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+WEBVTT
+
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+Nice to have you here on this talk.
+
+00:00:02.320 --> 00:00:04.519
+This is my second talk this year.
+
+00:00:04.520 --> 00:00:09.919
+First one was on things that I've done to Org Mode.
+
+00:00:09.920 --> 00:00:13.799
+Just as a side note, this presentation
+
+00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:16.279
+that I'm going to share with you
+
+00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.879
+about my work on Corfu and Jasnipit.
+
+00:00:19.880 --> 00:00:21.839
+I've prepared that on Org Mode
+
+00:00:21.840 --> 00:00:25.079
+and exported that with a work I've been doing
+
+00:00:25.080 --> 00:00:26.839
+to the latest exporter.
+
+00:00:26.840 --> 00:00:31.959
+Anyhow, what is my talk going to be about?
+
+00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:34.599
+It's going to be about Corfu and Yasnippet,
+
+00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:36.599
+which I thought would be difficult to integrate,
+
+00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:42.799
+and it was much easier than I thought.
+
+00:00:42.800 --> 00:00:46.959
+So just a short outline, my motivation,
+
+00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:49.959
+step-by-step of the things that I've been investigating,
+
+00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:55.919
+and some takeaways. So my motivation, yeah, snippet is old.
+
+00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:59.599
+So I've tried another, I've tried Temple
+
+00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.519
+and other template management packages,
+
+00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:08.159
+but it was really not my cup of tea. So mainly why?
+
+00:01:08.160 --> 00:01:10.919
+Mainly because I have a nice base of VR snippets
+
+00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:14.479
+I have generated for my needs.
+
+00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.799
+So it's not that I've been importing snippets
+
+00:01:17.800 --> 00:01:20.359
+from packages which are out there.
+
+00:01:20.360 --> 00:01:23.599
+No, they are my snippets. I'm used to them.
+
+00:01:23.600 --> 00:01:26.559
+And of course, migration counts as a cost.
+
+00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:32.639
+I've been using Company as my completion point function GUI for years,
+
+00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:38.919
+but with the time coming in features and so on it
+
+00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:44.359
+was it's was not as easy to set up as I wanted for my needs
+
+00:01:44.360 --> 00:01:53.119
+so I had been working I've been playing with Eaglet already some time for a language server protocol
+
+00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:57.039
+I had read about how easy it was to integrate with Corfu
+
+00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:02.839
+which was really nice and I had given it a try,
+
+00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:06.439
+but I'm using both graphical user interface mode in Emacs
+
+00:02:06.440 --> 00:02:07.839
+and text mode,
+
+00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.319
+and for text mode you need a corporate terminal,
+
+00:02:10.320 --> 00:02:16.399
+which was yet another package that I don't download.
+
+00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:21.479
+Well, and I didn't really find a quick way
+
+00:02:21.480 --> 00:02:24.479
+to get rid of company to get just snippet.
+
+00:02:24.480 --> 00:02:26.679
+So at the end, when, at the beginning,
+
+00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:33.959
+when I was using Corfu and Eglot, I also needed to load a company
+
+00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:35.759
+to have a snippet support,
+
+00:02:35.760 --> 00:02:37.639
+which was really like sort of weird
+
+00:02:37.640 --> 00:02:40.559
+because I wanted to get rid of, of your snippet.
+
+00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:47.199
+Anyhow, while I try now, I'm following the mailing list,
+
+00:02:47.200 --> 00:02:48.559
+the development mailing list,
+
+00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:51.799
+and I got interested when I heard something about
+
+00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:57.119
+TTI charge frames being announced for master.
+
+00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.599
+That would mean less packages to download
+
+00:02:59.600 --> 00:03:04.159
+because I thought I could get rid of Corfu,
+
+00:03:04.160 --> 00:03:07.359
+and I wanted to try if I could get rid of Corfu terminal
+
+00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:11.199
+and run Corfu without that.
+
+00:03:11.200 --> 00:03:18.799
+So, there were some hints there in that mailing list
+
+00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.879
+that made it interesting for me.
+
+00:03:21.880 --> 00:03:26.639
+And at the end, I'm also like a why not trying man,
+
+00:03:26.640 --> 00:03:29.119
+so I said let's give it a try.
+
+00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:33.479
+My requirements, I'm working always on a new Emacs,
+
+00:03:33.480 --> 00:03:36.759
+a decently new Emacs, normally from Master Vanilla.
+
+00:03:36.760 --> 00:03:42.559
+completely Vanilla and I don't have any extras like Doom or things like that.
+
+00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:45.519
+So I'm only Vanilla. And one of the things
+
+00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:50.279
+that I don't want is that on this Vanilla recent Emacs,
+
+00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:55.719
+I don't want a Kung Fu Terminal. I need your snippet.
+
+00:03:55.720 --> 00:03:57.359
+I'm basically an old man.
+
+00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:02.479
+Old dog does new tricks and snippets must,
+
+00:04:02.480 --> 00:04:06.239
+in my way of working, must be easy and quick to configure
+
+00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:10.479
+and Tempo or others that I've seen are not.
+
+00:04:10.480 --> 00:04:13.919
+I don't want any reminiscence of a company in my setup.
+
+00:04:13.920 --> 00:04:18.679
+And of course, don't forget that I've embraced
+
+00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:24.119
+the language protocol implementations and basically Eglot.
+
+00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:28.159
+My main focus now is Python and LaTeX,
+
+00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.719
+and I have PyLSB and TechLab.
+
+00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:37.599
+And I don't want to have to stop using them.
+
+00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:40.479
+So basic setup for Corfu and Eglot.
+
+00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.439
+You can find it everywhere you look for it.
+
+00:04:43.440 --> 00:04:46.559
+It's really easy.
+
+00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:51.119
+And actually, I also do something somehow naughty,
+
+00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.079
+which is to set this variable,
+
+00:04:53.080 --> 00:04:55.519
+the Corfu auto variable to true,
+
+00:04:55.520 --> 00:04:58.399
+although I know it's not recommended, blah, blah, blah.
+
+00:04:58.400 --> 00:05:02.959
+But I use that because I'm a bit lazy in that.
+
+00:05:02.960 --> 00:05:07.239
+So next step was looking at completion at point functions.
+
+00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:10.479
+So the information there if you go through the scatter
+
+00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.999
+and sometimes a bit cryptic.
+
+00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:16.599
+At the end I came up with something like the thing
+
+00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:18.399
+that you see there on the screen.
+
+00:05:18.400 --> 00:05:21.879
+So it's a function for just completion point
+
+00:05:21.880 --> 00:05:24.639
+so I need my list of keywords
+
+00:05:24.640 --> 00:05:30.039
+so that I'm going to be talking later
+
+00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:34.399
+and I have my bounds which is normally a word
+
+00:05:34.400 --> 00:05:37.119
+and from that I get the start and the end
+
+00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:38.919
+of the of the thing that I want to
+
+00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:47.319
+that I want to be my seed for looking and bringing up Corfu
+
+00:05:47.320 --> 00:05:53.439
+and of course I need some completion properties here
+
+00:05:53.440 --> 00:05:55.719
+This looked like this is what you need to do,
+
+00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:57.519
+but I had to dig quite deep
+
+00:05:57.520 --> 00:06:01.319
+to create a JavaScript keyword test
+
+00:06:01.320 --> 00:06:04.759
+and to understand the completion props.
+
+00:06:04.760 --> 00:06:11.759
+And as an update of what I've been doing in the last weeks,
+
+00:06:11.760 --> 00:06:13.879
+I've created a bound of things
+
+00:06:13.880 --> 00:06:18.679
+that point for me with a different thing
+
+00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:22.039
+that doesn't skip over non-blank characters,
+
+00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:25.039
+that only skips over non-blank characters.
+
+00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:28.999
+Why? Because Word was confusingly tech,
+
+00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:30.759
+because the backslash,
+
+00:06:30.760 --> 00:06:34.999
+like in the example for the teletype text,
+
+00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:36.919
+was not taken into account by Word.
+
+00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:39.959
+So I had to create my own one,
+
+00:06:39.960 --> 00:06:42.119
+which was a bunch of thing at point,
+
+00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:44.879
+and then my thing is non-blanks.
+
+00:06:44.880 --> 00:06:53.239
+Completion at point properties, what are they?
+
+00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.039
+They allow Emacs to know how to handle the information
+
+00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:57.879
+for a specific completion time.
+
+00:06:57.880 --> 00:07:02.319
+So you normally will have an annotation,
+
+00:07:02.320 --> 00:07:08.519
+which then can disappear if you use NerdIconScoreFull.
+
+00:07:08.520 --> 00:07:11.839
+which is what I'm doing currently,
+
+00:07:11.840 --> 00:07:17.559
+but I keep it commented just in case I get tired of Corfu
+
+00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.079
+and I want to have my completion function.
+
+00:07:20.080 --> 00:07:26.759
+Then the company kind is actually not something
+
+00:07:26.760 --> 00:07:30.999
+that comes from the company package, but does not require.
+
+00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:39.439
+And that's going to allow NerdEye Conscorfu to identify
+
+00:07:39.440 --> 00:07:44.839
+and put the right icon there in the completion list,
+
+00:07:44.840 --> 00:07:47.159
+as you will see in a couple of minutes.
+
+00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:50.439
+So it's a snippet key.
+
+00:07:50.440 --> 00:07:52.599
+So basically what this is telling you
+
+00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:54.319
+is that this is a snippet keyword.
+
+00:07:54.320 --> 00:07:56.799
+These two lines, either line,
+
+00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.999
+tell you that this is a snippet keyword.
+
+00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:05.279
+And that it should be added to the other completions
+
+00:08:05.280 --> 00:08:08.079
+that you already have in your list.
+
+00:08:08.080 --> 00:08:15.479
+Problems looking now next step
+
+00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:19.079
+once I had the completion props
+
+00:08:19.080 --> 00:08:21.439
+which was relatively easy was to go
+
+00:08:21.440 --> 00:08:24.399
+and get the keyword list right.
+
+00:08:24.400 --> 00:08:27.199
+I've been looking at pre-existing solutions
+
+00:08:27.200 --> 00:08:29.319
+like for example how the menu
+
+00:08:29.320 --> 00:08:34.399
+is built in by your snippet and it looked a bit like Mission Impossible.
+
+00:08:34.400 --> 00:08:40.439
+because the approach by all the things
+
+00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.199
+that I have seen and I have examined
+
+00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.639
+is to get the keys and the names
+
+00:08:45.640 --> 00:08:50.799
+and then further process them.
+
+00:08:50.800 --> 00:08:55.279
+My take was, do I really need both?
+
+00:08:55.280 --> 00:08:58.159
+At the end, if I use my own snippets,
+
+00:08:58.160 --> 00:09:00.439
+I'm going to be using something
+
+00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:02.559
+I would call meaningful keys for them
+
+00:09:02.560 --> 00:09:06.359
+or at least meaningful for these keys are meaningful for me
+
+00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:07.679
+and I try not to repeat them
+
+00:09:07.680 --> 00:09:09.959
+because it makes little sense to repeat a keyword.
+
+00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.919
+So why not center everything around the keys only
+
+00:09:13.920 --> 00:09:18.879
+and can that help simplify my code?
+
+00:09:18.880 --> 00:09:23.639
+So I started to dive into your snippet
+
+00:09:23.640 --> 00:09:27.319
+and I found a lot of useful semi-hidden functions there.
+
+00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:30.679
+I discovered that getting the list
+
+00:09:30.680 --> 00:09:34.959
+the list of keys for a given mode was not that difficult.
+
+00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:40.079
+And at the end what I started doing
+
+00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:47.079
+is get all the snipple tables used by a major mode
+
+00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:52.399
+and get the lists of the keys that you have in each table.
+
+00:09:52.400 --> 00:09:55.839
+Sometimes the list is empty
+
+00:09:55.840 --> 00:10:01.959
+so it's going to return a nil and that you have to discard.
+
+00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:05.999
+When you're using structured snippets
+
+00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.919
+like snippets and submenus and so on
+
+00:10:08.920 --> 00:10:12.359
+to get a structured menu,
+
+00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:14.999
+you also get some non-strings that you need to filter out
+
+00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.999
+in order to get a workable keyword list.
+
+00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:24.879
+At the end of the day, what I had was something like this.
+
+00:10:24.880 --> 00:10:30.959
+I have, for a mode, I went through all modes.
+
+00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:37.159
+through all modes associated to that and then I went
+
+00:10:37.160 --> 00:10:42.519
+I got my results from all the tables that I had
+
+00:10:42.520 --> 00:10:45.279
+for a for a given time for a given table
+
+00:10:45.280 --> 00:10:48.079
+so what you do is you get your the tables
+
+00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:53.119
+that are associated to a mode because surprise surprise
+
+00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:55.958
+Some modes have more than one table,
+
+00:10:55.959 --> 00:11:00.917
+and then what you do is you filter out all non strings
+
+00:11:00.918 --> 00:11:07.719
+from each of the keys list that you have for each table.
+
+00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:12.679
+So as you see, it's a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 liner,
+
+00:11:12.680 --> 00:11:14.319
+which was not too much.
+
+00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:20.039
+By the way, if someone from Yasnippet is around,
+
+00:11:20.040 --> 00:11:26.959
+I sent a pull request to include this
+
+00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:28.999
+as a public function in Yasnipit
+
+00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:32.319
+because it might be nice to have it in a packet
+
+00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:33.840
+in order to do this kind of things.
+
+00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:41.239
+So fine-tuning I just adding a yes completion
+
+00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:44.719
+to the completion point functions was not enough
+
+00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:46.799
+I don't really know
+
+00:11:46.800 --> 00:11:51.199
+but exclusive node didn't seem to work how I wanted
+
+00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:57.399
+so I needed to escape sorry yeah I was saying I was getting rid of packages
+
+00:11:57.400 --> 00:12:00.999
+and I had to add one package
+
+00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:04.479
+in order to get a function which is very very nice
+
+00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:08.919
+and which is part of the cape function of the cape package
+
+00:12:08.920 --> 00:12:12.799
+and that's cape cap super.
+
+00:12:12.800 --> 00:12:16.439
+So at the end using that you define an alias
+
+00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:23.199
+which for that where you use cape cap super
+
+00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.799
+to have a list of what you want
+
+00:12:25.800 --> 00:12:29.079
+so in this case for example for the demo
+
+00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:32.759
+I'm going to make I'm using yes completion
+
+00:12:32.760 --> 00:12:37.719
+and then the elisp completion point function provided by Emacs.
+
+00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:43.999
+I combine them using cape cap super
+
+00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.679
+and with that I create a completion point
+
+00:12:47.680 --> 00:12:53.159
+a new completion point function which I call cape list mode
+
+00:12:53.160 --> 00:12:58.480
+and then I add this alias to the completion functions list
+
+00:12:58.520 --> 00:13:05.719
+and with that it is enough snippet expansion
+
+00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:14.479
+if you want to have your snippets expanded automatically,
+
+00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:27.999
+you have to add an exit function to the, I'm sorry,
+
+00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:30.879
+to the completion properties
+
+00:13:30.880 --> 00:13:34.119
+yet another functionality you have to add
+
+00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:39.199
+and to avoid this automatic selection to be too eager
+
+00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.319
+you need to add this set corfu
+
+00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:48.599
+on exact match to nil because otherwise
+
+00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.839
+you will always get the snippet expanded
+
+00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.039
+even if you don't want it Basically why?
+
+00:13:55.040 --> 00:13:57.639
+Basically because this would be suboptimal
+
+00:13:57.640 --> 00:14:05.359
+because the key can appear as part of a variable name.
+
+00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:10.599
+Another nice thing, I'm also creating my own themes.
+
+00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:13.759
+I'm trying to have very sleek themes
+
+00:14:13.760 --> 00:14:16.839
+that only cover the modes that I use
+
+00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:22.959
+and for that I have my own theme creator fork
+
+00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.959
+from the original team creator.
+
+00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:31.719
+In my personal work that I'm running at home,
+
+00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:34.159
+I only have the faces for the modes I use.
+
+00:14:34.160 --> 00:14:38.159
+I don't want to overload the thing
+
+00:14:38.160 --> 00:14:41.839
+with too much different things.
+
+00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:45.999
+Looking at this, I really didn't need, as you will see now,
+
+00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.079
+I don't need to add anything to my themes
+
+00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:53.279
+because the default faces for Corfu
+
+00:14:53.280 --> 00:14:58.319
+adapt quite well to most of the themes.
+
+00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:02.839
+So if I go back to my checklist decently remax yes
+
+00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:06.559
+compiled the one you'll see
+
+00:15:06.560 --> 00:15:09.239
+for the for in the demo I'm doing is a master
+
+00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.999
+compiled the day before yesterday
+
+00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:15.199
+so and I don't need Corfu terminal there.
+
+00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:16.559
+I need your snippet,
+
+00:15:16.560 --> 00:15:20.159
+and you're going to see that in a second
+
+00:15:20.160 --> 00:15:24.439
+with a couple of snippets that I can expand here.
+
+00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:27.479
+I don't want any reminiscence of a company in my setup,
+
+00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:32.119
+and there's none. Well, actually, company kind is there
+
+00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:33.719
+you see the company there
+
+00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:39.559
+but it isn't if I buy companies strictly speaking
+
+00:15:39.560 --> 00:15:44.679
+and for I don't want I need Eglot integration
+
+00:15:44.680 --> 00:15:50.400
+which I will also be showing you. Takeaways from all this,
+
+00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:55.279
+if you accept the extra burden
+
+00:15:55.280 --> 00:16:02.239
+of Corfu terminal for Emacs 30 or earlier Emacs 30s,
+
+00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:07.559
+it's not too difficult to get this set up running.
+
+00:16:07.560 --> 00:16:11.759
+Corfu was easier to integrate and configure than Company,
+
+00:16:11.760 --> 00:16:13.799
+and it's much lighter in terms
+
+00:16:13.800 --> 00:16:20.039
+of number of lines, et cetera. I learned a lot.
+
+00:16:20.040 --> 00:16:25.159
+Well, actually, yes, with the help of Cape,
+
+00:16:25.160 --> 00:16:27.399
+but it is much lighter and much easier
+
+00:16:27.400 --> 00:16:30.119
+to integrate and configure.
+
+00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:34.879
+I've learned a lot about computational functions in the process,
+
+00:16:34.880 --> 00:16:40.439
+which is, something that is always nice to learn new things
+
+00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:45.039
+and the Nerd Icons Corfu makes the
+
+00:16:45.040 --> 00:16:48.319
+at least at this point in time I might get tired of it
+
+00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:50.399
+but at this point in time it makes
+
+00:16:50.400 --> 00:16:53.679
+a makes a very nice overall look
+
+00:16:53.680 --> 00:16:58.039
+and look and feel for for Emacs.
+
+00:16:58.040 --> 00:17:02.039
+requests to whom it may concern cape has nice features
+
+00:17:02.040 --> 00:17:06.279
+that maybe could make their way into emacs
+
+00:17:06.280 --> 00:17:09.159
+i'm thinking basically about this cape super fun
+
+00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:12.399
+uh super function super cape function functionality
+
+00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:18.799
+which is very nice and overcomes the problem of linking
+
+00:17:18.800 --> 00:17:22.239
+and this exclusive and all this kind of things
+
+00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:26.479
+that we have currently in Corfu
+
+00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:28.439
+with the computational point functions.
+
+00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:32.959
+Corfu is also really nice to have and it's not too big
+
+00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:35.559
+so is there any possibility
+
+00:17:35.560 --> 00:17:40.079
+that it makes its way into Emacs?
+
+00:17:40.080 --> 00:17:42.399
+Please keep Yarn Snippet alive.
+
+00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:48.559
+I'm not saying here that my pull request should be there,
+
+00:17:48.560 --> 00:17:51.559
+but it would be nice if someone took a look
+
+00:17:51.560 --> 00:17:57.399
+and made it part of Yarn Snippet.
+
+00:17:57.400 --> 00:18:01.799
+And PS, currently on master,
+
+00:18:01.800 --> 00:18:07.799
+there's a lot of semantic highlighting going on,
+
+00:18:07.800 --> 00:18:13.719
+which is very, very nice. No criticism on that.
+
+00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:19.639
+but you may need to add to your snippet hook
+
+00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:25.039
+this simple local value for ElixirFontify semantically
+
+00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:30.719
+because at least in my case I felt that
+
+00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:32.439
+the face were a bit too pushy
+
+00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:37.280
+so I had to make a snippet mode
+
+00:18:37.334 --> 00:18:41.279
+use the old Emacs Lisp fontification.
+
+00:18:41.280 --> 00:18:46.279
+That's what we want to talk about.
+
+00:18:46.280 --> 00:18:54.999
+Any initial reactions to this? There's a question here.
+
+00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:59.159
+Someone asked, did you try Jasnepet Cup?
+
+00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:05.959
+If so, what did you miss from this approach? I tried that.
+
+00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:11.239
+And it's not that I missed anything.
+
+00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:16.519
+It was more or less that I wanted to do it myself.
+
+00:19:16.520 --> 00:19:24.159
+So I wanted to see what was behind it. That's my answer.
+
+00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:26.679
+There are lots of packages there,
+
+00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:31.719
+but I try to keep learning. So, this was a nice objective
+
+00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:40.159
+to learn a bit more about Emacs. And now, just a second.
+
+00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:44.879
+Now, a small demo. This is the interaction.
+
+00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:47.199
+And as you see, I have the snippet there.
+
+00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:52.879
+and I have a couple of snippets.
+
+00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:55.839
+So, for example, if I would like to say
+
+00:19:55.840 --> 00:19:58.879
+I want to define a function, I can go like this.
+
+00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:00.519
+And what you see here is that
+
+00:20:00.520 --> 00:20:04.319
+I have two snippets appearing and then some variables.
+
+00:20:04.320 --> 00:20:09.879
+So, I could go for def one or if I want a key map, for def key map,
+
+00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:11.479
+which would be something like this.
+
+00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:18.319
+And then when I press enter, I get directly into the map
+
+00:20:18.320 --> 00:20:26.719
+and I could say like, Show off mob.
+
+00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.079
+Then it sets out directly a prefix T,
+
+00:20:30.080 --> 00:20:35.039
+which is something that I asked for in Emacs master.
+
+00:20:35.040 --> 00:20:39.479
+So with prefix T, for those who prefix it true,
+
+00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:41.399
+for those who don't know it,
+
+00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:46.799
+it makes integrating this into keymaps in use package much easier.
+
+00:20:46.800 --> 00:20:51.119
+So the next thing would be
+
+00:20:51.120 --> 00:20:55.999
+I would like to write a description
+
+00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:04.999
+like for example a cool show off team up
+
+00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:08.599
+and then my keys are my functions and that would be it
+
+00:21:08.600 --> 00:21:15.839
+but you also have like but also have like this define function
+
+00:21:15.840 --> 00:21:21.679
+and of course you can say that's nice but there's no
+
+00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:23.799
+but you're not showing the integration
+
+00:21:23.800 --> 00:21:25.439
+with Eglot and you're right.
+
+00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:30.279
+So I'm going just to open up a small program
+
+00:21:30.280 --> 00:21:33.319
+that I'm currently developing in Python.
+
+00:21:33.320 --> 00:21:38.239
+X is a tool to do things in MP3.
+
+00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:42.279
+And here I would have like all these things.
+
+00:21:42.280 --> 00:21:45.359
+As you see here in the bottom,
+
+00:21:45.360 --> 00:21:49.079
+service running, pilot is local, eglot is active.
+
+00:21:49.080 --> 00:21:57.919
+So I have my eglot stop and then I go down.
+
+00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:00.519
+And I want to add a new argument here.
+
+00:22:00.520 --> 00:22:08.799
+I would go like for it. I would go like add flag.
+
+00:22:08.800 --> 00:22:13.759
+For example, I would add a flag
+
+00:22:13.760 --> 00:22:21.759
+and I would get a new flag to add here.
+
+00:22:21.760 --> 00:22:33.119
+Oops. Of course, this is integrated into Eagle Lord.
+
+00:22:33.120 --> 00:22:42.759
+So I'm getting your information about what I have.
+
+00:22:42.760 --> 00:22:52.359
+I don't have OS, so I would need to import here,
+
+00:22:52.360 --> 00:22:59.279
+but I can go up just to see
+
+00:22:59.280 --> 00:23:01.759
+if I would like to, for example,
+
+00:23:01.760 --> 00:23:11.879
+create a new a regular expression
+
+00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:15.439
+I'm getting this information that you see right now on call
+
+00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:17.359
+for I'm getting that from Eglot
+
+00:23:17.360 --> 00:23:18.919
+so you see there's the integration
+
+00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:20.839
+with with Eglot too in Python
+
+00:23:20.840 --> 00:23:23.559
+I have Eglot and as you've seen
+
+00:23:23.560 --> 00:23:30.239
+I also have the and all these are snippets fine
+
+00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:38.199
+more reactions and questions
+
+00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:54.239
+Because that would be my show off here.
+
+00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:56.759
+Any questions? Any more questions on the pad?
+
+00:23:56.760 --> 00:24:11.479
+but anyhow i'm going to try
+
+00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:13.239
+i'm going to try your snippet too
+
+00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:16.279
+and i'm going to be answering this question more
+
+00:24:16.280 --> 00:24:21.079
+yeah time is good okay fine
+
+00:24:21.080 --> 00:24:30.039
+so I would be done if there's no more reactions
+
+00:24:30.040 --> 00:24:33.239
+thank you so much You're welcome.
+
+00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:34.919
+If you have any other questions, folks,
+
+00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:37.079
+you can always follow up on the pad.
+
+00:24:37.080 --> 00:24:39.639
+That was a great demonstration, and I'm sure lots of people
+
+00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:43.519
+are looking forward to trying it out.
+
+00:24:43.520 --> 00:24:45.239
+Oh, I see some questions coming in now.
+
+00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:46.199
+You may go ahead if you like.
+
+00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:51.879
+okay fine uh what uh there's someone asking
+
+00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:57.079
+what do special characters in your snippets work well too
+
+00:24:57.080 --> 00:25:02.479
+what kind of i don't use special characters in the key name
+
+00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.199
+so in this case everything works quite nicely
+
+00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:11.359
+and then i'm passing i'm passing the control to your snippets
+
+00:25:11.360 --> 00:25:13.679
+so if there's any problem in your snippets
+
+00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:15.359
+with uh special characters
+
+00:25:15.360 --> 00:25:24.399
+that i don't know I don't use that as a key.
+
+00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:30.519
+I'm just using for key names.
+
+00:25:30.520 --> 00:25:38.399
+I normally use a, I only use letters, but that should work.
+
+00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:43.959
+I mean, let's, uh, let's give it a trial.
+
+00:25:43.960 --> 00:25:58.039
+Let's kill here. Yes. I don't want, I don't want to touch this.
+
+00:25:58.040 --> 00:26:01.039
+Ugh. let's go into this one uh
+
+00:26:01.040 --> 00:26:06.920
+let's say I'm going to define this for example like this
+
+00:26:06.959 --> 00:26:10.919
+and I'm going to create a new snippet
+
+00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:15.359
+I'm going to create a new snippet
+
+00:26:15.360 --> 00:26:18.119
+and use this is for example when you look at this
+
+00:26:18.120 --> 00:26:20.599
+if you if you have the the venue uh the new
+
+00:26:20.600 --> 00:26:26.159
+sorry the new way of the the new emacs uh
+
+00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:31.639
+semantical highlighting working
+
+00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:39.199
+this would be quite cramped this is why i'm using
+
+00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:43.039
+this is why i said uh the snippet the
+
+00:26:43.040 --> 00:26:49.039
+so is this more or less what you're talking about
+
+00:26:49.040 --> 00:27:01.479
+This is what you're talking about. Snippet. Save the snippet.
+
+00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:15.479
+So I'm going to... Snippet, load and put window.
+
+00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:21.279
+Enable interaction mode. Yes, I'm going to save.
+
+00:27:21.280 --> 00:27:24.439
+And I'm going to save that as FD test. on the file.
+
+00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:41.479
+No, I'm going to save this. Load. Load input window.
+
+00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:53.679
+I'm going to put this in Emacs Lisp mode. I want to save it. No.
+
+00:27:53.680 --> 00:28:27.359
+I'm going to write that directly into Emacs Lisp mode.
+
+00:28:27.360 --> 00:28:30.639
+going to go back into scratch buffer
+
+00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:43.079
+and here I have it and we have it here but anyhow
+
+00:28:43.080 --> 00:28:52.079
+and I'm just going to try to see if I feel like empty of course
+
+00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:58.839
+there's only one it will not show in Corfu,
+
+00:28:58.840 --> 00:29:01.519
+but I mean, I don't have any problems
+
+00:29:01.520 --> 00:29:20.999
+with that, as you see. Was that what you were meaning?
+
+00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.839
+Yeah, I guess that works. Fine.
+
+00:29:24.840 --> 00:29:29.039
+All right, shall we wrap up here
+
+00:29:29.040 --> 00:29:31.279
+so that you can have supper
+
+00:29:31.280 --> 00:29:40.919
+and have lunch and other things? Okay, fine for me.
+
+00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:46.319
+I was hoping to see the drop down. Just a second.
+
+00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:49.959
+I think we can do that too. Two seconds.
+
+00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:52.559
+How can we do that with a drop down?
+
+00:29:52.560 --> 00:29:57.719
+Yeah, if I say something like this.
+
+00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:04.919
+And then I go and save it.
+
+00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:08.799
+And I'm going to go and write this
+
+00:30:08.800 --> 00:30:16.719
+into, with a second, fine.
+
+00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.919
+And now I need to quit here, sorry.
+
+00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:26.639
+And I'm going to come back in a second with another remark.
+
+00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:31.559
+Well, I'm bringing back and now let's see.
+
+00:30:31.560 --> 00:30:34.839
+Let's see what we have in your snippets.
+
+00:30:34.840 --> 00:30:44.159
+It's not there. Why not? Just a second. Let's see if I go.
+
+00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.839
+I don't know if it matters that the name was
+
+00:30:47.840 --> 00:30:52.599
+that didn't have the characters in the beginning.
+
+00:30:52.600 --> 00:31:03.159
+Just a second. I think I know what is happening here.
+
+00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:21.439
+Do I have here? I have them. I'm going to clean.
+
+00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:28.879
+Oh, you're back in your home directories. Why?
+
+00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:35.879
+CD dash to get back in. Yeah. That's right.
+
+00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:37.799
+So you see how the name also has
+
+00:31:37.800 --> 00:31:39.319
+it doesn't have the same as the keys.
+
+00:31:39.320 --> 00:31:41.039
+I don't know if that affects what shows up.
+
+00:31:41.040 --> 00:31:49.399
+Yeah, we we can try that. That's a quick one. This is my.
+
+00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.279
+Fine, now that I have this,
+
+00:31:51.280 --> 00:31:55.359
+which is going to be quicker, we check again.
+
+00:31:55.360 --> 00:31:57.919
+They both seem to be the same now
+
+00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:03.079
+and I don't know if that affects, but anyhow, let's try it.
+
+00:32:03.080 --> 00:32:07.679
+I go and then I look at the AR snippets, if it's there.
+
+00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:11.879
+Yes, it is. Yeah, it's there.
+
+00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:18.559
+And then if I say there, there you are. Oh, look at that.
+
+00:32:18.560 --> 00:32:24.159
+It doesn't seem to be affecting. Fantastic.
+
+00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:32.119
+And by the way, it is there.
+
+00:32:32.120 --> 00:32:33.999
+Yeah, I really should spend time
+
+00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.599
+getting more templates set up with Snippet.
+
+00:32:36.600 --> 00:32:37.639
+I really love the fact that
+
+00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.399
+you can evaluate Emacs Lisp in it too.
+
+00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:43.399
+Yeah, I mean, just to make it bigger,
+
+00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:51.359
+try that because if I go into my, for example,
+
+00:32:51.360 --> 00:32:55.679
+into my org mode stuff
+
+00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.439
+and in my org mode, I go to the article,
+
+00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:03.319
+which is one of the big ones.
+
+00:33:03.320 --> 00:33:06.199
+I have things like, for example,
+
+00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:10.719
+I defined a couple of functions here to do if it's empty,
+
+00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:16.399
+if that is empty, just add a white space.
+
+00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.599
+If one is empty, add a white space.
+
+00:33:19.600 --> 00:33:23.319
+add a white space here so it becomes a comment.
+
+00:33:23.320 --> 00:33:27.279
+I have functions for to do more things on that
+
+00:33:27.280 --> 00:33:29.799
+and I also have like menus to see
+
+00:33:29.800 --> 00:33:33.599
+what language I want to choose for
+
+00:33:33.600 --> 00:33:37.079
+for my spell checking and so on so
+
+00:33:37.080 --> 00:33:40.319
+and that's all that's as you see
+
+00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:41.959
+this is a Lisp being evaluated
+
+00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:45.119
+so yes do I really encourage you
+
+00:33:45.120 --> 00:33:46.519
+I've also heard people use it,
+
+00:33:46.520 --> 00:33:47.799
+like, especially if they're working
+
+00:33:47.800 --> 00:33:49.919
+in different programming languages,
+
+00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.399
+so they can just have the syntax
+
+00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.359
+for the different languages
+
+00:33:54.360 --> 00:33:58.239
+be condensed into a consistent abbreviation. Yeah.
+
+00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.319
+And look, this is my article. I have another.
+
+00:34:01.320 --> 00:34:07.799
+This is when I'm writing articles. I have another one.
+
+00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:10.279
+I have another one for writing letters
+
+00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:14.399
+in org mode and so on. So, it's like letter, block,
+
+00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.559
+and you have the complete infrastructure
+
+00:34:16.560 --> 00:34:20.159
+and you don't have to type it by hand.
+
+00:34:20.160 --> 00:34:22.879
+So, it's really, really nice.
+
+00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.959
+Hmm, I think it might be nice to have
+
+00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.079
+a future Emacs carnival, you know,
+
+00:34:28.080 --> 00:34:31.239
+shared blogging theme thing be around
+
+00:34:31.240 --> 00:34:33.359
+having people share their snippets.
+
+00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:39.359
+No snippets and other things like for example,
+
+00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:41.319
+this is something stupid.
+
+00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:44.519
+I'm switching my themes. All right.
+
+00:34:44.520 --> 00:34:48.639
+And of course, there you see,
+
+00:34:48.640 --> 00:34:51.439
+I have also, this is also with,
+
+00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.519
+this is my way of switching buffers,
+
+00:34:54.520 --> 00:34:58.159
+which is with the shift control and tab,
+
+00:34:58.160 --> 00:35:00.559
+I can switch different families
+
+00:35:00.560 --> 00:35:02.519
+and then when I'm in a family,
+
+00:35:02.520 --> 00:35:06.999
+I can go and switch with control tab between the different,
+
+00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:15.599
+I'm using tab line by the way. I'm not using the other one.
+
+00:35:15.600 --> 00:35:20.839
+I'm using the old plain tab line with my themes.
+
+00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:23.519
+So that's more or less everything.
+
+00:35:23.520 --> 00:35:26.519
+Thank you for the peek into your workflow.
+
+00:35:26.520 --> 00:35:30.759
+I will work on getting the recordings for the live talks
+
+00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.919
+sorted out at some point very soon.
+
+00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:37.839
+I might even be able to get them out next week.
+
+00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:44.920
+So thanks again. All right. Have a nice supper. Same to you.