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@@ -328,7 +328,7 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""this to be quite robust, obviously. Yeah, indeed. Because""" start="00:01:35.960" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""usually, you know, when you start publishing packages like""" start="00:01:41.240" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this, that's when you realize that it has bad interaction""" start="00:01:43.880" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""with other modes in the IMAX of other persons. But""" start="00:01:46.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""with other modes in the Emacs of other persons. But""" start="00:01:46.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""especially when you're dealing with databases, you also""" start="00:01:49.760" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""realize that the domain space of what you're trying to do""" start="00:01:52.040" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""with your mode also is hugely dependent on what people have""" start="00:01:54.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -344,8 +344,9 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""sure you have plenty of questions as well. So Eric, what I'll""" start="00:02:27.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""be doing, I'll be reading you the questions so that it's a""" start="00:02:30.800" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""little more didactic. Starting with the first one. This is""" start="00:02:33.760" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""brilliant, thank you. Do you know if pgmacs works with TRAMP?""" start="00:02:37.440" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""I often use TRAMP multi-app to access databases both""" start="00:02:41.080" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+
+<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Do you know if PGmacs works with TRAMP?""" start="00:02:37.440" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""brilliant, thank you. Do you know if pgmacs works with TRAMP?""" start="00:02:37.440" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I often use TRAMP multi-hop to access databases both""" start="00:02:41.080" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""remotely when accessing via bastion server and locally""" start="00:02:44.120" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""when using OCI containers. I believe you've already""" start="00:02:46.960" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""answered but if you could just perhaps read your answer as""" start="00:02:49.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -376,7 +377,8 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""if you have something specific in mind, I'm talking to the""" start="00:04:29.120" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""questioner, feel free to specify and we'll see if you can""" start="00:04:31.840" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""answer it. But in the meantime, moving to the next question.""" start="00:04:35.120" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""Great work, I'm impressed. How did you come up with this""" start="00:04:38.240" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+
+<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: How did you come up with this brilliant idea?""" start="00:04:38.240" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Great work, I'm impressed. How did you come up with this""" start="00:04:38.240" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""brilliant idea, I assume, to create pgmacs? Well, thanks for""" start="00:04:42.000" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the compliment. It's a lot of fun developing something""" start="00:04:49.080" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which is, as I said, such a small amount of code and which""" start="00:04:52.840" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -406,10 +408,10 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""interested, how would you handle g's and b columns in pgmacs?""" start="00:06:43.880" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""JSON is mapped to an edis dict, a dictionary.""" start="00:06:49.240" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It depends on the top level object type for your JSON column.""" start="00:06:55.040" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""If it's an array, it's mapped to an Emacs lisp array. If it's a""" start="00:07:03.760" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""dict, which is most common, it's mapped to an Emacs lisp""" start="00:07:07.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""If it's an array, it's mapped to an Emacs Lisp array. If it's a""" start="00:07:03.760" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""dict, which is most common, it's mapped to an Emacs Lisp""" start="00:07:07.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""dictionary. All right, well it makes perfect sense. So I can""" start="00:07:12.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""break in with a question. Thanks, I just held myself to the""" start="00:07:17.680" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""break in with a question. Thanks, I just helped myself to the""" start="00:07:17.680" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""BBB privilege of kind of running around backstage, being a""" start="00:07:21.840" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""helper backstage. So thanks for your awesome talk, Eric. I""" start="00:07:26.160" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""super appreciated it. You know, I noticed that you that""" start="00:07:31.680" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -429,7 +431,7 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""that I included in the slides here, but I think I'm using""" start="00:08:32.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""29.4, the current version on Windows. I thought I saw 29.1,""" start="00:08:34.800" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so that's probably my, I probably missed it when it went by.""" start="00:08:40.560" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""My bad. No, no, I use it via the ChocoPackageUpdater so that""" start="00:08:48.840" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""My bad. No, no, I use it via the choco package updater so that""" start="00:08:48.840" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""updates the Emacs version quite easily on Windows. So""" start="00:08:54.880" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""thanks for your work on maintaining Windows binaries. I""" start="00:08:58.480" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""realize that was- I sit downstream at the end of a lot of other""" start="00:09:03.080" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -438,7 +440,8 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""course, my pleasure.""" start="00:09:15.560" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Coming back to the previous question, so the the""" start="00:09:16.400" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""questionnaire actually provided a little more context. So""" start="00:09:21.800" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""with docker.el, kubel, etc, it's often possible to, for""" start="00:09:26.920" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+
+<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""TRAMP continued""" start="00:09:26.920" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""with docker.el, kubel, etc, it's often possible to, for""" start="00:09:26.920" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""example, select a container pod or whatever that is hosted""" start="00:09:30.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""on the machine you've connected to via TRAMP, such as""" start="00:09:33.920" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Podman, colon image colon path and trigger a terminal shell""" start="00:09:36.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -458,9 +461,9 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""because pgmacs won't work through a terminal, but through a""" start="00:10:26.160" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""port forward, then that would be convenient. I'll see how""" start="00:10:29.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""easy that is to set up. Yeah, I'm pretty sure the way it works""" start="00:10:33.440" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""is that it starts some processes in the background in eMAX""" start="00:10:38.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""is that it starts some processes in the background in Emacs""" start="00:10:38.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""just to either maintain the port forward or to maybe remap""" start="00:10:41.280" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""some kubecon things or whatever. So with PG eMAX,""" start="00:10:45.360" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""some kubecon things or whatever. So with pgmacs,""" start="00:10:45.360" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""considering complex pipelines to get to the end""" start="00:10:49.240" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""destination, it feels like it would be possible to do""" start="00:10:51.880" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""something. But perhaps it's not the responsibility of""" start="00:10:54.680" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -480,7 +483,7 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""connection. And for some reason that I haven't understood,""" start="00:11:46.840" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""pgmacs is quite a bit slower when it's even connecting to the""" start="00:11:50.440" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""same database on the local machine, but via Emacs' network""" start="00:11:55.120" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""support instead of via the Unix socket support. there is""" start="00:12:00.360" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""support instead of via the Unix socket support. There is""" start="00:12:00.360" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""like a factor 10 difference in throughput and in latency. I""" start="00:12:05.040" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""don't really understand why currently, because it's using""" start="00:12:11.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""exactly the same Emacs Lisp level primitives. And when you""" start="00:12:15.840" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -500,7 +503,9 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""perhaps you might think otherwise, but I wish you luck on the""" start="00:13:11.200" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""debugging with this particular matter. All right, moving""" start="00:13:14.760" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to the last question that we have and then we'll probably go""" start="00:13:18.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""on a little bit of a break. Question. Is SQLite mode also""" start="00:13:21.520" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""on a little bit of a break.""" start="00:13:21.520" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+
+<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is sqlite-mode also capable of all of this functionality (table relations, etc)? If not, will it be possible to abstract out this functionality from pgmacs somehow?""" start="00:13:22.966" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Question. Is SQLite mode also""" start="00:13:22.966" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""capable of all of this functionality, table relations,""" start="00:13:25.400" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""etc.? If not, would it be possible to abstract out this""" start="00:13:28.440" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""functionality from pgmacs somehow?""" start="00:13:31.560" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -514,13 +519,15 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""there is already actually a library that abstracts out from""" start="00:14:13.800" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""SQLite and Postgres. Postgres, when you connect to it via a""" start="00:14:19.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""PSQL subsystem,""" start="00:14:25.440" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""it might be worthwhile doing that, but There are often a few""" start="00:14:29.160" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it might be worthwhile doing that, but there are often a few""" start="00:14:29.160" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""minor differences in SQL syntax and so on between""" start="00:14:38.440" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""databases. So it might be difficult to have something that""" start="00:14:42.280" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""really works with generic queries in an effective way. All""" start="00:14:45.880" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""these SQL dialects are a little bit different,""" start="00:14:53.160" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""unfortunately. So there was another question about I was""" start="00:14:58.240" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""just going to read out the next question. So have you thought""" start="00:15:02.320" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""just going to read out the next question.""" start="00:15:02.320" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+
+<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Would it be possible to move it into Emacs tree? Are the maintainers interested in it?""" start="00:15:06.511" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""So have you thought""" start="00:15:06.511" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""about integrating your work into the Emacs tree? Do you know""" start="00:15:07.520" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""if people are interested? This was a question from the past.""" start="00:15:12.560" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Yeah, I think it's probably a bit young to do so, so far.""" start="00:15:17.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -533,17 +540,19 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""Well, from a very simple point of view, I think that the""" start="00:15:51.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""copyright and the system works well with the existing""" start="00:15:56.000" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""license and without a license transfer, so I don't feel that""" start="00:16:01.160" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""the, sorry, without a copyright transfer, I don't feel that""" start="00:16:05.320" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""the copyright transfer is really a necessary step for""" start="00:16:09.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""taking things away from maintainers. It feels like Asking""" start="00:16:14.680" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""the maintainers to give up on some of their corporate...""" start="00:16:21.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the, sorry, without a copyright transfer,""" start="00:16:05.320" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I don't feel that the copyright transfer is really a necessary step for""" start="00:16:07.767" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""taking things away from maintainers. It feels like asking""" start="00:16:14.680" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the maintainers to give up on some of their copyright...""" start="00:16:21.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Indeed. Yeah, I see where that's a little beyond our scope,""" start="00:16:26.560" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but it's a fascinating topic and I appreciate your sharing""" start="00:16:30.000" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""your views there. I mean, that sounds like a whole topic of""" start="00:16:33.520" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""its own, frankly.""" start="00:16:36.960" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""Yeah. Corbyn, do you want to fill the last question? Sure. So""" start="00:16:41.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Yeah. Corwin, do you want to fill the last question? Sure. So""" start="00:16:41.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the question was, I almost missed this one, so glad I didn't.""" start="00:16:47.040" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""This may have been answered already. What do you use for""" start="00:16:52.040" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""This may have been answered already.""" start="00:16:52.040" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+
+<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: What do you use for the in-buffer tables? Vtable?""" start="00:16:53.850" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""What do you use for""" start="00:16:53.850" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""in-buffer tables? Do you use vtable? Yep. Thanks for the""" start="00:16:55.160" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""question. It is indeed vtable. However, it's not really""" start="00:17:00.040" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""vtable. It's a fork that I made, which is called pgmix table.""" start="00:17:04.600" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
@@ -560,8 +569,9 @@ Captioner: eric
[[!template text="""maybe back and forth and I'll try to be quicker this time.""" start="00:18:02.720" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""First of all, thanks for your kind remarks. But my question""" start="00:18:05.080" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""wasn't really about Windows so much, it was just how I'm""" start="00:18:08.880" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""relating So have you, let me put it more simply, have you""" start="00:18:11.840" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
-[[!template text="""started looking at integrating with EMAX 30 or with the""" start="00:18:16.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""relating... So have you, let me put it more simply, have you""" start="00:18:11.840" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
+
+<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Integrating with Emacs 30?""" start="00:18:16.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""started looking at integrating with Emacs 30 or with the""" start="00:18:16.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""master branch at all? Do you have any sense of how much work""" start="00:18:20.640" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it's going to be for you to carry things forward there? I've""" start="00:18:24.680" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""tested it with the pre-release, yes. I mean, just a very""" start="00:18:27.080" video="qanda-pgmacs" id="subtitle"]]