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 # Discussion
 
+BBB:
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+- agreed, I appreciate that the list isn't split. 
+  - vastly simplifies workflows.
+- Wouldn't they be missing the key part, Emacs?
+- (ah, i understood forking for a different toolset, vs markdown-based org-mode on Emacs, apologies)
+- Bastien Guerry: <https://list.orgmode.org/87y2jvkeql.fsf@gnu.org/>
+- devil's advocate to Karl's point now though: is that from habit?
+- link syntax in markdown is impossible to remember
+  - plain orgmode is easy to visualize. with markdown you need to export this if you have many md lines. org tables is a clear example of the visualization
+- I think the argument of the best syntax is a hard battle to fight, but where the bar is clear is the software (org-mode) and what it can do with it, as of today. for simplifying e.g. keyword syntax can be made regular. consistency across levels is extremely hard due to interactions between features, in part because you only encounter those much later in implementation. another part of the issue is that Org has more features than pandoc markdown so it is sometimes unrepresentable.
+- interestingly Timothy has solved most of the markdown -&gt; org
+- FYI org-sidebar provides a backlinks tool
+- Backlinks! Yes!
+- Backlinks for me: <https://karl-voit.at/2020/07/22/org-super-links/>
+- was going to say : many of the org-roam features should make their way into core org-mode eventually
+- how to manage and cache other types of data that are similar to backlinks
+- something like org-id caching, you mean?
+- alphapapa: not quite, more things that we don't want to put in the org file directly
+- e.g. babel caches for huge pieces of data
+- id caching for performance would be great, some of the vizualisation things are very interesting too
+- it is a hard problem
+- Thank you for taking the time to share your accumulated wisdom with us, Bastien :)
+- Thanks Bastien!
+- thank you!
+- merci Bastien!
+- Bastien Guerry: Bye all !
+
+IRC:
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 - I love it when people just kick it old school and write things out.
 - the spiderman syndrome is evil. it causes imposter syndrome that god knows how many contributors it has cost us
 - excellent analysis on bdfl/spidysyndrome, you can see it play out in other communities as well