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- [EmacsConf - 2023 - talks - What I learned by writing test cases for GNU Hyperbole](https://emacsconf.org/2023/talks/test)
- [[!taglink CategoryHyperbole]]
+# Discussion
+
+## Questions and answers
+
+- Q: \<edrx\> Hey, how is the log buffer generated?
+ - A: interaction-log package
+- Q:\<Donovan\> So , the "select a thing" C-c RET is similar to
+ expand-region? How does it behave in codes (functions, class,\...)
+ - A: Behaves exactly the same.
+- Q:I know you Hyperbole devs are active and interested in sharing and
+ interoperating with other emacs tools. What is a recent tool that
+ you find exciting to think about using in combination with
+ Hyperbole, or would like to suggest using in combination with it?
+ - A: Lately, focussing on making Hyperbole work with org-mode so
+ that they may interoperate.
+ - The idea with Hyperbole is not to be better than everything
+ else, but to be a connector between the different modes.
+ - ace-window is a small, great package that selects  windows or
+ displays a buffer in them.  Hyperbole extends this a bit letting
+ you theow a region or buffer to a window or replace its contents
+ with another buffer.  This is documented in the Hyperbole
+ manual.
+ - \<ElfOfPi\> There's also C-@ (mark-org-subtree) which
+ interferes with Hyperbole
+ - Can you explain how it interferes?  Any conflict would
+ likely be a bug, not an incompatibility.
+ - Sometimes, it does clash with other modes, especially M-RET.
+- Q: Hi Mats! Can I ask you a technical question about Hyperbole? Many
+ years ago I tried to learn hyperbole but I gave up after some
+ time\... I remember that I found the code of the dispatcher very
+ hard to understand. Anyway, here is the question: if I type M-RET on
+ this button - {C-h h d d} - Hyperbole detects the extent of the
+ button and the kind of the button, and at some point it probably
+ calls a Lisp function with the argument "C-h h d d", and that
+ function makes emacs behave as if the user had typed C-h h d d. Do
+ you know what function is that?
+ - A:See the defib of kbd-key in the hib-kbd.el file.  That is an
+ implicit button type defined via defib which invokes an action
+ type of the same name defined with defact.  Just read the code
+ and you'll see how it works.
+
+## Notes
+
+- \<alzai\> Hyperbole looks like an incredible tool but I can't quite
+ seem to get it. These examples make me want to try again though :)
+ - Same here, I actually leave it in the background and hit M-RET
+ from time to time :D
+- \<ElephantErgo\> "take away your freedom" 🤔 "ta bort din
+ frihet" 🙁
+- \<sleep_walker\> nice talk! Hyperbole is in my TODO list for some
+ time already, I should bring it to the top\...
+- \<maxxcan\> I think that Hyperbole is a little diamon inside Emacas
+- \<NullNix\> ditto! it seems a wonderful grab-bag of random nifty
+ stuff :)
+- \<gs-101\> alzai: I always viewed it as this mysterious tool. Some
+ users recommend it but there's no simple overview of it. But I'd
+ say this was one.
+ - \<edrx\> gs-101: for me one of the problems with hyperbole is
+ the lack of examples in the documentation
+ - We have written multiple example use files included in
+ Hyperbole, a full Texinfo manual and a number of videos but
+ maybe we should add a step-by-step how to use it for new users.
+- \* NullNix suspects hyperbole window configs and winner window
+ configs might be\... confusing if used together :) \[11:47\]
+- \<jrootabega\> Maybe it could be jokingly summarized as
+ do-everything-at-point
+- \<sleep_walker\> well, I got lost around several types of buttons -
+ cheatsheet would be huge help for jumping in
+- \[re transient discussion\]: \<gs-101\> Very excited for the Org
+ move to transient.
+- sachac: In the org-update talk, Ihor mentioned wanting to move some
+ more of the Org functionality into libraries that other packages
+ could take advantage of, so it might be interesting to see what
+ might be good to share with each other.
+ - Could this be akin to refactoring useful features from emacs
+ packages into emacs itself, especially if that feature is widely
+ used and useful across many packages.
+- \<robin\> one of those legendary packages i've just never quite
+ gotten around to learning
+
+
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