 00:11:11.279
+of an opinion other than my own.
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-so etl has to do with moving data around
+So ETL has to do with moving data around.
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-we we have the idea of of
+We have the idea of
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a pipeline where we'll be able to verify
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-certain assumptions not
+certain assumptions,
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-nominally about data quality but it
+00:11:30.560 --> 00:11:32.106
+nominally about data quality,
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-could be about anything
+00:11:32.106 --> 00:11:33.600
+but it could be about anything.
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-before the pipeline starts okay we've
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+Before the pipeline starts, okay,
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-got a state where we think it should
+00:11:35.630 --> 00:11:36.886
+we've got a state where we think
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-work if we run it
+00:11:36.886 --> 00:11:38.560
+it should work if we run it.
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-we have uh some extraction where we'll
+We have some extraction where we'll
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-get our sources and we may have the the
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+get our sources, and we may have
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-opportunity to
+00:11:43.973 --> 00:11:45.040
+the opportunity to
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-uh make some assertions there and in the
+00:11:45.040 --> 00:11:47.327
+make some assertions there.
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-transform
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+In the transform stage,
+as well as the load,
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-stage as well as the load things get a
-
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-little dicer
+00:11:50.510 --> 00:11:52.720
+things get a little dicer,
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to the point where we come out of the
@@ -837,770 +748,699 @@ to the point where we come out of the
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load stage and we should have some
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-really solid assertions again that we
+00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:56.676
+really solid assertions again
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-can even go back and compare to the
+00:11:56.676 --> 00:11:57.724
+that we can even go back
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-extract stage
+00:11:57.724 --> 00:11:59.680
+and compare to the extract stage.
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-and from this we have the rudimentaries
+From this, we have the rudimentaries
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-of a data quality practice
+of a data quality practice.
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-uh in this case we have a number of org
+00:12:04.959 --> 00:12:08.120
+In this case, we have a number of
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-mode files that will all
+00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:09.360
+Org Mode files that will all
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be distributed across a
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-number of players uh computers
+number of players' computers,
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so we might not want to update every
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-part of every buffer
+part of every buffer.
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-I think it's a complicated problem space
+I think it's a complicated problem space.
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-and so we tried to take
+So we tried to take
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a long-term view of
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-the solution that we needed um so I'll
-
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-go ahead
+00:12:27.839 --> 00:12:30.321
+the solution that we needed.
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-and open up the fun function
+00:12:30.321 --> 00:12:32.160
+So I'll go ahead
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-that well let's let's actually start
+00:12:32.160 --> 00:12:36.279
+and open up the function
+that...
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-with the one that's pretty easy to read
+00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:39.020
+Let's actually start with the one
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-and uh I'm gonna go ahead and just crank
+00:12:39.020 --> 00:12:41.680
+that's pretty easy to read.
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-it up huge
+00:12:41.680 --> 00:12:46.800
+I'm gonna go ahead and
+just crank it up huge,
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in case anybody's watching in 480.
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-um so this this program is not
-
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-a work of art it's a simple
+00:12:51.680 --> 00:12:57.733
+This program is not a work of art
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-implementation of the idea that a list
+00:12:57.733 --> 00:13:01.120
+It's a simple implementation
+of the idea that
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-an a list of functions that return
+00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.000
+an alist of functions
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-maybe some data maybe some data and an
+00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:06.633
+that return maybe some data,
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-entry back into that a list
+00:13:06.633 --> 00:13:10.399
+maybe some data and an entry
+back into that alist,
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-um can be done quite extensively with
+can be done quite extensively with
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-very few lines of code
+very few lines of code.
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-neither is it an especially tight or
+00:13:15.680 --> 00:13:17.586
+Neither is it an especially tight
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-thrifty implementation
+00:13:17.586 --> 00:13:19.600
+or thrifty implementation.
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-it's just trying to get the job done
-
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-with a doc
-
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-statement for everything at the heart
+It's just trying to get the job done
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-um we see a call to this macro called dm
+00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:25.056
+with a doc statement for everything.
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-coalesce hash and that's what I'd like
+00:13:25.056 --> 00:13:28.595
+At the heart, we see a call to
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-to focus in on you can see I think
+00:13:28.595 --> 00:13:32.067
+this macro called dm-coalesce-hash,
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-that something on unpleasant is
+00:13:32.067 --> 00:13:33.714
+and that's what I'd like
+to focus in on.
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-happening here
+00:13:33.714 --> 00:13:35.360
+You can see... I think
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-I've got an eval in um
+00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:38.800
+that something unpleasant is
+happening here.
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-what is I will share a a
+00:13:38.800 --> 00:13:43.991
+I've got an eval in what is...
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-fairly central function that that that
+00:13:43.991 --> 00:13:49.519
+I will share a fairly central function
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-that
+00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:52.160
+that those implementing
+this ETL pattern are
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-those implementing this etl pattern are
+00:13:52.160 --> 00:13:54.933
+welcome to derive from.
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-welcome to
+00:13:54.933 --> 00:13:57.680
+That is, this is a
+default transform
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-derive from that is this is a default
-
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-transform
-
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-that you can get when loading certain
-
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-kinds of
+00:13:57.680 --> 00:14:00.959
+that you can get when loading
+certain kinds of
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-uh orgmo tables that have been uh
+org-mode tables that have been
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-properly adorned and again we'll get
+properly adorned. Again, we'll get
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-into that all tomorrow
+into that all tomorrow.
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-so keep an eye on time couple minutes
+00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.900
+So, keeping an eye on time.
+Couple minutes left.
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-left let's look at the macro itself and
+00:14:11.900 --> 00:14:13.760
+Let's look at the macro itself.
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-I have a slide on this but let's go
+00:14:13.760 --> 00:14:15.000
+I have a slide on this,
-00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:24.639
-ahead and risk getting off page
+00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:24.639
+but let's go ahead
+and risk getting off page.
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-oh boy here we go so this is my
+Oh boy. Here we go. So this is my
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-utilities bucket
+utilities bucket.
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-it has such basic features as give me a
+It has such basic features as "give me a
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-hash table with some defaults I'll think
+hash table with some defaults, I'll think
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-about that later
+about that later,"
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-and
-
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-and add to list um a special version
+00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:44.720
+and "add to list," a special version
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that enables us to be a little cavalier
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-in experimenting with a-list versus
+in experimenting with alist versus
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-hashes versus p
+00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:50.967
+hashes versus plists.
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-lists we've made a right mess for
+00:14:50.967 --> 00:14:53.178
+We've made a right mess for
+ourselves
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-ourselves in the proof of concept area
+00:14:53.178 --> 00:14:54.399
+in the proof of concept area,
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-and it's ripe
+00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.433
+and it's ripe for someone to write a
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-for someone to write a white paper about
+00:14:57.433 --> 00:14:58.560
+whitepaper about
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-when to prefer these things
-
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-and fix
+when to prefer these things.
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-the merge a list uh
+The merge alist...
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-same work here let's get let's get down
+00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:12.959
+Same work here.
+Let's get down to business.
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-to business
+00:15:12.959 --> 00:15:14.667
+This function has quite a...
-00:15:12.959 --> 00:15:16.000
-this function has quite a this a macro
+00:15:14.667 --> 00:15:17.467
+This macro has quite a doc string.
-00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.560
-has quite a doc string and I think I
+00:15:17.467 --> 00:15:20.720
+I think I mentioned earlier
+that I got myself into
-00:15:18.560 --> 00:15:20.720
-mentioned earlier that I got myself into
+00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:22.088
+trouble with the keyword properties.
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-trouble with the keyword properties you
+00:15:22.088 --> 00:15:23.519
+You can see that we have
-00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:23.519
-can see that we have
+00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:27.359
+not only quite a number of them,
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-not only quite a number of them but
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+but a lot of default values,
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-a lot of a lot of default values many of
+00:15:31.155 --> 00:15:35.446
+many of which may be relying on
-00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:32.880
-which
+00:15:35.446 --> 00:15:37.264
+the values that are passed in here.
-00:15:32.880 --> 00:15:36.000
-may be relying on the
-
-00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.680
-values that are passed in here this is
-
-00:15:37.680 --> 00:15:40.000
-complicated and as it turns out
+00:15:37.264 --> 00:15:40.000
+This is complicated. As it turns out,
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-um I wasn't brave enough in most cases
+I wasn't brave enough in most cases
-00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.079
-to try to write a lambda that could
+00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.485
+to try to write a lambda
-00:15:46.079 --> 00:15:47.279
-understand and
+00:15:45.485 --> 00:15:47.279
+that could understand and
-00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.680
-replace uh its own local variable I just
+00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.300
+replace its own local variable.
-00:15:49.680 --> 00:15:50.399
-didn't
+00:15:49.300 --> 00:15:50.399
+I just didn't...
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-it didn't save me enough time this was
-
-00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:54.800
-really easy
+It didn't save me enough time. This was
-00:15:54.800 --> 00:15:56.800
-to read and write and understand as I
+00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:56.532
+really easy to read and write and
+understand
-00:15:56.800 --> 00:15:58.240
-thought through my problem
+00:15:56.532 --> 00:15:58.240
+as I thought through my problem,
-00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:01.440
-but now as I use it I I've lost a little
+00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.000
+but now, as I use it,
-00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:03.360
-ground maybe with this and I'm not even
+00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:02.486
+I've lost a little ground with
+this.
-00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:04.079
-sure
+00:16:02.486 --> 00:16:04.079
+I'm not even sure
-00:16:04.079 --> 00:16:07.279
-I like what I got from uh the many
+00:16:04.079 --> 00:16:06.453
+I like what I got from
-00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:08.079
-keyword
+00:16:06.453 --> 00:16:09.341
+the many keyword properties
+when it...
-00:16:08.079 --> 00:16:10.560
-properties when it and we can look
-
-00:16:10.560 --> 00:16:11.920
-perhaps if we have
+00:16:09.341 --> 00:16:11.920
+And we can look, perhaps if we have
00:16:11.920 --> 00:16:17.340
-the time at what that looks like in uh
-
-00:16:17.340 --> 00:16:19.920
-[Music]
+the time, at what that looks like in
00:16:19.920 --> 00:16:22.720
-oh all right I have to separately
+Oh, all right, I have to separately
00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:24.480
-dismiss and restart that
+dismiss and restart that.
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-um so that so that's just about my time
+So that's just about my time.
00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:29.600
-uh and being respectful of that I want
+Being respectful of that, I want
00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:31.920
to invite presenters to just jump in at
00:16:31.920 --> 00:16:35.519
-any of the many large pauses I leave
+any of the many large pauses I leave.
00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:38.079
-uh as I'll just leave up the doc string
+I'll just leave up the doc string
00:16:38.079 --> 00:16:40.160
for a moment and maybe split the screen
00:16:40.160 --> 00:16:45.199
-and pull open an item
+and pull open an item.
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-you are now unmuted uh thank you very
+([Amin]: Thank you very
00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:50.720
-much for your talk corwin
+much for your talk, Corwin.
00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:53.839
-um I think you still have like uh
+I think you still have
-00:16:53.839 --> 00:16:55.279
-maybe three or four more minutes if you
+00:16:53.839 --> 00:16:55.027
+maybe three or four more minutes,
-00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:57.680
-want to quickly wrap up
+00:16:55.027 --> 00:16:57.680
+if you want to quickly wrap up.)
-00:16:57.680 --> 00:17:01.040
-okay so three or four more minutes I can
+00:16:57.680 --> 00:17:00.644
+[Corwin:] Okay, so three or four
+more minutes
-00:17:01.040 --> 00:17:02.160
-easily spend
-
-00:17:02.160 --> 00:17:05.439
-on thank yous
+00:17:00.644 --> 00:17:05.439
+I can easily spend on thank yous.
00:17:05.439 --> 00:17:07.280
I might switch to that if there aren't
00:17:07.280 --> 00:17:08.270
-questions on the path
-
-00:17:08.270 --> 00:17:10.160
-[Music]
+questions on the pad.
00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.559
-um would you like me to pull up the pad
+([Amin:] Would you like me to pull up the pad,
00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:14.079
-or are you looking at it
+or are you looking at it?)
-00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.199
-I am I bookmarked it I am
+00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:16.777
+[Corwin:] I am. I bookmarked it.
-00:17:17.199 --> 00:17:30.840
-pulling the tab and I'll bring it in
+00:17:16.777 --> 00:17:30.840
+I am pulling the tab
+and I'll bring it in.
-00:17:30.840 --> 00:17:34.960
-okay
-
-00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:38.799
-all right this is the wrong ether pad
+00:17:30.840 --> 00:17:38.799
+Okay. All right. This is the wrong
+Etherpad.
00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:44.480
-thanks for the link
-
-00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:48.000
-all right um so I think I'm looking for
+Thanks for the link.
-00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:54.880
-macros
+00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:54.880
+All right. So I think I'm
+looking for macros.
-00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:58.400
-uh okay key message sure so the
+00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:57.630
+Okay. Key message. Sure.
-00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:01.679
-the key message is that it's um it's a
+00:17:57.630 --> 00:18:01.679
+So, the key message is that it's
00:18:01.679 --> 00:18:02.960
-jungle out there
+a jungle out there.
-00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.240
-macros along with any other design can
+00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.912
+Macros, along with any other design,
-00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:08.559
-leave you in a position
+00:18:05.912 --> 00:18:08.559
+can leave you in a position
00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.919
-where you have a nice api and I can show
+where you have a nice API. I can show
00:18:11.919 --> 00:18:13.600
-you other examples you can find them in
+you other examples (you can find them in
00:18:13.600 --> 00:18:14.960
-the dungeon mode source
+the dungeon-mode source)
00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:18.480
-of many many other places where I use
+of many, many other places where I use
-00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.600
-this exact same formula quickly
+00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.820
+this exact same formula,
-00:18:21.600 --> 00:18:23.840
-sketching out how a character sheet
+00:18:20.820 --> 00:18:23.840
+quickly sketching out
+how a character sheet
-00:18:23.840 --> 00:18:26.960
-or another big data set needs to
+00:18:23.840 --> 00:18:26.180
+or another big data set
-00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:28.480
-needs to figure out what tables are
+00:18:26.180 --> 00:18:28.480
+needs to figure out
+what tables are
-00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:29.600
-going to be interesting from the
+00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:29.320
+going to be interesting
-00:18:29.600 --> 00:18:30.720
-collection of files
+00:18:29.320 --> 00:18:30.720
+from the collection of files,
-00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:34.400
-and then load up the tile set and
+00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:33.967
+and then load up the tile set,
-00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:38.880
-the uh layout file from that
+00:18:33.967 --> 00:18:38.880
+and the layout file from that.
-00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:41.600
-and I mean it works this the project is
+00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:40.542
+And I mean, it works.
-00:18:41.600 --> 00:18:43.280
-moving forward with this I have the
+00:18:40.542 --> 00:18:42.677
+The project is moving forward
+with this.
-00:18:43.280 --> 00:18:44.799
-flexibility that I need
+00:18:42.677 --> 00:18:44.799
+I have the flexibility that I need.
-00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:46.720
-but here I am evaling my own code to
+00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:46.559
+But here I am evaling my own code
-00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:48.640
-make darn sure even if I get by
+00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:48.640
+to make darn sure even if I get
00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:52.400
-by compiled uh this macro doesn't uh
+byte-compiled, this macro
00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.440
does get evaluated in the user's real
-00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.160
-run time clearly a design fail so that
+00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:57.684
+run time. Clearly a design fail.
-00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:58.880
-would be
+00:18:57.684 --> 00:18:58.890
+So that would be...
-00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:00.880
-the key point of my talk is is to
+00:18:58.890 --> 00:19:00.880
+The key point of my talk is to
-00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:02.400
-present this design
-
-00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:05.600
-fail and uh thank
+00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:05.600
+present this design fail and
00:19:05.600 --> 00:19:08.320
-um thank the community but especially
-
-00:19:08.320 --> 00:19:09.520
-wasa masa
-
-00:19:09.520 --> 00:19:12.160
-for for some patience and let me add at
+thank the community, but especially
-00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:13.280
-this moment that
+00:19:08.320 --> 00:19:10.942
+wasamasa for some patience.
-00:19:13.280 --> 00:19:15.200
-uh he was so frustrated with me they
+00:19:10.942 --> 00:19:13.280
+Let me add at this moment that
-00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:16.799
-were sort of frustrated with me I think
+00:19:13.280 --> 00:19:13.333
+he was so frustrated with me.
-00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:17.360
-I
+00:19:13.333 --> 00:19:17.115
+They were sort of frustrated with me
-00:19:17.360 --> 00:19:20.400
-didn't qualify pronouns um
+00:19:17.115 --> 00:19:20.400
+(I think I didn't qualify pronouns)
-00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:24.240
-with um
+00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.287
+with doing this. The first...
-00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.640
-with doing this the the first the this
+00:19:26.287 --> 00:19:27.985
+This was one of our first
+interactions,
-00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:28.160
-was one of our first interactions and
-
-00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:29.919
-the feedback was
+00:19:27.985 --> 00:19:29.919
+and the feedback was,
00:19:29.919 --> 00:19:34.240
-why is this a macro full stop
+"Why is this a macro. Full stop."
00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:36.640
-and uh that's a great message actually
+And that's a great message, actually.
-00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:38.320
-and I and I hope that
+00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:39.520
+I hope that maybe this
+can encourage
-00:19:38.320 --> 00:19:40.160
-uh maybe this can encourage further
+00:19:39.520 --> 00:19:42.720
+further talks across the subject about,
-00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.720
-talks across the subject about
+00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:43.808
+you know, "Hey, wait a minute,
-00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:44.160
-you know hey wait a minute macros are
+00:19:43.808 --> 00:19:45.549
+macros are really fantastic,"
-00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:46.720
-really fantastic as I hope I made
+00:19:45.549 --> 00:19:47.018
+as I hope I made clear.
-00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:48.559
-clear you can do a tremendous amount
+00:19:47.018 --> 00:19:48.559
+You can do a tremendous amount
00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.039
-about uh with them and we rely on them
-
-00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:52.320
-for
+with them, and we rely on them
-00:19:52.320 --> 00:19:55.200
-almost all the fun goodies um from you
+00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:55.200
+for almost all the fun goodies,
-00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:56.480
-know defund
+00:19:55.200 --> 00:20:02.159
+from defun, setq...
-00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:02.159
-secu
+00:20:02.159 --> 00:20:04.639
+I want to get to my thank yous.
-00:20:02.159 --> 00:20:04.960
-um I want to get to my my thank yous let
-
-00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:05.440
-me just
-
-00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:18.840
-peek back at the pad
-
-00:20:18.840 --> 00:20:20.000
-oh
+00:20:04.639 --> 00:20:18.840
+Let me just peek back at the pad.
00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:22.080
-well that was actually a scratch buffer
-
-00:20:22.080 --> 00:20:23.760
-so I'll have to sort of read it cold off
+Well, that was actually a scratch buffer,
-00:20:23.760 --> 00:20:24.720
-my notes
-
-00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:27.919
-um
+00:20:22.080 --> 00:20:24.720
+so I'll have to read it cold off
+my notes.
00:20:27.919 --> 00:20:30.320
-but also but I'll switch to I'll also
+But I'll switch to... I'll also...
00:20:30.320 --> 00:20:31.600
-I'll say a couple of thank yous if you
+I'll say a couple of thank-yous if you
00:20:31.600 --> 00:20:34.320
-don't mind
+don't mind, Amin.
00:20:34.320 --> 00:20:36.080
-in addition to the big thank you that I
-
-00:20:36.080 --> 00:20:38.400
-hope was implied by my shout out to wasa
+In addition to the big thank you that I
-00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:39.360
-masa
+00:20:36.080 --> 00:20:39.360
+hope was implied by my shout out
+to wasamasa,
00:20:39.360 --> 00:20:42.720
-um I also want to thank you amen for
+I also want to thank you, Amin, for
00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:46.640
-um your kindness in extending
+your kindness in extending
00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:51.360
-to the project as well as to me the
+to the project as well as to me, the
00:20:51.360 --> 00:20:54.320
-the chance to present here and and and
-
-00:20:54.320 --> 00:20:55.440
-you've you've also
+the chance to present here.
-00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:56.799
-just done a lot of great stuff for our
+00:20:54.320 --> 00:20:56.358
+You've also done a lot of great stuff
-00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:59.360
-project thank you very much for that and
+00:20:56.358 --> 00:20:59.360
+for our project. Thank you very much for
+that.
-00:20:59.360 --> 00:21:13.120
-sasha
+00:20:59.360 --> 00:21:03.400
+Sacha Chua (I'll get there),
-00:21:13.120 --> 00:21:15.919
-I'll get there um thank you so much for
+00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:15.919
+thank you so much for
00:21:15.919 --> 00:21:17.200
the inspiration that you are to our
00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:18.320
-whole community
+whole community.
00:21:18.320 --> 00:21:22.400
I also want to thank the presenters
00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:25.600
-um for just being so flexible and
+for just being so flexible and
00:21:25.600 --> 00:21:27.600
-uh nagging back through the whole thing
+nagging back through the whole thing,
00:21:27.600 --> 00:21:29.120
-and especially to leo
-
-00:21:29.120 --> 00:21:30.960
-who has done so much to drive the show
-
-00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:32.159
-today
+and especially to Leo
-00:21:32.159 --> 00:21:35.520
-um I
+00:21:29.120 --> 00:21:32.159
+who has done so much to
+drive the show today.
-00:21:35.520 --> 00:21:37.840
-this is a fractious tent at times and
+00:21:32.159 --> 00:21:37.242
+This is a fractious tent at times,
-00:21:37.840 --> 00:21:38.960
-sometimes
+00:21:37.242 --> 00:21:39.800
+and sometimes it is indeed
-00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:41.360
-it is indeed a little bit of a circus
+00:21:39.800 --> 00:21:41.360
+a little bit of a circus,
-00:21:41.360 --> 00:21:43.039
-but I
+00:21:41.360 --> 00:21:44.746
+but I am learning so much so fast.
-00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:45.520
-am learning so much so fast I'm just
+00:21:44.746 --> 00:21:46.880
+I'm just inspired by how much
-00:21:45.520 --> 00:21:46.880
-inspired by how much
+00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:49.333
+Emacs can teach us.
-00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:50.320
-Emacs can teach us thank you
+00:21:49.333 --> 00:21:52.901
+([Amin:] thank you, Corwin,
+for your kind words
-00:21:50.320 --> 00:21:53.120
-uh corbin for your kind words and you
-
-00:21:53.120 --> 00:21:54.960
-know about me of course but all about
+00:21:52.901 --> 00:21:54.960
+about me, of course,
00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:56.000
-you know all of us
+about all of us
-00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:59.760
-and the conference and you know indeed
+00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.000
+and the conference...
-00:21:59.760 --> 00:22:02.400
-thanks to everyone who's helped uh
+00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:02.400
+Indeed, thanks to everyone who's helped,
00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:04.159
-including the speakers of course
+including the speakers, of course,
00:22:04.159 --> 00:22:05.840
-without whom you know a maxcom really
+without whom EmacsConf really
00:22:05.840 --> 00:22:08.960
-wouldn't have been a EmacsConf
+wouldn't have been a EmacsConf.
00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:10.640
-and you know it's been a pleasure
-
-00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:12.080
-knowing you and working with
+It's been a pleasure
-00:22:12.080 --> 00:22:15.520
-you um I guess um from afar for the most
+00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:12.366
+knowing you and
+working with you,
-00:22:15.520 --> 00:22:17.360
-part on dungeon mode like helping
+00:22:12.366 --> 00:22:15.743
+from afar for the most part
-00:22:17.360 --> 00:22:18.960
-helping with like small things here and
+00:22:15.743 --> 00:22:17.360
+on dungeon-mode,
-00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:20.720
-there but um
+00:22:17.360 --> 00:22:19.937
+helping with small things
+here and there
-00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:22.320
-yeah it's been my pleasure and it's
+00:22:19.937 --> 00:22:21.796
+but yeah, it's been my pleasure,
-00:22:22.320 --> 00:22:23.840
-great to have you and
+00:22:21.796 --> 00:22:23.840
+and it's great to have you and
-00:22:23.840 --> 00:22:25.840
-um everyone else you know part of the
+00:22:23.840 --> 00:22:26.582
+everyone else part of the
+community,
-00:22:25.840 --> 00:22:26.880
-community and
+00:22:26.582 --> 00:22:29.180
+and for me to be part of the
+community.
-00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:29.440
-for me to be part of the community it's
-
-00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:30.559
-been a lot of fun
+00:22:29.180 --> 00:22:30.559
+It's been a lot of fun.
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-thank you
-
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-it's it's it's it's an honor and I don't
+Thank you.)
-00:22:36.080 --> 00:22:38.000
-use that word an awful lot because I
+00:22:33.679 --> 00:22:35.206
+[Corwin]: It's an honor.
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-sort of
+00:22:35.206 --> 00:22:37.428
+I don't use that word an awful lot
-00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:41.760
-sort of smirk at it but um gets us in a
+00:22:37.428 --> 00:22:39.867
+because I sort of smirk at it.
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-lot of trouble honor does but
+00:22:39.867 --> 00:22:43.941
+It gets us in a lot of trouble,
+honor does,
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-this will be a sure time to use it thank
+00:22:43.941 --> 00:22:46.904
+but this will be a sure time
+to use it.
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-you
+00:22:46.904 --> 00:22:48.840
+([Amin:] Thank you.)
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-likewise
+[Corwin:] Likewise.