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+WEBVTT
+
+
+00:00:00.000 --> 00:01:14.279
+Introduction
+
+00:01:14.280 --> 00:03:15.919
+Message from Bastien Guerry
+
+00:03:15.920 --> 00:05:09.240
+My step-by-step journey to Org maintenance
+
+00:05:09.241 --> 00:08:11.766
+Priorities for Org maintenance
+
+00:08:11.767 --> 00:08:41.589
+Modular Org
+
+00:08:41.590 --> 00:09:59.999
+Slim down large Org libraries
+
+00:10:00.000 --> 00:11:25.399
+Upstream generic Org libraries
+
+00:11:25.400 --> 00:13:13.256
+Use modern Emacs APIs and libraries
+
+00:13:13.257 --> 00:14:45.730
+Improve Org parser APIs
+
+00:14:45.731 --> 00:15:57.379
+Improve Org babel APIs
+
+00:15:57.380 --> 00:16:31.199
+Beyond Org code and Emacs: third-party packages, apps, parsers
+
+00:16:31.200 --> 00:17:37.819
+org-contrib
+
+00:17:37.820 --> 00:18:25.839
+Org orphanage
+
+00:18:25.840 --> 00:20:23.868
+Mobile apps and parsers
+
+00:20:23.869 --> 00:21:56.239
+Long-standing syntax problems
+
+00:21:56.240 --> 00:23:30.502
+New syntax features
+
+00:23:30.503 --> 00:25:54.072
+New features I hope to see in Org
+
+00:25:54.073 --> 00:26:01.357
+Org community
+
+00:26:01.358 --> 00:27:17.159
+Org community forums - Org mailing list
+
+00:27:17.160 --> 00:30:05.579
+Org mailing list - world
+
+00:30:05.580 --> 00:31:01.519
+Contribute ideas!
+
+00:31:01.520 --> 00:31:34.999
+How much can a single person do?
+
+00:31:35.000 --> 00:33:02.079
+Contribute code!
+
+00:33:02.080 --> 00:35:40.239
+Why contribute?
+
+00:35:40.240 --> 00:37:41.419
+Benefits for code contributors
+
+00:37:41.420 --> 00:38:30.439
+Contributing as non-programmer
+
+00:38:30.440 --> 00:39:12.996
+Got no free time, but still want to help?
+
+00:39:12.997 --> 00:39:34.440
+Thank you
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+WEBVTT captioned by sachac
+
+NOTE Introduction
+
+00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.039
+Hello, everyone. My name is Ihor Radchenko,
+
+00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:07.319
+and I'm the new official Org Mode maintainer.
+
+00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:09.679
+Today, I'll briefly introduce myself
+
+00:00:09.680 --> 00:00:12.319
+and then share my ideas about the future of
+
+00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:16.039
+Org Mode development. I will start by passing
+
+00:00:16.040 --> 00:00:18.759
+the word from Bastien, the previous maintainer.
+
+00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:22.239
+Then I will tell you a little bit about my story,
+
+00:00:22.240 --> 00:00:24.119
+starting from ordinary Org Mode user
+
+00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:26.039
+all the way to the maintainer.
+
+00:00:26.040 --> 00:00:30.839
+Then I will detail the new directions of development
+
+00:00:30.840 --> 00:00:33.599
+and specific features which I want to see
+
+00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:35.799
+in Org Mode in the coming years.
+
+00:00:35.800 --> 00:00:39.659
+And I will conclude by asking you, Org Mode users,
+
+00:00:39.660 --> 00:00:42.399
+to contribute to Org Mode
+
+00:00:42.400 --> 00:00:46.759
+because all the features which are too many
+
+00:00:46.760 --> 00:00:49.259
+can only be implemented with the help of the community,
+
+00:00:49.260 --> 00:00:51.879
+with the help of more contributors.
+
+00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:53.579
+And for that, of course, I will also talk
+
+00:00:53.580 --> 00:00:59.479
+about Org community and how I see it evolve
+
+00:00:59.480 --> 00:01:01.199
+so that we have a good communication
+
+00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:03.039
+between the development of Org Mode
+
+00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:07.559
+and the community ideas.
+
+00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:14.279
+Let me first pass the word to Bastien.
+
+NOTE Message from Bastien Guerry
+
+00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.599
+Hello, everyone. Ihor Radchenko is the new Org Mode
+
+00:01:17.600 --> 00:01:18.519
+maintainer.
+
+00:01:18.520 --> 00:01:21.039
+He's been acting as such for a couple of years now,
+
+00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:23.479
+and I'm really glad he's finally agreed to take on the
+
+00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:26.439
+role officially. As a maintainer, I've probably done
+
+00:01:26.440 --> 00:01:29.439
+a few things right and certainly made many mistakes.
+
+00:01:29.440 --> 00:01:32.319
+Here are 4 lessons I've learned in 14 years.
+
+00:01:32.320 --> 00:01:34.319
+The first is that maintaining Org Mode
+
+00:01:34.320 --> 00:01:36.439
+isn't just about code, it's mostly
+
+00:01:36.440 --> 00:01:40.679
+about users. Of course, some of them will never learn how to
+
+00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:43.159
+report a bug, some of them will behave like spoiled
+
+00:01:43.160 --> 00:01:46.319
+children, and most of them will expect you to work for free
+
+00:01:46.320 --> 00:01:50.439
+forever. Nevertheless, the time is as valuable as yours.
+
+00:01:50.440 --> 00:01:53.639
+Whatever they request, there is always something that can
+
+00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.879
+lead to a positive outcome for Org Mode or its community.
+
+00:01:57.880 --> 00:02:00.719
+The second lesson is that maintenance isn't just about
+
+00:02:00.720 --> 00:02:04.239
+technical choices. It's also about predictability.
+
+00:02:04.240 --> 00:02:07.879
+Be very clear and very loud about what users and contributors
+
+00:02:07.880 --> 00:02:11.159
+can expect of your time, skills, and motivations.
+
+00:02:11.160 --> 00:02:12.879
+Stick to the robustness principle
+
+00:02:12.880 --> 00:02:15.719
+by being liberal in what you accept
+
+00:02:15.720 --> 00:02:19.319
+and strict in what you produce. Thirdly, it's all
+
+00:02:19.320 --> 00:02:22.319
+about learning. Let's build a culture together where it's
+
+00:02:22.320 --> 00:02:25.719
+okay to ask stupid questions. No one is born knowing how to
+
+00:02:25.720 --> 00:02:28.639
+write in English, how to report a bug, or how to maintain a
+
+00:02:28.640 --> 00:02:32.059
+large piece of code. Remember that old-timers were newbies
+
+00:02:32.060 --> 00:02:35.199
+and that newbies could become maintainers. We all have a lot
+
+00:02:35.200 --> 00:02:38.759
+to learn, even if it's just how to respect each other.
+
+00:02:38.760 --> 00:02:42.239
+Finally, as a maintainer, think about the next one. Who will
+
+00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:45.519
+be in your shoes next? What kind of maintainer do you want for
+
+00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:48.839
+a software you will be using for decades? It's also a
+
+00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:52.159
+responsibility of the Org Mode community. How can we
+
+00:02:52.160 --> 00:02:55.999
+collectively attract maintainers that want to help us use
+
+00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:59.359
+and enhance this wonderful little tool? How can we,
+
+00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:02.199
+as Org Mode users, help Ihor pave the way
+
+00:03:02.200 --> 00:03:04.399
+for the next maintainers?
+
+00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:08.279
+Enough said. I'm confident Org Mode is in good hands and I'm a very
+
+00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:11.559
+happy user. Thanks everyone for all these years of fun and
+
+00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:15.919
+learning.
+
+NOTE My step-by-step journey to Org maintenance
+
+00:03:15.920 --> 00:03:20.279
+Now back to my talk. Let me start by briefly introducing
+
+00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.959
+myself. I'm actually not a programmer. By training, I'm a
+
+00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:27.519
+material scientist. and I only started using Emacs and
+
+00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.719
+Org Mode and naturally doing programming (because that's
+
+00:03:30.720 --> 00:03:36.799
+Emacs) when I was doing my PhD and I wanted to use Org Mode to
+
+00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:40.479
+tame my research work. A couple of years I was just an
+
+00:03:40.480 --> 00:03:44.599
+ordinary user, until I learned enough and
+
+00:03:44.600 --> 00:03:48.463
+got enough courage to report my first bug.
+
+00:03:48.464 --> 00:03:51.639
+Then it all evolved over the years.
+
+00:03:51.640 --> 00:03:53.959
+I started participating in the mailing list,
+
+00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.559
+I started learning more about Elisp,
+
+00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:59.839
+I reported more complex bugs,
+
+00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:08.879
+I eventually got around to go and fix the tricky bugs.
+
+00:04:08.880 --> 00:04:11.719
+Then I started participating more in Org mailing list
+
+00:04:11.720 --> 00:04:16.919
+in helping fixing bugs in selected areas of Org
+
+00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:22.839
+mode and eventually switching to all parts of Org.
+
+00:04:22.840 --> 00:04:27.639
+At some point I ended up doing the de facto maintenance job
+
+00:04:27.640 --> 00:04:32.679
+together with Bastien and got an actual maintenance offer
+
+00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:38.599
+which I accepted recently. The key takeaway I want you to get
+
+00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:40.999
+from here is that you don't have to be a programmer, you don't
+
+00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:47.239
+have to know Elisp to contribute, and you don't even have to
+
+00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:51.439
+be like that to become a maintainer. All it takes is
+
+00:04:51.440 --> 00:04:55.279
+slow, methodical, persistent learning over the years,
+
+00:04:55.280 --> 00:04:58.499
+participating in the community, and eventually
+
+00:04:58.500 --> 00:05:02.399
+submitting your patches upstream. And eventually you can
+
+00:05:02.400 --> 00:05:07.679
+become a maintainer, or not a maintainer as you wish.
+
+00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:09.240
+Enough about me.
+
+NOTE Priorities for Org maintenance
+
+00:05:09.241 --> 00:05:13.359
+Let's talk about what I think should happen with
+
+00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:18.859
+Org Mode and what my goals on Org Mode is. The first and top
+
+00:05:18.860 --> 00:05:25.199
+priority for me is the basics. The basics, the
+
+00:05:25.200 --> 00:05:26.069
+code-based stability.
+
+00:05:26.070 --> 00:05:29.719
+Basically, all the foundations, all the APIs in
+
+00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:34.959
+Org Mode, all the basic libraries, which everything builds
+
+00:05:34.960 --> 00:05:39.079
+upon so that we have fewer bugs and we have more
+
+00:05:39.080 --> 00:05:42.599
+understandable code so that others who want to contribute
+
+00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:44.651
+have easier time understanding
+
+00:05:44.652 --> 00:05:46.371
+what is going on in the code base and
+
+00:05:46.372 --> 00:05:52.259
+contribute without much of a problem or confusion.
+
+00:05:52.260 --> 00:05:56.339
+Second equally important direction is the Org community,
+
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+because a single person, even a couple of people, cannot
+
+00:06:00.580 --> 00:06:05.599
+really develop such a big project as Org Mode. And we always
+
+00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:08.439
+want new contributors, which are not coming from nowhere.
+
+00:06:08.440 --> 00:06:10.228
+We need to have the community of users.
+
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+We have a community of
+
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+people who participate in discussions, who later submit
+
+00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.719
+patches and code, and that's where we get most of the new
+
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+features. So I would like to improve the communication
+
+00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:29.879
+between Org community and the development. The third
+
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+direction I want to pursue is making life easier for
+
+00:06:34.260 --> 00:06:38.639
+third-party packages. Because we don't only have org-mode
+
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+as it's distributed with Emacs. We have a lot of
+
+00:06:41.320 --> 00:06:45.196
+ELPA packages. We have a lot of MELPA packages.
+
+00:06:45.197 --> 00:06:47.917
+People who want some specific features
+
+00:06:47.918 --> 00:06:49.839
+on top of org-mode do develop
+
+00:06:49.840 --> 00:06:54.279
+these packages which are widely used or not so widely used.
+
+00:06:54.280 --> 00:06:57.639
+It's not only about Emacs. We have a lot of mobile apps
+
+00:06:57.640 --> 00:07:01.879
+that can work with Org files, have a lot of parsers which
+
+00:07:01.880 --> 00:07:06.039
+enable this mobile apps, or in general, programs outside
+
+00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:11.019
+Elisp to understand Org files.
+
+00:07:11.020 --> 00:07:14.959
+Fourth direction is the Org markup as a foundation of
+
+00:07:14.960 --> 00:07:18.319
+org-mode as a major mode, because we have a lot of
+
+00:07:18.320 --> 00:07:20.573
+functionality in org-mode itself inside Emacs,
+
+00:07:20.574 --> 00:07:23.674
+but it's all based on the underlying markup,
+
+00:07:23.675 --> 00:07:27.435
+and markup should have enough features
+
+00:07:27.436 --> 00:07:32.479
+to support the functions we want to see there.
+
+00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:34.919
+Last direction, which is somewhat less
+
+00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:37.834
+important, mostly because I don't have
+
+00:07:37.835 --> 00:07:40.136
+that much time to focus on everything,
+
+00:07:40.137 --> 00:07:44.159
+is the new features. I do want to see
+
+00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.840
+certain important features in Org mode,
+
+00:07:46.841 --> 00:07:50.262
+but I usually cannot spend too much time on them
+
+00:07:50.263 --> 00:07:53.084
+because of the previous more important parts.
+
+00:07:53.085 --> 00:07:54.999
+I do rely on the org community and
+
+00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:57.456
+the contributors to implement these new features.
+
+00:07:57.457 --> 00:08:01.915
+My idea is that I want to direct which features
+
+00:08:01.916 --> 00:08:03.757
+and how they should be implemented,
+
+00:08:03.758 --> 00:08:05.299
+but the actual people who implement
+
+00:08:05.300 --> 00:08:09.463
+them should come from the community.
+
+00:08:09.464 --> 00:08:11.766
+Now let's go into the details.
+
+NOTE Modular Org
+
+00:08:11.767 --> 00:08:15.719
+The code base. As a bit of motivation, I would like
+
+00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:19.279
+to share this email from Richard Stallman, who a couple of
+
+00:08:19.280 --> 00:08:27.039
+years ago asked about improving Org mode by making it
+
+00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:32.839
+more modular. That's directly asking about improving the
+
+00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:35.639
+foundations of the code. That's what I think is
+
+00:08:35.640 --> 00:08:41.589
+an important direction as well. Here's an example.
+
+NOTE Slim down large Org libraries
+
+00:08:41.590 --> 00:08:45.312
+We have a lot of really, really large org libraries,
+
+00:08:45.313 --> 00:08:49.376
+like org.el, which is like one megabyte or something large,
+
+00:08:49.377 --> 00:08:51.558
+org-agenda, org-table, org-list,
+
+00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:52.879
+a number of files which are really,
+
+00:08:52.880 --> 00:08:56.599
+really, really large. What is worse is they are hard to
+
+00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:00.906
+understand sometimes. I even have an example,
+
+00:09:00.907 --> 00:09:04.505
+alphapapa complained that part of his motivation
+
+00:09:04.506 --> 00:09:07.867
+to write org-ql and specifically his agenda part,
+
+00:09:07.868 --> 00:09:08.879
+agenda-like part, was
+
+00:09:08.880 --> 00:09:13.119
+because org-agenda is so hard to understand that it's
+
+00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:15.572
+easier to start from scratch.
+
+00:09:15.573 --> 00:09:17.079
+I don't want such situations
+
+00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:20.374
+to happen in future, if possible at all.
+
+00:09:20.375 --> 00:09:21.879
+One of the projects
+
+00:09:21.880 --> 00:09:23.116
+I'm currently working on,
+
+00:09:23.117 --> 00:09:25.100
+it's work in progress now,
+
+00:09:25.101 --> 00:09:28.437
+is splitting Org libraries into smaller parts,
+
+00:09:28.438 --> 00:09:31.808
+into more documented parts,
+
+00:09:31.809 --> 00:09:34.239
+into the APIs which are actually
+
+00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:38.470
+documented and explained in the code at least,
+
+00:09:38.471 --> 00:09:42.571
+so that people who just open org-mode code
+
+00:09:42.572 --> 00:09:45.239
+cannot be scared away and go and
+
+00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:47.999
+read the comments and understand what is happening there
+
+00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:52.039
+easier. At this point, I have almost doubled the number of
+
+00:09:52.040 --> 00:09:54.839
+libraries. It's still work in progress, so there's a lot of
+
+00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:59.999
+room for improvement in this area.
+
+NOTE Upstream generic Org libraries
+
+00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:04.599
+Another direction which is
+
+00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:09.799
+somewhat reasonable in relation to splitting things down
+
+00:10:09.800 --> 00:10:15.159
+is that some libraries are really generic in Org Mode,
+
+00:10:15.160 --> 00:10:18.239
+because Org Mode often has a functionality
+
+00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.100
+which is really new, and for that,
+
+00:10:20.101 --> 00:10:22.239
+it had to implement some very generic
+
+00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.222
+functionality that doesn't have to be used
+
+00:10:24.223 --> 00:10:24.903
+just for Org Mode.
+
+00:10:24.904 --> 00:10:27.924
+This can be generalized for Emacs in general.
+
+00:10:27.925 --> 00:10:29.645
+There is a number of libraries
+
+00:10:29.646 --> 00:10:32.999
+which we may or may not upstream to
+
+00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.559
+Emacs, depending on what Emacs maintain, I think. As one
+
+00:10:37.560 --> 00:10:40.719
+example is org-capture, because it's a very obvious
+
+00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:43.679
+example. org-capture started as support from remember.el,
+
+00:10:43.680 --> 00:10:46.759
+which is still a part of Emacs. It has more features than
+
+00:10:46.760 --> 00:10:50.039
+remember.el, which we required for Org. But, you know,
+
+00:10:50.040 --> 00:10:55.139
+these features can be backported. Why not? And then
+
+00:10:55.140 --> 00:10:58.679
+not only Org-mode, but other Emacs libraries can benefit
+
+00:10:58.680 --> 00:11:01.957
+from these features we have in Org-mode only.
+
+00:11:01.958 --> 00:11:04.739
+Similarly, I have a long list of
+
+00:11:04.740 --> 00:11:12.039
+different libraries that can be shared.
+
+00:11:12.040 --> 00:11:14.004
+Yeah, for some I'm not sure,
+
+00:11:14.005 --> 00:11:18.959
+but in general, there is a lot of
+
+00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:25.399
+work that may be done and may be discussed in the future.
+
+NOTE Use modern Emacs APIs and libraries
+
+00:11:25.400 --> 00:11:31.479
+The third part about the basics is making use of the new Emacs
+
+00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:36.039
+libraries. Org Mode in general is quite well written in terms
+
+00:11:36.040 --> 00:11:40.039
+of Emacs integration. We do support many of the Emacs
+
+00:11:40.040 --> 00:11:44.359
+features and libraries which are generic. However, in more
+
+00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:47.999
+recent Emacs versions, we started getting some new
+
+00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:50.799
+features, and we do want to make use of them in Org.
+
+00:11:50.800 --> 00:11:55.879
+For example, recently we contributed yank-media support for
+
+00:11:55.880 --> 00:12:00.359
+clipboard pasting and drag and drop. Now it is supported
+
+00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:04.399
+in Org mode already in the released version. Eventually
+
+00:12:04.400 --> 00:12:08.359
+we want to support transient.el, because now Org uses ad hoc
+
+00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:11.999
+system. It's of course much better to use existing and
+
+00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:14.839
+more powerful menus, which are implemented in
+
+00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:18.159
+transient. It even has some initial work-in-progress
+
+00:12:18.160 --> 00:12:20.028
+implementation. I hope it can be eventually
+
+00:12:20.029 --> 00:12:23.960
+extended to the whole Org Mode
+
+00:12:23.961 --> 00:12:29.359
+There are other things like compatibility, which there is
+
+00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:33.519
+an excellent Emacs library, compat.el, that provides
+
+00:12:33.520 --> 00:12:37.599
+backwards compatibility and Org also has something like this
+
+00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.439
+in org-compat. We don't have to write it ourself again.
+
+00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:43.741
+We can make use of the existing library.
+
+00:12:43.742 --> 00:12:46.043
+Similarly, there's a very, very new library
+
+00:12:46.044 --> 00:12:48.759
+track-changes for tracking changes
+
+00:12:48.760 --> 00:12:53.159
+in real time. Eventually, if you want to support
+
+00:12:53.160 --> 00:12:56.359
+context-menu mode, maybe touchscreen, Android
+
+00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:00.999
+support, I don't know, but I hope it can be done by someone.
+
+00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:09.319
+And some more generic library: select thingatpt.
+
+00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.256
+That's about using external APIs.
+
+NOTE Improve Org parser APIs
+
+00:13:13.257 --> 00:13:18.557
+Now about the internal Org APIs.
+
+00:13:18.558 --> 00:13:19.439
+One important, probably one of the most important
+
+00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:23.259
+parts of Org is the parser, how Org itself understands the
+
+00:13:23.260 --> 00:13:27.159
+Org files. The situation is that we have two parsers in
+
+00:13:27.160 --> 00:13:30.999
+Org mode. One is the Org element, the proper parser, which we
+
+00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:34.519
+use as a reference, but many parts of Org still use regular
+
+00:13:34.520 --> 00:13:38.079
+expressions, which are approximate. These two parsers
+
+00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:41.839
+are not exactly consistent, which is really bad, and I hope
+
+00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:47.999
+to solve this. I already started doing some work by
+
+00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:54.140
+factoring out some part of abstract syntax tree and working
+
+00:13:54.141 --> 00:13:57.519
+on real-time parser, incremental parser, which is enabled
+
+00:13:57.520 --> 00:14:00.039
+by default in Org 9.6, but there are still parts which I need
+
+00:14:00.040 --> 00:14:02.999
+to work on. Eventually I want to get rid of regular
+
+00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.439
+expression-based parser completely, so that we don't have
+
+00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:10.199
+any inconsistencies inside Org Mode. One of the examples of
+
+00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:13.159
+these parts that are still using regular expression is
+
+00:14:13.160 --> 00:14:16.719
+fontification, which is often simply wrong, especially in
+
+00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:21.639
+some edge cases, and we really want to use the proper parser
+
+00:14:21.640 --> 00:14:27.559
+in this area. Maybe even editing org files using the parser
+
+00:14:27.560 --> 00:14:31.799
+syntax tree, but that might be tricky, although there is an
+
+00:14:31.800 --> 00:14:38.119
+existing library that implements some ideas for this.
+
+00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:41.519
+The key point is that org-element-api, the parser, should
+
+00:14:41.520 --> 00:14:42.749
+eventually be used everywhere
+
+00:14:42.750 --> 00:14:45.730
+so that everything is consistent.
+
+NOTE Improve Org babel APIs
+
+00:14:45.731 --> 00:14:50.359
+The second important API is the Org babel.
+
+00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:54.414
+Currently, Org babel does have some API,
+
+00:14:54.415 --> 00:14:56.195
+but first, it's not well documented.
+
+00:14:56.196 --> 00:14:59.039
+Second, it's sometimes awkwardly
+
+00:14:59.040 --> 00:15:04.819
+designed, especially compared with the exporter.
+
+00:15:04.820 --> 00:15:11.419
+I do want Org Babel APIs to be more consistent.
+
+00:15:11.420 --> 00:15:14.879
+Another thing about Org Babel, it's not exactly API, but you
+
+00:15:14.880 --> 00:15:18.259
+know that documentation for most of the Babel backends are
+
+00:15:18.260 --> 00:15:20.879
+not even in the Org manual, even though the backends are
+
+00:15:20.880 --> 00:15:25.559
+built-in. They are on Org Wiki, and we do want to move them to
+
+00:15:25.560 --> 00:15:29.919
+the manual eventually. That's the important part, and it
+
+00:15:29.920 --> 00:15:34.519
+should be done. Those are some obstacles, like not all the
+
+00:15:34.520 --> 00:15:39.399
+features are properly implemented, and that's a bit of an
+
+00:15:39.400 --> 00:15:43.159
+extra job that should be done. Another small thing which
+
+00:15:43.160 --> 00:15:48.079
+thanks to Bruno Barbier is being done, in progress: we
+
+00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:51.599
+should have a more robust asynchronous API for babel.
+
+00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:53.600
+I hope it can progress further.
+
+00:15:53.601 --> 00:15:57.379
+For now, it already progressed quite far.
+
+NOTE Beyond Org code and Emacs: third-party packages, apps, parsers
+
+00:15:57.380 --> 00:15:59.959
+That's all about the basics, the underlying
+
+00:15:59.960 --> 00:16:04.799
+backbone of the Org codebase. Let's move to the second
+
+00:16:04.800 --> 00:16:09.519
+important direction which is
+
+00:16:09.520 --> 00:16:13.739
+the third-party packages and basically the parsers
+
+00:16:13.740 --> 00:16:18.279
+for mobile apps. I will postpone the community to the end
+
+00:16:18.280 --> 00:16:23.919
+because I want to have a call for contribution at the end.
+
+00:16:23.920 --> 00:16:31.199
+For third-party packages, I would like to remind you that
+
+NOTE org-contrib
+
+00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:34.239
+Org mode used to have something called org-contrib as a
+
+00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:39.799
+part of Org mode, which is a collection of small libraries,
+
+00:16:39.800 --> 00:16:44.079
+small packages that didn't have a proper
+
+00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:45.495
+copyright assignment basically,
+
+00:16:45.496 --> 00:16:49.359
+but more or less a part of Org mode. This is
+
+00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.119
+no longer the case. Now what we did is
+
+00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:56.641
+we moved a number of very rarely used libraries
+
+00:16:56.642 --> 00:16:58.759
+from Org core itself to org-contrib,
+
+00:16:58.760 --> 00:17:03.779
+and now we treat org-contrib as basically the libraries
+
+00:17:03.780 --> 00:17:08.020
+that we really want someone to take responsibility for.
+
+00:17:08.021 --> 00:17:10.580
+We want to maintain this for everything that is in
+
+00:17:10.581 --> 00:17:18.079
+org-contrib, and from me and other Org team, we
+
+00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:21.162
+do not spend too much time maintaining this package,
+
+00:17:21.163 --> 00:17:25.286
+just do some most basic bug fixing, and that's all.
+
+00:17:25.287 --> 00:17:27.359
+If you know, if you see
+
+00:17:27.360 --> 00:17:30.031
+some libraries from org-contrib and you use them,
+
+00:17:30.032 --> 00:17:31.991
+and you know Elisp, please volunteer to be
+
+00:17:31.992 --> 00:17:34.454
+the maintainer, because otherwise
+
+00:17:34.455 --> 00:17:37.819
+there will be not much progress in these libraries.
+
+NOTE Org orphanage
+
+00:17:37.820 --> 00:17:40.719
+As a natural extension of this and inspired by
+
+00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:46.199
+Tarsius's Emacs Orphanage idea, we also maintain a small
+
+00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:50.359
+page basically listing the libraries, some others like
+
+00:17:50.360 --> 00:17:55.439
+packages, Emacs packages that are not really maintained.
+
+00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:59.239
+If you are a maintainer of a library and you don't have time
+
+00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:02.507
+to do it, you can write to Org mailing list
+
+00:18:02.508 --> 00:18:05.209
+and we can add the library to this page
+
+00:18:05.210 --> 00:18:09.918
+so that we can search for new maintainers
+
+00:18:09.919 --> 00:18:12.839
+in a more centralized way. If you are an
+
+00:18:12.840 --> 00:18:18.119
+Elisp hacker and you want to help something for Org Mode,
+
+00:18:18.120 --> 00:18:25.839
+you can check that page and see where you can help.
+
+NOTE Mobile apps and parsers
+
+00:18:25.840 --> 00:18:29.879
+Now away from Emacs, or mobile apps.
+
+00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.948
+We have quite a lot of mobile apps at this point.
+
+00:18:33.949 --> 00:18:35.759
+Unfortunately, it's very hard
+
+00:18:35.760 --> 00:18:42.459
+for me and many other Elisp contributors to contribute to
+
+00:18:42.460 --> 00:18:46.759
+these apps because they are not using Elisp naturally. But
+
+00:18:46.760 --> 00:18:52.359
+these applications heavily rely on Org markup. I do hope
+
+00:18:52.360 --> 00:18:55.799
+that we can keep Org markup consistent enough and rich
+
+00:18:55.800 --> 00:19:00.599
+enough so that people don't have to invent extensions to Org
+
+00:19:00.600 --> 00:19:06.020
+like what happened to Markdown.
+
+00:19:06.021 --> 00:19:09.542
+I really want to emphasize that
+
+00:19:09.543 --> 00:19:12.359
+I want to see more Org parsers in different
+
+00:19:12.360 --> 00:19:13.739
+languages so that they can be used by developers.
+
+00:19:13.740 --> 00:19:24.185
+For people who are writing these parsers,
+
+00:19:24.186 --> 00:19:27.267
+I want to share this link. It is the org-syntax reference.
+
+00:19:27.268 --> 00:19:29.368
+It is the official Org syntax,
+
+00:19:29.369 --> 00:19:33.631
+which is what we think it should be.
+
+00:19:33.632 --> 00:19:36.212
+It's described in plain human language.
+
+00:19:36.213 --> 00:19:39.855
+It's not a code. All details should be listed there.
+
+00:19:39.856 --> 00:19:43.557
+Please use it as a reference if you are writing a parser.
+
+00:19:43.558 --> 00:19:45.118
+Eventually, this document will be
+
+00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:51.672
+submitted to IETF, I hope. In the future
+
+00:19:51.673 --> 00:19:56.059
+I hope to write a set of tests which will work as benchmarks.
+
+00:19:56.060 --> 00:19:58.839
+basically we have some existing tests for our internal
+
+00:19:58.840 --> 00:20:04.319
+parser and I want to factor out these tests so they can be used
+
+00:20:04.320 --> 00:20:07.359
+by any parser, so that we can compare the performance and
+
+00:20:07.360 --> 00:20:14.579
+which parts of Org mode are parsed and which parts are not.
+
+00:20:14.580 --> 00:20:18.999
+I mentioned that we want to submit to IETF, which means that
+
+00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:23.868
+Org markup will become the actual registered format.
+
+NOTE Long-standing syntax problems
+
+00:20:23.869 --> 00:20:31.279
+But before we do that and thus fix Org markup in stone,
+
+00:20:31.280 --> 00:20:34.614
+because it's very hard to change things in the IETF,
+
+00:20:34.615 --> 00:20:38.836
+it's important to address important problems,
+
+00:20:38.837 --> 00:20:41.217
+existing problems with Org syntax.
+
+00:20:41.218 --> 00:20:43.639
+There are some problems, like I mentioned the
+
+00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:46.941
+inconsistencies between the two existing parsers
+
+00:20:46.942 --> 00:20:51.407
+in Org mode. There are also some parts,
+
+00:20:51.408 --> 00:20:53.149
+there are some examples, like there are
+
+00:20:53.150 --> 00:20:54.799
+problems with numeric priorities, for
+
+00:20:54.800 --> 00:20:58.719
+example, which are not treated consistently. There are
+
+00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:02.599
+problems, more general problems with syntax when people
+
+00:21:02.600 --> 00:21:07.239
+request some edge cases which should be addressed. Like,
+
+00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:10.101
+it's very hard to do interword markup.
+
+00:21:10.102 --> 00:21:13.701
+We have zero-width space workaround, but many people dislike it,
+
+00:21:13.702 --> 00:21:16.262
+so maybe we want to do something about it.
+
+00:21:16.263 --> 00:21:18.079
+We have some edge cases when we
+
+00:21:18.080 --> 00:21:22.119
+combine emphasis with links. We have some edge cases when we
+
+00:21:22.120 --> 00:21:24.959
+have double blank lines inside some source blocks, for
+
+00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:30.079
+example, and combination in the list. I hope we can
+
+00:21:30.080 --> 00:21:33.399
+somehow address it. It's not impossible to do it, it just
+
+00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:38.919
+requires time. One annoying part is the inline task syntax.
+
+00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:41.479
+It's annoying both from the programming perspective,
+
+00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:43.919
+internally as implementation, and from the UI
+
+00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:47.519
+perspective, because there are too many stars. We
+
+00:21:47.520 --> 00:21:50.479
+probably should redesign it eventually, maybe in
+
+00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:56.239
+backwards-compatible way, but we will see how it goes.
+
+NOTE New syntax features
+
+00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:00.639
+Another part is not just fixing the edge cases or problems,
+
+00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.039
+it's the completely new syntax features. That's probably
+
+00:22:04.040 --> 00:22:07.959
+done after we submit to IETF. But there are important things
+
+00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.119
+that people often request, like time zone support in
+
+00:22:11.120 --> 00:22:15.919
+timestamps. Better repeaters, like more flexible
+
+00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:21.799
+repeaters, that's really a frequent request also.
+
+00:22:21.800 --> 00:22:28.919
+Another idea is some custom markup, which is
+
+00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:31.939
+coming to various requests, like, for example, people
+
+00:22:31.940 --> 00:22:37.887
+often ask to highlight some words with a color,
+
+00:22:37.888 --> 00:22:40.890
+for example, or with some other special way
+
+00:22:40.891 --> 00:22:43.333
+and then export it in a special way,
+
+00:22:43.334 --> 00:22:47.239
+just as we do with special blocks, basically.
+
+00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:51.061
+What I want to introduce is the ability to do it
+
+00:22:51.062 --> 00:22:54.601
+on a macro level or inline.
+
+00:22:54.602 --> 00:22:57.879
+Of course, a new syntax feature which I wish we could
+
+00:22:57.880 --> 00:23:01.064
+have is the multi-line cells in tables.
+
+00:23:01.065 --> 00:23:02.545
+It's very frequently requested as well,
+
+00:23:02.546 --> 00:23:07.007
+but I really have no clue how to do it.
+
+00:23:07.008 --> 00:23:09.239
+We had a discussion about this in previous
+
+00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:13.359
+discussions, but there was no conclusion. We don't see a
+
+00:23:13.360 --> 00:23:16.155
+good way how to implement it syntax-wise.
+
+00:23:16.156 --> 00:23:19.140
+Unlike time zones where we decided exactly the syntax,
+
+00:23:19.141 --> 00:23:22.665
+how it could be and we just need patches to be submitted,
+
+00:23:22.666 --> 00:23:25.610
+here even the idea of syntax is not clear.
+
+00:23:25.611 --> 00:23:26.771
+Please do participate in these discussions
+
+00:23:26.772 --> 00:23:30.502
+if you have ideas.
+
+NOTE New features I hope to see in Org
+
+00:23:30.503 --> 00:23:32.519
+The last direction is the
+
+00:23:32.520 --> 00:23:36.319
+new features. In general, I welcome all kinds of good
+
+00:23:36.320 --> 00:23:39.559
+features, but there are certain things which I explicitly
+
+00:23:39.560 --> 00:23:43.919
+want to see and I hope to see submitted. If you are
+
+00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:48.559
+interested, please do submit patches. One, and probably
+
+00:23:48.560 --> 00:23:50.799
+many people are aware about it, is the asynchronous LaTeX
+
+00:23:50.800 --> 00:23:55.319
+preview, developed by Timothy and Karthik. I hope it can be
+
+00:23:55.320 --> 00:23:59.279
+finalized eventually and upstreamed. It's pretty much in
+
+00:23:59.280 --> 00:24:02.319
+ready state, but on the technical level it should be
+
+00:24:02.320 --> 00:24:09.879
+discussed further and revised. The second is org-ql by Adam.
+
+00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:17.239
+I hope it can be upstreamed. It's also a work in progress.
+
+00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:20.519
+It's just a question of free time for Adam mostly, I think,
+
+00:24:20.520 --> 00:24:26.199
+and me. That's another important part, new feature. The
+
+00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.239
+third is the so-called multi-page export. The idea is the
+
+00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:34.319
+same as many packages for blog posts, so that you have a
+
+00:24:34.320 --> 00:24:39.479
+single Org file and then you can export multiple HTML pages,
+
+00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:42.599
+for example, or PDF pages, anything like that. This work in
+
+00:24:42.600 --> 00:24:46.687
+progress by Orm, thanks to him,
+
+00:24:46.688 --> 00:24:49.349
+although it was a little bit stuck because
+
+00:24:49.350 --> 00:24:52.079
+I am not exactly sure how to best integrate it
+
+00:24:52.080 --> 00:24:56.879
+into the existing APIs. If you are a developer of one of the
+
+00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:01.079
+blogging packages, I would appreciate if you can chime in
+
+00:25:01.080 --> 00:25:06.479
+and probably share some ideas here. Next are just some
+
+00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:09.839
+wishes I wish we could have, but
+
+00:25:09.840 --> 00:25:11.949
+it's not very detailed. One is
+
+00:25:11.950 --> 00:25:14.159
+the multi-language support, so that we can have Org
+
+00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:16.879
+documents in multiple languages, or maybe even
+
+00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:21.159
+translations. The collaborative editing that many
+
+00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:25.359
+people would wish to have, I think. Things like tracking
+
+00:25:25.360 --> 00:25:28.999
+changes, adding comments, importing from
+
+00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:30.874
+some other Org formats with
+
+00:25:30.875 --> 00:25:32.035
+the comments and changes
+
+00:25:32.036 --> 00:25:34.018
+so that we can actually participate
+
+00:25:34.019 --> 00:25:36.962
+with all those Microsoft Word users
+
+00:25:36.963 --> 00:25:39.743
+and stuff like that.
+
+00:25:39.744 --> 00:25:43.719
+But that's really too much for me alone to handle.
+
+00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:47.839
+If you want to see one of these features, please consider
+
+00:25:47.840 --> 00:25:50.039
+contributing. Just write the mailing list about your
+
+00:25:50.040 --> 00:25:54.072
+interest and we can start from there.
+
+NOTE Org community
+
+00:25:54.073 --> 00:25:57.455
+Now, the important part is, you see,
+
+00:25:57.456 --> 00:25:58.635
+I keep asking people like,
+
+00:25:58.636 --> 00:25:59.799
+please contribute, please contribute,
+
+00:25:59.800 --> 00:26:01.357
+but who should contribute?
+
+NOTE Org community forums - Org mailing list
+
+00:26:01.358 --> 00:26:03.799
+So I want to improve communication between the
+
+00:26:03.800 --> 00:26:12.479
+community and the mailing list. Now, people often
+
+00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:16.799
+discuss new features or ideas on all kinds of places like
+
+00:26:16.800 --> 00:26:20.239
+Reddit, Mastodon, like all kinds of Matrix/IRC chats,
+
+00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:25.439
+even on meetups, some non-English language. That's very
+
+00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:29.479
+nice that we have this community, but not all the ideas are
+
+00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:34.499
+visible to the developers. I do wish that the most
+
+00:26:34.500 --> 00:26:38.279
+important things that people want to see should end up on the
+
+00:26:38.280 --> 00:26:42.331
+mailing list, one way or another.
+
+00:26:42.332 --> 00:26:43.519
+I'll later talk about some
+
+00:26:43.520 --> 00:26:48.839
+ideas how I think it can be done. Another part is
+
+00:26:48.840 --> 00:26:52.554
+we have org-wiki and I hope that
+
+00:26:52.555 --> 00:26:55.239
+we can make it more centralized
+
+00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:58.476
+space for interesting Org mode articles,
+
+00:26:58.477 --> 00:27:00.617
+for tutorials, for blog posts,
+
+00:27:00.618 --> 00:27:03.679
+at least linked to blog posts. If you have
+
+00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:08.119
+some idea about good blog posts, it would be nice if you
+
+00:27:08.120 --> 00:27:13.025
+submit a patch to work or at least email about this link
+
+00:27:13.026 --> 00:27:17.159
+to the mailing list.
+
+NOTE Org mailing list - world
+
+00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:21.054
+Of course, not everyone likes to use mailing lists
+
+00:27:21.055 --> 00:27:23.809
+or don't have a good setup to do it,
+
+00:27:23.810 --> 00:27:25.559
+or even don't want to read
+
+00:27:25.560 --> 00:27:27.599
+everything on Org mailing list, because there are things
+
+00:27:27.600 --> 00:27:31.359
+like bug reports, people don't really want to see that. So
+
+00:27:31.360 --> 00:27:35.439
+Bastien actually developed a tool that can help with this.
+
+00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:39.239
+If you want to monitor Org mailing list, but want to see
+
+00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:42.799
+only the most important discussions, and maybe
+
+00:27:42.800 --> 00:27:45.479
+participate if you decide to, you don't have to register. We
+
+00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:51.919
+have Woof, which is basically a web page that monitors our
+
+00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:55.639
+main list, but not every email. That's the most important
+
+00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:58.719
+announcements, some blog-like posts, or feature
+
+00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:02.799
+requests, or some discussions. Then on this webpage,
+
+00:28:02.800 --> 00:28:06.119
+you can see it as HTML, or you can subscribe as RSS, or even
+
+00:28:06.120 --> 00:28:11.119
+download in Org or MD format.
+
+00:28:11.120 --> 00:28:15.359
+Thanks to Sacha Chua, also weekly news about Emacs in
+
+00:28:15.360 --> 00:28:23.199
+general, but Org Mode as well. It also includes the
+
+00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.639
+new features in Org Mode on the development branch and the
+
+00:28:27.100 --> 00:28:30.199
+interesting new blog posts and discussions on various
+
+00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:35.879
+Reddit forums or mailing lists everywhere. I did this
+
+00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:39.519
+little bit of experimental integration so that many lists
+
+00:28:39.520 --> 00:28:45.159
+can also be read, kind of announced on the chats.
+
+00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.319
+For example, in #org-mode Matrix room, we have a bot that
+
+00:28:48.320 --> 00:28:53.239
+connects to Woof RSS so that all the news and discussions are
+
+00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:55.923
+notified in the chat so that people
+
+00:28:55.924 --> 00:28:58.764
+can see if they are interested
+
+00:28:58.765 --> 00:29:02.519
+and maybe, hopefully, participate. I wish
+
+00:29:02.520 --> 00:29:05.599
+we could also have similar kind of both for Reddit, Mastodon
+
+00:29:05.600 --> 00:29:10.879
+and maybe IRC. That way we have mailing list connected to
+
+00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:17.719
+more active and more modern forums and chats.
+
+00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:19.959
+More people exposed to what is happening.
+
+00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:26.719
+Another part is that we actually have a web interface to Org
+
+00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.048
+mailing list and you can even reply from there,
+
+00:29:29.049 --> 00:29:31.400
+but it's not always obvious, unfortunately.
+
+00:29:31.401 --> 00:29:37.745
+We have this public inbox software
+
+00:29:37.746 --> 00:29:39.999
+to transform the mailing list into
+
+00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:45.719
+HTML pages. That's a decent interface, but it could be
+
+00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.199
+improved to look more forum-like, so that people can easily
+
+00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:53.079
+find the reply button or basically participate without
+
+00:29:53.080 --> 00:29:56.119
+too much effort, even if they are not subscribed or they are just
+
+00:29:56.120 --> 00:29:59.079
+casually reading. That would be nice if someone
+
+00:29:59.080 --> 00:30:05.579
+knowledgeable of CSS could help with this.
+
+NOTE Contribute ideas!
+
+00:30:05.580 --> 00:30:12.199
+Again, I cannot emphasize more that most of the Org ideas of
+
+00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:16.974
+the new features are coming from people,
+
+00:30:16.975 --> 00:30:23.221
+but often they are known either by someone
+
+00:30:23.222 --> 00:30:24.479
+submitting a patch to the mailing list or
+
+00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:28.239
+submitting an idea to the mailing list. Rarely, it happens when
+
+00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.999
+someone is reading posts from Reddit that don't share to the
+
+00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:35.639
+mailing list. If you think that there is some important
+
+00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:38.599
+discussion happening on the forum,
+
+00:30:38.600 --> 00:30:42.415
+it would be nice that you can go ahead and share it
+
+00:30:42.416 --> 00:30:46.519
+with Org mailing list. We don't care about
+
+00:30:46.520 --> 00:30:49.500
+on-topic, off-topic, because unlike
+
+00:30:49.501 --> 00:30:51.385
+emacs-devel, we don't focus on development.
+
+00:30:51.386 --> 00:30:54.929
+We can discuss some related to Org mode topics
+
+00:30:54.930 --> 00:31:01.519
+in open-end list, just like on an ordinary forum.
+
+NOTE How much can a single person do?
+
+00:31:01.520 --> 00:31:08.439
+I would like to end my talk with the call for contributions.
+
+00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:13.639
+Let me explain a little bit, because you saw now I shared many
+
+00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:19.319
+many ideas and I do spend a lot of time on Org Mode. In fact,
+
+00:31:19.320 --> 00:31:21.322
+for the last year, I was spending like
+
+00:31:21.323 --> 00:31:23.437
+30 hours per week or something.
+
+00:31:23.438 --> 00:31:27.319
+Until recently, I can spend a bit less, but still
+
+00:31:27.320 --> 00:31:29.900
+even with that much of commitment,
+
+00:31:29.901 --> 00:31:31.479
+there is no way I can handle
+
+00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.999
+everything by myself.
+
+NOTE Contribute code!
+
+00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.551
+We really, really need more people to contribute
+
+00:31:38.552 --> 00:31:43.633
+so that Org mode keeps moving forward.
+
+00:31:43.634 --> 00:31:45.079
+Again, I just shared ideas,
+
+00:31:45.080 --> 00:31:46.394
+but I have so many more.
+
+00:31:46.395 --> 00:31:48.734
+I have more than a thousand ideas noted down.
+
+00:31:48.735 --> 00:31:52.636
+Yeah, there's no way I can do it myself.
+
+00:31:52.637 --> 00:31:57.350
+I do need help for new contributions, for new features.
+
+00:31:57.351 --> 00:31:57.617
+If someone can help fixing bugs, it would be really great.
+
+00:31:57.618 --> 00:32:04.291
+If someone knows specialized things,
+
+00:32:04.292 --> 00:32:06.873
+like for example Open Document Format,
+
+00:32:06.874 --> 00:32:08.759
+which I don't know very well, it would be
+
+00:32:08.760 --> 00:32:12.999
+really nice, because things like ODT export requires
+
+00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:14.089
+knowing that, and if someone already has the knowledge,
+
+00:32:14.090 --> 00:32:18.081
+it would be much easier
+
+00:32:18.082 --> 00:32:23.480
+if that person can help with such things.
+
+00:32:23.481 --> 00:32:26.868
+Although in the coming years,
+
+00:32:26.869 --> 00:32:28.159
+it's very important to have
+
+00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:28.830
+regular contributors
+
+00:32:28.831 --> 00:32:31.921
+because my life is my life
+
+00:32:31.922 --> 00:32:34.363
+and things may happen,
+
+00:32:34.364 --> 00:32:37.244
+so it would be nice to have some kind of backup
+
+00:32:37.245 --> 00:32:40.245
+so that bugs keep being fixed
+
+00:32:40.245 --> 00:32:40.245
+and things like patches being accepted
+
+00:32:40.246 --> 00:32:44.567
+and stuff like that,
+
+00:32:44.568 --> 00:32:46.168
+so that some person can at least
+
+00:32:46.169 --> 00:32:49.879
+temporarily take on my job.
+
+00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.510
+I would like to emphasize
+
+00:32:51.511 --> 00:32:53.319
+that the code contributors are the most
+
+00:32:53.320 --> 00:32:56.212
+important contributions for Org Mode.
+
+00:32:56.213 --> 00:33:02.079
+All other types are less important, really.
+
+NOTE Why contribute?
+
+00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:03.959
+I want to spend a couple of slides
+
+00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:07.719
+trying to motivate you to contribute.
+
+00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:11.128
+If you ever considered contributing
+
+00:33:11.129 --> 00:33:13.359
+or if you ever wished to have some
+
+00:33:13.360 --> 00:33:16.879
+feature in Org Mode, really don't wait, because
+
+00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:18.239
+most new features are contributed by people.
+
+00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:23.736
+They are not contributed by me.
+
+00:33:23.737 --> 00:33:25.199
+I contribute a few things, but I am alone.
+
+00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.038
+I cannot contribute many things.
+
+00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.300
+Most of the things are contributed by users
+
+00:33:30.301 --> 00:33:33.441
+who go ahead and submit patches.
+
+00:33:33.442 --> 00:33:37.323
+And even in very commonly requested features,
+
+00:33:37.324 --> 00:33:40.344
+it's usually someone who steps up.
+
+00:33:40.345 --> 00:33:42.199
+If you want something, don't wait.
+
+00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.206
+Just go ahead and write to mailing list.
+
+00:33:44.207 --> 00:33:46.207
+You don't have to submit a patch immediately.
+
+00:33:46.208 --> 00:33:48.729
+You can just say, I am interested.
+
+00:33:48.730 --> 00:33:53.819
+We will start from there.
+
+00:33:53.820 --> 00:33:56.043
+We'll start because that's my job
+
+00:33:56.044 --> 00:33:57.644
+and I will guide you through.
+
+00:33:57.645 --> 00:33:58.990
+If you have problems with Org in general,
+
+00:33:58.991 --> 00:34:02.308
+I'll explain, because that's what I know.
+
+00:34:02.309 --> 00:34:05.030
+I will explain how to implement things better,
+
+00:34:05.031 --> 00:34:06.999
+but I need someone to actually do
+
+00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.070
+the job and write the code.
+
+00:34:10.071 --> 00:34:19.057
+Even if you don't have 10 years experience with Elisp,
+
+00:34:19.058 --> 00:34:21.178
+it doesn't matter. You can learn on the way.
+
+00:34:21.179 --> 00:34:22.519
+There are many examples of this in the
+
+00:34:22.520 --> 00:34:25.642
+mailing list when we start slowly,
+
+00:34:25.643 --> 00:34:27.759
+fix things one by one, and
+
+00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.225
+eventually arrive to a good quality
+
+00:34:29.226 --> 00:34:31.707
+when the person is not experienced.
+
+00:34:31.708 --> 00:34:34.759
+You just need to be ready to learn things,
+
+00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.992
+Spend your free time (that's as usual, right?),
+
+00:34:37.993 --> 00:34:41.214
+and have the interest in specific thing
+
+00:34:41.215 --> 00:34:43.499
+you are contributing.
+
+00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:44.475
+Don't be afraid to be wrong.
+
+00:34:44.476 --> 00:34:47.578
+I will be there to assist.
+
+00:34:47.579 --> 00:34:48.937
+If you don't like emails,
+
+00:34:48.938 --> 00:34:51.239
+if you don't like patches, it doesn't matter.
+
+00:34:51.240 --> 00:34:55.361
+Again, you can share GitHub link. It's okay.
+
+00:34:55.362 --> 00:34:57.684
+You can go and modify some workflow directly.
+
+00:34:57.685 --> 00:34:59.565
+You submit the modified version. It's also okay.
+
+00:34:59.566 --> 00:35:05.119
+It's easy for me to create patches if I need to.
+
+00:35:05.120 --> 00:35:07.279
+If you don't like emails at all, you don't want to
+
+00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:11.879
+participate in the mailing list, it's not ideal, but I can
+
+00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:16.005
+still work with this. I am on IRC, I am on Matrix,
+
+00:35:16.006 --> 00:35:19.799
+you can ping me, it's yantar2.
+
+00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.347
+We also have monthly meetup,
+
+00:35:22.348 --> 00:35:23.987
+so you can go and ask by voice,
+
+00:35:23.988 --> 00:35:27.088
+we can just talk in person, discuss your ideas,
+
+00:35:27.089 --> 00:35:29.299
+it's also fine.
+
+00:35:29.300 --> 00:35:35.159
+The key point is that we always welcome new contributors.
+
+00:35:35.160 --> 00:35:40.239
+The more contributions to Org Mode is better.
+
+NOTE Benefits for code contributors
+
+00:35:40.240 --> 00:35:41.519
+To increase the motivation,
+
+00:35:41.520 --> 00:35:44.919
+I'll just try to show some benefits
+
+00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:49.479
+of contributing to Org Mode and free software in general.
+
+00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.079
+It can be actually useful for your CV if you're a programmer.
+
+00:35:52.080 --> 00:35:54.999
+It doesn't matter if it's Lisp, because you can have a pet
+
+00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.039
+project that demonstrates your skills, that you can finish
+
+00:35:59.040 --> 00:36:04.359
+something to a usable state.
+
+00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:06.800
+A pet project usually demonstrates
+
+00:36:06.801 --> 00:36:08.839
+that you can work alone, but it doesn't
+
+00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:12.119
+demonstrate anything about you working in a team, in the
+
+00:36:12.120 --> 00:36:15.519
+production team. When you contribute to
+
+00:36:15.520 --> 00:36:17.629
+Libre software, look,
+
+00:36:17.630 --> 00:36:20.759
+you will work with a number of people
+
+00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:24.352
+who contribute and comment on your work.
+
+00:36:24.353 --> 00:36:27.073
+You'll have to learn a new code base.
+
+00:36:27.074 --> 00:36:30.075
+You will have to follow certain standards.
+
+00:36:30.076 --> 00:36:33.239
+All these things, by having a public record
+
+00:36:33.240 --> 00:36:37.559
+of contribution, will be a valid point that proves your
+
+00:36:37.560 --> 00:36:42.087
+knowledge in your CV. I put a small quote
+
+00:36:42.088 --> 00:36:44.869
+(which I'm not going to read in the interest of time)
+
+00:36:44.870 --> 00:36:46.279
+from Rudolf Adamkovič,
+
+00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:50.159
+who is describing these three points in probably a
+
+00:36:50.160 --> 00:36:56.519
+more expressive way.
+
+00:36:56.520 --> 00:36:59.939
+Another benefit is you can actually get money from this.
+
+00:36:59.940 --> 00:37:03.999
+Thanks to a number of Org Mode users who kindly contribute to
+
+00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.199
+Org development, we have some amount of money
+
+00:37:07.200 --> 00:37:11.009
+coming in, and we don't hold on this money.
+
+00:37:11.010 --> 00:37:13.550
+If we get another person who contributes
+
+00:37:13.551 --> 00:37:17.511
+to Org regularly, we are happy to share this money,
+
+00:37:17.512 --> 00:37:22.539
+because we do know that
+
+00:37:22.540 --> 00:37:24.599
+getting some extra money, even a little bit,
+
+00:37:24.600 --> 00:37:27.216
+does improve motivation.
+
+00:37:27.217 --> 00:37:29.158
+We are really ready to share this.
+
+00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:33.523
+If you are serious about contributing,
+
+00:37:33.524 --> 00:37:34.919
+you can just request this
+
+00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:41.419
+and we can share a part of the donations to you.
+
+NOTE Contributing as non-programmer
+
+00:37:41.420 --> 00:37:45.199
+For non-programmers, we also have a lot of work to do.
+
+00:37:45.200 --> 00:37:47.092
+There's a lot of stuff we can do on the Org wiki,
+
+00:37:47.093 --> 00:37:48.754
+especially with CSS styles,
+
+00:37:48.755 --> 00:37:53.178
+with updating articles,
+
+00:37:53.179 --> 00:37:54.880
+with adding links to tutorials,
+
+00:37:54.881 --> 00:37:56.222
+or even writing tutorials about Org Mode.
+
+00:37:56.223 --> 00:38:01.081
+It would be nice to have more screencasts.
+
+00:38:01.082 --> 00:38:02.702
+It would be nice to improve Org manual,
+
+00:38:02.703 --> 00:38:05.283
+because that's the most difficult part for me
+
+00:38:05.284 --> 00:38:07.325
+because I'm too familiar with the code.
+
+00:38:07.326 --> 00:38:11.226
+Writing the manual when you know things internally
+
+00:38:11.227 --> 00:38:13.727
+is very hard. I just know too many things.
+
+00:38:13.728 --> 00:38:16.809
+I can assume that people know too much,
+
+00:38:16.810 --> 00:38:20.911
+that new users have no idea about certain things.
+
+00:38:20.912 --> 00:38:30.439
+I can just omit those without being aware.
+
+NOTE Got no free time, but still want to help?
+
+00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.319
+The final slide I would go to come back is about
+
+00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:37.919
+donations. Again, most important is contributing code,
+
+00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.879
+but I do hope that donations can
+
+00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.445
+increase the number of contributors.
+
+00:38:45.446 --> 00:38:47.999
+I don't know. I know for sure because some
+
+00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:52.439
+people like Timothy, who is participating in this, he did
+
+00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.319
+find the donations helpful, especially for more boring
+
+00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:00.079
+tasks like bug fixing and to move things
+
+00:39:00.080 --> 00:39:07.835
+over the long time. If you cannot contribute by other means,
+
+00:39:07.836 --> 00:39:12.996
+it would be appreciated to contribute money.
+
+NOTE Thank you
+
+00:39:12.997 --> 00:39:14.817
+We came to the end of my talk.
+
+00:39:14.818 --> 00:39:16.277
+Thank you for your attention.
+
+00:39:16.278 --> 00:39:19.698
+If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
+
+00:39:19.699 --> 00:39:22.898
+I think we can even discuss further
+
+00:39:22.899 --> 00:39:28.180
+during the next Org Meetup in the coming week.
+
+00:39:28.181 --> 00:39:30.320
+There, if you have more detailed questions,
+
+00:39:30.321 --> 00:39:31.640
+we can continue discussing
+
+00:39:31.641 --> 00:39:34.440
+apart from what happens after this presentation.
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+<a name="org-update-mainVideo-transcript"></a>
+# Transcript
+
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Introduction""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""Hello, everyone. My name is Ihor Radchenko,""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and I'm the new official Org Mode maintainer.""" start="00:00:03.040" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Today, I'll briefly introduce myself""" start="00:00:07.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and then share my ideas about the future of""" start="00:00:09.680" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Org Mode development. I will start by passing""" start="00:00:12.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the word from Bastien, the previous maintainer.""" start="00:00:16.040" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Then I will tell you a little bit about my story,""" start="00:00:18.760" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""starting from ordinary Org Mode user""" start="00:00:22.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""all the way to the maintainer.""" start="00:00:24.120" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Then I will detail the new directions of development""" start="00:00:26.040" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and specific features which I want to see""" start="00:00:30.840" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""in Org Mode in the coming years.""" start="00:00:33.600" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""And I will conclude by asking you, Org Mode users,""" start="00:00:35.800" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""to contribute to Org Mode""" start="00:00:39.660" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""because all the features which are too many""" start="00:00:42.400" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""can only be implemented with the help of the community,""" start="00:00:46.760" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""with the help of more contributors.""" start="00:00:49.260" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""And for that, of course, I will also talk""" start="00:00:51.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""about Org community and how I see it evolve""" start="00:00:53.580" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""so that we have a good communication""" start="00:00:59.480" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""between the development of Org Mode""" start="00:01:01.200" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and the community ideas.""" start="00:01:03.040" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Let me first pass the word to Bastien.""" start="00:01:07.560" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Message from Bastien Guerry""" start="00:01:14.280" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""Hello, everyone. Ihor Radchenko is the new Org Mode""" start="00:01:14.280" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""maintainer.""" start="00:01:17.600" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""He's been acting as such for a couple of years now,""" start="00:01:18.520" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and I'm really glad he's finally agreed to take on the""" start="00:01:21.040" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""role officially. As a maintainer, I've probably done""" start="00:01:23.480" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""a few things right and certainly made many mistakes.""" start="00:01:26.440" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Here are 4 lessons I've learned in 14 years.""" start="00:01:29.440" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""The first is that maintaining Org Mode""" start="00:01:32.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""isn't just about code, it's mostly""" start="00:01:34.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""about users. Of course, some of them will never learn how to""" start="00:01:36.440" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""report a bug, some of them will behave like spoiled""" start="00:01:40.680" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""children, and most of them will expect you to work for free""" start="00:01:43.160" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""forever. Nevertheless, the time is as valuable as yours.""" start="00:01:46.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Whatever they request, there is always something that can""" start="00:01:50.440" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""lead to a positive outcome for Org Mode or its community.""" start="00:01:53.640" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""The second lesson is that maintenance isn't just about""" start="00:01:57.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""technical choices. It's also about predictability.""" start="00:02:00.720" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Be very clear and very loud about what users and contributors""" start="00:02:04.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""can expect of your time, skills, and motivations.""" start="00:02:07.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Stick to the robustness principle""" start="00:02:11.160" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""by being liberal in what you accept""" start="00:02:12.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and strict in what you produce. Thirdly, it's all""" start="00:02:15.720" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""about learning. Let's build a culture together where it's""" start="00:02:19.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""okay to ask stupid questions. No one is born knowing how to""" start="00:02:22.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""write in English, how to report a bug, or how to maintain a""" start="00:02:25.720" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""large piece of code. Remember that old-timers were newbies""" start="00:02:28.640" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and that newbies could become maintainers. We all have a lot""" start="00:02:32.060" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""to learn, even if it's just how to respect each other.""" start="00:02:35.200" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Finally, as a maintainer, think about the next one. Who will""" start="00:02:38.760" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""be in your shoes next? What kind of maintainer do you want for""" start="00:02:42.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""a software you will be using for decades? It's also a""" start="00:02:45.520" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""responsibility of the Org Mode community. How can we""" start="00:02:48.840" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""collectively attract maintainers that want to help us use""" start="00:02:52.160" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and enhance this wonderful little tool? How can we,""" start="00:02:56.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""as Org Mode users, help Ihor pave the way""" start="00:02:59.360" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""for the next maintainers?""" start="00:03:02.200" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Enough said. I'm confident Org Mode is in good hands and I'm a very""" start="00:03:04.400" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""happy user. Thanks everyone for all these years of fun and""" start="00:03:08.280" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""learning.""" start="00:03:11.560" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""My step-by-step journey to Org maintenance""" start="00:03:15.920" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""Now back to my talk. Let me start by briefly introducing""" start="00:03:15.920" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""myself. I'm actually not a programmer. By training, I'm a""" start="00:03:20.280" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""material scientist. and I only started using Emacs and""" start="00:03:23.960" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Org Mode and naturally doing programming (because that's""" start="00:03:27.520" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Emacs) when I was doing my PhD and I wanted to use Org Mode to""" start="00:03:30.720" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""tame my research work. A couple of years I was just an""" start="00:03:36.800" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""ordinary user, until I learned enough and""" start="00:03:40.480" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""got enough courage to report my first bug.""" start="00:03:44.600" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Then it all evolved over the years.""" start="00:03:48.464" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I started participating in the mailing list,""" start="00:03:51.640" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I started learning more about Elisp,""" start="00:03:53.960" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I reported more complex bugs,""" start="00:03:56.560" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I eventually got around to go and fix the tricky bugs.""" start="00:03:59.840" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Then I started participating more in Org mailing list""" start="00:04:08.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""in helping fixing bugs in selected areas of Org""" start="00:04:11.720" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""mode and eventually switching to all parts of Org.""" start="00:04:16.920" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""At some point I ended up doing the de facto maintenance job""" start="00:04:22.840" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""together with Bastien and got an actual maintenance offer""" start="00:04:27.640" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""which I accepted recently. The key takeaway I want you to get""" start="00:04:32.680" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""from here is that you don't have to be a programmer, you don't""" start="00:04:38.600" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""have to know Elisp to contribute, and you don't even have to""" start="00:04:41.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""be like that to become a maintainer. All it takes is""" start="00:04:47.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""slow, methodical, persistent learning over the years,""" start="00:04:51.440" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""participating in the community, and eventually""" start="00:04:55.280" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""submitting your patches upstream. And eventually you can""" start="00:04:58.500" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""become a maintainer, or not a maintainer as you wish.""" start="00:05:02.400" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Enough about me.""" start="00:05:07.680" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Priorities for Org maintenance""" start="00:05:09.241" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""Let's talk about what I think should happen with""" start="00:05:09.241" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Org Mode and what my goals on Org Mode is. The first and top""" start="00:05:13.360" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""priority for me is the basics. The basics, the""" start="00:05:18.860" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""code-based stability.""" start="00:05:25.200" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Basically, all the foundations, all the APIs in""" start="00:05:26.070" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Org Mode, all the basic libraries, which everything builds""" start="00:05:29.720" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""upon so that we have fewer bugs and we have more""" start="00:05:34.960" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""understandable code so that others who want to contribute""" start="00:05:39.080" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""have easier time understanding""" start="00:05:42.600" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""what is going on in the code base and""" start="00:05:44.652" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""contribute without much of a problem or confusion.""" start="00:05:46.372" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Second equally important direction is the Org community,""" start="00:05:52.260" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""because a single person, even a couple of people, cannot""" start="00:05:56.340" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""really develop such a big project as Org Mode. And we always""" start="00:06:00.580" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""want new contributors, which are not coming from nowhere.""" start="00:06:05.600" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""We need to have the community of users.""" start="00:06:08.440" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""We have a community of""" start="00:06:10.229" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""people who participate in discussions, who later submit""" start="00:06:12.200" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""patches and code, and that's where we get most of the new""" start="00:06:15.680" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""features. So I would like to improve the communication""" start="00:06:19.720" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""between Org community and the development. The third""" start="00:06:24.920" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""direction I want to pursue is making life easier for""" start="00:06:29.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""third-party packages. Because we don't only have org-mode""" start="00:06:34.260" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""as it's distributed with Emacs. We have a lot of""" start="00:06:38.640" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""ELPA packages. We have a lot of MELPA packages.""" start="00:06:41.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""People who want some specific features""" start="00:06:45.197" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""on top of org-mode do develop""" start="00:06:47.918" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""these packages which are widely used or not so widely used.""" start="00:06:49.840" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""It's not only about Emacs. We have a lot of mobile apps""" start="00:06:54.280" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""that can work with Org files, have a lot of parsers which""" start="00:06:57.640" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""enable this mobile apps, or in general, programs outside""" start="00:07:01.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Elisp to understand Org files.""" start="00:07:06.040" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Fourth direction is the Org markup as a foundation of""" start="00:07:11.020" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""org-mode as a major mode, because we have a lot of""" start="00:07:14.960" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""functionality in org-mode itself inside Emacs,""" start="00:07:18.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but it's all based on the underlying markup,""" start="00:07:20.574" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and markup should have enough features""" start="00:07:23.675" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""to support the functions we want to see there.""" start="00:07:27.436" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Last direction, which is somewhat less""" start="00:07:32.480" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""important, mostly because I don't have""" start="00:07:34.920" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""that much time to focus on everything,""" start="00:07:37.835" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""is the new features. I do want to see""" start="00:07:40.137" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""certain important features in Org mode,""" start="00:07:44.160" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but I usually cannot spend too much time on them""" start="00:07:46.841" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""because of the previous more important parts.""" start="00:07:50.263" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I do rely on the org community and""" start="00:07:53.085" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the contributors to implement these new features.""" start="00:07:55.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""My idea is that I want to direct which features""" start="00:07:57.457" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and how they should be implemented,""" start="00:08:01.916" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but the actual people who implement""" start="00:08:03.758" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""them should come from the community.""" start="00:08:05.300" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Now let's go into the details.""" start="00:08:09.464" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Modular Org""" start="00:08:11.767" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""The code base. As a bit of motivation, I would like""" start="00:08:11.767" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""to share this email from Richard Stallman, who a couple of""" start="00:08:15.720" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""years ago asked about improving Org mode by making it""" start="00:08:19.280" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""more modular. That's directly asking about improving the""" start="00:08:27.040" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""foundations of the code. That's what I think is""" start="00:08:32.840" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""an important direction as well. Here's an example.""" start="00:08:35.640" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Slim down large Org libraries""" start="00:08:41.590" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""We have a lot of really, really large org libraries,""" start="00:08:41.590" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""like org.el, which is like one megabyte or something large,""" start="00:08:45.313" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""org-agenda, org-table, org-list,""" start="00:08:49.377" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""a number of files which are really,""" start="00:08:51.559" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""really, really large. What is worse is they are hard to""" start="00:08:52.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""understand sometimes. I even have an example,""" start="00:08:56.600" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""alphapapa complained that part of his motivation""" start="00:09:00.907" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""to write org-ql and specifically his agenda part,""" start="00:09:04.506" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""agenda-like part, was""" start="00:09:07.868" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""because org-agenda is so hard to understand that it's""" start="00:09:08.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""easier to start from scratch.""" start="00:09:13.120" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I don't want such situations""" start="00:09:15.573" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""to happen in future, if possible at all.""" start="00:09:17.080" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""One of the projects""" start="00:09:20.375" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I'm currently working on,""" start="00:09:21.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it's work in progress now,""" start="00:09:23.117" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""is splitting Org libraries into smaller parts,""" start="00:09:25.101" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""into more documented parts,""" start="00:09:28.438" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""not only Org-mode, but other Emacs libraries can benefit""" start="00:10:55.140" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""work that may be done and may be discussed in the future.""" start="00:11:18.960" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template new="1" text="""Use modern Emacs APIs and libraries""" start="00:11:25.400" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""That's about using external APIs.""" start="00:13:09.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""that we really want someone to take responsibility for.""" start="00:17:03.780" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""As a natural extension of this and inspired by""" start="00:17:37.820" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""page basically listing the libraries, some others like""" start="00:17:46.200" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""packages, Emacs packages that are not really maintained.""" start="00:17:50.360" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""and we can add the library to this page""" start="00:18:02.508" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""Now away from Emacs, or mobile apps.""" start="00:18:25.840" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""enough so that people don't have to invent extensions to Org""" start="00:18:55.800" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""like what happened to Markdown.""" start="00:19:00.600" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""I want to see more Org parsers in different""" start="00:19:09.543" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""It is the official Org syntax,""" start="00:19:27.268" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template new="1" text="""Long-standing syntax problems""" start="00:20:23.869" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""just as we do with special blocks, basically.""" start="00:22:43.334" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""What I want to introduce is the ability to do it""" start="00:22:47.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""on a macro level or inline.""" start="00:22:51.062" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""It's very frequently requested as well,""" start="00:23:01.065" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""We had a discussion about this in previous""" start="00:23:07.008" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""how it could be and we just need patches to be submitted,""" start="00:23:19.141" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""here even the idea of syntax is not clear.""" start="00:23:22.666" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Please do participate in these discussions""" start="00:23:25.611" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""if you have ideas.""" start="00:23:26.772" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template new="1" text="""New features I hope to see in Org""" start="00:23:30.503" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""The last direction is the""" start="00:23:30.503" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""many people are aware about it, is the asynchronous LaTeX""" start="00:23:48.560" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""finalized eventually and upstreamed. It's pretty much in""" start="00:23:55.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""It's just a question of free time for Adam mostly, I think,""" start="00:24:17.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""same as many packages for blog posts, so that you have a""" start="00:24:30.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""to the mailing list.""" start="00:27:13.026" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template new="1" text="""Org mailing list - world""" start="00:27:17.160" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""Of course, not everyone likes to use mailing lists""" start="00:27:17.160" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""Again, I cannot emphasize more that most of the Org ideas of""" start="00:30:05.580" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""I would like to end my talk with the call for contributions.""" start="00:31:01.520" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Let me explain a little bit, because you saw now I shared many""" start="00:31:08.440" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""many ideas and I do spend a lot of time on Org Mode. In fact,""" start="00:31:13.640" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""for the last year, I was spending like""" start="00:31:19.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""30 hours per week or something.""" start="00:31:21.323" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Until recently, I can spend a bit less, but still""" start="00:31:23.438" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""even with that much of commitment,""" start="00:31:27.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""there is no way I can handle""" start="00:31:29.901" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""everything by myself.""" start="00:31:31.480" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Contribute code!""" start="00:31:35.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""We really, really need more people to contribute""" start="00:31:35.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""so that Org mode keeps moving forward.""" start="00:31:38.552" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Again, I just shared ideas,""" start="00:31:43.634" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but I have so many more.""" start="00:31:45.080" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I have more than a thousand ideas noted down.""" start="00:31:46.395" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Yeah, there's no way I can do it myself.""" start="00:31:48.735" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I do need help for new contributions, for new features.""" start="00:31:52.637" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If someone can help fixing bugs, it would be really great.""" start="00:31:57.351" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If someone knows specialized things,""" start="00:31:57.618" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""like for example Open Document Format,""" start="00:32:04.292" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""which I don't know very well, it would be""" start="00:32:06.874" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""really nice, because things like ODT export requires""" start="00:32:08.760" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""knowing that, and if someone already has the knowledge,""" start="00:32:13.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it would be much easier""" start="00:32:14.090" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""if that person can help with such things.""" start="00:32:18.082" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Although in the coming years,""" start="00:32:23.481" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it's very important to have""" start="00:32:26.869" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""regular contributors""" start="00:32:28.160" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""because my life is my life""" start="00:32:28.831" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and things may happen,""" start="00:32:31.922" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""so it would be nice to have some kind of backup""" start="00:32:34.364" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""so that bugs keep being fixed""" start="00:32:37.245" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and things like patches being accepted""" start="00:32:40.245" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and stuff like that,""" start="00:32:40.246" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""so that some person can at least""" start="00:32:44.568" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""temporarily take on my job.""" start="00:32:46.169" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I would like to emphasize""" start="00:32:49.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""that the code contributors are the most""" start="00:32:51.511" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""important contributions for Org Mode.""" start="00:32:53.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""All other types are less important, really.""" start="00:32:56.213" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Why contribute?""" start="00:33:02.080" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""I want to spend a couple of slides""" start="00:33:02.080" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""trying to motivate you to contribute.""" start="00:33:03.960" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If you ever considered contributing""" start="00:33:07.720" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""or if you ever wished to have some""" start="00:33:11.129" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""feature in Org Mode, really don't wait, because""" start="00:33:13.360" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""most new features are contributed by people.""" start="00:33:16.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""They are not contributed by me.""" start="00:33:18.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I contribute a few things, but I am alone.""" start="00:33:23.737" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I cannot contribute many things.""" start="00:33:25.200" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Most of the things are contributed by users""" start="00:33:27.039" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""who go ahead and submit patches.""" start="00:33:30.301" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""And even in very commonly requested features,""" start="00:33:33.442" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it's usually someone who steps up.""" start="00:33:37.324" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If you want something, don't wait.""" start="00:33:40.345" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Just go ahead and write to mailing list.""" start="00:33:42.200" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""You don't have to submit a patch immediately.""" start="00:33:44.207" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""You can just say, I am interested.""" start="00:33:46.208" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""We will start from there.""" start="00:33:48.730" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""We'll start because that's my job""" start="00:33:53.820" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and I will guide you through.""" start="00:33:56.044" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If you have problems with Org in general,""" start="00:33:57.645" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I'll explain, because that's what I know.""" start="00:33:58.991" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I will explain how to implement things better,""" start="00:34:02.309" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but I need someone to actually do""" start="00:34:05.031" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the job and write the code.""" start="00:34:07.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Even if you don't have 10 years experience with Elisp,""" start="00:34:10.071" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it doesn't matter. You can learn on the way.""" start="00:34:19.058" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""There are many examples of this in the""" start="00:34:21.179" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""mailing list when we start slowly,""" start="00:34:22.520" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""fix things one by one, and""" start="00:34:25.643" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""eventually arrive to a good quality""" start="00:34:27.760" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""when the person is not experienced.""" start="00:34:29.226" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""You just need to be ready to learn things,""" start="00:34:31.708" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Spend your free time (that's as usual, right?),""" start="00:34:34.760" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and have the interest in specific thing""" start="00:34:37.993" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""you are contributing.""" start="00:34:41.215" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Don't be afraid to be wrong.""" start="00:34:43.500" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I will be there to assist.""" start="00:34:44.476" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If you don't like emails,""" start="00:34:47.579" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""if you don't like patches, it doesn't matter.""" start="00:34:48.938" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Again, you can share GitHub link. It's okay.""" start="00:34:51.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""You can go and modify some workflow directly.""" start="00:34:55.362" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""You submit the modified version. It's also okay.""" start="00:34:57.685" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""It's easy for me to create patches if I need to.""" start="00:34:59.566" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If you don't like emails at all, you don't want to""" start="00:35:05.120" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""participate in the mailing list, it's not ideal, but I can""" start="00:35:07.280" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""still work with this. I am on IRC, I am on Matrix,""" start="00:35:11.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""you can ping me, it's yantar2.""" start="00:35:16.006" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""We also have monthly meetup,""" start="00:35:19.800" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""so you can go and ask by voice,""" start="00:35:22.348" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""we can just talk in person, discuss your ideas,""" start="00:35:23.988" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it's also fine.""" start="00:35:27.089" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""The key point is that we always welcome new contributors.""" start="00:35:29.300" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""The more contributions to Org Mode is better.""" start="00:35:35.160" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Benefits for code contributors""" start="00:35:40.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""To increase the motivation,""" start="00:35:40.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I'll just try to show some benefits""" start="00:35:41.520" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""of contributing to Org Mode and free software in general.""" start="00:35:44.920" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""It can be actually useful for your CV if you're a programmer.""" start="00:35:49.480" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""It doesn't matter if it's Lisp, because you can have a pet""" start="00:35:52.080" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""project that demonstrates your skills, that you can finish""" start="00:35:55.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""something to a usable state.""" start="00:35:59.040" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""A pet project usually demonstrates""" start="00:36:04.360" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""that you can work alone, but it doesn't""" start="00:36:06.801" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""demonstrate anything about you working in a team, in the""" start="00:36:08.840" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""production team. When you contribute to""" start="00:36:12.120" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Libre software, look,""" start="00:36:15.520" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""you will work with a number of people""" start="00:36:17.630" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""who contribute and comment on your work.""" start="00:36:20.760" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""You'll have to learn a new code base.""" start="00:36:24.353" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""You will have to follow certain standards.""" start="00:36:27.074" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""All these things, by having a public record""" start="00:36:30.076" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""of contribution, will be a valid point that proves your""" start="00:36:33.240" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""knowledge in your CV. I put a small quote""" start="00:36:37.560" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""(which I'm not going to read in the interest of time)""" start="00:36:42.088" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""from Rudolf Adamkovič,""" start="00:36:44.870" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""who is describing these three points in probably a""" start="00:36:46.280" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""more expressive way.""" start="00:36:50.160" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Another benefit is you can actually get money from this.""" start="00:36:56.520" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Thanks to a number of Org Mode users who kindly contribute to""" start="00:36:59.940" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Org development, we have some amount of money""" start="00:37:04.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""coming in, and we don't hold on this money.""" start="00:37:07.200" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If we get another person who contributes""" start="00:37:11.010" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""to Org regularly, we are happy to share this money,""" start="00:37:13.551" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""because we do know that""" start="00:37:17.512" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""getting some extra money, even a little bit,""" start="00:37:22.540" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""does improve motivation.""" start="00:37:24.600" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""We are really ready to share this.""" start="00:37:27.217" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If you are serious about contributing,""" start="00:37:29.159" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""you can just request this""" start="00:37:33.524" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and we can share a part of the donations to you.""" start="00:37:34.920" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Contributing as non-programmer""" start="00:37:41.420" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""For non-programmers, we also have a lot of work to do.""" start="00:37:41.420" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""There's a lot of stuff we can do on the Org wiki,""" start="00:37:45.200" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""especially with CSS styles,""" start="00:37:47.093" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""with updating articles,""" start="00:37:48.755" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""with adding links to tutorials,""" start="00:37:53.179" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""or even writing tutorials about Org Mode.""" start="00:37:54.881" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""It would be nice to have more screencasts.""" start="00:37:56.223" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""It would be nice to improve Org manual,""" start="00:38:01.082" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""because that's the most difficult part for me""" start="00:38:02.703" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""because I'm too familiar with the code.""" start="00:38:05.284" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Writing the manual when you know things internally""" start="00:38:07.326" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""is very hard. I just know too many things.""" start="00:38:11.227" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I can assume that people know too much,""" start="00:38:13.728" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""that new users have no idea about certain things.""" start="00:38:16.810" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I can just omit those without being aware.""" start="00:38:20.912" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Got no free time, but still want to help?""" start="00:38:30.440" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""The final slide I would go to come back is about""" start="00:38:30.440" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""donations. Again, most important is contributing code,""" start="00:38:33.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but I do hope that donations can""" start="00:38:37.920" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""increase the number of contributors.""" start="00:38:42.880" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I don't know. I know for sure because some""" start="00:38:45.446" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""people like Timothy, who is participating in this, he did""" start="00:38:48.000" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""find the donations helpful, especially for more boring""" start="00:38:52.440" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""tasks like bug fixing and to move things""" start="00:38:55.320" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""over the long time. If you cannot contribute by other means,""" start="00:39:00.080" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it would be appreciated to contribute money.""" start="00:39:07.836" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template new="1" text="""Thank you""" start="00:39:12.997" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
+[[!template text="""We came to the end of my talk.""" start="00:39:12.997" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Thank you for your attention.""" start="00:39:14.818" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.""" start="00:39:16.278" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I think we can even discuss further""" start="00:39:19.699" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""during the next Org Meetup in the coming week.""" start="00:39:22.899" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""There, if you have more detailed questions,""" start="00:39:28.181" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""we can continue discussing""" start="00:39:30.321" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""apart from what happens after this presentation.""" start="00:39:31.641" video="mainVideo-org-update" id="subtitle"]]
+
Questions or comments? Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20org-update%3A%20The%20Future%20of%20Org)
diff --git a/2024/info/org-update-before.md b/2024/info/org-update-before.md
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@@ -8,12 +8,42 @@ The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2024-12-07.
Format: 41-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room <https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/current/bbb-org-update.html> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2024-org-update>
Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2024-org-update>
Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-gen](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen)
-Status: Quality check
+Status: Now playing on the conference livestream
<div>Times in different time zones:</div><div class="times" start="2024-12-07T15:20:00Z" end="2024-12-07T16:00:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Saturday, Dec 7 2024, ~10:20 AM - 11:00 AM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Saturday, Dec 7 2024, ~9:20 AM - 10:00 AM CST (US/Central)<br />Saturday, Dec 7 2024, ~8:20 AM - 9:00 AM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Saturday, Dec 7 2024, ~7:20 AM - 8:00 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Saturday, Dec 7 2024, ~3:20 PM - 4:00 PM UTC <br />Saturday, Dec 7 2024, ~4:20 PM - 5:00 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Saturday, Dec 7 2024, ~5:20 PM - 6:00 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Saturday, Dec 7 2024, ~8:50 PM - 9:30 PM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Saturday, Dec 7 2024, ~11:20 PM - 12:00 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Sunday, Dec 8 2024, ~12:20 AM - 1:00 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2024/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div>
+<div class="vid"><video controls preload="none" id="org-update-mainVideo"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2024/captions/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2024/captions/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="org-update-mainVideo" data="""
+00:00.000 Introduction
+01:14.280 Message from Bastien Guerry
+03:15.920 My step-by-step journey to Org maintenance
+05:09.241 Priorities for Org maintenance
+08:11.767 Modular Org
+08:41.590 Slim down large Org libraries
+10:00.000 Upstream generic Org libraries
+11:25.400 Use modern Emacs APIs and libraries
+13:13.257 Improve Org parser APIs
+14:45.731 Improve Org babel APIs
+15:57.380 Beyond Org code and Emacs: third-party packages, apps, parsers
+16:31.200 org-contrib
+17:37.820 Org orphanage
+18:25.840 Mobile apps and parsers
+20:23.869 Long-standing syntax problems
+21:56.240 New syntax features
+23:30.503 New features I hope to see in Org
+25:54.073 Org community
+26:01.358 Org community forums - Org mailing list
+27:17.160 Org mailing list - world
+30:05.580 Contribute ideas!
+31:01.520 How much can a single person do?
+31:35.000 Contribute code!
+33:02.080 Why contribute?
+35:40.240 Benefits for code contributors
+37:41.420 Contributing as non-programmer
+38:30.440 Got no free time, but still want to help?
+39:12.997 Thank you
+"""]]<div></div>Duration: 40:01 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2024-org-update">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/current/bbb-org-update.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-org-update--the-future-of-org--ihor-radchenko--main.webm">Download --main.webm (88MB)</a></li></ul></div></div>
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