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 Previous Talks: <https://emacsconf.org/2021/talks/bidi> and
           <https://emacsconf.org/2022/talks/mail>
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+# Discussion
+
+## Questions and answers
+
+-   Q: You mentioned that there's two editions: one aimed at
+    westerners, and one for worldwide readers. I'm from Brazil, which
+    edition would you recommend? It's a western country, but you
+    didn't make the distinction exclusive for the second edition, so I
+    thought it would be better to ask.
+    -   A: For everybody listening to this conference, the
+        **international** edition is the right choice.
+    -   It features more aggressive stance against intellectual property
+        (being linked specifically to the American culture)
+    -   There are pieces in the book where the typical American audience
+        might be offended
+    -   ...But if your skin is thick enough to deal with reasonable
+        criticism, the international edition for you.
+-   Q:Thank you for this talk! How does your perspective interface with
+    works such as Yanis Varoufakis' Technofeudalism?
+    -   A: Not familiar with the book.
+    -   There is a lot of global growth and collective understanding
+        towards the notion that the direction we're headed in (i.e.
+        American digital ecosystems) is dangerous.
+    -   We should revisit the entirety of the strategy.
+    -   \[For the questioner\] Can you clarify? (I'll write to you :) )
+-   Q:To what extent do you agree that the introduction of proprietary
+    systems in education creates an environment for exploitation while
+    at the same time diluting the learning value of the curriculum? My
+    computing education at school amounted to learning how to use the MS
+    Office suite - ie, the opposite of lasting, open knowledge.
+    -   A: The idea is that teaching and learning should be
+        unrestricted, such as the Muslim/Iranian saying: "Passing along
+        the learning is the tax on having learnt".
+    -   "Being used as part of education"
+-   Q:As a specific example of how "ownership is not clean", look at the
+    Star Trek Picard series: they continuously asked Patrick Stewart to
+    come do another Star Trek series but he wouldn't because Star Trek
+    changed from what it used to be, at least until it they came up with
+    a series that honored what Star Trek used to be. Does this
+    intersect?
+    -   A: Not sure if I fully get the point.
+    -   On my criticism of the FOSS movement:
+        -   The idea is that we have jumped on the FOSS movement and
+            recognized it as an alternative, but we haven't looked
+            deeply enough to see if our own philosophy and movement have
+            problems.
+        -   The problems that I note is that the FOSS movement does not
+            recognize clearly and explictly that the entirity of the
+            intellectual property system is flawed.
+        -   It's only now that we are seeing the FOSS movement is
+            broader than the Western world.
+        -   The labels of Free Software and Open Source are not
+            necessarily correct.
+        -   We are not paying enough attention to establishing
+            relationship with society.
+        -   There's a whole chapter in the book dedicated to this topic.
+    -   \[To the questioner\] Clarification please
+        -   The point of the question was even though a media company
+            owned Star Trek they couldn't do what they wanted with the
+            series if you involve other people. The question was also
+            open ended so you did answer it by taking it where you
+            wanted it to go.
+-   Q:How can we promote a culture of more active thought with regard to
+    the societal impacts of ethical and philosphical choices made in the
+    wider FOSS community?
+    -   A:
+-   Q: I am involved in Politics in my country, my party is very
+    sympathetic to FOSS ideals and I've been pushing for better policy
+    with regards to public procurement. Do you have any recommended
+    reading materials designed for such an audience?
+    -   A:
+
+## Notes
+
+-   Am I too young to understand? Maybe I need to read the book
+    -   Aah I get it!! IPR forces single ownership of what are
+        polyexistentials
+-   Takiyah Assaf: ​​gnome is not halal
+    -   Takiyah Assaf: ​​gnome is western
+    -   \<gs-101\> Did he elaborate on how GNOME is haram by his
+        definition? Oh, sorry, nevermind, the quote on GNOME isn't from
+        the speaker.
+-   \<kswiss\> interesting. and - obviously - radical thoughts. not sure
+    about if Americanism critique is the core, but moreover a general
+    critique of (extreme) capitalism mechanism. but that's certainly
+    not merely a "Western" issue. imo
+-   \<lounge-511\> Okay, I have to admit, I love this
+    political/philosophical dissection of software's impact on
+    society.   Very interesting.
+    -   \<gs-101\> It's like an extension of the GNU (free software)
+        thought. I think I need more literature on that topic\...
+    -   \<\_bladez\_\> Essentially a free, open-source and
+        privacy-respecting ecosystem akin to those provided by the big
+        tech companies (Google, Microsoft, Apple).
+-   Paul Eduard​​: Great talk on Polyexistentials. Awesome to see
+    EmacsConf including international voices .
+-   \<lounge-511\> He hit the nail on the head:  This point has been on
+    my mind: Capitalism creates artificial scarcity and then
+    manufactures junk to fill it.  How can that be overcome?  So that we
+    get software that is actually needed \...
+    -   \<plasmastrike\> lounge-511: I don't know if this is a problem
+        with Capitalism which can be many things to different people to
+        the point the term might not mean much. I have a problem with
+        people competing through corrosion rather than compition. For
+        example google is restricting access to google drive api making
+        everybodys app but googles worse. Capitilism "not fake
+        Capitalism" predospes a free market which would limit this
+-   The blee panel actually is cool!
+-   Blaine Mooers: Very thought-provoking talk!
+-   Dovetailing nicely / with other talks from EmacsConf 2024
+    -   Working **on** Emacs vs working **for** Emacs
+    -   Peter mentioned "too much choice"
+    -   Mixing org-mode with programming languages
+        -   org-babel has successfully integrated org-mode with all
+            kinds of languages
+        -   Has happened within the context of literature programming
+            -   cf. Literate Programming for the 21st Century (EmacsConf
+                2024)
+        -   Traditional programming mixed with org-mode
+            -   polymode is key to that
+-   Several concepts which were introduced like "dynamic blocks
+    everywhere" and "COMEEGA" would probably require other talks
+-   \<gs-101\> Probably my favourite talk of the event
+-   \<srandby\> Wonderful talk!
+-   \<lounge-511\> This presentation gets better and better.
+-   \<plasmastrike\> lounge-511: I don't know if this is a problem with
+    Capitalism which can be many things to different people to the point
+    the term might not mean much. I have a problem with people competing
+    through corrosion rather than compition. For example google is
+    restricting access to google drive api making everybodys app but
+    googles worse. Capitilism "not fake Capitilism" predospes a free
+    market which would limit this
+-   \<silverhikari\> going to go checkout the book later as half way
+    thorugh the talk i got term overload
+-   \<lounge-511\> Great talk, great software.
+-   \<lounge-511\> Thank you for the presentation Mosen.
+-   \<kswiss\> while this heavy topic is certainly a major critique of
+    capitalism as such, i certainly would not mix in here any sort of
+    religion-related things. hence leveraging "Halaal" for this is
+    quite disturbing.
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