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WEBVTT
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-My name is Corwin Brust and I
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+My name is Corwin Brust
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-will be talking about getting started
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+and I will be talking about getting
+started with Emacs today.
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-with Emacs today.
-
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I have been an Emacs user for a long
+time.
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-time. First of all, thanks and a huge
-
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-welcome to the conference
-
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-from me and
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+First of all, thanks and a huge welcome
+to the conference
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-and on behalf
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+from me and and on behalf
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-and back to the other people that
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+and back to the other people
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-have been helping to organize.
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+that have been helping to organize.
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It's been amazing just to be involved
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with that and just, kind of, see
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backstage.
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So I've used a lot of different editors
+in my time.
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-in my time. That's
-
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-about 25 years as a professional
-
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+That's about 25 years as a professional
software engineer.
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And most of that time I've been using
+Emacs.
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-Emacs. I'll talk a little bit in a minute
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+I'll talk a little bit in a minute
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(if I can ever find my slides)
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-about how I got into Emacs
+about how I got into Emacs,
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but I think if you've used Emacs and a
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lot of other editors for a long time,
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-something that you notice right away is that
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+something that you notice right away
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-you get good with it in a way that stays
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+is that you get good with it in a way
+that stays meaningful.
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-meaningful.
-
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You learn new things. Those things
+stick with you.
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-stick with you. You learn how to
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-make it do new tricks and then
-
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-keep doing those tricks.
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+You learn how to make it do new tricks
+and then keep doing those tricks.
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I want to mention that this
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conference--oops,
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-this talk isn't about
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-how to adjust your
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+this talk isn't about how to adjust
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-configuration specifically. I don't have
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+your configuration specifically.
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-a bunch of good code samples in here.
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+I don't have a bunch of good code
+samples in here.
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There are other great talks at the
+conference,
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-conference, particularly Andrew's,
-
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-that I looked at, that looked
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+particularly Andrew's, that I looked at,
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-like they might be more aimed at that
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+that looked like they might be more
+aimed at that
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"hey, I'm just getting started with Emacs,
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what are some things to try to make
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-it more comfortable for me starting?" This
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+it more comfortable for me starting?"
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-is about how to think about the problem
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+This is about how to think about the
+problem space.
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-space.
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+Hopefully, a good warm up as we start
+thinking about
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-Hopefully, a good warm up as we
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+some of the lightning talks a little
+later on.
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-start thinking about some of the
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+I'm just gonna quickly make sure
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-lightning talks a little later on.
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+I can see my IRC buffer in case
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-I'm just gonna quickly make sure I
-
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-can see my IRC buffer in case I run into
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-time. I didn't get my stopwatch started
-
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-for this one.
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+I run into time. I didn't get my
+stopwatch started for this one.
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So all right, let's dive in.
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-We assume that we want to install
-
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-packages
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+We assume that we want to
+install packages
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-and maybe configure some features. This
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+and maybe configure some features.
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-is particularly from the perspective of
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+This is particularly from the
+perspective of
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where we're working
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-with a bunch of people on a team and we
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+with a bunch of people on a team
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-want to get something done.
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+and we want to get something done.
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Some of us probably already have mature
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Emacs workflows.
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Others are installing it for the first
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time.
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-So the first question is, you know,
-
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-in that context: what's the value
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-proposition? Why should I mess with my
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+So the first question is, you know, in
+that context:
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-machine, my mature Emacs
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+what's the value proposition?
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-configuration, and impose my
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+Why should I mess with my machine,
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-ideas over the way somebody else is
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+my mature Emacs configuration,
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-learning Emacs? Well,
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+and impose my ideas over the way
+somebody else is learning Emacs?
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-it can be.. I'm off my slides here a
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+Well, it can be.. I'm off my slides here
+a little bit.
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-little bit.
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+It can be a little bit tricky
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-It can be a little bit
-
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-tricky
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to learn Emacs. One thing that
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helps us a lot
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is if people that we're working with
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can tell us, kinda, keystroke for
+keystroke at times,
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-keystroke at times, what to do and
-
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-explain what everything is doing.
-
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-Using the same packages can really
-
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-help us working together on a project.
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+what to do and explain what everything
+is doing.
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-Speaking from my personal
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+Using the same packages can really help
+us working together on a project.
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-experience,
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+Speaking from my personal experience,
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it took me decades to get to the point
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-where I was excited to program in Emacs
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+where I was excited to program
+in Emacs Lisp.
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-Lisp. I've programmed in a lot of programming
-
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+I've programmed in a lot of programming
languages,
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-but Lisp wasn't on my list. I looked at
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-my config that I was copy-pasting around
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+but Lisp wasn't on my list.
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-from generation after generation of
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+I looked at my config that I was
+copy-pasting around
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-.emacs file or
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+from generation after generation of
+.emacs file,
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-recrafting it from hand and from Internet
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-searches,
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+or recrafting it from hand and from
+Internet searches,
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to get the things that I needed when
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new job or contract,
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-and
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-be able to to quickly get through that
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-workflow that caused me to install the
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-program.
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-You know, just
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+and be able to to quickly get through
+that workflow
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-little simple one-liners that that
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+that caused me to install the program.
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-got committed to memory over decades
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+You know, just little simple one-liners
+that got committed to memory
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-eventually just led me to a sort of "hey what's going on
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+over decades eventually just led me to a
+sort of "hey what's going on here."
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-here." And I credit
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-Jeff Goff, my good friend who died
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-earlier in 2020,
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+And I credit Jeff Goff, my good friend
+who died earlier in 2020,
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for my lifelong love of Emacs.
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-Perhaps EriK and I will talk about that
+Perhaps Erik and I will talk about that
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a little bit more in another talk we
+have scheduled,
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-have
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-scheduled, but Jeff was a huge
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+but Jeff was a huge influence on us
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-influenceo on us
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+in a number of ways,
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-in a number of ways and a huge
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+and a huge contributor
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-contributor to the Raku programming
-
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-language
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+to the Raku programming language,
which is very cool.
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-So, understanding how
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-to make a good decision about splitting
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+So, understanding how to make
+a good decision
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-up configuration in a way to share it
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+about splitting up configuration in a
+way to share it across
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-across
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people with really different uses of
+Emacs...
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-Emacs... That's actually a
-
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-complicated topic and I want to
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+That's actually a complicated topic
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-sort of back off and stare at it for a
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+and I want to sort of back off and stare
+at it for a second.
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-second.
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I think Emacs is about people, so that
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means it's about community.
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And community means we're going to
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invite disagreement.
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-In fact, that disagreement
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-isn't necessarily a road-block to our
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-project. In fact,
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+In fact, that disagreement isn't
+necessarily a road-block to our project.
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-some of the work that a community
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+In fact, some of the work that a
+community project can invite us to do
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-project can invite us to do
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+is to get closer to each other
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-is to get closer to each other by
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+by inviting those disagreements,
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-inviting those disagreements, by
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+by learning from them--learning from
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-learning from them--learning from
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+different people's styles and from how
+they argue,
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-different people's
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-styles and from how they argue,
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and thinking about why they have that
+perspective
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-perspective and
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-what technical benefits that
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+and what technical benefits
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-perhaps radical point of view might
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+that perhaps radical point of view might
+carry away.
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-carry away. Some people are really
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+Some people are really aggressive
+arguers,
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-aggressive arguers, and others
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+and others are very passive and really
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-are very passive and really
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+couch their ideas in distancing terms,
+to say,
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-couch their ideas
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+"well probably, this is a good idea"
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-in distancing terms, to say, "well
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-probably, this is a good idea" or
-
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-"please double check me."
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+or "please double check me."
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Those don't always necessarily indicate
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-how certain a person is, because we're
-
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-different. We have different ways of
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+how certain a person is,
+because we're different.
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-communicating
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+We have different ways of communicating
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ideas like certainty or excitement.
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-[Music]
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+When we think about a bunch of
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-When we think about a bunch of really
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+really diverse programmers
+approaching Emacs,
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-diverse programmers approaching Emacs,
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-probably one of our our first really big
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+probably one of our first really big
challenges is just
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-to pick what we're going to go
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-after. There are a lot of
-
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-existing kit
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+to pick what we're going
+to go after.
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-installs and things like this.
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+There are a lot of existing kit installs
+and things like this.
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My argument is that you could actually
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get pretty far
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-just trading files around. Maybe the
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-more valuable
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+just trading files around.
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-conversation to have is making the
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+Maybe the more valuable conversation
+to have
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-hard decisions about, well,
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+is making the hard decisions
+about, well,
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"should we have vertical completion,"
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and the people that want
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the traditional splayed out over a
+single line completion,
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-single line completion
-
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-for example in the mode line, those
-
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-people are going to
-
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-add a line of config
-
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-to their own setup?
-
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-The way to get there? I mean, how do we
-
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-find out what works? We don't want to
-
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-slow down the people that
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+for example in the mode line,
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-are super productive with Emacs by
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+those people are going to add a line of
+config to their own setup?
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-asking them to completely break their
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+The way to get there?
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-workflows and make it easier for new
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+I mean, how do we find out what works?
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-folks.
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+We don't want to slow down the people
+that are super productive with Emacs
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-At the same time, we do
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+by asking them to completely
+break their workflows
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-want to make sure those new people are
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+and make it easier for new folks.
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-excited by Emacs and not turned off by
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+At the same time, we do want to make
+sure those new people
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-having to learn
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+are excited by Emacs and not turned off
+by having to learn
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-the entire jungle of Emacs
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+the entire jungle of Emacs history in
+the form of its unique
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-history in the form of its
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+technical stylings for things like
+frames, buffers,
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-unique technical stylings for
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+and other unique Emacs viewpoints
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-things like frames,
-
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-buffers, and other unique
-
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-Emacs viewpoints on important
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-interface concepts, especially.
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+on important interface concepts,
+especially.
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The encouragement here is to keep
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together as a crucible.
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-Rather than necessarily following our
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-defaults of
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+Rather than necessarily following
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-finding the simplest configuration
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+our defaults of finding the simplest
+configurations
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that generally work and letting people
-
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customize it,
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what if we tried to look
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-for fairly specific configurations that
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+for fairly specific configurations
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-we'll expect essentially all of our
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+that we'll expect essentially all of our
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developers to be using,
@@ -642,65 +506,52 @@ at least when they submit bug reports.
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In particular, with this,
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-I think that degree of
-
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-experimentation
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+I think that degree of experimentation
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can drive back into the Emacs
+development process.
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-development process. In the development
-
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-mailing list...
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+In the development mailing list...
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-I'm hoping I'll get a timing cue
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+I'm hoping I'll get a timing cue here.
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-here.
-
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In the context of Emacs development as a
+greater entity,
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-greater
-
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-entity, we see some of these struggles.
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+we see some of these struggles.
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Should we change this default?
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-Sometimes we can have the
-
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-sense that defaults in Emacs will never
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+Sometimes we can have the sense that
+defaults in Emacs will never change.
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-change. The conversation is too difficult.
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+The conversation is too difficult.
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I think one thing that can help us get
-
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there is evidence
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that says, "hey my 30- to 40-person project
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-is using this set of bindings and
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+is using this set of bindings,
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-here's what we learned about
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+and here's what we learned
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-brand new Emacs users trying to come in
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+about brand new Emacs users
+trying to come in
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and get work done with that."
@@ -709,22 +560,20 @@ and get work done with that."
(Amin: Yeah you still have
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-a couple more minutes)
-
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-Oh, beautiful. Okay, great. I will try to
+a couple more minutes.)
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-get through my last few slides that i
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+Oh, beautiful. Okay, great.
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-cut
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+I will try to get through my last few
+slides that I cut
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-in my last walkthrough, but I think i'm
+in my last walkthrough, but I think I'm
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-going quicker today thank you.
+going quicker today, thank you.
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Thank you.
@@ -732,41 +581,30 @@ Thank you.
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So let's just recap real quick:
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-in theory, Emacs works
-
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-out of the box. That means we're
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+in theory, Emacs works out of the box.
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-free to experiment. We can
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+That means we're free to experiment.
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-throw it all away and start over.
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+We can throw it all away and start over.
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As an organizational principle...
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+00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:30.079
I don't know what I was thinking on that
-
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slide, excuse me.
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-Bringing it back around
-
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-to the free
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+Bringing it back around to the free
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and open source software community,
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-our goal
-
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-is to enable users
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+our goal is to enable users
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to unlock their computers, to do as much
@@ -774,158 +612,118 @@ to unlock their computers, to do as much
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with them as possible.
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That's the context to take with project
-
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initialization, but sometimes
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-it could make sense to put...
-
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-[Music]
-
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-to put some gloves on. I've thrown up on
-
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-the screen here just a couple of other
+it could make sense
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-ideas, ways to maybe think outside of the
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+to put some gloves on.
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-box.
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+I've thrown up on the screen here
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-As you're putting together project
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+just a couple of other ideas,
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-nets,
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+ways to maybe think outside of the box.
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-my words of encouragement are to experiment
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+As you're putting together project nets,
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-with it,
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+my words of encouragement are to
+experiment with it,
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+00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:09.941
try different things, and think really
+specifically
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-specifically about how
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+about how different the development
+users might be from each other
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-different the development users
-
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-might be from each other as you
-
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-define standards for configuring
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+as you define standards for configuring
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the user environment of Emacs
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-specifically for developing
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+specifically for developing on a
+project.
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-on a project. That's pretty much my talk.
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+That's pretty much my talk.
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+00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:32.959
If there's any time, I would take a
-
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couple questions.
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-Thank you for your awesome talk,
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+(Amin: Thank you for your
+awesome talk, Corwin.
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-Corwin.
-
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-I think we have one or two
-
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-minutes for a few questions.
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+I think we have one or two minutes for a
+few questions.
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Do you have the pad open or would you
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-like me to read the questions for you?
-
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-Oh, I managed to close the
+like me to read the questions for you?)
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-pad
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+Corwin: Oh, I managed to close the pad
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-and I am trying to open it again. All
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+and I am trying to open it again.
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-right, there it opened.
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+All right, there it opened.
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+00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:05.500
Bringing it onto a screen where I can
+see it.
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-see it. Will you read me the
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+Will you read me the first question
+while I drag windows around, please?
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-first question while I drag windows
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+(Amin: Sure. It says, "do you use Emacs
+as a community building tool?")
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-around, please?
-
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-(Amin: Sure. It says, "do you use Emacs as a
-
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-community building tool?")
-
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Do I use Emacs as a community building
-
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tool, or how do I?
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(Amin: It just says do you.) Yes, absolutely.
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-I think Emacs is an ambassador to
-
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-the GNU tool chain.
-
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-I think that in the fullness of time, we
-
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-will see an Emacs
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+I think Emacs is an ambassador to the
+GNU tool chain.
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-that makes
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+I think that in the fullness of time,
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-and that makes iOS and Android and other
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+we will see an Emacs
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-closed-source
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+that makes iOS and Android and other
+closed-source tools dream.
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-tools dream. That's why they mock us
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+That's why they mock us and call Emacs
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-and call
-
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-Emacs an operating system. It's because
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+an operating system. It's because
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it could be, if we cared for it to be.
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from the perspective of how many problem
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-spaces it can address, how many types of
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+spaces it can address,
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-users it can satisfy,
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+how many types of users it can satisfy,
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the things that we can do to make
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-it robust in those
-
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-environments. I mean, we're always
-
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-thinking about the weak points, but
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+it robust in those environments.
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-is Emacs a community building tool? Heck
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+I mean, we're always thinking about the
+weak points,
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-yeah.
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+but is Emacs a community building tool?
+Heck yeah.
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(Amin: There's like one or two more
-
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questions.
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I think they're more long-form so it
-
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might be better
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-if you took them off stream so you
-
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-could keep the schedule on time.)
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+if you took them off stream so you could
+keep the schedule on time.)
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-i would love to take those questions
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+I would love to take those questions
+offline.
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-offline. I will respond to you in
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+I will respond to you
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-writing if we don't get to it in a
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+in writing if we don't get to it
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-breakout room.
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+in a breakout room.
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-Thanks so much for joining us. I
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+Thanks so much for joining us.
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-can't wait to see the rest of the
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+I can't wait to see the rest of the
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conference. See you there!